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I'd just need to exercise more, and hide my shell-cordovan boots
Also hilarious - the quantification bias. Attended one protest? Well, that might have been a mistake! But two? Not two!!!! Three drinks a week? A-ok!! Four? Nope. One prescription yes, two no.

I wonder if "songs with explicit lyrics" is code for rap music.

Also, note that one resident is Stanford faculty. If I were "Mark"'s department chair, I would be deeply concerned right… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 8:36 AM on May 14, 2015
I mean, maybe his department chair wouldn't care deep down in his soul as long as "Mark" is innovative enough - but with something blowing up all over social media, it seems likely to prompt some sleuthing and scrutiny that would not reflect especially well on the department.
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 8:38 AM on May 14, 2015

Her legacy is rooted in resisting the foundation of American capitalism.
I feel like putting Harriet Tubman on the $20 would do the same thing to her story that has been done to MLK's - turn her into someone to namecheck when you don't want to look racist and eviscerate the complicated and radical nature of her actions. But that is how people and history are assimilated to the nation-building project - overwrite what they actually did and thought with a palatable narrative which supports the nation.

Honestly, all kinds… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 7:27 AM on May 14, 2015

"Last year a trend setter, this year a follower, next year my mom"
You could see this coming - Birkenstock clogs have been a Thing in certain men's style locations for the past couple of years, those Kork-Ease women's shoes have been a big deal and there have been various mini-fashions for some of the other cork-bed old school sandals.

Leaving all else aside, I do not lead a sandal kind of life - there's way too much grit and glass and so on on the streets of my neighborhood for it to be comfortable to wear non-closed shoes, and… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 11:28 AM on May 13, 2015
I would like the gold Opening Ceremony x Tevas please.

When I wore Doctor Martens in the early nineties, I had to special-order them from a company who advertised in the back of Spin Magazine. They were really, really good, though - much better even than the UK-made ones you'd get later when they started to be popular, and of course way better than the ones made in China after that. The leather was much nicer, mostly - more pliable and with a better/thinner finishing… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 11:59 AM on May 13, 2015

What.

Literally every person I know wore Docs in the early nineties. They were everywhere.


Not in 1991 in the suburbs, they weren't.

The Doc Martens trajectory seems to have really taken off about 91-92. I first wanted a pair in 1990 because the most artsy and stylish girl in my class had them. I assume she'd gotten them in Chicago, but I wasn't allowed to roam around in the city… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 12:46 PM on May 13, 2015

Why Do Cats Run the Internet?
"Exploiting the interest in cats" - now that should have been my career.
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 1:35 PM on May 12, 2015
If cats rule the internet because they remind us of babies, it's because they are babies for people who don't like babies. And for people who have enough real babies that they need a break.

I mean, I like several specific babies who are known to me personally, but as a group I am not especially drawn to them...but there's hardly a cat in the world I will not coo over.

I like cats on the internet because they are idealized forms of my cat. My… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 2:30 PM on May 12, 2015
My cat is so much nicer when there are strangers. Everyone thinks she is so sweet and shy, but when it's only household people she is loud and fussy, and also she has this new thing where she does not like it when I sleep late even if I have already gotten up and fed her. "Get up, food ape!!" she says. "Time's a-wastin'!!!"
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 3:14 PM on May 12, 2015
As though if cats ran the internet, they'd allow pictures of nasty, hateful, *OTHER* cats on it. Hah.

Yes, there are some bad cats who hang out in our yard sometimes. They will not be allowed on the cat internet ever, ever, ever.

Realistically, there will only be fish on the cat internet. At least all of it that is hosted on Frownercat's server. And maybe some bats. ("They're like mice! If a mouse had a baby with a bird!!!")
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 5:12 PM on May 12, 2015

Is gay passé?
See, I feel like this essay is asking two separate questions and getting them muddled up:

One is "should there exist a specific gay culture that descends from the 19th century and has this particular set of icons and practices, eg RuPaul?"

The other is "does being not-straight make you different in itself, does it give rise to different insights and different ways of being in the world in some kind of… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 1:02 PM on May 12, 2015

Gay Skinhead Oi! Poster Boy
People weren't just beaten by skinheads at that time - there were murders. My Night Out, by the Homosexuals (appropriately enough) is about the murder of one of their Pakistani friends by skinheads. I don't believe anyone was caught - you have to wonder if Nicky Crane or his buddies were involved.

I guess I worry that figures like Nicky Crane attract much more interest and sympathy than their many, many victims. "Handsome tragic white guy who does wrong but… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 12:33 PM on May 11, 2015
The more I think about this, the more I think that it's just...it's a blank story, it can't be recuperated to a moral. I think there's this huge cultural habit of turning stories about racism (or other isms, but most often racism) into repentance/redemption tales, because that allays anxiety and guilt. This is the story of a short, wasted life and some horrible violence. It's only a moral tale in a very large sense, in that it shows that short, wasted lives are a product of… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 2:49 PM on May 11, 2015
What? No.

