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Any idea who first thought of the upside-down A for "for all" ∀ and the backwards E for "exists" ∃ ?
posted by handee at 6:53 AM on July 26, 2006
posted by handee at 6:53 AM on July 26, 2006
I'm naturally apprehensive towards a site discussing the etymology of, well, anything when they can't even spell etymology correctly...
Ethymology of Symbols, indeed.
Other than that, cool!
posted by slimepuppy at 6:58 AM on July 26, 2006 [1 favorite]
Ethymology of Symbols, indeed.
Other than that, cool!
posted by slimepuppy at 6:58 AM on July 26, 2006 [1 favorite]
Oh thank goodness, I thought you stubbed your toe this morning.
posted by phyrewerx at 7:08 AM on July 26, 2006
posted by phyrewerx at 7:08 AM on July 26, 2006
handee:
The backwards E was first used by Peano in 1897. The upside-down A was invented by Gentzen in 1935. ^
posted by CrunchyFrog at 7:14 AM on July 26, 2006
The backwards E was first used by Peano in 1897. The upside-down A was invented by Gentzen in 1935. ^
posted by CrunchyFrog at 7:14 AM on July 26, 2006
This new Wikipedia notation just keeps getting more and more confusing...
posted by hermitosis at 7:18 AM on July 26, 2006
posted by hermitosis at 7:18 AM on July 26, 2006
This is bizarre, I was thinking of doing an FPP on punctuation and symbols and things.
Wikipedia says the section sign (§) has some very wide-ranging uses:
* symbol of justice in Poland
* symbol of currency in the Sims
* symbol of classification in biology
* symbol to warn of snakes in the Kalahari desert because to read the word 'snake' is very bad luck
Hmm, I can name a movie that might have to be substantially recut before it reaches Botswana.
posted by randomination at 7:25 AM on July 26, 2006
Wikipedia says the section sign (§) has some very wide-ranging uses:
* symbol of justice in Poland
* symbol of currency in the Sims
* symbol of classification in biology
* symbol to warn of snakes in the Kalahari desert because to read the word 'snake' is very bad luck
Hmm, I can name a movie that might have to be substantially recut before it reaches Botswana.
posted by randomination at 7:25 AM on July 26, 2006
* symbol to warn of snakes in the Kalahari desert because to read the word 'snake' is very bad luck
Hmm, I can name a movie that might have to be substantially recut before it reaches Botswana.
"Get these motherfucking § off my motherfucking plane!"
posted by Godbert at 7:26 AM on July 26, 2006
Hmm, I can name a movie that might have to be substantially recut before it reaches Botswana.
"Get these motherfucking § off my motherfucking plane!"
posted by Godbert at 7:26 AM on July 26, 2006
<> ! * ' ' #
^ " ` $ $ -
! * = @ $ _
% * <> ~ # 4
& [ ] . . /
| { , , system halted
posted by splice at 7:38 AM on July 26, 2006
^ " ` $ $ -
! * = @ $ _
% * <> ~ # 4
& [ ] . . /
| { , , system halted
posted by splice at 7:38 AM on July 26, 2006
!
posted by octothorpe at 7:39 AM on July 26, 2006
posted by octothorpe at 7:39 AM on July 26, 2006
Is this where we start another pointless anti-caret pile-on?
posted by sourwookie at 7:41 AM on July 26, 2006
posted by sourwookie at 7:41 AM on July 26, 2006
<> ! * ' ' #
Waka waka bang splat tick tick hash,
^ " ` $ $ -
Caret quote back-tick dollar dollar dash,
! * = @ $ _
Bang splat equal at dollar under-score,
% * <> ~ # 4
Percent splat waka waka tilde number four,
& [ ] . . /
Ampersand bracket bracket dot dot slash,
| { , , SYSTEM HALTED
Vertical-bar curly-bracket comma comma CRASH.
