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		<title>Make-Believe Maverick</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain"&gt;Make-Believe Maverick.&lt;/a&gt; &quot;A closer look at the life and career of John McCain reveals a disturbing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/23316955/the_doubletalk_express/&quot;&gt;record&lt;/a&gt; of recklessness and dishonesty.&quot;  </description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:00:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>The Wars of John McCain</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200810/mccain"&gt;The Wars of John McCain.&lt;/a&gt; &quot;John McCain believes the Vietnam War was winnable. Now he argues that an Obama administration would accept defeat in Iraq, with grave costs to American honor and national security. Is McCain&#8217;s quest for victory a reflection of an antiquated pre-Vietnam mind-set? Or of a commitment to principles we abandon at our peril? Is there any war McCain thinks can&#8217;t be won?&quot;  </description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:30:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Nellis AFB Air Show.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67575/Nellis%2DAFB%2DAir%2DShow</link>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1b/"&gt;Wednesday morning plane pr0n.&lt;/a&gt;  </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:16:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>For young deserters, refuge is hard to find</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41514/For%2Dyoung%2Ddeserters%2Drefuge%2Dis%2Dhard%2Dto%2Dfind</link>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.boston.com/news/world/canada/articles/2005/04/24/for_young_deserters_refuge_is_hard_to_find/"&gt;For young deserters, refuge is hard to find&lt;/a&gt; It seemed like a drastic but simple solution: a step over the border into a country that had offered sanctuary before to Americans fleeing their homeland.

Instead, the growing band of US soldiers who have sought political refuge in Canada after defying orders to serve in Iraq have found themselves in a political limbo.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:53:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>On The New American Militarism - How Americans Are Seduced By War</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39801/On%2DThe%2DNew%2DAmerican%2DMilitarism%2DHow%2DAmericans%2DAre%2DSeduced%2DBy%2DWar</link>
		<description> &lt;small&gt;The argument I make in my book is that what I describe as the new American militarism arises as an unintended consequence of the reaction to the Vietnam War and more broadly, to the sixties... If some people think that the sixties constituted a revolution, that revolution produced a counterrevolution, launched by a variety of groups that had one thing in common: they saw revival of American military power, institutions, and values as the antidote to everything that in their minds had gone wrong. None of these groups &#8212; the neoconservatives, large numbers of Protestant evangelicals, politicians like Ronald Reagan, the so-called defense intellectuals, and the officer corps &#8212; set out saying, &#8220;Militarism is a good idea.&#8221; But I argue that this is what we&#8217;ve ended up with: a sense of what military power can do, a sort of deference to the military, and an attribution of virtue to the men and women who serve in uniform. Together this constitutes such a pernicious and distorted attitude toward military affairs that it qualifies as militarism. &lt;/small&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bu.edu/alumni/bostonia/2004/winter/war/&quot; title=&quot;How do you see us getting out of this World War IV mess? &apos;I think the beginning of wisdom is to rethink our attitudes and expectations with regard to military power and to come to something that&#8217;s more realistic and balanced &#8212; and I&#8217;d emphasize, more in harmony with our democracy. This outsourcing to a professional elite of our responsibility as citizens to defend the country, this penchant for interventionism in our world, this expectation that somehow the building up of ever-greater military power offers some sort of antidote to the problems that we face &#8212; these are wrong. We can&#8217;t come to the right answer until we first recognize that the accepted answer is defective &#8212; fundamentally defective.