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The Theology of Consensus
are there texts you can recommend on Athenian democratic processes?

Ober's Democracy and Knowledge is something like a standard text.
David Estlund is a really good introduction to sortition and the challenge it presents to voting (he calls it Queen for a Day)
I also love Herotodus' account of the debate among the Persians. Here's Otanes:

“[T]he rule of the multitude [plêthos de archon] has… the… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 12:39 PM on May 27, 2015

The Human Toll of Quiverfull
Societies are a lot healthier when there are multiple parallel authority structures -- your family, your church, your school, the state. When everything's folded into one authority structure, it's a lot easier for powerful people to get away with unchecked, open abuse for very long periods of time and with no consequences.

This is, basically, the thing that is true that I actually know. So I wanted to quote it, because most of the time when stuff… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 10:01 AM on May 26, 2015

Roleplaying's just like acting, but with your friends.
This is the unofficial "organize a Google+ Hangout game of Apocalypse World" thread.

It's not a derail because Vin Diesel is totally invited.

I vote for alternating Tuesdays from 9-midnight EST.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 6:48 AM on May 26, 2015
(I also vote for 2nd edition AW when it becomes available.)
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 6:50 AM on May 26, 2015

HSBC: The world has no policy tools left in face of possible recession
Sell HSBC shares right now because apparently their chief economist has not heard of quantitative easing.

Given that the financial news has been dominated by QE for five years, he must be incompetent. Alternatively, he is fear-mongering for profit (in which case, buy? I guess).
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 2:59 AM on May 25, 2015
QE skeptics are boring. They have made wildly divergent predictions about its bad effects, been disproven again and again, and keep claiming that sometime soon (soon!) the terrible parade of horrors they predicted will all come home to roost simultaneously in an awful deflation/hyper-inflation/bond vigilante/Grexit/currency war Mad Max nightmare.

posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 5:37 AM on May 25, 2015

“Today we have been told — yet again — our lives have no value.”
Bench trial. He won because to prove manslaughter the prosecution had to prove that his bullets killed them. He won because everybody else was doing it too.

Many of the officers involved are suing the police department for the alleged harsh treatment they received.

I can repeat these arguments but I don't believe them. it's just heart breaking to see this in same city that killed Tamir Rice.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 7:43 PM on May 24, 2015

“There are no dangerous thoughts; thinking it-self is dangerous.”
I have written, edited, and published many different versions of this piece excoriating the misbegotten criticisms of Arendt's Eichmann book, and Corey Robin's article is--for real--the best of the bunch.

The thing is that most of the criticisms are just erroneous--Jews who hadn't read the book but were offended by what they thought it said. But there's a class of reviewer who turned misogynistic tone policing into an art, and they're the ones Corey is going after. They… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 4:27 AM on May 22, 2015

"I would rather see the many other women's stories I haven't seen"
This seems right to me, but I still don't think it was necessary for her sterility to be such a big emotional deal. It could have just as easily been her murdering people and becoming a killer.

The echoes of Melinda May's big reveal around fertility and "the cavalry" make me think this was a deliberate and stupid choice.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 5:08 AM on May 20, 2015
I'm continually surprised that people see it any other way.

Isn't that kind of your fault? I mean, I can understand your interpretation, but you can't understand mine--and it's an interpretation shared by many, so it seems like you could at least try.

Having two badass women characters get an origin story rooted in fertility in quick succession starts to make it look like a trend. And these are standard… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 6:14 AM on May 20, 2015
headspace said it better than I can, but you're treating this like it's real life rather than a scene written by an author. The staging, the dialogue, the narrative and character decisions are all choices made by a writer: they're not given, they're created. There's certainly an internal logic to them, and if a Banner the real person said what he said to Romanov the real person, her response would be reasonable and comforting. But as a story choice it's different.… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 7:50 AM on May 20, 2015
Is the dialogue available anywhere? This really is a question of textual interpretation.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 8:17 AM on May 20, 2015

The Limits of Discourse
It seems like we could generate a general theory of intentions in the way that Harris suggests: by articulating a hierarchy of harms. This is why torts are punished less punitively than criminal negligence, which is dealt with less punitively than intentional criminality.

