If the election left you with an odd feeling
that something was not right in Florida, you're not alone.
Counting is profoundly political
The standards used to count (or not to count) Florida ballots is similar to the way the media reports on welfare reform success. It all depends on what you want to consider legitimate. (Happy birthday, Dad!)
"until every vote is coutned"
: A review of 10,600 previously uncounted ballots in Miami-Dade County showed George W. Bush gaining six more votes than Al Gore.
"They thought the election was over, the Republicans did. By the time it was over, our candidate had won the popular vote, and the only way they could win the election was to stop the voting in Florida". Give 'em hell Bill!
The latest iteration of the Great Chad Count of 2001 has been announced.
Some news organizations finally announce specifics about their planned gang-recount. They'll pay a nonprofit firm to "inventory" the votes, but each news organization will decide separately what the results mean. And one paper is holding an entirely separate count of its own. Inside.com summarizes: "When the laborious process is completed in 8 to 10 weeks, look for an orgy of tea-leaf discernment as any news organization willing to share in the costs will be free to spin and analyze the results in any way they please."
isn't enough, it seems. GOP targets Florida Supreme Court Justices...
Media recount boosts Gore in Hillsborough County, FL
I wish they would have recounted the whole state. Including the "undervotes."
Supreme Court II: Election Boogaloo.
Programs, getcher programs here! Thanks to the wonders of the Internet, you can get your grubby hands on the Bush
briefs right now. Fascinating reading. PDF files, of course.
Ain't gonna be no link here, but just a comment. Other deadlines may slip, but Florida has to settle things by Monday, December 18, or they don't get to participate in this election. Inside is an analysis of what happens then.
YASL: Yet another Salon link.
This could be the smoking gun. Or just smoke. Judgement?
ELECTION: Supremes remand decision to SCOFL.
He may have balls, but his *luck* is running low.
Turmoil for black voters in Florida on Election Day.
Just like in the bad old days. Political situation in Duval County, Fla., presented in a historical and social context. From the Village Voice
Trial By Combat
- Since it seems that neither counting the votes nor suing in court is going settle this election. I suggest taking a more direct and final approach. A fight to the death with broadswords.
And we were arguing about unclear ballot papers and the inability to follow written instructions? The Palm Beach canvassing board sends its counters home for Thanksgiving, comes back on Friday to find an extra few thousand votes to go through, and can't get its numbers in on time, so Ms Harris disregards them. Really, the people in charge need horse-whipping.
The Greenwood Position.
Partisan perhaps, but will Peggy Noonan's latest OpEd in the WSJ be a rallying cry for frustrated conservatives? She offers compelling arguments and solid suggestions for proactive redress. Talk amongst yourselves.
Why have I never seen this before today?
It turns out that the funniest mockery of the Florida ballot comes from BET; I find this much better than the oft-emailed wiggly-line ballot.
"Blame Florida! Blame Florida!
...with its stooges and its chad, the whole election's just gone mad..."
(Yeah, it's Salon: but Talbot has a point. Had this been outside the US, with Jimmy Carter and the other observers, the last few days' lunacy would have left no-one in any doubt that the state couldn't organise a pissup in a brewery.)
The end is near (again)
Looks like the one Florida county that was actually finding some Gore votes, Miami-Dade, is calling off the recount.
perfect headline: Chad Is a Country in Africa
Racism—Florida's Real Scandal
ELECTION: Live coverage of (what's left of) the Florida hearing.
I heard a solution I could live with: machine recount all the Florida ballots, and hand count anything that bounces. Came from the Bush camp, surprisingly enough.
ELECTION: Dan Bricklin thinks the ballots sucked, too.
Remember him? He helped write VisiCalc, and now runs Trellix?
I'm still wondering why no one's agitating to invalidate that election in PBC.
"The rules of this game were set by the people, underwritten by the people, financed or not."
Yet another opportunity for the British Observer
to put the US newspapers to shame, with an closely-argued, even-handed reflection on the fun in Florida. "The system, full of inefficiencies and coagulations, may stink, but it is also a system which belongs to the voters who now complain so shrilly about it."
More Fun With the Electoral College!
What's most disturbing isn't that it may be weeks or months before we actually know who won the election. I mean who cares? Neither of these guys represent you
. They both suck. The disturbing part is that it is actually possible the voices of hundreds of thousands of Florida voters might not be heard at all!
from the front page of CNN:
"....Circuit Judge...has scheduled a....hearing to issue a ruling on whether Florida Secretary of State....used her best discretion in deciding...." And my question for the legal experts here: how can a judge rule on matters of discretion? I thought Marbury vs. Madison dealt with a similar situation and that courts didn't decide political matters.
