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		<title>Osama bin Elvis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80371/Osama%2Dbin%2DElvis</link>
		<description> &lt;blockquote&gt;What is the logical consequence of noting the fact that the terrorist groups that make a difference on planet Earth&#8212;such as Hamas and Hezbollah, the PLO, Colombia&apos;s FARC&#8212;are extensions of, respectively, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Egypt, and Venezuela? It is the negation of the U.S. government&apos;s favorite axiom. It means that when George W. Bush spoke, and when Barack Obama speaks, of America being &quot;at war&quot; against &quot;extremism&quot; or &quot;extremists&quot; they are either being stupid or acting stupid to avoid dealing with the nasty fact that many governments wage indirect warfare.&lt;/blockquote&gt;International relations professor Angelo M. Codevilla argues that &lt;a href=&quot;http://spectator.org/archives/2009/03/13/osama-bin-elvis/print&quot;&gt;Osama bin Laden is not quite influential, not quite relevant, and probably dead&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;small&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://spectator.org/archives/2009/03/13/osama-bin-elvis/&quot;&gt;multipage version&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/small&gt;  </description>
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		<title>&quot;Unfortunately, Bin Laden was a really good hider.&quot;</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20430170/site/newsweek/page/0/"&gt;The Ongoing Hunt for Osama bin Laden&lt;/a&gt; is a comprehensive &lt;cite&gt;Newsweek&lt;/cite&gt; update on the search for Osama. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=438062&amp;in_page_id=1811&quot;&gt;Psychics can&apos;t find him.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21364526-2703,00.html&quot;&gt;Native American trackers can&apos;t find him.&lt;/a&gt; As the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.trenchant.org/daily/2004/9/3/&quot;&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Daily Show&lt;/cite&gt; noted&lt;/a&gt; in 2004, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.upi.com/International_Intelligence/Analysis/2007/07/16/analysis_more_rumors_of_bin_ladens_death/4982/&quot;&gt;dead&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/20070806_Karzai_says_bin_Laden_still_elusive.html&quot;&gt;alive&lt;/a&gt; terrorist mastermind is &quot;a really good hider.&quot;  </description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:43:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>It turns out it wasn&apos;t Joe Klein</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/other_stories/multipage/documents/03949394.asp"&gt;The anonymous author of Imperial Hubris&lt;/a&gt; has been revealed.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2004 09:40:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=345062"&gt;Bin Laden Unmasked?&lt;/a&gt; Robert Fisk &lt;small&gt;[ducks]&lt;/small&gt; reviews a &apos;215 page treasure trove&apos; written by an Al Jazeera journalist and published in Beirut.  It contains a &apos;wealth of information&apos; about the elusive billionaire and his followers.  He communicates over the Internet - no surprise there - but the book gives some clues as to the site used: &lt;b&gt;al-Nidaa&lt;/b&gt;, &apos;The Calling&apos;.  Can you find it?  The words of Mullah Omar are apparently distributed on site called the &apos;Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan&apos;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/afghanistan_ie/&quot;&gt;wild goose chase?&lt;/a&gt; You decide.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2002 07:39:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/791852.asp?cp1=1"&gt;How Al Qaeda Slipped Away&lt;/a&gt; &quot;American officials concede that there was a mass escape from Tora Bora&#8212;as well as a broader exodus by various routes into Pakistan and Iran&#8212;but insist that Al Qaeda now is crippled and too busy running to do much damage. &#8220;Perhaps we could have got them wholesale,&#8221; says one senior Defense official. &#8220;Now we&#8217;re doing it retail. In the end, it doesn&#8217;t make much difference. We&#8217;re getting them.&#8221;&quot; We might want to take care of this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whiterose.org/ginger/arch/week_2002_08_11.html#001137&quot;&gt;before we &quot;invade&quot; Iraq&lt;/a&gt;.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2002 02:17:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.nymag.com/page.cfm?page_id=6191"&gt;An excellent piece of media analysis &lt;/a&gt; by Michael Wolff in New York Magazine looking at the current summer-movie-plot version of Al Qaeda being artfully constructed by the NY Times ...


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Then, perhaps most disconcertingly, the overall narrative itself is patently a dumbed-down rehash. It&apos;s Cold War stuff. There is the ubiquitous and yet unknown and unknowable enemy. There&apos;s the international jihad, which, with only minor adjustments, replaces the international communist conspiracy. There&apos;s the sudden purported hegemony of the Muslim world -- a new Soviet-bloc-style ideological monolith. There is the otherworldly dedication of operatives bent on overthrowing the West. There are the cells. There is the myth of superhuman discipline. There is now, even, the developing Kremlinology of the next tier of men who replace Osama. And at the center of the story, of course, is the bomb. Whether in massive retaliatory form or as a dirty-bomb package, it serves the same effect.
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(link cribbed from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.com/news/752664.asp&quot;&gt;Altercation&lt;/a&gt;)  </description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2002 12:14:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/28/international/middleeast/28MILI.html"&gt;U.S. Blueprint to Topple Hussein Envisions Big Invasion Next Year&lt;/a&gt; &quot;The planning now anticipates the possible extensive use of bases for American forces in Turkey and Kuwait, with Qatar as the replacement for the sophisticated air operations center in Saudi Arabia, and with Oman and Bahrain playing important roles.