But why should we want that? In point of fact, people do more harm in the world through negligence and benign intention than they do through deliberate evil. So a consequentiality review of our… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 5:42 AM on May 19, 2015
New atheists are people who really hate God but really love American foreign policy

Could someone explain this, really? I mean, I've always felt a distance from the new atheists but never understood the reason. Yet this actually does seem to describe something at work here that I don't understand.

Dennett's no fan of American policy (foreign or domsteic), though, so that might explain why I like him.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 2:00 PM on May 19, 2015
Chomsky's position on Cambodia is that US news sources like the New York Times paid more attention to communist massacres than to capitalist massacres and the massacres of US client states. Which was true.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 5:20 AM on May 20, 2015
I don't think that Chomsky believes that the US has done more harm than communism. I think he believes that we're especially responsible for the harm the US does, because we're actually immensely powerful as citizens if we are willing to get off our asses.

In that context, Chomsky says that detailing the crimes of communists (and ignoring our own crimes) is about deflecting attention and keeping us on our asses. Chomsky then… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 8:13 AM on May 20, 2015

Minority Reporting your comments section
Huh: "trolls with more cultural capital adopt strategies of disruption that allow them to persist longer and do more damage."

That would explain the failure modes that Mefites still sometimes display.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 4:01 AM on May 8, 2015
Thinking about this some more, I can't help wondering if all the algorithm does is determine the criteria moderators are using to ban people. So it's not necessarily the case that the people being banned are trolls, just that in the average community there's a list of behaviors that throw up red flags and get you booted.

This list of behaviors is pretty generic (thus the high false positive rate) and it doesn't speak to intention: it's a prediction about who has become… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 4:44 AM on May 8, 2015
posted by A Thousand Baited Hooks

Your presence in this thread alone is eponysterical.

They trained their algorithm at Breitbart and CNN: has anyone ever actually visited those comment sections? I'm not brave enough. It seems possible that their definition of a troll is exactly what we'd think of as informed discussion, especially Breitbart which is basically an entire site devoted to conservative political spin and provocative reporting.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 4:56 AM on May 8, 2015
Isn't it just obvious that a troll in the original sense of an insincere pot-stirrer is going to avoid algorithmic detection?

If there was something specific that looked like, it wouldn't work. In many ways the "concern troll" is axiomatic: someone who pretends to care even more and is just raising a potential problem for consideration. Sincerity is pretty easy to fake (that's what marketing is) and on the internet doubly so.

But since… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 7:20 AM on May 8, 2015
It's the "invariant essence" that worries me. If there's a set of behaviors that get you banned regardless of content, that doesn't make that behavior trolling, it just makes it disruptive ceteris paribus.

But what happens when the ceteris isn't paribus? What happens, say, when you add a sign-up fee and have strong moderators? Then it seems like the essence varies.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 6:20 AM on May 20, 2015

Generational thinking is just a benign form of bigotry
There's a lot of bad analysis that goes under the generational label. But there are also valid statistical generalizations to be made. For instance, there are clear unemployment and wealth differentials between the generations, and not unsurprisingly there are major partisan differences as well.

In conclusion, generations are a land of contrasts when p<0.05.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 10:45 AM on May 19, 2015

True and Not-So-True Detective
Vaughn is a great comedian. These brief glimpses aren't enough to make me see him as a serious actor, but if anything can do it, it's TD.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 4:36 AM on May 19, 2015

Sam Harris and Noam Chomsky - An Unpleasant and Fruitless Encounter
There's no way this post is going to stand with all this editorializing, even though you're absolutely right.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 8:15 AM on May 18, 2015

Will the real Bitcoin creator please stand up?
Not enough attention is given to the possibility of group agency here.

Three people invent some software and attribute it to a fourth, fictional person. What's so hard to believe about that? I mean, there are five of us commenting here under the name "anotherpanacea" and it seems to work just fine.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 6:38 PM on May 16, 2015

“You can’t rape someone who’s gay."
I have spent much of the last two years dealing with Maryland's efforts to come into compliance with PREA.

It is a law aimed at an incredibly important goal, but as far as I can tell it has been largely watered down by the bureaucratic process.

Early on, I was told by one PREA trainer that the purpose of the law was to protect corrections officers from false charges of sexual assult (in the same prison system where female officers have had… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 7:55 AM on May 14, 2015
it would be a good idea even if it had no net positive effect on the problem of rape in prison.

