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MeTa post: Palin thread weirdness in recent activity.
matteo writes "to sum it up: please contribute more and more free content to the Blue's front page (recycling Digg and Reddit is OK, too, as long as it's not political), because it keeps the business healthy"

Agreed. We all contribute the content here, and Matt takes home the money, and that's fine.

Yes, yes, it's Matt's site to do with as he pleases, but the value of the site comes from the community that posts... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 7:32 AM on September 4, 2008
dirtdirt writes "I say this as a person who has commented in and kept up with thread since it started:"

Tip: That new Google Chrome browser loads and renders this page much more easily than IE or FF. Yay!

I kept missing bombshells in the 'recent activity' view. Now, thanks to Chrome, I am privy to every allegation of dumbassery as it happens! Whee!
posted to MetaFilter by dirtdirt at 9:31... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 7:56 AM on September 4, 2008
cortex writes "We're getting to the point where there's actually been enough time and enough news that someone could probably put together an actually decent new Palin/McCain/RNC post (read: not a goddam 'Bristol is preggers!' newsflash) and it'd be fine. But a shit post? No."

But no one wants to spend the time and effort to try to achieve what you'll judge a "good post", because the perception is that you'll delete a post even... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 8:11 AM on September 4, 2008

MeTa post: Oh, come on
jessamyn writes "The first however many comments in the post were all 'I see what you did there' lulzy comments."

I've mentioned this before at greater length, but I'll say it again: an otherwise acceptable post shouldn't be deleted because one or more people lulz or thread-shit or intentionally derail in it. But that's what happens here. And it's a problem, because posters put some amount of work into posting, work that's undone by... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 7:48 PM on September 1, 2008
jessamyn writes "We've actually stepped up some of the thread-shitting removal and it seems to have made a big difference. I can only remember one or two threads on decent topics that were rendered unsalvageable because of people hellbent on destroying them. You're arguing against a guideline that doesn't exist."

Well, I didn't say it was a "guideline", I said it was a consequence. And I'm not arguing, I'm pointing it out. I'm... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 8:55 PM on September 1, 2008

MeTa post: Damned Papparazzi!
Uh-huh.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 5:51 PM on August 30, 2008

MeTa post: That which we call misogyny, by any other name...
"Longtime Mefi lurker and non-FPPoster here, registering strong disgust at some of the comments in the Sarah Palin thread."

So go into that thread, and refute those arguments you disagree with.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 12:56 PM on August 29, 2008
Crap, first Pat Buchanan getting ecstatic over Obama's speech, and now I'm agreeing with Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 10:42 PM on August 29, 2008

MeTa post: I know the Sarah Palin thread has your attention but AskMe Spam Still Sucks
orange swan writes "I found a great site about hot naked colourful swan sex that really does the trick. Check it out, you'll like it!"

Link?????
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 9:43 PM on August 29, 2008

MeTa post: Pony Request: Fix Live Preview Bugs
The simplest solution would be to make live preview, instead of the current client-side javascript, an ajax call that called the server-side filter on the text, and then rendered that in the live preview area. Then you'd have the exact same input going through the exact same filter.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 7:55 AM on August 29, 2008
Ah, right Malor, I forgot live preview was per character. I only look at it before I post.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 11:59 AM on August 29, 2008

MeTa post: What's in a name?
It's from a comp.lang.c++ post decrying "the cult of orthogonality". I always wanted a cult.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 8:59 PM on August 26, 2008
amyms writes "A couple of my friends who read it as 'Amy Ms.' think it looks like a porn name, but I don't see it."

I read it as a-mims for a long time, until I suddenly read it as "amy manuscript".
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 11:16 PM on August 26, 2008

MeTa post: Export Comments Counted?
Mine failed part way through.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 7:23 PM on August 25, 2008

MeTa post: The odometer rolls over
By proxy, and about eating pureed food. How appropriate.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 7:10 PM on August 24, 2008

MeTa post: Amazed at no FPP on McCain's epic gaff
prefpara writes "I fail to see how this is any more interesting or significant that the other minutia that we have more or less agreed to bar from the front page."

'Cause it's a two-fer McCain helpfully made a three-fer:
1. He's very rich, and out of touch with the common man
2. He's very old, too old to even remember how many houses he owns
and 3. His campaign came back and actually said, well, but John... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 10:04 PM on August 21, 2008

MeTa post: Why not MyMeta?
Y U hate on Teh linux? R U RIAA?
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 2:14 PM on August 21, 2008

MeTa post: you're not helping
Eh, the virus thing may be the right answer. Epidemics have curious consequences, terrible in the short term, sure, but the question is about the very Long Term.

