My previous understanding of the Village People was actually that they were mostly straight but had been created cynically to exploit the gay disco market. So I guess part of that was true.
I would add, though, that everyone I have ever known to dance to Village People songs (including a bunch of Lutheran college students in 1992) thought of all those songs as a bit of a giggle because they were understood to be about homosexuality. It was like... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 11:42 AM on August 2, 2013
Would a woman who tried to kill her ex-girlfriend ever be so publicly and passionately lauded as a valiant defender of womens' rights because hey, look, she's totally great and trustworthy aside from that whole pesky "attempted murder" thing? Or are we meant to sweep unsuccessful attempts at murder-suicide under the rug when they're committed by people -- which is to say, men -- who struggle with drug addiction or mental health issues? This is explicitly gendered... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 3:57 PM on August 1, 2013
Some things I would be interested in on this topic:
1. More specifics about whiteness, masculinity, "authenticity". I mean, I know a lot of trendy white people in their twenties, and they are mostly obsessive Big Freedia fans - this in Minneapolis! This type of article tends to assume a unified white identity (but wait, I'm not saying "not all people are like that", see point 2) when actually there are all... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 10:50 AM on August 1, 2013
Also, I thought that Miley Cyrus in a baggy unicorn costume (which for some reason I remembered as a rabbit costume) video to be one of the creepier white-person-cultural-appropriation videos I've seen. Like, let's take twerking - which is about both physical skill and sexuality - and de-sex it so that it's okay for a white girl to perform it; let's take something that is, aesthetically, about a particular communal experience of performance and sexuality, that is about really... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 10:57 AM on August 1, 2013
Don't you think when we get to this point (I mean, the author of the linked piece is a young white woman who is criticizing white people for not liking certain aspects of black popular culture while at the same time criticizing another young white woman for liking pretty much the same aspects of black popular culture) we're just kinda going out of our way to find reasons to put people in the wrong? "The way I enjoy so-and-so is cool and proves I'm open minded and a citizen of the... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 11:05 AM on August 1, 2013
I really, really, really don't think that the answer to "you don't know a lot of people of color" should be "therefore you shouldn't go to an event that will have a lot of people of color at it". Concern about cultural appropriation is legit, but if it leads you to never engaging with other cultures at all something's seriously fucked up.
Oh, I know! I think cultural appropriation is a weird and poorly theorized lens through which... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 11:11 AM on August 1, 2013
I've reread Frowner's comment several times trying to see what I missed and I can't see how Frowner is NOT saying that if a white person wants to attend a Big Freedia show they are probably racist. If you thought Frowner was joking I would draw your attention to the part that reads "I'm quite serious."
I think white people are all, in a sense, "racist". I mean, we become "white" (rather than... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 11:17 AM on August 1, 2013
You really go through life thinking stuff like this? And sometimes saying it out loud?
Even worse that than! I've been known to read books which make these arguments! And have conversations with friends in which they talk about their work as writers of color and the difficulty in negotiating race and audience! It's horrible. I don't know how I manage not to kill myself and end my own suffering. posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 12:10 PM on August 1, 2013
My first apartment? Well, technically my first apartment was so very small that all the wall space was either radiator, door or bookshelf. My first posters were one of Morrissey back before I knew how racist he was and one from that Clash On Broadway compilation. In college I had soulless posters (the famous Clash one) and then dorky posters (Sandman) plus one awesome poster (Love And Rockets, vintage, nineties, have it still in... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 1:24 PM on July 31, 2013
I had an immense poster for Todd Haynes' "Poison". I worked for a the sort of movie theater that sold espresso, and was unbearable.
I would totally have killed for that poster.
I think I would have been unbearable if I hadn't been so dorky and awkward. The people who should have disliked me based on my actual opinions were moved to pity by my pathos and loneliness instead. posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 1:30 PM on July 31, 2013
I think there's a lurking class and accessibility question here - like, where the hell did people get all these amazing art posters? We had a very narrow selection vended by some pothead-looking dudes, and then I later had occasional trips to the alterna-comics place in the city and that was about it.
Currently I have a Beehive Collective poster illustrating the evils that white people brought to the Americas (symbolized by a giant flying wasps' nest...as it were). posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 1:34 PM on July 31, 2013
This all brings back how shocked, shocked I was that my random senior year roommate in college (random because some changes in plans meant that my previous roommate arrangements fell through) had a poster of some boy band she'd never heard just because she thought they were cute. I am not sure whether I was more shocked by the musical heresy (since I was all punk rock and everything) or by the... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 1:46 PM on July 31, 2013
-You never bathed, were always drunk. "on my" you think "how little things have changed."