I'm really tempted by this idea. Here's my worry: what if allowing consensual sex increased the rates of rape, exploitation, and prostitution in prisons? That is: by making the policy "consensual sex is allowed" it seems like there would be ample room for lots of things to occur that are nominally but not actually consensual.… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 10:29 AM on May 14, 2015
I feel like, couldn't rooms be designed to offer both communication between cells and private bunks for actual sleeping?

So I think we should drop the solitary confinement angle here; frankly, it's like the first thought of everyone who's ever been confronted by the reality of prison, and I had it once too, but the evidence (pdf) is that it's torture of the worst and most dehumanizing sort, that solitary can utterly destroy a human being without any… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 1:22 PM on May 14, 2015
I see. I don't know anyone who opposes that sort of arrangement but the legislators and voters who pay for prison construction and like to keep occupancy in the 150% range.

As you say that wouldn't address the problem of sexual assault: I'm not sure that many sexual assaults are perpetrated by cell mates.

Given the timeline on new prison construction and the real hope that our incarceration rates might decrease over the next decade, I could… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 2:28 PM on May 14, 2015

1, 2, 3, 7, 9, definitely not 11, 18 but not 25, hell no to 26 or 33
I cannot believe this is the same website that published pictures of Aristotle being ridden like a horse.

I guess I always thought Mallory Ortberg was a pseudonymous group author, and that everyone over there sort of pitched in.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 4:36 AM on May 13, 2015
He is probably right but he's performatively contradicting himself. If he's really right, he shouldn't have written the piece.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 5:39 AM on May 14, 2015

30 years ago, the only police aerial bombing on US soil left 11 people dead
I think you lose the right to call people crazy sociopaths when you start bombing them. At that point, you reset your definitions for comparison to the crazy people dropping bombs.

Like, I think running a marathon is kind of crazy, but only compared to a 5k. Compared to 100 mile ultramarathons, regular marathons are pretty sane. (Only in this case lots of innocent people died and lost their homes.)
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 3:42 PM on May 13, 2015

How to find deserving Hugo candidates?
So at the end of the last thread we had the beginning of a discussion about whether slates could be avoided next year. I posited that they could not, and that non-puppies should therefore consider slate voting as well.

If this year is any indication, the puppies are having a pretty outsized impact given that they represent a voting block of only 15% of the nominators. So if some of the magazines, authors, or websites who have the most stake in these issues put forward a… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 2:23 PM on May 4, 2015
I don't have the link, but someone did the numbers and it looked like the puppies dominated with only @300 of the @2000 nominators.

Even if you had five different non-puppy slates you'd still get more than 300 for some of them. And there would be slate-splitting and slate overlaps so this would effectively produce nominations for the ten or fifteen widely lauded books, stories, etc that most people think should be contenders.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 4:50 PM on May 4, 2015
The weird thing about the age difference absurdities is that these are usually novels written by women! Read primarily by women! And the message they're consuming, gladly, with joy at the way the genre is somehow finally making room for women is.... "women have nothing to offer but youth and beauty."

I get that a sick misogynistic society creates sick misogynistic fantasies in its inhabitants. But this seems like a particularly on-the-nose example of it, and I… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 5:41 AM on May 6, 2015
I don't think you've thought very hard about this.

I mean, maybe you're right. But you go on to say exactly what I said before the part you quoted, so apparently we're in the same thoughtless boat.

corb I think captures the positive spin of the fantasy but the misogynistic subtext is still there: also asperity's idea that a protagonist should be an empty vessel for the fantasies of the reader to inhabit, so can't have too… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 1:03 PM on May 6, 2015
Just finished Goblin Emperor! OMG it's so good and satisfying, though I can't really decide why because it's comparatively light. Along with the Leckie, it's a clear candidate for best novel whether or not the puppies messed with the nomination process.

So, umm, I hope No Award doesn't win Best Novel.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 8:53 AM on May 13, 2015

Freddie Gray protests: Governor of Maryland Declares State of Emergency
That's kind of an old article but what I like about it is that it's right. The reason it matters that it's old is that it's not something that defense attorneys have actually managed to get traction with. Apparently being right isn't good enough.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 8:13 PM on May 6, 2015
Also.. is it just me or is there a really creepy element of sexism totally suffusing the "she should recuse herself because her husband's career might be affected by the case" argument? If anyone can come up with a case where such an argument was levied against a man I'd be glad to have a look for comparison purposes..