&apos;&quot;&gt;An interview with Andrew Bacevich&lt;/a&gt;, international relations professor and former Army colonel, and author of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/HistoryOther/MilitaryHistory/~~/cHI9MTAmcGY9MCZzcz1wdWJkYXRlLmFzYyZzZj1jb21pbmdzb29uJnNkPWFzYyZ2aWV3PXVzYSZjaT0wMTk1MTczMzg0&quot; title=&quot;In this provocative new book, Andrew Bacevich warns of a dangerous dual obsession that has taken hold of Americans, conservatives and liberals alike. It is a marriage of militarism and utopian ideology--of unprecedented military might wed to a blind faith in the universality of American values. This perilous union, Bacevich argues, commits Americans to a futile enterprise, turning the US into a crusader state with a self-proclaimed mission of driving history to its final destination: the world-wide embrace of the American way of life. This mindset invites endless war and the ever-deepening militarization of US policy. It promises not to perfect but to pervert American ideals and to accelerate the hollowing out of American democracy. As it alienates others, it will leave the United States increasingly isolated. It will end in bankruptcy, moral as well as economic, and in abject failure.&quot;&gt;The New American Militarism: How Americans Are Seduced by War&lt;/a&gt;--and here is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://antiwar.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&amp;title=The+New+American+Militarism+-+by+Paul+Craig+Roberts&amp;expire=&amp;urlID=12911826&amp;fb=Y&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fantiwar.com%2Froberts%2F%3Farticleid%3D4445&amp;partnerID=16&quot; title=&quot;The new American militarism has abandoned the Founding Fathers, deserted the Constitution, and unrestrained the executive. War is a first resort. Militarism is inconsistent with globalism and with American ideals. It will end in abject failure. The world is a vast place. The U.S. has demonstrated that it cannot impose its will on a tiny part known as Iraq. American realism may yet reassert itself, dispel the fog of delusion, cleanse the body politic of the Jacobin spirit, and lead the world by good example. But this happy outcome will require regime change in the U.S.&quot;&gt;review&lt;/a&gt;. Recently by Bacevich: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/commentary/la-oe-bacevich20feb20,1,6632062,print.story?coll=la-iraq-commentary&amp;ctrack=1&amp;cset=true&quot; title=&quot;In the early days of the insurgency, Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez vowed to use &apos;whatever combat power is necessary to win,&apos; displaying all the pugnacity of a George Patton or Stormin&apos; Norman Schwarzkopf... Senior commanders no longer make such bold promises. Nor do senior civilian officials in Washington. Indeed, today the Bush administration&apos;s aim is not to win but to relieve itself of responsibility for waging a war that it began but cannot finish. Debate in national security circles focuses not on deploying war-winning technologies or fielding innovative tactics that might turn the tide, but on how we can extricate ourselves before our overstretched forces suffer irreparable damage... The decisive victory promised by the war&apos;s advocates back in March 2003 &#8212; remember all the talk of &apos;shock and awe&apos;? &#8212; has now slipped beyond our grasp.&quot;&gt;We Aren&apos;t Fighting to Win Anymore - U.S. troops in Iraq are only trying to buy time&lt;/a&gt;.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:05:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>George Bushes&apos;s military record: critical analysis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35465/George%2DBushess%2Dmilitary%2Drecord%2Dcritical%2Danalysis</link>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/opinion/lechliter.pdf"&gt;George Bushes&apos;s Military record: a critical analysis&lt;/a&gt; This pdf file is about as definitive a look as we are likely to get on the Bush military record. Clearly most post4ers/readers of Metafilter do not support Bush, but having some clear-cut evidence at hand to use in arguments against  those who attack the Kerry militaryrecord, this will give the Bushites reason to move on to other topics  </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 10:19:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Selections from Parameters - US Army War College Quarterly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34517/Selections%2Dfrom%2DParameters%2DUS%2DArmy%2DWar%2DCollege%2DQuarterly</link>
		<description> &lt;a href=&quot;http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usawc/parameters/04summer/cassidy.htm&quot; title=&quot;More removed in time and context, the Indian Wars of the 19th century nonetheless provide some lessons for counterinsurgency. These lessons also demonstrate that the overarching fundamentals for fighting small wars are indeed timeless. With little preserved institutional memory and less codified doctrine for counterinsurgency, the late-19th-century US Army had to adapt on the fly to Indian tactics. A loose body of principles emerged from the Indian Wars: to ensure the close civil-military coordination of the pacification effort, to provide firm but fair and paternalistic governance, and to reform the economic and educational spheres. Good treatment of prisoners, attention to the Indians&#8217; grievances, and the avoidance of killing woman and children (learned by error) were also regarded as fundamental to any long-term solution. Additionally, General George Crook developed the tactic of inserting small teams from friendly Apache tribes into the sanctuaries of insurgent Apaches to neutralize them, to psychologically unhinge them, and to sap their will. This technique subsequently emerged in one form or another in the Philippines, during the Banana Wars, and during the Vietnam War.