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		<title>Once, sure. Twice, Maybe. Three? Four!?!</title>
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		Much of the Middle East has been without reliable internet access recently due to the somewhat suspicious cutting of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jan/31/internet.blackout.asia?gusrc=rss&amp;feed=networkfront&quot;&gt;four&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://business.itbusinessnet.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=296098&quot;&gt;seperate&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.arabianbusiness.com/509954-third-undersea-cable-break-adds-to-web-woes?ln=en&quot;&gt;underwater&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.arabianbusiness.com/510132-internet-problems-continue-with-fourth-cable-break?ln=en&quot;&gt;cables&lt;/a&gt;, in seperate locations, within a few days of each other. The problem has been alleviated by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.arabianbusiness.com/510244-uae-unaffected-by-fourth-internet-cable-break-?ln=en&quot;&gt;re-routing of traffic&lt;/a&gt; until ships can reach the cables to repair them, a process which may take &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/02/05/financial/f141849S10.DTL&amp;feed=rss.technology&quot;&gt;several weeks&lt;/a&gt;. The problem was initially believed to be caused by anchors of passing ships, but that has since &lt;a href=&quot;http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/infotech/view_article.php?article_id=116622&quot;&gt;been retracted&lt;/a&gt; and deals have already been signed by several companies for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.itp.net/news/510118-telecom-egypt-signs-deal-for-new-undersea-cable&quot;&gt;new cables&lt;/a&gt;. Without knowledge of the complex infrastructure we can&#8217;t really ascertain how unlikely four separate cables having near simultaneous problems is &#8211; but many are treating it as suspicious considering recent news. 

Personally, I think things may have been blown out of proportion by the limited information we have, although it was believed that Iran had been isolated by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.internettrafficreport.com/history/267.htm &quot;&gt;a single disabled router&lt;/a&gt; this is plain &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renesys.com/blog/2008/02/attention_iran_is_not_disconne_1.shtml &quot;&gt;untrue &lt;/a&gt; and given the redundancies inherent in internet infrastructure it would be difficult if not impossible to fully cut off a country, but that is not to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.technologyreview.com/Infotech/20152/?a=f&quot;&gt;understate&lt;/a&gt; the consequences of these problems.

On a related note, Iran has recently &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.energybulletin.net/12125.html&quot;&gt;announced plans &lt;/a&gt; to move to trade oil with the Euro &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=41594&amp;sectionid=351020102&quot;&gt;rather than the US dollar&lt;/a&gt;, which will cause further devaluing of the greenback. Saddam Hussein was in the process of doing the same before the US invasion, a decision reversed by the occupying force.

Some are interpreting this as signs of an &#8220;info war&#8221; and while I don&#8217;t subscribe to the analysis, I find it interesting to consider the idea that in an age where &lt;a href=&quot;http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/22/technology/facebook_opinions/index.htm&quot;&gt;increasingly large amounts of money&lt;/a&gt;  can be attributed to companies based on estimated worth of intangible assets such as human networks and brand identities, the idea that you have to physically invade a country to do it economic damage is becoming outdated. 

There has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aljazeera.com/news/newsfull.php?newid=47915 &quot;&gt;been a &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ccc.nps.navy.mil/si/aug03/southAsia.asp&quot;&gt;documented&lt;/a&gt;   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/12/26/opinion/edlone.php&quot;&gt;shift &lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=5658   &quot;&gt; towards &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_war&quot;&gt;&#8220;proxy war&lt;/a&gt; and if one agrees on the existence of this trend then more abstract forms of conflict between powers seem to be a likely follow up.

If you do buy into the &#8220;information war&#8221; analysis there is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scmagazine.com/uk/news/article/777862/us-cyber-war-china-russia-says-new-yorker-magazine/&quot;&gt;ample&lt;/a&gt; fodder in the media, but more interestingly rumours of a theoretical &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N19368342.htm&quot;&gt;invasion plan&lt;/a&gt;  hint at a sophisticated attack not necessarily limited to military action. Indeed, Several large governments, such as the US, are spending increasing amounts of their military budget on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&amp;code=JES20080202&amp;articleId=7980 &quot;&gt;more abstract&lt;/a&gt;  forms of warfare
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB177/info_ops_roadmap.pdf&quot;&gt; (pdf)&lt;/a&gt;

Again, although I don&#8217;t subscribe to this view, I find it interesting to consider as a growing trend a shift from conventional war to proxy war to purely economic warfare as engaging in open hostilities with any country becomes increasingly risky from a game theory point of view.

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<category>middleeast</category>

<category>iran</category>

<category>US</category>

<category>infowar</category>

<category>network</category>

<category>access</category>

<category>economic</category>

<category>cables</category>

<category>egypt</category>

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		&lt;a href="http://www.pretext.com/mar98/features/story3.htm"&gt;Cables, Cables, Cables<br>&lt;/a&gt; I got to thinking last night about all those cables lying along the ocean floor. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pretext.com/mar98/features/story3.htm&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is a fascinating article on the history of telephonic cables; while &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.history-magazine.com/cable.html&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt; adds a bit more color, and several interesting paintings. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;As history shows, the demand for undersea network capacities will only increase. There&apos;s no such thing as too much cable.&quot;  </description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:45:21 -0800</pubDate>

<category>cables</category>

<category>ocean</category>

<category>technology</category>

<category>communication</category>

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		&lt;a href="http://www.sltrib.com/02122001/business/70699.htm"&gt;Superconducting power transmission cables&lt;/a&gt; In another thread, I mentioned that High-Tc power transmission cables were an example of an anticipated use of a technology which never came to fruition, and that the possible energy savings weren&apos;t worth the effort.  Oops.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:04:21 -0800</pubDate>

<category>energy</category>

<category>power</category>

<category>cables</category>

<category>powertransmission</category>

<category>superconductors</category>

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