In Europe, the Plague, by reducing the population of serfs, increased their economic bargaining power, which in increased their wealth, health, and rights, and their awareness they could bargain for rights. It also tore apart some hereditary land-owning families, which also led to greater... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 1:06 PM on August 19, 2008
Whoops. "Indeed, withOUT the Black Death,"
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 1:07 PM on August 19, 2008

MeTa post: fantastical
I've always read it as "fascist post/comment".
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 2:42 PM on August 14, 2008

MeTa post: Show me your nostrils!
Look, if we have images, den Beste's gonna post catgirls, and Jessamyn's gonna post guys fucking chickens. We really don't want to see what other users are fapping to.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 2:54 PM on August 12, 2008
jessamyn writes "Actually, I've always been able to post images, I just don't."

Sorry, for some reason I'd remembered a guy-fucking-a-chicken picture, and thought you'd posted it. My bad.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 6:01 PM on August 12, 2008

MeTa post: 9/11 was an inside job
WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 11:18 AM on August 9, 2008
I'll be honest. My last five posts here got a total of 93 favorites. All five were via Reddit.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 3:42 PM on August 9, 2008
Malor writes "Take the time to write things up carefully and thoroughly. Try to do it well enough that someone who cares about the subject, and comes along after you, won't be disappointed at how you summarized and presented a link they thought was worth putting up. In posting that link, you silenced them, so be sure you spoke well on their behalf."

About every fifth FPP I do as you suggest. But not more often than that, because there's a... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 4:09 PM on August 9, 2008
Malor writes "One thought that comes to mind: is the extra framing and background actually framing and background, or editorializing?"

Well, framing and background, as it the choice of a few links out of potentially millions,is a form of editorializing.

On my Luther's antisemitism FPP, what upset a small minority was that I mentioned the modern Lutheran sects' rejection of Luther's antisemitism.... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 6:23 PM on August 9, 2008
Phalene writes "I moved here, from Reddit, to escape the sexism."

Reddit's not sexist; it's just that down in th depths of their mothers' basements, they believe all women other than Mom are mythical. ;)
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 6:38 PM on August 9, 2008
This is too much:

sonic meat machine explains, with examples, that without a barrier to entry, we'd see users insulting each other.

jonmc, who arrived before the entry fee and might not have joined had there been a fee, begs to differ.

The same jonmc who in the last hour insulted me, and called PopeGuilty a "fuckhead", in a thread in the blue.

jon, jon, as the Polar Bear said to the... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 7:48 PM on August 9, 2008
dirigibleman writes "The hateful comments in the MeTa post that praised his FPP ultimately drove him from the site!"

Damn. That just sucks.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 8:40 PM on August 9, 2008
WCityMike writes "Going back to a system where we measure agreement by the quality of follow-up responses seems richer, somehow."

If we did that, we'd get "filler" responses of "yes, I agree" or "great post/comment". A favorite is just a much more compact shorthand for this, resulting in a more substantive thread.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 6:20 PM on August 11, 2008

MeTa post: ...almost TWO Hugos, in fact
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posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 9:06 PM on August 10, 2008

MeTa post: Favorite Not.
It does this when Javascript is turned off.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 8:04 AM on August 5, 2008

MeTa post: MeFi stream graphs
Sweet. I love how the graphs look like sheets of clay stacked together, then mashed and pulled like taffy.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 8:06 PM on August 3, 2008

MeTa post: that's what my daddy made me
A very impressive comment, if you're an undergraduate philosophy major impressed by late-night college bull sessions.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 6:37 AM on August 2, 2008
languagehat writes "And ortho, that was unworthy of you. Jealous?"

No, I don't think so. What I was keying off of, I think, was that Nasreddin's comment spent too much ink on letting know that he knows about the Romantics, Derrida, Nietzsche, the Chartists, the Anabaptists, and the Illuminati (yes, I am exaggerating slightly) before he made his point.

This reminded me of what (admittedly, intelligent and perceptive,... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 10:37 AM on August 2, 2008
nasreddin writes "But more to the point--do you have some kind of problem with me?"

Sorry, I didn't read your comment until I replied to languagehat's. Please see that for an answer. But to reply to you directly, I think you're very well read, maybe even erudite, but bit too interested in demonstrating that. Which is typical and forgivable in bright young men, and I'm sure like most others you'll get over it, without any lasting harm.... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 10:45 AM on August 2, 2008
Burhanistan, that's a bit over-the-top, I think.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 11:18 AM on August 2, 2008
nasreddin writes "The thing is, if you take all the name references and intellectualization out of my comment, there's no point there at all."