Oh gosh, I had a Crass poster. I'd forgotten that. It was the blow-up doll one. My terrible secret as a punk is that I don't really like Crass that much. They were an amazing bunch of clever people and I like all the things they wrote, but it was just too screamy for me. I have all my Crass cassettes... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 2:21 PM on July 31, 2013
All of these with the possible exception of the absinthe ad one and maybe Nighthawks were staples of every store that sold posters, ever. I mean, I guess it depended where you went to college, geographically speaking, and when. But none of the posters mentioned are things you'd need to take trips abroad to get.
Oh dear. No, not the "amazing" art posters in the linked post, most of which I've seen in cheapo frames at, like, TJ Maxx. The... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 6:20 PM on July 31, 2013
The "note to redditors" is hilarious but also very sad.
What a great list! I am going to share it with an SF class I facilitate. Happy to see Aliette De Bodard on there - she is a really terrific and very unusual writer. posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 8:23 AM on July 31, 2013
Making a "grand bargain" with a bunch of corporations is no bargain at all. We know that a "bargain" with corporations basically means "let's give you tax incentives; once you've wrung everything you can out of us, you'll split town". posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 12:33 PM on July 30, 2013
So the woman mentioned in the FPP would apparently rather starve than wash a soiled cloth diaper. I can't get worked up over this...
It just so happened that I lived with a friend who was using cloth diapers and was...well, let's say, Very Broke. She could use our washer and drier for free at any point, so she didn't have the "deal with the laundromat" issue. Babies go through a lot of diapers. You need a diaper pail, which... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 6:36 AM on July 30, 2013
As for the laundering...from my limited experience, you can do this without the washing machine. I grew up poor, had poor relatives, and am old enough that some people still used cloth because that's what they've always done. I could be remembering things incorrectly, but seemed like a lot of the people I knew used cloth. They way I remember this being done was that the diaper was emptied in the toilet. You sloshed it around until you got the big stuff off. Pop the diaper... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 10:14 AM on July 30, 2013
"Alpha children wear grey. They work much harder than we do, because they're so frightfully clever. I'm really awfully glad I'm a Beta, because I don't work so hard. And then we are much better than the Gammas and Deltas. Gammas are stupid. They all wear green, and Delta children wear khaki. Oh no, I don't want to play with Delta children."
Ah, but Brave New World was the product of a better and more innocent time - in the... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 1:30 PM on July 26, 2013
Kickstarter always strikes me as being heavily mythologized - like, "all it takes to do a complex project is money and a dream!!!" and "we can ipso facto do things better than the Big Guys, with their infrastructure, institutional memory and connections". When actually, if you're a Big Guy you have a lot more resources for getting things back on track or absorbing a failure than do a couple of people with $50,000. Not that some great things haven't come out of kickstarter,... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 6:34 AM on July 25, 2013
God, I'm old. I saw Clueless with a friend while home from college for the summer. I thought it was great, actually. On technical points it glorifies wealth and bad values in general....but so does Emma, and Emma has always been one of my very favorite novels. I thought it was a great re-imagining of the book - not a stodgy, inevitably ahistorical and politically retrograde costume film like so many movies based on Austen but something... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 11:42 AM on July 20, 2013
I get the feeling that this annoys goths and fanficcers in the same way 'Star Trekkin' annoys Trekkers. Nevertheless, I felt I had to share.
Actually, it was a fanfic-writing friend of mine who told me about this whole thing. He got an enormous kick out of all this stuff. (And also linked me to all things pertaining to Mina de Malfois. I occasionally re-read Mina de Malfois when I need cheering up.) posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 10:09 AM on July 19, 2013
So sick of this generation-bashing all over the internet. Perhaps some people who were born between 1946 and 1964 created the financial crisis or real estate bubbles. And perhaps some people in Generation X or Y participated in those things as well. Most of us just go to work and try to live our lives. Sick of people bashing the baby boom over Social Security as well - hey, if you all don't want to continue the program just give me back the $100,000 I've contributed and I'll call it... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 9:13 PM on July 18, 2013
I haven't watched this yet - it's on my List - but this passage? Does not make me want to watch it (I still will, I swear). Prison is just like college, (except with bars and guards and no freedom) and it's a learning experience that everyone should look forward to and want to have!
I mean, if you do your time and come out with some insights, that's great and more power to you. But trying to sell imprisonment as this valuable learning experience makes me want to... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 11:37 AM on July 15, 2013
First, the show is set in a prison and it does not grapple seriously with the actual issues facing women in prison. It is not dark enough, and doesn't show the depth of the abuse that women suffer behind bars. I will not accept anything other than unflinching, socially conscious verisimilitude in my streaming TV offerings.
I would argue that there's a categorical difference between a show set in a prison and a show set at - for example - a college, a... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 12:49 PM on July 15, 2013
I don't actually believe that for a second, it's just hilarious coincidence, but still... wow. A comparison of this screed to the actual show should appear in their press packet, because DAMN.
