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MeFi post:
Caring Too Much
Although you could make "will serve black customers" or "will perform gay marriages" part of the explicit hiring criteria, I assume.
The criteria isn't "serve black customers" (or "perform gay marriages") it's do your job.
posted by lullaby at 9:54 AM on July 11 [1 favorite +] [!]
So, how do you feel about the state employee who resigned rather than see that the flag was at half-mast for Jesse Helms?
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 8:06 AM on July 11, 2008
(And it was a forced resignation, btw.)
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 8:10 AM on July 11, 2008
It's not a matter of being offended. It's a matter of being forced to violate one's religious convictions. Which is discriminatory toward said religion.
As long as all faiths are entitled to the same protection, what is the problem?
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 8:11 AM on July 11, 2008
So what a lot of you are saying is that it is just fine to discriminate against someone's religion.
You want your rights and at the same time you want to deny someone theirs. And rather than let someone make a commonsense accomodation (the kind of thing that here in the states is legally required for disabilities, for example) you would much rather she have to choose to leave her job. Because you don't care about her right to worship as she chooses and to honor her God.... [more]
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 9:56 AM on July 11, 2008
(In other words, the gay marriages are in no danger of not getting registered here. Just wanted to make my last point clear.)
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 9:57 AM on July 11, 2008
bigot
That word does not mean what you think it means.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 9:58 AM on July 11, 2008
Purely as an exercise in hypotheticalness, what if the situation were an atheist or a Muslim who was, as a part of his job, required to determine the tax exempt status of an organization and refused to do any paperwork for Christian churches because of reasons of personal principle. Would you still feel right in defending them?
Yes, of course!
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 11:34 AM on July 11, 2008
By the way at the risk of being pointed at and laughed at even more, I would like to posit that as sin in general is more and more accepted, tolerated and even celebrated in America, our economy is going more and more in the toilet,(gas prices, mortgage crisis, forclosures) natural disasters are increasing in scope and strength, (New Orleans, California fires, Midwest flooding, etc) and even more folks getting struck by lightning lately. Seriously.
Even Leno made a joke... [more]
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 1:10 PM on July 11, 2008
konolia Freedom of religion is not a blanket cover for any evil a person wants to commit.
I think the definition of evil here varies considerably.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 1:27 PM on July 11, 2008
has been ordered that she shall remain a marriage registrar and that the organization shall waste time, resources, and goodwill by tiptoeing around her insanity,
YOUR OPINION is that it's "her insanity." You don't have the right to choose for all six billion people on the planet what "insanity" is. Any more than I do.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 10:56 AM on July 12, 2008
So, up untill this century can anyone point me to any place on this planet where same sex marriage has existed as part of a society?
I am dead dog serious. I want to know.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 10:57 AM on July 12, 2008
Hey, waittasec... there's a fornicator in your family, isn't there? I seem to recall your daughter has a bastard son. How come she gets off scot-free?
She's married. She was married when the baby was born.
But, since you asked, you don't even have to pick on someone who isn't even here. I used to be a fornicator. And I did drugs. And I drank to excess. And I probably littered here and there.
I never... [more]
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 1:35 PM on July 12, 2008
Sonohito, on what basis do you claim human rights? Where do human rights come from?
And I don't think I'd be saying "other humans." Because if you do, other humans get to change their mind from time to time what those rights are.
As to the question I had re history, I really did want to know, but I do still note that the vast majority of cultures-true, with some exceptions-still see the definion of marriage between male and female.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 1:39 PM on July 12, 2008
The falsehood you doubtless wish to perpetuate here is that acceptance of homosexuality is wrong because it reduces the population
What????
No, don't be silly. What does that have to do with anything?
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 4:27 PM on July 12, 2008
mullingitover, I have seen miracles. And I know people-that is plural, please notice-that have seen demons. I have had plenty of answers to prayer. I could go on and on.
Just because you don't believe in a supernatural realm doesn't mean there isn't one.
While we are at it, I am not one of those who winks at divorce, either. I get ticked off at those who do. Marriage is serious business. If one ends, it is a tragedy. I don't want someone to... [more]
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 4:35 PM on July 12, 2008
So when do we schedule the stoning, konolia? Matthew 5:17-18 and 23:1-3 make it abundantly clear that Christ expects his followers to maintain and uphold the Old Testament laws.
