"Each vagina is different, each is like a snowflake, unique in its own way."
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"Each vagina is different, each is like a snowflake, unique in its own way." More about explicit "edu-tainer" and "sexpert" Maria Falzone's "Sex Rules!" performance at Dartmouth College. Includes excerpts from performances there and elsewhere (including the above) and the College's official reponse.
Only touched upon in the article is the huge response to the event from Dartmouth's alumni, including a heated discussion at a College-sponsored alumni event yesterday in LA.
The original article and MeFi thread.
Only touched upon in the article is the huge response to the event from Dartmouth's alumni, including a heated discussion at a College-sponsored alumni event yesterday in LA.
The original article and MeFi thread.
Happiness Is A Warm Vagina--didn't you ever listen to the White Album, man?
posted by y2karl at 7:48 PM on November 8, 2001
posted by y2karl at 7:48 PM on November 8, 2001
vaginas...
...are they different enough to merit going on and on about them?
::scoffs:: i believe so...
(sorry, had to.)
posted by lotsofno at 8:08 PM on November 8, 2001
...are they different enough to merit going on and on about them?
::scoffs:: i believe so...
(sorry, had to.)
posted by lotsofno at 8:08 PM on November 8, 2001
Wouldn't have hurt to post this as a comment in the original thread.
posted by tomorama at 8:19 PM on November 8, 2001
posted by tomorama at 8:19 PM on November 8, 2001
::scoffs:: i believe so...
Ah, there speaks the voice of inexperience
...or teenage testosterone--oops, redundancy alert!
posted by y2karl at 8:42 PM on November 8, 2001
Ah, there speaks the voice of inexperience
...or teenage testosterone--oops, redundancy alert!
posted by y2karl at 8:42 PM on November 8, 2001
For some reason this reminds me of the SNL skit where Charlton Heston records the audio book version of Madona's SEX book.
"I like myyyy VAGINA"
posted by SweetJesus at 8:50 PM on November 8, 2001
"I like myyyy VAGINA"
posted by SweetJesus at 8:50 PM on November 8, 2001
I don't get it - I'm with gdog. This is a continuing situation that's evolved. Blogs in general don't handle that situation well; the original thread's been dead for a few days. Nobody's reading it; or commenting about it any more. Gdog realized this, and provided a link to the thread, which was the correct thing to do.
If tomorama is saying that he's still reading the old thread but not the front page, I'm curious why.
posted by swell at 9:03 PM on November 8, 2001
If tomorama is saying that he's still reading the old thread but not the front page, I'm curious why.
posted by swell at 9:03 PM on November 8, 2001
Your great interest in snatch is highly appreciated,but I have found one may, eventually, spend too much time at the Y.....
posted by Mack Twain at 9:44 PM on November 8, 2001
posted by Mack Twain at 9:44 PM on November 8, 2001
I said it before and I'm parroting myself; this article is from "The Dartmouth Review" and it is the non-Dartmouth-affiliated conservative newspaper that got into trouble in the '90s for publishing parts of Mein Kampf in the header of their paper, including many other complete idiocies.
The official college newspaper is The Dartmouth. Please do us all a favor and ignore the Review.
posted by gen at 9:54 PM on November 8, 2001
The official college newspaper is The Dartmouth. Please do us all a favor and ignore the Review.
posted by gen at 9:54 PM on November 8, 2001
Gen:
The only person who got in trouble for the 2 lines from mein kampf published in the Dartmouth Review 10 years ago was the ex-editor who was arrested afterwards for sabotaging that issue (which, I might add, was recalled and republished sans the quote). Read about it in William Buckley's "In Search of Antisemitism." Perhaps also note that much of the masthead at the time (and now, in fact) was Jewish. Note as well that the paper has been rabidly Zionist since its founding.
Yes, The Dartmouth Review is unaffiliated with the College. As the official paper persists in publishing thinly or not-at-all reworded press releases from the College, I am not sure that this is a bad thing.
posted by gdog at 11:02 PM on November 8, 2001
The only person who got in trouble for the 2 lines from mein kampf published in the Dartmouth Review 10 years ago was the ex-editor who was arrested afterwards for sabotaging that issue (which, I might add, was recalled and republished sans the quote). Read about it in William Buckley's "In Search of Antisemitism." Perhaps also note that much of the masthead at the time (and now, in fact) was Jewish. Note as well that the paper has been rabidly Zionist since its founding.