posted by jewzilla at 7:43 AM on July 26, 2006 [19 favorites]
Waka waka bang splat tick tick hash,
^ " ` $ $ -
Caret quote back-tick dollar dollar dash,
! * = @ $ _
Bang splat equal at dollar under-score,
% * <> ~ # 4
Percent splat waka waka tilde number four,
& [ ] . . /
Ampersand bracket bracket dot dot slash,
| { , , SYSTEM HALTED
Vertical-bar curly-bracket comma comma CRASH.
posted by jewzilla at 7:43 AM on July 26, 2006 [19 favorites]
The final link is cut short halfway through multiplication. I'm slightly ashamed to say I was enjoying that enormously.
#:(
posted by NinjaTadpole at 7:51 AM on July 26, 2006
#:(
posted by NinjaTadpole at 7:51 AM on July 26, 2006
I find "and per se and" to be wickedly funny. Any truth to the statement that the ampersand used to be the unofficial 27th letter of the alphabet? Wikipedia isn't sure.
posted by unknowncommand at 7:54 AM on July 26, 2006
posted by unknowncommand at 7:54 AM on July 26, 2006
Is Ethymology a legitimate alternate spelling of Etymology? Wiki has an entry with a redirect as does Columbia Encyclopedia.
posted by yeti at 8:11 AM on July 26, 2006
posted by yeti at 8:11 AM on July 26, 2006
I'm naturally apprehensive towards a site discussing the etymology of, well, anything when they can't even spell etymology correctly...
Ethymology of Symbols, indeed.
Other than that, cool!
The online dictionary I just used just redirected Ethymology to etymology. I don't know if that means the dictionary thinks the H is a typo or if ethymology is just used much less often.
posted by QuarterlyProphet at 8:14 AM on July 26, 2006
Ethymology of Symbols, indeed.
Other than that, cool!
The online dictionary I just used just redirected Ethymology to etymology. I don't know if that means the dictionary thinks the H is a typo or if ethymology is just used much less often.
posted by QuarterlyProphet at 8:14 AM on July 26, 2006
...to read the word 'snake' is very bad luck
Oh, great... tell us after we've read it! Thanks, randomination!
posted by squirrel at 8:21 AM on July 26, 2006
Oh, great... tell us after we've read it! Thanks, randomination!
posted by squirrel at 8:21 AM on July 26, 2006
Sink, trap, potion, demon, gem.
posted by hoverboards don't work on water at 8:23 AM on July 26, 2006 [1 favorite]
posted by hoverboards don't work on water at 8:23 AM on July 26, 2006 [1 favorite]
You know when I first saw this I thought it was a double, but now I see you wrote # ^ ! & * where I wrote ? , !, & @ ..
posted by ?! at 8:29 AM on July 26, 2006
posted by ?! at 8:29 AM on July 26, 2006
Does anyone else get confused by the ampersand and the treble clef?
Always used to screw me up.
posted by Dr No at 8:37 AM on July 26, 2006
Always used to screw me up.posted by Dr No at 8:37 AM on July 26, 2006
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posted by If I Had An Anus at 8:42 AM on July 26, 2006
The ampersand must be dirty, because f&#k is more obscene than f$@K or f*#k, but I was wondering if Google would say, "Did you mean: fuck?
posted by weapons-grade pandemonium at 8:46 AM on July 26, 2006
posted by weapons-grade pandemonium at 8:46 AM on July 26, 2006
Sink, trap, potion, demon, gem.
I thought the same thing, and I haven't played that game in years.
posted by mkhall at 9:07 AM on July 26, 2006
I thought the same thing, and I haven't played that game in years.
posted by mkhall at 9:07 AM on July 26, 2006
oh jewilla I think I love you now!!!
