What is scarier than a cloned dinosaur?
September 20, 2000 9:41 AM   Subscribe

What is scarier than a cloned dinosaur?
posted by thirteen (21 comments total)
 
Now this brings up some interesting points.

1). Since in Matthew it says "no one knows the time or the place" of the second coming, that means that the cloned Jesus cannot be actually Jesus.

2). Assuming that the blood, prepuce, etc are genuine, and the cloned Jesus isn't actually Jesus, that calls into question the role of genes in our identity.

3). Thus, if genes do not = actual human identity, then there should be no religious basis for opposition to cloning, stem cell research, etc.

I really hope that isn't a joke, although I'm pretty sure it is.
posted by norm at 10:32 AM on September 20, 2000


Genes don't equal human identity. We've already settled this one. Just bring up everyone's favourite pool of genetic research subjects: identical twins...

-Mars
posted by Mars Saxman at 11:58 AM on September 20, 2000


And the Lord said to his Angels, "Sendith in the Clones".
posted by Sal Amander at 12:23 PM on September 20, 2000


And lo, they shall be like unto each other. And they shall multiply.

If you ask me, it's a little Boys from Brazil. What else were they planning to do, have the surrogate mother give birth in a stable? Raise him as a carpenter? Among a people under imperial, non-native rule?
posted by dhartung at 12:41 PM on September 20, 2000


Don't worry. All the ethical questions on this matter have already been settled by a Star Trek episode.
posted by
lileks at 12:58 PM on September 20, 2000


two of 'em?
posted by hobbes at 1:45 PM on September 20, 2000


looks like banning trolling from a.f.u was all for naught.

urban legends listing

le "i think i'm a clone now" scour
posted by lescour at 2:01 PM on September 20, 2000


I think the Christians will be pretty surprised when they find out their Messiah was an overweight black woman.
posted by Doug at 3:13 PM on September 20, 2000


overweight black lesbian, is what I'm rooting for.
posted by Sapphireblue at 3:47 PM on September 20, 2000


Clone us Barabus!
posted by thirteen at 4:18 PM on September 20, 2000


In response to norm, I have often wondered if vegetarians would have a problem with eating cloned meat. I don't mean growing a whole animal with a face and everything, just a muscle. It is a neat run around the moral dilema, it would certainly get me past my guilty fretting.
posted by thirteen at 4:24 PM on September 20, 2000


It's all been done before... PLIF: Mar 14/97
posted by Bane at 5:17 PM on September 20, 2000


to answer the veggie question:

I wouldn't eat it. presumably it would still take more energy and natural resources to produce a plateful of cloned meat than it would to produce a plateful of right and veggies. whether or not cloning bits of animals has the moral high ground over killing whole animals, it isn't especially environmentally sound.
posted by rabi at 7:19 PM on September 20, 2000


Cloned meat would be an amazing advance! Think about it, it could probably eventually be made to be cheaper and more efficient than raising a whole animal, in which case many fewer animals would have to suffer (being killed, living their whole lives in a feedlot/barn/box too small to turn around in, etc).

And if you had a nice, clean, sterile laboratory meat-growing operation, presumably you wouldn't need to mess with antibiotics.

I'm not even a vegetarian, but I can see that this would be a good thing.

Oh yeah, and they cloned a prize bull, saw it on the tv news today. Looking for a link online...
posted by beth at 8:35 PM on September 20, 2000


Hmmm....

What if the meat were cloned from human genes?
posted by Steven Den Beste at 8:41 PM on September 20, 2000


What if the meat were cloned from human genes?

It would taste like chicken (I'm told....no honestly....).
posted by Markb at 12:56 AM on September 21, 2000


"Cloned meat is people!"Uh, never mind. Long day.
posted by jess at 12:58 AM on September 21, 2000


"You look a little shy; let me introduce you to that leg of mutton," said the Red Queen: "Alice - Mutton; Mutton - Alice."
posted by
Aaaugh! at 4:22 AM on September 21, 2000


I think topic drift is the greatest! If cloned meat is not the meat of choice, perhaps nano-meat can take it's place on vegetarians plates. I love the taste, and I hate the killing. My wife and I are planning to move to a remote location in the next few years, and it has been my plan to not eat meat unless I kill it myself. I think it had been bad for us as a race to be removed from the process, or at the least dishonest. I don't think I could do it very often, if at all, and maybe that would not be so bad. I would have no problem throwing some recompiled atoms on the Bar-b-q, and will be struck dumb if anybody else would either.
posted by thirteen at 9:17 AM on September 21, 2000


*sigh* No, Markb, human flesh does not taste like chicken. It tastes like bitter pork. That's right, you are the other other white meat.
posted by harmful at 9:39 AM on September 21, 2000


I taste like chicken.
posted by daveadams at 8:49 AM on September 25, 2000


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