I was saying that in my opinion it's a story that can't be recuperated to a moral, despite the fact that our culture pushes itself to recuperate stories about racism to a moral. This is something I've been thinking about because in a class I teach, the group almost immediately tries to domesticate our reading material by deciding who is good, who bad, whose immoral choice doomed who, etc, and it often does a disservice to the material.… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 2:46 AM on May 12, 2015
I add, now that I have actually woken up, that I'm sorry that my comments came across that way. It was actually a very interesting story and I have already ordered that Children of the Sun novel that is about an upper class gay guy who gets obsessed with Nicky Crane.
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 6:13 AM on May 12, 2015

Two Sisters, Two Views of Gay Marriage
You know what? I just want to say to an audience that I am so proud of my dad, who went from being an opponent of gay marriage (on something like Elizabeth's grounds) to a guy who accepts gay marriage purely because he was argued around to it - unlike almost everyone in the whole world, he thought about an issue and then changed his mind. Also he is way more accepting of trans people than I had ever expected him to be. My dad - so much better than I believed him to be when I was a teen!
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 12:11 PM on May 11, 2015
I find it much easier to accept that people make complicated choices in their family relationships when those are not the subject of a back-and-forth in the Atlantic - of all places! - as if somehow Elizabeth's muddled thinking about the history and purpose of marriage needs to be presented to everyone so that we can fully understand that family relationships are complex. Basically, this article presents gay marriage as if there are "two sides" that are equally legitimate, equally good… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 2:41 PM on May 11, 2015

7s looking for 10s but they think they’re 11s
I was just thinking this morning that I'm so lonely it hardly bears close examination - but this cheered me right up, because it's clear that other people have things so much worse. At least all the people I am Not Dating are feminist and interesting and not nouveau riche.
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 7:46 AM on May 10, 2015

That’s the problem with humans. We have too much ambition.
I would like to believe that CrossFitters are all really annoying, except that the ones I know are not, and also I am thinking that I might give it a shot in six months or a year since I've been making steady fitness improvements. I need to find a place that is CrossFit For The Comparatively Old, though. I mean, as I understand it you just....do varied, fairly intense workouts regularly? And some people get kind of obsessed with keeping their calves warm and wear ridiculous/fetishy socks at… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 5:02 PM on May 8, 2015

I Know You Can't Control Yourself Any Longer
My mom has no rock; my parents consider popular music vulgar. My mom likes Edith Piaf.

This guy's mom is no fool, though, vide her comment about "what do black dads think of as 'dad rock'", which kind of exposes the class and race angle on the whole thing.
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 3:44 PM on May 8, 2015

Art distribution in the US, measured in persons per monet.
There would be some hilarity in the crashing of various sectors of the art market when all this stuff was sold. "Let's dump our scarce commodities onto the market quickly to raise capital!!!!"

But of course, all that would happen would be that these lesser works would go from being public property (and thus seen very occasionally and available for curated display) to being private property and unavailable. The Art Institute of Chicago, at least, brings out… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 11:51 AM on May 7, 2015
No, my point was not "let's prop up the art market"; my point was that if you think that you have, say, $28 billion dollars worth of art and you - along with other museums - try to sell a lot of it at once, that's going to reduce the value of what you have. So "all we need to do is sell the less valuable majority of our holdings and we'll have lots of operating capital" may not actually work. Getting rid of the art and not realizing the… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 1:37 PM on May 7, 2015

“I am worth less than a shoe,” she said.
The juxtapositions in nail salon workers’ lives can be jarring. Many spend their days holding hands with women of unimaginable affluence, at salons on Madison Avenue and in Greenwich, Conn. Away from the manicure tables they crash in flophouses packed with bunk beds, or in fetid apartments shared by as many as a dozen strangers.

Ms. Ren worked at Bee Nails, a chandelier-spangled salon in Hicksville, N.Y., where leather pedicure chairs are equipped with iPads on
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posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 9:11 AM on May 7, 2015
I think this article is, overall, somewhat overblown, particularly the pull quote. "I am worth less than a shoe"? No, if you damage a customer's property, you pay for it. Just like if you damage a stranger's property, they can take you to small claims court, and guess what? You pay for it.