Clarence Thomas and his wife's lobbying work is an interesting case for comparison on similar issues.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 11:19 AM on May 11, 2015

there will never be any more decent Marvel movies...there can’t be.
I refute thee thusly: Benedict Cumberbatch as Doctor Strange.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 7:41 PM on May 10, 2015

How private DNA data led Idaho cops on a wild goose chase
Yeah, the real key is that you have to find ways to discount this kind of testimony for juries without scientific training and with a serious cultural deference to forensic evidence from decades of magic CSI shows.

I don't think we should be very happy if that involves turning the court room into an intro stats class. Juries aren't as smart as the average college class and lots of college students fail stats.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 5:45 AM on May 3, 2015
In the UK at least judges have refused to allow basic statistical information about the base rate fallacy to be admitted as evidence.

I regularly teach the case of a woman who had two SIDS deaths: prosecutors argued that this was astronomically unlikely and so she must have murdered the children. In fact, there's about a 2/3 chance she didn't. (And she was eventually released after being convicted and spending three years in jail.)
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 8:06 AM on May 3, 2015
In the U.S., no prosecutor would ever undermine her case by avoiding possible statistical fallacies. (Look at the recent challenges to absurdly prejudicial PowerPoint slides.) Taking advantage of base rate errors is just "being persuasive." You'd have to get a major set of appellate actions to discourage statistical chicanery, and even then....
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 8:31 AM on May 3, 2015
Could we assign probabilities to the various legal standards? Like "beyond a reasonable doubt" is 95%? Probable cause is 50%? Reasonable suspicion is 20%, etc?

In tort law the "preponderance of the evidence" standard maps pretty well to 50%, which is why I ask. I'm under the impression that US courts have actively resisted this kind of statistical evaluation, and that this leads to some interesting possible Dutch Book problems.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 11:32 AM on May 4, 2015

2015 Hugo Nominees Announced
Over? It's not over until we decide it isn't! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

Relatedly, I expect that we are seeing the beginning of the year-long Hugo campaign, if there is to be one, with major bloggers and reviewers producing slates of their own.

The puppies won't go away but slate voting in the nomination phase will become an accepted practice and their influence will become negligible.… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 4:50 AM on May 4, 2015
Disagree. Torgensen and VD are all in, of course, but the slate itself is collapsing.

Their slate is collapsing, true. But they'll do it again anyway. And the rest of us will have to decide whether to accept their nominations or collaborate to oppose their efforts.

It'll come down to this: either vote for a slate or accept another year of No Awards and similar nonsense. I already outsource a lot of my reading selections to… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 6:11 AM on May 4, 2015
The cost to him is basically zero, so why not do it again next year?

Yeah. And all this year's troll members can vote again, so they'll be a pretty powerful force if they want to be.

every one still on the RP slate has basically ensure they will never ever win a Hugo, ever

This is obviously false. It's notable that the puppies did have some standard picks in their slates. It's… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 6:41 AM on May 4, 2015
Max Gladstone's Full Fathom Five

Yeah! I expected this to be genre schlock but it's really quite cool, has a transgender protagonist, questions about the philosophy of punishment and law, and is basically a long meditation on the problems of the finance industry. (And I learned about it from io9!)
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 7:26 AM on May 4, 2015
You have no idea how long fannish memory is.

Yeah, we're going to long remember the treachery of Christopher Nolan and James Gunn, I'm sure. Game of Thrones will NEVER WIN ANYTHING EVER AGAIN.

It seems much more likely that the focus will be where it ought to be, on Torgenson, Day, Wright, and a few other people who would never have been in the running without the puppies and are unlikely to produce award-worthy work in the… [more]
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 7:45 AM on May 4, 2015
If you're still making lists of 2014 novels, I'd add Claire North's The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August, even though I haven't quite finished yet. It's exploring a pretty novel premise and quite well written.
posted to MetaFilter by anotherpanacea at 8:22 AM on May 4, 2015

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