November 10, 2001
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Nude court appearance draws arrest, contempt citation, and mental health exam. Is justice blind?
Well, at least she didn't show up in a Star Trek uniform
posted by MrBaliHai at 7:06 PM on November 10, 2001
posted by MrBaliHai at 7:06 PM on November 10, 2001
"Is justice blind?" ---Apparently not.
posted by realjanetkagan at 8:11 PM on November 10, 2001
posted by realjanetkagan at 8:11 PM on November 10, 2001
That's taking "filing your briefs in court" to an extreme.
posted by MAYORBOB at 9:33 PM on November 10, 2001
posted by MAYORBOB at 9:33 PM on November 10, 2001
That's taking "filing your briefs in court" to an extreme.
ugh! that's what I call capital punishment! X(
posted by mcsweetie at 10:05 PM on November 10, 2001
ugh! that's what I call capital punishment! X(
posted by mcsweetie at 10:05 PM on November 10, 2001
In a courtroom, any legitimate request from the judge on the bench is to be followed. The defendant was told to dress, she refused. Contempt it was, contempt it was meant to be. That she will have to face the consequence for her contempt is only fitting. If she didn't want to be punished, she should've put her clothes back on.
posted by Dreama at 3:29 AM on November 11, 2001
posted by Dreama at 3:29 AM on November 11, 2001
Like the attorney said, "Her actions did not cause the public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm."
How deeply ingrained is the nudity/boobs fetish/phobia in American society, do you think? I think this thing is an artifact of Victorian Christianity, which for whatever reason survives on despite cultural rejection of most of the rest of Victorian Christianity's principles. For eg, prior to the 1800s the idea of 'bathing suits' was unknown in British-descended societies. I expect it could be gone in a generation or two. Which could give us an entertaining old age, I suppose.
Ash.
posted by aeschenkarnos at 6:20 PM on November 11, 2001
How deeply ingrained is the nudity/boobs fetish/phobia in American society, do you think? I think this thing is an artifact of Victorian Christianity, which for whatever reason survives on despite cultural rejection of most of the rest of Victorian Christianity's principles. For eg, prior to the 1800s the idea of 'bathing suits' was unknown in British-descended societies. I expect it could be gone in a generation or two. Which could give us an entertaining old age, I suppose.
Ash.
posted by aeschenkarnos at 6:20 PM on November 11, 2001
And this took place in Bend, Oregon? Ya gotta love it.
posted by Down10 at 11:41 PM on November 11, 2001
posted by Down10 at 11:41 PM on November 11, 2001
Like the attorney said, "Her actions did not cause the public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm."
Or so says her attorney. How do we know that no one was inconvenienced, annoyed or alarmed by a woman clad only in tacky red cowboy boots, rolling through town like it was a giant nudist colony?
And I don't know that a lack of desire to see nude people on the streets is as attributable to some archaic Victorian horror of nudity as it is said. One can have a very healthy appreciation, even a fondness for the human body without having the desire to see naked strangers on their streets. Why is it so hard to believe that normal, well adjusted, even highly sexual people might wish to be able to choose who they see nude, or at least the situations in which they see naked people (i.e. a nude beach, not a city street)?
posted by Dreama at 5:16 AM on November 12, 2001
Or so says her attorney. How do we know that no one was inconvenienced, annoyed or alarmed by a woman clad only in tacky red cowboy boots, rolling through town like it was a giant nudist colony?
And I don't know that a lack of desire to see nude people on the streets is as attributable to some archaic Victorian horror of nudity as it is said. One can have a very healthy appreciation, even a fondness for the human body without having the desire to see naked strangers on their streets. Why is it so hard to believe that normal, well adjusted, even highly sexual people might wish to be able to choose who they see nude, or at least the situations in which they see naked people (i.e. a nude beach, not a city street)?
posted by Dreama at 5:16 AM on November 12, 2001
Dreama, the issue isn't your choice whether or not to see her, it's her choice to determine her own appearance. Many people's taste in clothes is just as (if not more) offensive than nudity, and nobody disputes anyone else's right to wear whatever they want.
Personally I find the whole dress code thing, in all its manifestations, more than a little stupid. If I care about my appearance, and want to present myself looking good, I will do so. Thus I wear clothes that look good on me. Others have the same choice.
We don't pre-emptively forbid people from wearing stretch pants, even though most people don't look good in them; why should we forbid people from going nude, even though most people don't look good nude?
Do you or don't you have the absolute right to make bad, stupid choices, so long as they don't affect anyone else?
Ash.
posted by aeschenkarnos at 3:37 PM on November 12, 2001
Personally I find the whole dress code thing, in all its manifestations, more than a little stupid. If I care about my appearance, and want to present myself looking good, I will do so. Thus I wear clothes that look good on me. Others have the same choice.
We don't pre-emptively forbid people from wearing stretch pants, even though most people don't look good in them; why should we forbid people from going nude, even though most people don't look good nude?
Do you or don't you have the absolute right to make bad, stupid choices, so long as they don't affect anyone else?
Ash.
posted by aeschenkarnos at 3:37 PM on November 12, 2001
Example in point: smoking. I don't want to see people smoke and I definitely don't want to smell it. But in the street, and most definitely in nightclubs etc, the right to smoke is held higher than the right not to breathe it. How is nudity different?
Ash.
posted by aeschenkarnos at 3:39 PM on November 12, 2001
Ash.
posted by aeschenkarnos at 3:39 PM on November 12, 2001
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