But at higher-status jobs, "breakage/mistakes by employees" is a category that is written into expenses and anticipated, not taken out of wages -… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 9:16 AM on May 7, 2015

Elton John: Prisoner of New York
That's so interesting. I would be intrigued to hear from mefites older than me who remember Elton John's performances/cultural position from the seventies, because I definitely grew up thinking "Elton John, that's the really flashy guy who had that "Piano Man" song, no wait, that's Billy Joel, anyway the Boomers like him". He's sort of in this "I don't know what you actually sing but I think it's sappy adult contemporary" niche in my head.
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 1:52 PM on May 6, 2015
I mean, think about all the characters who are coded as gay in older film - with some exceptions (where we are intended to read the character as a villain or a failure) straight audiences wouldn't recognize this even though it seems pretty visible now. Gore Vidal has this whole story about how he basically created a past-gay-relationship subtext for Ben Hur, which he explained to one of the actors but not to the guy playing Ben Hur himself...and no one noticed, except that the subtext was… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 7:15 AM on May 7, 2015

Trauma Porn
See, this is precisely the enclosure feature of capitalism - using these real women's lives to create cultural capital for the producers without any regard for the economic or social consequences for these women. These women had something the producers wanted - a tasty, sellable story - and so they went on in and stole it from those women to make it into money. Like any big, unregulated business, they gave the women as little as they could get away with - which in this… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 8:14 AM on May 5, 2015

"In case you haven't noticed lately, girls are all about that dad bod."

It has always killed me how a lot of my female peers (well, preppy women who were in sororities, mostly) have worked really hard to maintain the same looks they had at 18 and 19 years old--and they do look great, honestly--and ended up marrying men who, at age 26, already looked fifty. It's depressing how many men can do basically no work on their appearances and still demand wives who look 19. I have so many questions about the power dynamics in these marriages.
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posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 8:46 AM on May 2, 2015
I wonder if we could get at some useful stuff by moving away from language about "appropriating" and "stealing" - it seems like those are not useful terms for something as abstract as "having casual sex" or "being attracted to non-cut bodies". (Whereas they're very useful for concrete stuff like "wearing a fake Native headdress to a music festival" or "my college peers from towns just as white as mine breaking out all the AAVE".)… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 11:22 AM on May 4, 2015

"... a kind of purgatory-themed amusement park"
You know, it makes sense that their albums have para-religious themes, because they're obviously a peasant religious movement, and you could place them in line with the medieval heretics or the followers of Thomas Muntzer, by which I mean a (not without flaws) roughly communistic movement for the dispossessed which tries to articulate meaning for the lives of the totally disregarded and carries an apocalyptic vision of justice. Probably Thomas Muntzer's people looked just as crazy, dirty, etc,… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 1:19 PM on April 30, 2015
(Just as a clarifying point, too, I admire communist peasant religious movements like all get out. My point isn't "oh, look at this quaint JesusInFacepaint proletarian phenomenon".)
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 1:37 PM on April 30, 2015


Yeah, de gustibus and all, but a religio-communist peasant movement motivated by an apocalyptic vision of justice sounds about as appealing as sitting down to listen to an ICP record. When it comes to communist utopias, I prefer my justice secular, my mise-en-scène Morris, and my score acid folk.


And my guess is that you are neither of a social/cultural background where people tend to become juggalos nor a… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 2:11 PM on April 30, 2015

Crowdsourced micro-etched emoji of the far lunar future
This is like the Worst Version of science fiction. Private rocket ships are going to the Moon, where they will scribble internet garbage on its surface FOREVER, because great human artistic impulse.

I mean seriously, the moon shouldn't just be a place where anyone who can afford it can go and mess things around.
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 2:15 PM on April 29, 2015
But it's not real, right? This is a joke or a satire or something? It looks real, but I'm pretty gullible.
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 2:20 PM on April 29, 2015
Why should our legacy be sanitized and approved by committee? Why don't we want actual, real people's thoughts up there? Isn't ancient Greek graffitti just as interesting and authentic as their statues? For example? This isn't Virgin Galactic putting their logo on the moon. It's a way for regular people, without paying tens of thousands of dollars, to get their expression someplace that might last a while longer than a single human memory.

I think… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 7:08 PM on April 29, 2015
But okay, look, the moon does not belong just to the US, or just to Carnegie Mellon. The moon does not belong just to people with internet access and the right set of cultural connections to participate in this. It's a nominally "democratic" process curated by a couple of elite class men at an elite class private institution with sort of a vaguely populist rhetoric. I am very skeptical of "democratic" processes that are basically "huh, putting this out there on the… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 10:52 AM on April 30, 2015
Do you really think that when and if humans start colonizing space the same shit that happens on Earth isn't going to happen there?

Funny that you should ask, since that's one of the things we routinely discuss in the science fiction classes that I teach. It's one of the earliest themes of science-fiction-as-we-know-it-today, which dates from the space travel romances/colonization of Mars stories of the late nineteenth century. Quite a lot of popular… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 1:26 PM on April 30, 2015

Have We Seen the End of the 8-Hour Day?
There's a world of difference between someone working sixty or seventy hours a week in interesting work that is respected and someone working sixty hours a week in boring work where you're treated badly and looked down on. Boredom, being treated with disrespect and having no control over your work cause physical stress and erode the health - it's the same as minority stress.