Yes, The Dartmouth Review is unaffiliated with the College. As the official paper persists in publishing thinly or not-at-all reworded press releases from the College, I am not sure that this is a bad thing.
posted by gdog at 11:02 PM on November 8, 2001
It's fine to disagree with the Review. They exaggerate. They are often juvenile. But it's ridiculous to judge the content of an article written by current undergrads based on an alleged incident that happened 10 years ago -- when the author of the article was in grade school.
this article is from "The Dartmouth Review" and it is the non-Dartmouth-affiliated conservative newspaper
Please. Just because it isn't affiliated with the school doesn't mean it's worthless. Would you be happy if all the newspapers in the country were funded and controlled by the Bush Administration?
side note: when I was a freshman at Dartmouth, they did not have a mandatory sex-ed program. However, that fall, the film society's theme was "Sex in the Cinema." 20 films on the big screen for $10. Plenty of graphic sex for the youngsters!
posted by jewishbuddha at 12:16 AM on November 9, 2001
this article is from "The Dartmouth Review" and it is the non-Dartmouth-affiliated conservative newspaper
Please. Just because it isn't affiliated with the school doesn't mean it's worthless. Would you be happy if all the newspapers in the country were funded and controlled by the Bush Administration?
side note: when I was a freshman at Dartmouth, they did not have a mandatory sex-ed program. However, that fall, the film society's theme was "Sex in the Cinema." 20 films on the big screen for $10. Plenty of graphic sex for the youngsters!
posted by jewishbuddha at 12:16 AM on November 9, 2001
Please do us all a favor and ignore the Review.
Occasionally, independent papers on campus cover something worthwhile the other papers have missed. I think this is a great example, and I hope to see more links in the future regarding middle-aged women teaching incoming freshmen to wrap their asses in Saran Wrap while undertaking anal sex. (Even if I can't figure out the logistics of the practice.)
posted by rcade at 6:11 AM on November 9, 2001
Occasionally, independent papers on campus cover something worthwhile the other papers have missed. I think this is a great example, and I hope to see more links in the future regarding middle-aged women teaching incoming freshmen to wrap their asses in Saran Wrap while undertaking anal sex. (Even if I can't figure out the logistics of the practice.)
posted by rcade at 6:11 AM on November 9, 2001
1. Falzone speaks on 'great and safer sex'--a 1998 story from The Dartmouth about the "Sex Rules" program. "Falzone said the most important thing is to be responsible about sex. The first way to accomplish this, she said, is through masturbation. She said it is the safest way both sexually and emotionally, calling it the 'greatest form of self-love.' Falzone said it is crucial for one to know his or her own body, needs and desires." Sounds sensible to me.
2. Both scathingly contemptuous stories from The Dartmouth Review were written by men. How much of their discomfort with Falzone resulted from having to listen to a woman talk about sex? A "middle-aged woman"?
posted by Carol Anne at 6:35 AM on November 9, 2001
2. Both scathingly contemptuous stories from The Dartmouth Review were written by men. How much of their discomfort with Falzone resulted from having to listen to a woman talk about sex? A "middle-aged woman"?
posted by Carol Anne at 6:35 AM on November 9, 2001
Certainly there is a subtext there - I don't think it's coincidental that the writer mentions the (female) staff in charge of the event by name, and it's interesting that the quotes in the sidebar largely refer to women.
The feeling I get is not so much that they have 'discomfort ... from having to listen to a woman talk about sex" (though I'm sure they do), but that the mandatory lecture is primarily gynocentric - look at the quotes they've chosen for the sidebar.
My guess is that it is part of an ongoing campaign against Ms Remy or Ms Zimmerman or some notion of a "Women's Elite".
Of course I could be spotting a conspiracy theory where there is none.
posted by Grangousier at 8:02 AM on November 9, 2001
The feeling I get is not so much that they have 'discomfort ... from having to listen to a woman talk about sex" (though I'm sure they do), but that the mandatory lecture is primarily gynocentric - look at the quotes they've chosen for the sidebar.
My guess is that it is part of an ongoing campaign against Ms Remy or Ms Zimmerman or some notion of a "Women's Elite".
Of course I could be spotting a conspiracy theory where there is none.
posted by Grangousier at 8:02 AM on November 9, 2001
Ah, there speaks the voice of inexperience
...or teenage testosterone--oops, redundancy alert!
ah, i somehow missed that comment. i beg to differ.
posted by lotsofno at 11:29 AM on November 9, 2001
...or teenage testosterone--oops, redundancy alert!
ah, i somehow missed that comment. i beg to differ.
posted by lotsofno at 11:29 AM on November 9, 2001
Who in this day and age honestly needs counseling after hearing about anal sex? Or masturbation? Frank discussions about sex are no more harmful than having to read a front page post that is similar to one from a few days ago.
posted by Hildago at 10:24 PM on November 9, 2001
posted by Hildago at 10:24 PM on November 9, 2001
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