&quot;&gt;Back to the Street without Joy: Counterinsurgency Lessons from Vietnam and Other Small Wars&lt;/a&gt; &lt;small&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usawc/Parameters/04summer/cassidy.pdf&quot; title=&quot;Since the US Army and its coalition partners are currently prosecuting counter-guerrilla wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, it is useful to revisit the lessons from Vietnam and other counterinsurgencies because they are germane to the wars of today and tomorrow.&quot;&gt;(PDF format)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/small&gt; See also &lt;a href=&quot;http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usawc/parameters/02summer/record.htm&quot; title=&quot;In an eerily prescient book written right after the Gulf War, Robert Tucker and David Hendrickson warned against the lack of political follow-up. &apos;&apos;We have fastened upon a formula for going to war--in which American casualties are minimized and protracted engagements are avoided--that requires the massive use of American firepower and a speedy withdrawal from the scenes of destruction,&apos;&apos; they wrote in The Imperial Temptation: The New World Order and America&#8217;s Purpose. They continued: &apos;&apos;The formula is a very popular one, but it is not for that reason to be approved. It&#8217;s peculiar vice is that it enables us to go to war with far greater precipitancy than we otherwise might while simultaneously allowing us to walk away from the ruin we create without feeling a commensurate sense of responsibility. It creates an anarchy and calls it peace. In the name of order it wreaks havoc. It allows us to assume an imperial role without discharging the classic duties of imperial rule.&apos;&apos;&quot;&gt;Collapsed Countries, Casualty Dread, and the New American Way of War.&lt;/a&gt; See also &lt;a href=&quot;http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usawc/parameters/03autumn/flavin.htm&quot; title=&quot;It is always easier to get into a conflict than to get out of one. In 1956, for example, British Prime Minister Anthony Eden with French Premier Guy Mollet planned to unseat President Nasser of Egypt and reduce his influence in the region by a combined and coordinated British, French, and Israeli military operation. The French and British leadership conducted detailed, thorough planning to ensure that the costs and risks were reduced to an acceptable minimum. In violation of Clausewitz&#8217;s guidance above, however, the operation was launched without a good idea about termination and what the post-conflict situation would look like. What if landing on the Suez Canal at Port Said and Port Fuad did not force Nasser to step down? Were France and Britain then willing to march on Cairo? Would they have international support for such a move? If they seized Cairo, what would the new Egyptian government look like? Could it stay in power without keeping British and French troops in Egypt for years to come? Would the British and French have world opinion on their side for such an occupation? In the event, Israel launched the attack and British and French forces landed on the Suez Canal. But the operation did not turn out as planned. The United States and Soviets, along with world opinion, forced the British and French to withdraw. President Nasser, rather than being defeated, became the victor and the leader of the Arab cause, while the British and the French lost prestige and influence. How could rational decisionmakers get it so wrong?&quot;&gt;Planning for Conflict Termination and Post-Conflict Success&lt;/a&gt;. See also &lt;a href=&quot;http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usawc/parameters/03winter/chisholm.htm&quot; title=&quot;The problem with optimism in any endeavor, but with especially profound consequences in war, is that it &apos;&apos;restricts anticipation of error, minimizes its probability, and leads to the concealment of both its occurrence and the severity of its effects.&apos;&apos; Under a regime of optimism, errors may accumulate without recognition to a level that ultimately negates our ability to respond effectively, or requires a cost we may be unwilling to pay. Given the long lead time in the development of weapon systems and force structures, compounded by the dual problems of sunk costs and opportunity costs, in the domain of armed conflict this may translate to an unnecessary loss of blood and treasure if not actually to losing the war.&quot;&gt;The Risk of Optimism in the Conduct of War&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usawc/parameters/parahome.htm&quot; title=&quot;Parameters - US Army War College Quarterly - The United States Army&apos;s Senior Professional Journal&quot;&gt;Parameters&lt;/a&gt; is a treasure trove.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2004 23:43:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>POW/MIA&apos;s - Another Viet Nam War Fantasy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24321/POWMIAs%2DAnother%2DViet%2DNam%2DWar%2DFantasy</link>