You see this in academia all the time - the seventy year old who is still teaching and… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 12:31 PM on April 30, 2015

So far I’ve met zero people from Tinder.
I really thought that this was going to go somewhere and yet it didn't. I mean, it seems like the critique of Tinder needs to be something more than "I am not getting hook-ups out of it, possibly because I feel ambivalent about hooking up" crossed with "people spend a LOT of time on Tinder, not unlike when they were obsessed with Angry Birds or Candy Crush except sex, you know".

Also, to me it read like Donald Barthelme, but without the irony or… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 11:36 AM on April 29, 2015
I three have met zero people on Tinder, possibly because I have never used Tinder, although perhaps this would be true even if I did use Tinder. But is it just for straight people? All the essays I've read about it are by straight people.
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 11:37 AM on April 29, 2015
I think I speak for all straight men when I say: Sigh. Yeah, I know discrimination and stuff is pretty bad. But still. One of my fuck buddies, he says. Man oh man.

What is one of the prices that straight men pay for misogyny? No fuck buddies. (Or at least, a distinct dearth.)

When I think back on when I dated guys - and this is just an anecdote for reference! - there were all kinds of… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 12:56 PM on April 29, 2015

An inefficiency in the market of underemployed, educated people
Some of us, of course, are just highly educated people who aren't getting funneled into creative or elite work; we're just working class people who have admin gigs because that's the way the ball bounces. Some of us - by which I mean me - just about cried tears of joy when we were hired, because our - and I mean my - jobs carried benefits, regular working hours and a short commute even if they weren't high status or high paying.

In general, writing about American work… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 12:24 PM on April 28, 2015
Although I should add that it's an interesting essay and I would gladly accept $90,000 - 110,000 a year to be the ninja of personal assistants.
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 12:27 PM on April 28, 2015

A Dispatch From the Shifting, Porous Border Between Butch and Trans

So now, there's a part of me that says "you've been this 'you' for so long, you don't need to transition." But when I see guys who've chosen it, I feel this jealousy and anger: "Why do they get to be themselves and I can't? It's not fair!" (which, of course, feels like my 5 year old self clawing its way back into my consciousness and asking me to make him whole.)


I really feel this.

I wish the… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 7:02 AM on April 28, 2015

Freddie Gray protests: Governor of Maryland Declares State of Emergency
Cops always abandon dangerous fucking jobs. I mean, if there's one thing I've noticed about protests, and one thing I've noticed about my heavily policed neighborhood, it's that the vulnerable groups are the ones the cops pick on. May I never forget it, the last really violent protest I was in the thick of, the cops were throwing around this tiny girl in her early twenties. And everyone knows that the cops pick people off late in the protest - the ones who are straggling… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 7:31 PM on April 27, 2015
Okay, yes, looting is bad for the neighborhood in which it happens. Is everyone who handwrings about that going to kick down money or labor to rebuild stuff? If they [not so much people in this thread but the outside world] are so upset about that poor, poor neighborhood, why can't they actually work with organizations that literally rebuild stuff? Why can't they start a foundation to run a co-op drugstore? If you're literally mostly upset about how bad looting is for the looted neighborhood..… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 6:33 AM on April 28, 2015

Why are you still here?
Aren't Ukip, like, fascists? Richard Seymour just had an article talking about where Ukip actually seems to be drawing most of its votes, and it does not appear to be directly from Labor.

I could be wrong but I have gotten the impression from following this a bit that there are a lot of people outside Ukip (and outside Labor) who want to rebrand it as the party of the forgotten white working class, and that there's been quite an effort in the BBC (a couple of television… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 5:56 AM on April 25, 2015

A Comprehensive List of Everything Karl Lagerfeld Hates
I actually get a huge kick out of Karl Lagerfeld. He is the only person in the world who can say that he doesn't like fat people, short people, ugly people or intellectual conversations but still seem like an adorable little troll puppet to me.

I would also like a job as a cat servant. I'm already an amateur cat servant, so at least in that case I'd get paid.

Choupette is very pretty. Not as pretty as my cat, but close.
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 9:13 AM on April 24, 2015
Noooooooo, not even a little bit creepy! Yes, far more people should make things like this! Totes....adorbs.
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 9:17 AM on April 24, 2015
What he is, though, is an absolutely fascinating person who lives life entirely on his own terms. I think he's also a hell of a lot smarter than most give him credit for. Also, kind of intensely tragic and alone.

If you have not read The Beautiful Fall, which is full of exceedingly memorable biographical information about both Lagerfeld and Saint Laurent, plus many big fashion names of the seventies and eighties, you totally should. Unless the book is… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by Frowner at 10:15 AM on April 24, 2015

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