Read further-remember the story about Jesus and the woman caught in adultery? He said to the crowd,"Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."
To her, he simply said:"Go, and sin no more."
But to... [more]
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 8:20 PM on July 12, 2008
He lumps it in with all kinds of immorality.
Look, this reminds me of 1978 when I sat in the bookstacks of the NC State library trying to find biblical loopholes so I could go sleep with a boyfriend. I'm sure I twisted a few braincells into pretzels in the process.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 8:44 PM on July 12, 2008
Let me ask y'all a question- can you find ONE place where Jesus specifically condoned homosexual sexuality?
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 8:46 PM on July 12, 2008
Mullingitover, you might be interested in the lyrics to that little vignette....song by Rich Mullins.
Oh when He rolls up his sleeves He ain't just puttin' on the ritz,
Our God is an awesome God
There is thunder in his footsteps and lightning in his fists
Our God is an awesome God
And the Lord wasn't joking when He kicked 'em out of Eden
It wasn't for no reason that He... [more]
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 5:40 AM on July 13, 2008
Here, FFF, this will help you out regarding that:
First part of Romans 7:
1 Or do you not know, brethren (for I am speaking to those who know the law), that the law has jurisdiction over a person as long as he lives? 2 For the married woman is bound by law to her husband while he is living; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law concerning the husband. 3 So then, if while her husband is living she is joined to another man,... [more]
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 1:43 PM on July 13, 2008
So it's probably a good idea to find that cat
Aslan is NOT a tame lion.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 8:49 PM on July 13, 2008
Again, with the mistaking of metaphor and simile for myth and fantasy.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 8:11 AM on July 14, 2008
http://biblecc.com/matthew/19-12.htm
Okay, above is the passage in question, in a whole long list of translations....and in NONE of these translations does this have anything to do with homosexuality. It refers either to men who are NOT having sex either because of birth defects, being castrated or because of personal choice to be celibate.
On what possible grounds could you derive from any of these passages that homosexuality was approved by... [more]
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 11:37 AM on July 14, 2008
I think he meant we want you to cite proof of your assertion that a eunuch is a homosexual.
By the way, the eunuchs who were born that way would refer to babies with birth defects in the genital region that would prevent them from reproducing.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 11:46 AM on July 15, 2008
BP, first of all Jesus did condemn sin in general and immorality in particular. Second of all Romans is part of the New Testament, and as much a part of the Word of God as the red letter parts of the Gospels. Third, Romans makes it abundantly clear God's position on homosexuality-and a few other things...
Romans 1:16-32
16For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew... [more]
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 4:02 PM on July 15, 2008
Oh, and one other thing, BP...in the passage you quote? The context is clearly that of heterosexual marriage and divorce. Basic hermaneutics.
We cannot make the text say what we want it to say or we wish it to say. We have to take what it says in context with the Bible as a whole.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 4:05 PM on July 15, 2008
We cannot make the text say what we want it to say or we wish it to say. We have to take what it says in context with the Bible as a whole.
I hope you've never eaten any shellfish, then.
I think you're full of it. I also think you know full well that you're full of it, too.
posted by Blazecock Pileon more than 12 hours ago [+]
I had shrimp for lunch.
While we are... [more]
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 11:22 AM on July 16, 2008
But I really would like to see you justify your claim, with something real, that homosexuality is wrong.
What would you consider real?
Look, I am a lot more interested in seeking God and figuring out how He wants me to live and serve Him than I am trying to prove this particular point to people who would rather not hear it.
I figure that before one hundred years are out, everyone on this thread will... [more]
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 11:29 AM on July 16, 2008
Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, John McCain and the other Republican perpetrators of divorce and remarriage are, in your book, not sinners at all and assured of their place in heaven; but homosexuality you condemn
I never said any of them were going to heaven. But divorce is not the unpardonable sin either. Having said that, I have no idea if any of those men are genuinely born again. I have my doubts on most if not all of them.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 11:31 AM on July 16, 2008
I know of at least three separate places in the New Testament where it is made plain that dietary laws are no longer required of Christians. (Including specifically one place where Jesus declared all foods to be clean now.) In the book of Acts, as a matter of fact, they had the discussion of what would be required of gentile believers-they decided that as long as we abstained from strangled meat and sexual immorality, we were cool. The guys don't even have to be circumsized anymore.... [more]
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 4:30 PM on July 16, 2008
Wendell, who hacked your account, old buddy? And on what would you base your morality? The sand is shifting under your feet, my friend.