(and I thought I was bad for singing -in my head of course- she bang she bang every time I write a script)
posted by gminks at 9:12 AM on July 26, 2006
(and I thought I was bad for singing -in my head of course- she bang she bang every time I write a script)
posted by gminks at 9:12 AM on July 26, 2006
I've seen it written, but I've never actually heard anyone refer to the number sign (#) HOLY FUCK IT'S A SUPERSCRIPTED WIKIPEDIA LINK as an "octothorpe". I clearly don't hang around with as many ex-Bell Labs employees as I should.
posted by gramschmidt at 9:18 AM on July 26, 2006
posted by gramschmidt at 9:18 AM on July 26, 2006
Thanks so much, If I Had An Anus. That was a very fine seizure you induced in me.
posted by illiad at 9:36 AM on July 26, 2006
posted by illiad at 9:36 AM on July 26, 2006
::blink:: that's quite the series of tubes there, If.
Also I didn't know Firefox supported the blink tag.
posted by Foosnark at 9:38 AM on July 26, 2006
Also I didn't know Firefox supported the blink tag.
posted by Foosnark at 9:38 AM on July 26, 2006
Does anyone else get confused by the ampersand and the treble clef?
I can only draw ampersands if I think of them as backwards, slightly modified treble clef signs. Clearly I am a sad, sad person.
posted by booksandlibretti at 10:06 AM on July 26, 2006
I can only draw ampersands if I think of them as backwards, slightly modified treble clef signs. Clearly I am a sad, sad person.
posted by booksandlibretti at 10:06 AM on July 26, 2006
gminks: you won't feel so great after you've sung it in your head for the thousandth time. MAKE IT STOP!
posted by jewzilla at 10:35 AM on July 26, 2006
posted by jewzilla at 10:35 AM on July 26, 2006
I think I remember this one:
<> ! * ' ' #
^ " ` $ $ -
! * = @ $ _
% * <> ~ # 4
& [ ] . . /
| { , , SYSTEM HALTED
angle angle bang splat tic tic hash
caret quote backtick dollar dollar dash
bang splat equal at dollar underscore
squiggle splat lesser greater tilde number four
amp bracket bracket dot dot slash
pipe curly bracket comma comma crash.
posted by eriko at 10:48 AM on July 26, 2006
<> ! * ' ' #
^ " ` $ $ -
! * = @ $ _
% * <> ~ # 4
& [ ] . . /
| { , , SYSTEM HALTED
angle angle bang splat tic tic hash
caret quote backtick dollar dollar dash
bang splat equal at dollar underscore
squiggle splat lesser greater tilde number four
amp bracket bracket dot dot slash
pipe curly bracket comma comma crash.
posted by eriko at 10:48 AM on July 26, 2006
I've seen it written, but I've never actually heard anyone refer to the number sign (#) as an "octothorpe".
I feel personally insulted.
posted by octothorpe at 10:50 AM on July 26, 2006
I feel personally insulted.
posted by octothorpe at 10:50 AM on July 26, 2006
!!!
Saw them last month; they were an hour late, moody, and mindbendingly awful.
posted by kittyprecious at 11:17 AM on July 26, 2006
Saw them last month; they were an hour late, moody, and mindbendingly awful.
posted by kittyprecious at 11:17 AM on July 26, 2006
If you translate this thread into Nethack, it's the lyrics to "Monster Mash."
posted by kid ichorous at 11:17 AM on July 26, 2006 [1 favorite]
posted by kid ichorous at 11:17 AM on July 26, 2006 [1 favorite]
Is Ethymology a legitimate alternate spelling of Etymology?
No.
posted by languagehat at 12:35 PM on July 26, 2006 [1 favorite]
No.
posted by languagehat at 12:35 PM on July 26, 2006 [1 favorite]
I think I just ascended.
posted by loquacious at 12:35 PM on July 26, 2006
posted by loquacious at 12:35 PM on July 26, 2006
Does anyone else get confused by the ampersand and the treble clef?
I don't.
posted by delmoi at 4:12 PM on July 26, 2006
I don't.
posted by delmoi at 4:12 PM on July 26, 2006
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