I was invited by someone named Ampersand to join this thread, so here I am.
I plead guilty to the first link mentioned here. I really liked it and succumbed. I unequivocally deserve said tarring.
I plead not entirely guilty to today's cartoon. That quote I received in e-mail from a reader, and I thought it was his/hers. I get a lot of those, and it's my fault I don't check them as religiously as I should.
It dawned on me with some cold chills that this might have happened more than once. I get a flurry of submissions and one-liners every week, and I haven't checked many of them at all, because I rarely had to in the past. This just makes me look like an ass, either way.
Sorry, MeFi. I confess to one such infraction freely, but if there are others...well. I don't know if it matters what I say. posted to MetaTalk by illiadat 9:08 AM on February 23, 2009
It matters if you say something along the lines of, "Gosh, golly, so sorry! I'll take the offending comics down today and post an apology on the front page of my website, and also I'll ask my readers and the people who send me submissions to not cut-and-paste from copyrighted material anymore."
Done. Please give me a few hours.
I don't think anyone here's being unreasonable. Regardless of who or what was involved, no... [more] posted to MetaTalk by illiadat 9:27 AM on February 23, 2009
Are you still contending that you only took one quote directly, and the rest of the mounting pile of quotes were sent to you?
No. I accept responsibility for taking all of the quotes directly. It amounts to the same thing.
If the authors of said words wish to contact me, I'd be happy to talk to them about setting things right. posted to MetaTalk by illiadat 9:39 AM on February 23, 2009
You might want to not blame hordes of nameless readers for this one when you post your apology, given the likelihood that you yourself are the one who's been regularly borrowing from MeFites.
I won't be blaming anyone other than myself. posted to MetaTalk by illiadat 9:45 AM on February 23, 2009
As promised, there'll be apology on the front page; it updates at the top of the hour. I'll need more time to make the corrections to the comics. The posting should read:
I'm not really sure how to start this, so I'll use some links to help:
mathowie: Consider it done, just give me some time to make it so. posted to MetaTalk by illiadat 10:53 AM on February 23, 2009
Yes, I'm sure this was done for moral/ethical reasons, and not out of concern for legal challenges and adverse publicity.
I'm sure many here won't believe this, but I'm doing this principally because I feel like a total ass. I'm not a dick, but I did do a dickish thing, and it's only right that I do my best to make amends. posted to MetaTalk by illiadat 12:11 PM on February 23, 2009
And today's lifted punchline is still up above the fold with no tip o' the hat to MeFi.
You might want to refresh. There's a credit to "Optamystic @ MetaFilter" on panel 2 and it's been there since 11:15 Pacific. posted to MetaTalk by illiadat 12:17 PM on February 23, 2009
If you click on the toon to see the tiny print better it vanishes. Might want to fix that.
Refresh the larger 'toon as well. The credit is there and has also been up since 11:15. posted to MetaTalk by illiadat 12:24 PM on February 23, 2009
I realize this is probably a work in progress, but finding some way to actually include a link as attribution would make a lot of sense, here.
Obviously this can't be done in the strip, at least not with the software I have on the site. What I can do is post a link at the top of each day's forum back to the quote in question. posted to MetaTalk by illiadat 12:30 PM on February 23, 2009
Illiad, exactly what does "I used them unthinkingly" mean?
I didn't think when I did it. If I had, I wouldn't have done it.
I don't see why not. For instance, right below the main page's comic there's an image bar ad linking to some domain registrar.
That image bar ad only exists on the front page, and the page is updated daily. The link needs to be in the archives where... [more] posted to MetaTalk by illiadat 12:49 PM on February 23, 2009
A stickie-at-the-top comment with the attribution details and link would be a decent step forward, yes, though if that's not visible for readers who have comments set to hide (which I gather is the default stat), it's effectively not there, which isn't great.
Yes, that's grief. I'll think of a way around that.
In the meantime, I'm going back into the archives to search for others. I might miss some, so please understand that if I do it's not on purpose. posted to MetaTalk by illiadat 12:56 PM on February 23, 2009
Just place a similar image bar below the archived version of the comic. Presumably it won't be happening too often in the future so it shouldn't add that much work to the archival process, right?
The issue is the way the archive pages are generated. Adding a bar under specific cartoons isn't easy, at least not for a non-coder. But I'll find a way, whether it's with ALT text or whatever. I'll get it done. I know I don't deserve your patience, but I do... [more] posted to MetaTalk by illiadat 1:01 PM on February 23, 2009
What are your plans for attributing that material?