It's not the content, it's the tone. Thank you for bringing the intellectual heft and all that, but I can't taste the meat for all your seasonings.

nasreddin concludes "Also, while I see where you're coming from, the immense 'there, there, my lad'... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 11:24 AM on August 2, 2008
languagehat writes "And I'm saddened that you feel no need to apologize for being a complete dick, or even to back down a little. "

I'm not being a dick. My initial comment was that I didn't find nasreddin's comment any more impressive than what is heard in many an undergraduate bull-session. The comment had some merit, but it suffered from pretension. But only after you replied to my comment did I mention the pretension, and that I found... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 3:19 PM on August 2, 2008
"gilty" is my misspelling, nasreddin spelled it correctly and I mis-typed. (My new laptop, an eee 901, has a horrid keyboard, and regularly skips keys.)
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 3:23 PM on August 2, 2008
milarepa writes "There are a lot of well read people on this site who don't feel the need to name drop in order to appear so. "

Exactly. Omiewise, for example, is a big fan of Proust, and has read most if not all of Proust's work. But except in actual discussions of Proust or Remembrance of Things Past, Omiewise doesn't make haste to inform you that he's read those works. He doesn't name drop. languagehat (who's calling... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 3:34 PM on August 2, 2008
kittens for breakfast writes "but it does kind of seem to me that prompting a conversation about what a blowhard someone can be is itself the bigger dick-move,"

Again, all I initially said was I didn't find his comment so impressive. It was only after languagehat and nasreddin implied I had ulterior motives for that opinion that I went into cases.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 3:47 PM on August 2, 2008
desuetude writes "Wow. Ranty. Soooooo what you're saying is, yes, you're jealous?"

No.

What I'm saying is, I think nasreddin's a fraud and a show-off, a bunch of fancy talk that means nothing, the Wizard of Oz.

And in his later comments in this thread, he pretty much admits it, though of course he obscures that, as usual, with pretty and pretty meaningless verbiage.... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 7:39 PM on August 2, 2008
plexi writes "How is nasreddin a 'fraud'?"

I was referring to his statements "I think clearly expressed thoughts are uninteresting. Obscurity and allusiveness are to me virtues that I try to cultivate" and "half the time I have only the vaguest idea of what I'm saying". Someone else pointed out his pretensions in implying (I haven't read enough Derrida to pun 'imlying') that he's a proffesional historian.... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 10:03 PM on August 2, 2008
languagehat writes "Once there was a lion."

'hat, you keep saying and implying that I'm jealous of nasreddin. I'm not. What bugs me about him is the same thing that prompted me to mefimail you the my comment (which I was unabletopost because the thread closed) about PhilCubeta:Is it me, or is this Cubeta character a pretentious fuckwit?

Jessamyn closed the thread, just as I was posting this reply to him; am I... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 11:13 AM on August 3, 2008
chimaera writes "Where are the objectivists?"

Shrugging, presumably.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 11:30 AM on August 3, 2008

MeTa post: Suddenly Nicky
Sweet. I've been following her blog on and off. Good to see she's feeling up to commenting here.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 10:07 PM on August 2, 2008

MeTa post: Men do have babies. Ask any transgender man who has had one.
OH MY GAWD, somebody disagrees with your strongly held opinion!!elevnty111!

Whatever shall we do??

Oh, right, we're all adults here, and people have different opinions. Perhaps we'd be best served with trying to change those opinions by cogently refuting them, rather than complaining that not everybody marches in lock-step with us.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 7:22 AM on July 26, 2008

MeTa post: Call Olbermann, we got us THE WORST PERSON ON METAFILTER
wendell posted "Brian should be ashamed of himself, but probably lacks that ability. So let's all be ashamed of him."

Maybe he should be ashamed of himself. Personally, I found Dee Xtrovert had more to say to me that Brian B. did.

But I'd feel a bit more shameful for trying to organize a lynch mob, myself.

These callouts, these let's-all-get-together-and-proclaim-our-moral-superiority,... [more]
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 6:41 AM on July 26, 2008

MeTa post: Users and tags and dendrograms, oh my!
Here, try this: reduce your tag-space by clustering it alone, then cluster contributers by that, the clustered group tags. See if that's clearer.
posted to MetaTalk by orthogonality at 8:19 AM on July 23, 2008