(And I have no video camera, so you aren't gonna be missing anything-but truth to tell all you'd be seeing me upload would be video of the grandbun and possibly the antics of the feral herd of cats that live on my block.)
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 8:21 PM on July 16, 2008
You can live a behaviorally flawless life
But that is the rub. NO ONE CAN DO THAT.
We are all corrupt, every one of us, and none of us even wants to seek God. Salvation is more than saying "magic words." It is a literal supernatural act in which because of Christ's sinless life, substitutionary death and resurrection, we are in a legal sense redeemed and restored to full fellowship with God. Literally born again.... [more]
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 7:21 AM on July 17, 2008
Sonohito, I can appeal to basic health principles. Those that obey God's rules for sexual conduct get to avoid a multitude of health issues. But that's a side issue. The only matter that matters to me overall is-do people embrace their Creator or rebel against Him? That is the only thing that ultimately matters in this crazy world.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 7:23 AM on July 17, 2008
Well, obviously someone cares, otherwise why are they asking me questions?
(Oh and for the record, I am not a hyperCalvinist, and there are some points in Calvinism that I don't necessarily sign off on. God is bigger than Systematic Theology. ;-)
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 11:00 AM on July 17, 2008
Reason never kept anyone out of hell.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 11:58 AM on July 17, 2008
I follow a nonimaginary God, Wendell.
BTW you sure sound really different-is that really you or is someone hijacking your account? Cuz that ain't the Wendell I am familiar with.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 8:14 PM on July 22, 2008
Chuckdarwin, I have interacted with wendell for a long time and am used to his usual tone. This is NOT it.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 6:38 AM on July 23, 2008
I probably will-or see if he's over at MeCha.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 8:50 AM on July 23, 2008
MeFi post:
The Times They Are A Changin' because....
I dunno.
That scene with Obama was the perfect unicorn chaser for things like suicide by chainsaw.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 8:13 PM on July 16, 2008
Anymajordude, what I actually lilke about these jibjab cartoons is they are not meanspirited. There is so little of that in politics....
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 11:02 AM on July 17, 2008
MeFi post:
The psychological impact of war
We had a soldier over for dinner on Monday. He's been to Iraq.
After talking to him, I shudder to think of the psychological tsunami that is about to hit.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 6:38 AM on July 16, 2008
MeFi post:
Former United States Senator Jesse Helms, 1921 - 2008.
Was that the same Senator that hit a security guard?
Yeah, lawmakers are people too. And sometimes do pretty off the wall things. But they are senators, and the office itself deserves respect.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 8:11 PM on July 9, 2008
I thought it was Carol Mosely Brown both times-wasn't it?
And I said Southern because I know the south. I know nothing of foreign Yankee ways.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 6:31 AM on July 10, 2008
Put that link on the front page-that's quite interesting.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 6:20 AM on July 11, 2008
MeFi post:
Nearer to thee....
People don’t like to hear this, but we’re headed for perilous times—just a few years away from a collapse like the world has never known. When that happens, all who preached prosperity are going to disappear because the people will say, “Your gospel has failed me.” When that time comes, I want to grasp onto Jesus, and I want everyone I’ve preached to to have faith in the keeping power of Jesus Christ. I want them to know Him in His fullness. I want to know that I’ve done it in love, in... [more]
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 6:33 AM on July 10, 2008
The tone of the whole article I posted was negative toward a subset of the church that is not ready to undergo any kind of hardship. Because they are being taught that not much is required of them, and that God is Santa. David Wilkerson DOES denounce that sort of thing, as do plenty of preachers. THOSE guys aren't on TV though. Wonder why? Hmmm....
You don't find prosperity preachers in the underground church in China, you know.
posted to MetaFilter by konolia
at 12:39 PM on July 10, 2008