Assuming that any others do exist -- and I'm really hoping that's not the case*, they'll receive the same treatment.
*I'm sure my credibility here is hovering around, if not on, zero, but my lifting comments has been restricted to MeFi. There's one cartoon way in the past that I later learned to be a direct lift of an old UNIX manual cartoon, which I foolishly drew and posted... [more] posted to MetaTalk by illiadat 1:11 PM on February 23, 2009
Did you know it was plagiarism? How would you feel if people lifted your words for their competing webcomic, espcially given your out-there and draconian "WE HAVE LAWYERS!" notes sprinkled all over your site? I mean, I am trying to understand you here, man, I'm not trying to trick you into anything.
At the time I honestly didn't think anything of it. In hindsight it was utterly stupid. I've had my words lifted several times to my knowledge,... [more] posted to MetaTalk by illiadat 1:17 PM on February 23, 2009
Potomac: I like that idea and it's a lot more do-able (that is, it requires only me and Photoshop) than the other suggestions. If no one else is against the idea, I'll go with that. posted to MetaTalk by illiadat 1:34 PM on February 23, 2009
And now I have to depart. Please MeMail if you find something that needs my attention. Otherwise, I'm off to concentrate on making this as right as I can. posted to MetaTalk by illiadat 1:49 PM on February 23, 2009
Don't dismiss this too easily as one friend being a complete ass to another. Mr. Anthropomorphism at the very top and most everyone else have good reason to be worried. I'm really familiar with this kind of scenario: a pile of money on the table for the taking, and two or more people involved, with all of them thinking they're entitled to a piece.
You'd think you'd do the right thing. You think to yourself "Hell, if I just have enough to pay off my mortgage and my... [more] posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 7:53 PM on February 10, 2009
Do Canadians have to give half of their lottery winnings back like they do here in the states?
Not one cent. I always thought it was odd that the U.S., the land of capitalism and conservative fiscal policy, taxed the hell out of lottery winnings. Not so in Soviet Canuckistan. You keep it all. You are of course taxed on interest earned from the winnings, but that's not unexpected. posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 8:23 PM on February 10, 2009
Eating bugs is no big deal. Have you ever had a good hard look at a lobster? Fuck me, those things are horrific looking, and yet they're delicious.
I wasn't a fan of the girl in the first link twisting the limbs off the mantis though. Christ, just kill it outright then eat it. No sense in torturing the poor thing. I found myself rooting for the mantis, hoping it would mince up her tongue with those serrated bad boys it had. posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 3:59 PM on February 10, 2009
Is there a place where we can give money to hire ex Special Forces teams to go in and arrest vicious assholes like Kony? Arrest and line up for a trial and a hanging? posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 5:26 PM on February 6, 2009
WTF is with all the hate in this thread? Ferfuckssakes, a guy killed his wife accidentally. Stupidly, preventably, but accidentally. What the fuck kind of purpose do you serve shitting all over someone who is likely emotionally destroyed?
Sometimes the snark I see on The Blue isn't snark. Sometimes it's "I'm-so-cool-that-I-can-act-like-an-utter-twat-and-not-get-my-nuts-kicked-in" behaviour. Jesus fucking hell. posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 7:37 PM on February 2, 2009
Many of the same women who complain that their husbands don't do anything also spend a goodly chunk of their time gelding them. I expect most of those men after the first year of marriage can only pee sitting down.
Also, those women who actually think that no men are involved in their children's lives and that hard-working, wife-helping men don't exist, can't exist, go fuck yourselves up the ass with the most poisonous sea-urchin you can find. And... [more] posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 7:43 PM on January 29, 2009
I don't get all this talk about how having kids = misery. It might be, if you didn't want kids to begin with, but I wanted my children and I'm finding joy and fulfillment like I never have before.
You can call me tired, exhausted at times, harried, confused, occasionally terrified and often puzzled, but my kids have yet to make me or my wife "miserable." Maybe that'll come when they hit their teens!
Those of you going on about how... [more] posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 12:07 AM on January 30, 2009
And when they've tossed a guy on the scrap heap, or after he's wised up and tossed her, lots of those guys get left gun-shy and messed up and bitter and wondering why there "aren't any good women" around [...]