Neo Nazis holding pro-Bush rally
I think even Shrub would find this distasteful...
"My dad will fix it,"
said John "Jebby" Bush, son of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, after being caught "naked from the waist down" with his blonde companion in his car outside the Tallahassee Mall. The Media took a pass at this story once they found out the "Bush" in question was not the older brother George P. Bush.
The end... finally.
Today at five pm. Judge Lewis upholds the statutory deadline for election returns to be certified, despite media specualtion that he was initially inclined to extend it.
The "War on Drugs" cost Gore the election.
"In a stroke of divine justice, it turns out he [Gore] might have easily won Florida had it not been for the felony disenfranchisement laws that disproportionately strip the vote from African-American men," said Sanho Tree, director of the drug policy project of the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington. "Let's hope he ponders this long and hard while he waits for the recount."
Not very clever.
Florida's Secretary of State (the BBC reports her being described as "a bit of an airhead") manages to make her position look even more ridiculous. Anyone get the disturbing feeling that this may be resolved, not in the courts, but on the streets?
Yes, but will they have a Quisp Quorner?
Personally, this sounds pretty cool, but it's too dang bad they had to put it in the Mall of America. The higher-ups probably wanted
to build next to the other theme parks in Orlando, but i've heard this wild rumor that Florida's getting a bad rep these days...
What It Will Take to Get Elected ... in 1988.
Interesting historical piece basically looking at the chances of a Democratic victory in 1988. Makes for good reading -- now that we've all become political junkies -- while waiting for news from Florida.
Ok, lastly - Why not hand-recount this
NY Times report on voting problems in Palm Beach
"...some precinct workers said that they were under strict instructions to turn away people asking for voting assistance — mainly out of fear that it would slow down the voting. Louise Austin, a precinct worker in Boynton Beach, said she and other workers at her precinct turned away voters who besieged them with questions.
"People were coming up to me,"
Ms. Austin said, "and I had to follow the directive — `Don't help anyone. Don't talk to anyone.' "
"In other words, the odds are less than 1 in a billion that the original vote was a fair count."
OJR asked Dr. Lynn Miller, a professor of communications and expert on statistics at the USC Annenberg School to comment on what she found at CNN.com regarding the Florida Situation.
So the infamous ballot designer if feeling pretty low,
but is protesting outside her office the correct thing to do? "Noisy demonstrators protested on Thursday outside her office, demanding a new election. Several lawsuits have been filed, claiming the ballot was illegal under Florida law. LePore, who has been named in at least two lawsuits, has been devastated by the controversy, friends and acquaintances have said."
Signs, signs, everywhere signs
Modern Humorist takes a deeper look into the semiotic nightmare that is Palm Beach County.
are looking at us and giggling about our democratic process. It's rather enlightening to see what they think, provided the attitude the US newsmedia takes when other countries' elections appear "fixed", "inefficient," or "ineffective."
issued to Palm-Beach poll workers on Tuesday morning.
on a weblist noted: "According to http://www.tcpalm.com/_special/pres_returns.shtml
, David McReynolds, the Socialist candidate who had the hole beneath Gore's on the ballot, got no more than 36 votes in any county in Florida except Palm Beach, where he got 302. Seems questionable to me." So we've definitely got a problem with the ballot. Is it do over time yet?
CNN wants to know
shoud voters in disputed parts of Florida be allowed to vote again. Right now the tide is against it.
Linear regression analysis adds approximately 2700 votes to Gore's tally
-- "If Palm Beach county were like the other counties, according to estimates with Bush's votes Buchanan would have gotten around 600 votes in that county instead of 3407 votes he actually got. If we used Gore's votes to predict Buchanan's vote, we would have predicted Buchanan to get somewhere around 792 votes. ...[in any case] it can be claimed with a high degree of statistical confidence that the mistakes cost Gore somewhere between 2000 and 3000 votes. If Bush wins Florida by an amount smaller than this, such as 1700 votes, a strong claim can be made that the confusion over the unique ballot structure in Palm Beach cost Gore the presidency...."
Oops, Florida sent it again.
As if Florida elections couldn't get worse, Salon.com is reporting that some absentees received duplicate ballots.
Poor Florida. I highly doubt election problems are only happening in this state, it's just being put under the microscope. Every little problem is huge now.
Salon is doing a great job with interesting stories, too. Check'em out.
Official Florida Law on Paper Ballots.
I've been reading
from the pundits that the Florida ballot may be illegal because it "specifies that voters mark an X in the blank space to the right of the name of the candidate they want to vote for." (Quote from MSNBC)
However, the Florida statue I found says "opposite such candidate's name." Has anyone heard this argument, and if the Dems are actually gonna try it?