Jackson's explicit letters seized

November 25, 2003 5:49 PM

Rubba rubba. Michael Jackson's accuser, 12-year-old Los Angeles cancer survivor Gavin Arvizo, told police Jacko's pet name for him was Rubba, "because one of the games they used to play was called rubba rubba." Police seized many letters, poems, videotapes, and computer files from the Jackson's home and two other locations. The letters are very explicit and appear to be love letters from Michael to the boy. Jackson's legal team is said to be encouraging him to consider a plea bargain.
posted by johnnydark (47 comments total)

See specifically paragraph 12 of the "Declaration of J. Chandler" from 1993.
posted by johnnydark at 5:55 PM on November 25, 2003

Here comes the pain.
posted by dazed_one at 6:00 PM on November 25, 2003

Good job posting something we all read on major news sites a few days ago.

Outstanding work.

Top notch.
posted by xmutex at 6:02 PM on November 25, 2003

I just don't know.
posted by stonerose at 6:02 PM on November 25, 2003

*cries*
posted by matteo at 6:03 PM on November 25, 2003

still no WMD though? dang.
posted by mcsweetie at 6:04 PM on November 25, 2003

Michael who?
posted by konolia at 6:05 PM on November 25, 2003

This "Rubba," it vibrates?

(Had to be said.)

(Ok, maybe not.)
posted by tittergrrl at 6:07 PM on November 25, 2003

xmutex, I don't usually reply to anyone with a MiFi ID over 10,000, but you have really pissed me off, considering I was posting here back when you were playing Pokemon. You and many other 'filterites seem more concerned about whether or not something is "newsfilter" or a good FPP then actually talking and thinking about anything.

We used to say something was PC -- Politically Correct -- but now I think we can start using the term MFC -- Metafilterly-correct.
posted by johnnydark at 6:10 PM on November 25, 2003

xmutex, I don't usually reply to anyone with a MiFi ID over 10,000

Note to self: This dickhead can and should be completely ignored.

Note to everyone else: This dickhead can and should be completely ignored.
posted by Space Coyote at 6:15 PM on November 25, 2003

I
just don't
know
posted by elwoodwiles at 6:16 PM on November 25, 2003

I was kidding.
posted by johnnydark at 6:16 PM on November 25, 2003

I don't usually reply to anyone with a MiFi ID over 10,000

???

You and many other 'filterites seem more concerned about whether or not something is "newsfilter" or a good FPP then actually talking and thinking about anything.

actually, good posts are the most important thing about this site. and this is one hella bad post.

I was kidding.

thats awful convenient!
posted by mcsweetie at 6:18 PM on November 25, 2003

I was kidding about not replying to people who have really high MeFi IDs.

Not the rest.
posted by johnnydark at 6:19 PM on November 25, 2003

I don't think there is really anything to "think" about this.

It's just another new blue page where we can make child-toucher jokes about a pretty disturbed pop-star and discuss hearsay and "experts'" opinions on these rumors they hear.

I feel bad for Michael Jackson.
Not because I think he's necessarily innocent or guilty but because it's obvious even beyond these claims that the guy is on his last string.
I wonder if anyone ever told him "Michael. You are crazy. Stop destroying your body, stop being a child and grow up. I will help you."

I don't think anyone ever has.
posted by cinderful at 6:29 PM on November 25, 2003

The only thing lately I've read about the whole MJ thing that I found to be remotely interesting is this piece here by the morning news. It's the only truely humane reaction i've seen about this whole mess.
posted by atom128 at 6:35 PM on November 25, 2003

Errr yeah, you're right, we should go about discussing the important and poignant issue of Michael Jackson molesting kids.

My bad.

Back to Pokemon.
posted by xmutex at 6:37 PM on November 25, 2003

atom128, great link. Should have been on the front page instead of the telegraph story.
posted by tranquileye at 6:40 PM on November 25, 2003

It's the only truely humane reaction i've seen about this whole mess.
Lots of us had humane (and worried) reactions the first time this shit came out (when he paid the kid off); now it's just disgusting. Fool me once, shame on you--fool me twice (or more)....

We all grew up with him--from the Jackson 5 days to Off the Wall (THE sweet 16 party album the year everyone in my grade turned 16) to Thriller to.........freakishness and molesting young boys. It's sick and sad--I'd like to see him put in a mental hospital where he could maybe be helped.
posted by amberglow at 6:45 PM on November 25, 2003

xmutex <3's MJ. hehehe.
posted by poopy at 6:57 PM on November 25, 2003

Can you not hear the well-oiled machinery of the Great American Media Circus grinding to life over this story, just as it did over OJ, Arnold, Kobe, etc? Don't you see how mechanical it all it?

Can you not for once just step aside and let all the rumormongering, dark fantasy, finger-pointing, head-shaking, and manufactured tragedy of Yet Another Ugly Moment in American Culture pass you by?

No?

Well, failing that, do you really have to post to MetaFilter for every single lascivious detail that's made public in the course of this media circus?

Please retire to your nest, take your low user number and rubba yourself with it.
posted by scarabic at 7:03 PM on November 25, 2003

WHAT.
THE.
FUCK.
MIKE?
posted by keswick at 7:15 PM on November 25, 2003

Can you not for once just step aside and let all the rumormongering, dark fantasy, finger-pointing, head-shaking, and manufactured tragedy of Yet Another Ugly Moment in American Culture pass you by?