What a lot of those guys mean when they ask why there "aren't any good women around" is "why aren't there any women with rock-hard fitness model bodies with fake titties around who also want me for me, instead of my money?... [more] posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 1:35 PM on January 28, 2009
I've done a lot of business flying (enough that I knew what day of the week it was by what city I was in) and I echo suedehead above: if you fly the cheap seats, don't expect an armchair with a footrest, a French four-course meal followed by a glass of Moët et Chandon, and your own personal valet. Economy is A to B travel with the barest minimum of dignity. I've done a lot of it, and I hate it.
Biz class travel varies. I've flown what American Airlines calls "First... [more] posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 10:27 PM on January 27, 2009
I had extensive training in cursive in primary school, and I've kept up the practice. I was freshly re-motivated when I saw a truly gorgeous example of cursive several years ago. Reading the writing was pure pleasure. Really excellent cursive qualifies as fine art. I also really enjoy writing on a good vellum with a fountain pen.
Some people are exceptionally good at this, and they should be encouraged to keep it up as a beautiful art. Others, like me, appreciate fine... [more] posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 5:46 PM on January 25, 2009
There's a slang word in the English language for female genitalia beginning with "c" that I don't like hearing used unless it's in a porn movie, but I'm having trouble not using it to describe this so-called "nurse." posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 1:33 PM on January 20, 2009
I don't get the furor. Sure, it's very possible the CBSA was playing arsehole politics, and that sucks (and Harper is a prick etc etc etc), but several comments here imply that Ayers' had his rights trampled by Canada Immigration. That's utter bullshit, because Ayers doesn't have a right to enter Canada, nor does anyone who isn't a Canadian citizen.
Whenever I cross into the U.S. it's yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir from me. I'm not a U.S. citizen, and I've always... [more] posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 12:14 AM on January 20, 2009
Fucking-A. As a tween I was harangued with comments like "half-breed" for a few years, until high school when the girls thought half-Asian half-white guys were, like, hot. So a big hearty fuck you to the purebred dorks who thought their racial purity was all that and a bag of salt and vinegar. posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 10:26 PM on December 31, 2008
I wish both sides would just wipe each other out completely..they have failed @ life.
I presume you're excluding the little kids and other innocents in this, am I right kampken? Or do you think should they be glass cratered too?
Life is messy; the Arab-Israeli conflict is a perfect example of the Gordian Knot in a million shades of gray. If you're looking for someone to blame, you might also want to consider the colonial powers... [more] posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 12:32 PM on December 28, 2008
Crap like Prop 8 makes me mad. If there were ever a group of people who deserved being punched hard with a knuckle right in the spot where the dick connects with the nutsack, it's those who voted to declare gay marriages null and void. Even the women. posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 9:05 PM on December 26, 2008
Anyone who can't look at these pictures and see the love that this travesty of a law destroys can only be a cold, heartless douchenozzle.
Or someone who's switched their brain off in favour of pronouncements from an old book written by a bunch of long-dead zealots who were uncomfortable with the idea of two guys humping each other. posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 9:32 PM on December 26, 2008
To be fair Heminator, Optimus specified the backers of Prop 8 as the ones guided by irrational hatred, not the "majority of the state of California" as you put it. The majority of those who voted on Prop 8, yes, not the majority of the state.
Having said that, I don't give a fuck about winning over the people who supported Prop 8; I wager that the vast majority of them won't ever change their minds on this issue no matter what they're shown... [more] posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 11:15 PM on December 26, 2008
[...] but you think that these people are in fact "hateful, ignorant, disgusting bigots" for expressing their opinion. Good to know.
What else would you call them? Enlightened?
They did demonstrably more than simply express their opinion. They brought into law a measure that creates a lesser class of citizen. This is unforgiveably vile behaviour.
There is no advancing the... [more] posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 11:57 PM on December 26, 2008
bunnie - who called heterosexual marriage irrational or bigoted? I sure didn't. posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 11:59 PM on December 26, 2008
Lots of unreasonably testy people on the blue tonight, snarking at the slightest provocation, imagined or otherwise. You'd think it was a stressful time of year or something. posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 8:08 PM on December 24, 2008
I'm not even a U.S. citizen (nor a U.S. resident) and I can't help smirking over Obama's victory. I suppose it comes from the last eight years of utterly vile bullshit, smugness and bullying I witnessed coming from the U.S. Right. The Bush League couldn't even win graciously; I certainly don't expect them to lose with any sense of dignity.
I know it does no long-lasting good to mock the losing side, but after the last near-decade of putting up with... [more] posted to MetaFilter by illiadat 12:35 PM on December 22, 2008