As to any war plan itself, the military expects to be asked for a more traditional approach than the unconventional campaign in Afghanistan. Such an approach would resemble the Persian Gulf war in style if not in size and would be fought with even more modern weapons and more dynamic tactics.&quot; There is no doubt Saddam is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reason.com/0203/fe.mw.the.shtml&quot;&gt;a bad guy&lt;/a&gt; but as his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=571&quot;&gt;poll numbers return to earthly levels&lt;/a&gt; how exactly can Bush justify sending off 70-250,000 American soldiers to fight (and die) in Iraq - while we will most likely still be engaged in Afghanistan (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A62618-2002Apr16.html&quot;&gt;looking for Osama&lt;/a&gt;) and ripping up Al Qaeda?  </description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2002 11:35:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.amconline.org/cgi-bin/release/viewnews.cgi?newsid1008995870,95728,"&gt;Here&apos;s what American Muslims think.&lt;/a&gt; What do you think?  They come off modestly better than they did in a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2001/1104/breaking2.htm&quot;&gt;poll&lt;/a&gt; conducted in England a month back.  But then, no embarrassing questions were asked this time.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2001 18:26:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1713000/1713326.stm"&gt;Bin Laden &apos;heard&apos; in Tora Bora&lt;/a&gt; Ah, yes, but were his lips moving in sync?  </description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2001 13:09:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/article/0,,9002-2001531181,00.html"&gt;A story that seems to be good news&lt;/a&gt; no matter what side of the &apos;war&apos; you&apos;re on.  The dragnet around Bin Laden is reported to be closing quickly, and currently stands, says the Sunday Times, at about 30 squares mile.  So, what happens next?   (via Plastic.com)  </description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:39:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.zmag.org/qatw.htm"&gt;More Q &amp; A on Terror and War&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;i&gt;&quot;A number of folks feel that current events -- particularly in the last few days -- have dramatically changed the logic and morality of what has been done in Afghanistan, calling into question much of the analysis and assessment that has been offered by critics of the war. Here are some of the questions we have been asked, and our brief replies.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:36:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/30/wtal30.xml"&gt;Taliban leader&apos;s ex-bodyguard says&lt;/a&gt; &lt;i&gt;&quot;We laughed when we heard the Americans asking Mullah Omar to hand over Osama bin Laden,&quot; he said. &quot;The Americans are crazy. It is Osama bin Laden who can hand over Mullah Omar - not the other way round.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  Take a look at this insider&apos;s personal account of the Taliban that some are so eager to apologize for in the name of cultural relativism.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2001 18:17:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20010927/aponline114908_000.htm"&gt;Taliban miraculously finds bin Laden!&lt;/a&gt; Afghan authorities have delivered a message to Osama bin Laden advising him of a decision by the country&apos;s clerics recommending that he leave Afghanistan voluntarily, the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan said Thursday. 
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2001 09:01:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://globalarchive.ft.com/globalarchive/article.html?id=010915001404"&gt;Russia not willing to help?&lt;/a&gt; &lt;i&gt;Meanwhile, Nikolai Kovalyov, the former head of the Russian FSB security service, warned the US that an attack on Afghanistan would fail to capture Osama bin Laden, the alleged mastermind of the atrocities, and would backfire on the US. &quot;In Afghanistan&apos;s mountainous terrain it takes a trainload of explosives to destroy three militants,&quot; he said. &quot;The chance of hitting bin Laden is zero.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2001 07:52:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://msnbc.com/news/190144.asp"&gt;Overview of CIA Support of bin Laden during Russia-Afghan War&lt;/a&gt; &#8220;[T]he CIA, concerned about the factionalism of Afghanistan ... found that Arab zealots who flocked to aid the Afghans were easier to &#8216;read&#8217; than the rivalry-ridden natives. While the Arab volunteers might well prove troublesome later, the agency reasoned, they at least were one-dimensionally anti-Soviet for now. So bin Laden, [and other] Islamic militants ... became the &#8216;reliable&#8217; partners of the CIA in its war against Moscow.&#8221;

Senator Orrin Hatch: &#8220;It was worth it ... Those were very important, pivotal matters that played an important role in the downfall of the Soviet Union.&#8221; 

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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:18:12 -0800</pubDate>
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