		<description> &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.miafacts.org/menupg.htm&quot; title=&quot;Summary. For too long, actions by and information from the U. S. government and from MIA activists have fed the mythology that U. S. personnel were abandoned in captivity at the end of the Vietnam War. The facts are straightforward: No U. S. personnel were held in captivity after the end of Operation Homecoming in Spring, 1973. As in all wars, there are men who were lost and who will never be recovered. The U. S. Department of Defense is searching for the missing from Vietnam with an effort never before seen anywhere in history. Yet, the myth persists that the government is covering up information, is lying to families, and is doing nothing. It is past time to stop the nonsense. &quot;&gt;MIA Facts Site&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.miafacts.org/hope.htm&quot; title=&quot;Surrounding the MIA issue is a number of individuals and groups who claim that the US government knowingly abandoned men who were known to be held by the Vietnamese (or the Laotians, or the Cambodians, or others). These people further claim that the government has conducted a monstrous cover-up of these abandoned POWs. In spite of a mountain of evidence that such cover-up-and-conspiracy theories are groundless, the tales persist.&quot;&gt;Prisoners of Hope:  Exploiting the POW-MIA Myth in America.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vwip.org/articles/t/TourisonSedgwick_LetsSellTheBones.htm&quot; title=&quot;I want to place before you two conclusions based some facts, some evidence, some thoughts, and even some opinion, about the events of the 1980s that help explain why the POW/MIA issue was revitalized: first, officials at the National Security Council, the National League of POW/MIA Families, and even the Defense Intelligence Agency, deliberately manipulated POW/MIA intelligence and public awareness. The effect of this manipulation was that americans came to believe POW/MIA disinformation more than the oftentimes elusive truth. Second, officials of the Vietnamese and Lao intelligence and security services, both military and nonmilitary, are the sources of most POW/MIA disinformation that reached Washington throughout the 1980s. The effect of their efforts was to create a mirage that reflected what the Southeast Asian Communist governments wanted Americans to believe.&quot;&gt;Let&apos;s Sell The Bones : The Marketing of America&apos;s Missing In Action&lt;/a&gt; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;(More Inside)&lt;/i&gt;  </description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:41:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Do anti-war films glorify conflict?</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Robert_E._Lee/"&gt;It is well that war is so terrible, or we should grow too fond of it.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;i&gt;Platoon&lt;/i&gt;. &lt;i&gt;Full Metal Jacket&lt;/i&gt;. The opening sequence of &lt;i&gt;Saving Private Ryan&lt;/i&gt;. It&apos;s surprising that anyone volunteers for the armed forces after a steady diet of Hollywood depictions of the horrors of war. In &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/02/books/review/002BOWDET.html&quot;&gt;&quot;Jarhead&quot;&lt;/a&gt; Gulf War sniper Anthony Swafford contends that these&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/02/books/review/002BOWDET.html?pagewanted=2&quot;&gt;&quot;...Vietnam War films are all pro-war, regardless of what... Kubrick or Coppola or Stone intended. Filmic images of death and carnage are pornography for the military man.&lt;/a&gt;&quot; Does the terrible beauty of &lt;i&gt;Apocalypse Now &lt;/i&gt;actually help military recruitment?  </description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:49:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.vietnamdogtags.com"&gt;US Soldiers&apos; dogtags&lt;/a&gt; are sold on the streets of Vietnam.  An American backpacker bought as many as she could find and is now trying to find their owners. Interesting &lt;a href=http://www.vietnamdogtags.com/Story/story.html&gt;story.&lt;/a&gt;  </description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:21:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.nvvam.org/"&gt;Speaking of Veterans Day,&lt;/a&gt; here in Chicago we have the National Vietnam Veterans Art Museum.  Art by Vets about the War.  Most pieces are on-line with a short essay. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nvvam.org/memorial.html&quot;&gt;Above and Beyond memorial&lt;/a&gt; is impressive to say the least.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2001 22:14:05 -0800</pubDate>
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