Well, failing that, do you really have to post to MetaFilter for every single lascivious detail that's made public in the course of this media circus?

jeez, scarabic, how insightful. i was just going to say the same thing about the innumerably mindnumbing bush/cheney/rumsfeld/etc. posts... then again, it's your party. carry on.
posted by poopy at 7:19 PM on November 25, 2003

according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation's sex offender search, there are 22 sex offenders living in my town, nearly all convicted of statutory rape or child molestation.
posted by mcsweetie at 7:21 PM on November 25, 2003

mcsweet, you should never take candy from strangers, and don't ever believe anyone who says your ma told them to pick you up from school, or that they want directions and you have to get into the car because they can't hear you, or that they have llamas or a whole amusement park or the elephant man's skeleton at their house--mmkay? ; >
posted by amberglow at 7:26 PM on November 25, 2003

dude!!! don't even joke like that because I was really kidnapped once!

no, I really was! I was like 12 or 13 at the time and at some whack christian getaway called "SuperWow*" or something like that, and the group I was with was standing outside of the van and I kinda wandered off for a bit and these three dudes came up to me and took me by the shoulders and lead me off saying, "come on this way COME ON." so they shut me in their van and they were about to leave when they got caught in the traffic congestion and actually tried to make small talk with me. a minute or two after that the youth director slid the door open with a slam and yanked me out and started cussing out my captors.

but anyways! I hope you aren't suggesting I'm a child because I'm a MAN BABY YEAH!

* make no mistake though, I've since abandoned the fold to become a fundamentalist sweetist.
posted by mcsweetie at 7:37 PM on November 25, 2003

He's a pedo. No big surprise there

Its the November sweeps

The media is as guilty of exploiting this boy as MJ

BTW, notice how B. Spears releases her albums during the sweeps so that the media can get their kiddie porn rating bumps.

If MJ's going to jail, are they really any better?
posted by Fupped Duck at 7:41 PM on November 25, 2003

no way mcsweet!!! really??? ooh, sorry--if you're serious : <
posted by amberglow at 7:48 PM on November 25, 2003

but what the hell kind of shitty supervision did they have at that thing?
posted by amberglow at 7:49 PM on November 25, 2003

Rubbafilter
posted by moonbird at 7:55 PM on November 25, 2003

well, the ratings jumped when the story broke, so we'll be seeing a lot more of it, unfortunately--it's not like there's a war going on or anything. *Warning: that horrible pic of him is in the link*
posted by amberglow at 7:58 PM on November 25, 2003

Last time I checked, Fupped Duck, Britney was 21 or so. No longer a minor by any definition. Explain to me how that qualifies as kiddie porn.
posted by keswick at 8:02 PM on November 25, 2003

posted by Keyser Soze at 8:29 PM on November 25, 2003

ugh..i had to turn off images : P
here's an antidote.
posted by amberglow at 8:32 PM on November 25, 2003

"I don't usually reply to anyone with a MiFi ID over 10,000"

Thats a super-philosophy johnnydark. That way you can keep posting and viewing metafilter without ever knowing any new people!

Jerk. Shoud've kept your mouth shut.
posted by Keyser Soze at 8:34 PM on November 25, 2003

Oh shit. haha! Guess I shouldve kept my mouth shut. :)
posted by Keyser Soze at 8:35 PM on November 25, 2003

OJ, Kobe, Now this. Why won't someone shoot The Media?
posted by delmoi at 8:35 PM on November 25, 2003

look at that darling face! How could he molest a kid? He looks like a deformed shell of a human being. This should be interesting for Mike. Who puts money on him being convicted?
posted by Keyser Soze at 8:39 PM on November 25, 2003

was there some reason that had to be a 700 x 500 87K+ image? was it because you are not spending your own bandwidth, but instead you are spending thesmokinggun.com's bandwidth? how did this entertain or inform us?
posted by quonsar at 8:40 PM on November 25, 2003

I expect that this will ultimately lead to Michael Jackson committing suicide. Unless he is remarkably well-insulated from the real world, the amount of hatred that will be directed toward him will be unbearable... whether or not he's actually guilty.
posted by five fresh fish at 8:47 PM on November 25, 2003

I want to spend your bandwidth.
posted by freebird at 8:49 PM on November 25, 2003

feel free.
posted by quonsar at 8:51 PM on November 25, 2003

"They are very explicit and intimate and show a degree of familiarity. Basically, they appear to be love letters from Michael to the boy."

That's quite vague. "a degree of familiarity"?

Unless he is remarkably well-insulated from the real world,

ha ha ha
posted by donth at 9:01 PM on November 25, 2003

If michael jackson absolutely did do this, would anyone reject to him being castrated? God im expecting someone to start harping about how his balls didnt do it, after all this is metafilter!
posted by Keyser Soze at 9:06 PM on November 25, 2003

castrating him wouldn't stop it, i don't think...it's his wiring.
posted by amberglow at 9:09 PM on November 25, 2003

how does one "reject to", anyway?
posted by quonsar at 9:10 PM on November 25, 2003

how about we get a fucking time machine, go back, and keep whatever evil event happened to jacko to cause him to be so screwed up? And I don't mean just the whole paddywacking thing.
posted by angry modem at 9:16 PM on November 25, 2003