Well, actually, when I was going home yesterday I realized that I had kind of done what we all hate when others do it - jumping in early in the thread with a lot of unsubstantiated stuff - and I recognize that I should not have done it. Prison issues are a... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 2:01 PM on July 17, 2013
It's funny - I tend to be most interested in an intellectual tradition which is skeptical of the enlightenment and the unified subject, tends to decry virtually everything that has actually been achieved in terms of social justice as being reformist (and therefore doomed to fail - which actually is the hazard of half-measures), etc.
And essentially I agree with all that.
But the things that have been happening lately make me... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 11:52 AM on July 17, 2013
This whole thread is a mishmash of sneer. Isn't possible to show disdain with better ideas? Denial of obvious problems with any system isn't a solution.
And that's because no one with any political power is actually interested in the "obvious problems" - kids struggling in school, broke schools, kids who don't have enough to eat, etc. People are interested in pretending that they care about the "obvious problem"... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 11:59 AM on July 17, 2013
This brings back something for me: a long time ago, I lived in a house next door to a place there was a murder. One of my housemates was a young black woman. She saw most of the murder - not the critical moment, but she saw the quarrel through a window and saw the victim run out fatally stabbed to die on the street in the rain. The cops came, and then they left for a while, and they left the body out there, uncovered, in the rain for 14 hours until my housemate called the mayor's office. (I... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 4:28 AM on July 14, 2013
What I think he's really doing is breaking Sears up into salable pieces or pieces that can become corporations in their own right with separate stock, and sweetening those pieces by transferring long term liabilities from them to the parts he knows won't sell or be able to stand on their own; then, when he's sold or hived off the artificially sweetened good pieces, collecting massive executive bonuses and options along the way, the moribund remainder, now crammed with... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 7:35 PM on July 12, 2013
So basically, the product of the business is no longer widgets or even dividends - it's fancy jobs for the already-rich. When you stop seeing businesses as about providing a product, a service or even an ego boost and start seeing them as all about being a jobs farm and a money distribution system for the elite, a lot of confusing business decisions suddenly start to make sense. posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 7:37 PM on July 12, 2013
I've looked at appliances at Sears.com many times. Their site is actually pretty sweet. You can filter your search to show you a list of pretty much EXACTLY what you are looking for. However, I don't own any of these products because the store didn't offer delivery. How in the fuck am I going to get a stove to my house myself? And I'm sure as shit not going to order it online and have it shipped via Fedex. Can you imagine the cost of that? How are you going to make money by... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 10:11 AM on July 13, 2013
I would be interested to hear folks' readings in terms of gender, race and sexuality stuff.
Things that jumped out at me:
1. Initial uneasiness about reconfigured Janelle Monae with her hair down and girlier clothes. On the one hand, I'm a very non-femme person but I used to get a huge kick out of wearing vintage dresses; playing with costume and gender presentation is good. And I hope that it's fun and productive for Janelle Monae. At the... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 2:03 PM on July 9, 2013
Which is funny my read wasn't "less butch" then the tuxedo jacket look, it was that she was kind of terrifying. She's like Janis Josplin having a Galadreiel Tempetation moment, a screaming wailing hurricane of fake fur and hair that looks like it might explode at any moment. This is less Arch Android and more "Primal force of nature here to fuck. your. shit. up."
And I mean, this video is really hard to read. I think that's a very... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 2:21 PM on July 9, 2013
I mean, she is amazing. She's able to be innovative and intellectual in ways that most women performers do not have the space to be. Even someone really cerebral like Santigold doesn't, I feel, get as much space. posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 2:23 PM on July 9, 2013
The Q.U.E.E.N. video makes me hope she's the next Doctor Who
I would...gee, I dunno, pay good money or sign a petition or do some other fannish yet persuasive thing (and also start watching Dr. Who, a show I've never really gotten into due to the gender stuff) if Janelle Monae were the next doctor. She would be so fucking perfect. posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 2:27 PM on July 9, 2013
I definitely don't read this as "Janelle Monae Gets Sexed Up in Preparation to Sell More Records" as your post seems to fear.
The thing is, I am uncertain to what degree I am projecting onto Monae a set of concerns about being a young queer woman of color trying to make it as a musician - an enormously talented and obviously really smart young woman, of course, surrounded by a bunch of enormously smart and talented collaborators. The thing... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 4:48 PM on July 9, 2013
Is there some Official Radical Queer Theory Politburo that determines the party line on these things, or just a bunch of people being extremely cruel to each other on tumblr?
Surely you know the answer to this question.
(Or really, People Being Cruel To Each Other On Tumblr constitute a terrible Big Other for which we all perform.)
Actually, this song reminds me a bit of "Make The Bus, in terms of... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 7:48 PM on July 9, 2013
Deep down inside, the Young-Girl has the personality of a tampon: she exemplifies all of the appropriate indifference, all of the necessary coldness demanded by the conditions of metropolitan life.
The "theory of the Young-Girl" as I understood it (read it, it put me off Tiqqun, honestly - a surprising number of European anarchists are really fucking misogynist, from the rape-apologists in Greece to these dudes) names and describes the figure... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 10:25 AM on July 9, 2013
Apparently anyone who decides not to reproduce is a man-child, according to her definition. I know a lot of (dumb) people who share this view, but somehow I don't think the author is as forward looking as she proclaims.
I would be astonished if that's what she actually meant - I think it's just clumsy writing. I think what she's trying to say is that to 'grow up' involves making choices about how you want to live, one of which is... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 10:43 AM on July 9, 2013
Now, I say this lovingly, and I say it as a person who regularly struggles with the same feeling, but: it is very easy to assume that 'difficult' or 'uses specialized language' is the same as 'bad'. Texts are for different audiences, serve different purposes, attempt to use language differently. Writers are different from each other. Some people have brilliant ideas and struggle to articulate them; some people write like angels (to borrow from Margery Allingham) but have... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 11:43 AM on July 9, 2013
but instead it kind of seemed like the authors went full-circle past meta-irony and into sincerity and forgetting that the whole "man-child" construct was meta-ironic, and rediscovered popular front communism or mussolini or something
That's a good point! She really does go from that whole 'Man Child as-if-Young-Girl' thing to "this is how men-children really are". You don't suppose she's doing it in order to reproduce... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 11:47 AM on July 9, 2013
What a depressing thread. Do I really need to point out that if you refer to the author as "she," inadvertently revealing that you haven't even read the byline (or this FPP!) carefully enough to realize that the article was written by two people, not one, then it's fairly doubtful you put in enough effort to determine whether an article about French theory was insightful or not?
We're not - or shouldn't be - aiming to... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 11:51 AM on July 9, 2013
But I don't understand why you would write something on what is, basically, an introductory-level forum most of the time (the Internet) at a level that seems weirdly inaccessible. Unless New Inquiry wants specifically to set itself up as a community that requires a certain intellectual entry fee to participate, which is fine, but then, if it's a closed community type thing, it seems like weird fodder for a MeFi post without further context.
Also, I add that on re-read, being all "I am a practiced reader" comes across way differently than I meant it to. I was trying to say that because I've read a lot of random stuff over many years, I read really quickly and have a big vocabulary, and thus certain things are easy for me, but it's much more like someone being able to add numbers quickly because they need to add a lot than like someone who is actually a mathematician. This always comes to mind because I... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 12:31 PM on July 9, 2013
I'm sorry I sarcastic-ed back at you, man.
Well, it was the kind of sarcasm that I would totally have favorited had it not been directed at me.
Here's the thing, for me: YOU are not doing that. So aren't you personally demonstrating that it's not necessary?
Here is what I am thinking:
1. I don't regularly use academic language,... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 1:45 PM on July 9, 2013
Yet, Kimberly Jeffrey says she was pressured by a doctor while sedated and strapped to a surgical table for a C-section in 2010, during a stint at Valley State for a parole violation. Jeffrey, 43, was horrified, she said, and resisted.
“He said, ‘So we’re going to be doing this tubal ligation, right?’ ” Jeffrey said. “I’m like, ‘Tubal ligation? What are you talking about? I don’t want any procedure. I just want to have my baby.’ I went into a straight panic.... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 3:57 PM on July 7, 2013
At the 2008 Republican National Convention in Minneapolis, police conducted peremptory raids on the homes of protesters before the convention had even started. Police broke into the homes of people known to be activist rabble-rousers before they had any evidence of any actual crime. Journalists who inquired about the legitimacy of the raids and arrests made during the convention were also arrested. In all, 672 people were put in handcuffs. The arrest of Democracy Now journalist Amy... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 9:07 AM on July 7, 2013
I have observed that most moral panics involve things-centered-around-women, things-centered-around-"femininity" or things-centered-around-poor-people. Although in this case, the poor get married in insufficient numbers, so that's not relevant - unless you're writing an article about poor folks recklessly spending a lot of money on a wedding.
No, really, there's a story - and it's a story about consumption in general, but here it's the old familiar story about... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 9:06 AM on July 5, 2013
(I organize an annual two hour catered cocktail event for about 100 people at which everyone gets precisely one drink, canapes are tasty but the board does not groan, we have some floral arrangements and send most of the invitations by email....and that event typically costs in the neighborhood of $6500. It's not unreasonable to say "I'm getting married and it is expected that I will invite all my relatives and my partner's relatives and my friends and my partner's friends and provide them... [more] posted to MetaFilter by Frownerat 9:10 AM on July 5, 2013