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	<title>MetaFilter posts tagged with murder and law</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 00:29:42 -0800</pubDate> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 00:29:42 -0800</lastBuildDate>

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		<title>Don&apos;t shoot a man when he&apos;s down?</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/82050/Dont%2Dshoot%2Da%2Dman%2Dwhen%2Dhes%2Ddown</link>
		<description> &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31003987/&quot;&gt;In a case&lt;/a&gt; reminiscent of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Goetz&quot;&gt;Bernard Goetz&lt;/a&gt;, pharmacist Jerome Ersland was held up by two gun-wielding men, shot one of them in the head, and then, when the other had left, shot the prone man several more times, killing him (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=348373&quot;&gt;store security video&lt;/a&gt;). Now he&apos;s being charged with first-degree murder, and is the center of intense controversy about whether he engaged in legitimate self-defense by making absolutely sure his attacker was incapacitated or in an unjustifiable vigilante-style execution. Complicating matters is the fact that Jerome is white and the robbers black.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 00:29:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>A Mother&apos;s Love</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/29/nyregion/29juror.html?"&gt;With that meeting, Mr. Allo took his first step into an intricate trap.&lt;/a&gt; The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2009/01/brooklyn_sting200901?currentPage=1&quot;&gt;deeply strange tale&lt;/a&gt; of one &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/28/nyregion/28fisher.html&quot;&gt;very determined&lt;/a&gt; woman&apos;s quest to overturn her &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nysun.com/new-york/second-suspect-arrested-in-2003-murder/6640/&quot;&gt;son&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; conviction for murder.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:38:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Life and death of a black and white</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/73888/Life%2Dand%2Ddeath%2Dof%2Da%2Dblack%2Dand%2Dwhite</link>
		<description> &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/06/us/06execute.html?partner=rssyahoo&amp;emc=rss&quot;&gt;Texas executes Mexican national who was denied consul visit.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ccadp.org/josemedellin.htm&quot;&gt;Jose Medellin&lt;/a&gt;, a Mexican national, was born in the border town of &lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=27.490609,-99.440002&amp;spn=0.543936,1.031342&amp;z=11 &quot;&gt;Nuevo Laredo, just across the Rio Grande river from Laredo,TX.&lt;/a&gt;

Medell&amp;#0237;n moved to the US when he was 3 years of age, and was 18 years of age in June of 1993 when he participated in the gang rape and murder of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.murdervictims.com/voices/jeneliz.html&quot;&gt;Jennifer Ertman, 14 and Elizabeth Pena, 16 in Houston,Texas.&lt;/a&gt; He was subsequently found guilty and sentenced to death. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://lonestartimes.com/2008/04/04/jose-medellin-and-president-bush/&quot;&gt;In 2004&lt;/a&gt;, the International Court of Justice ruled that the Bush Administration must reconsider the case because Medellin was not informed of his right to contact Mexican consulate officials under the Vienna Convention.

After the ruling, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oyez.org/cases/2000-2009/2007/2007_06_984/&quot;&gt;President Bush&lt;/a&gt; asserted authority under the Constitution and the various laws of the United States to order states to review the convictions and sentences of foreign nationals who had not been advised of their Vienna Convention rights.

On March 25, 2008, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medell%C3%ADn_v._Texas&quot;&gt;U.S. Supreme Court&lt;/a&gt; rejected the arguments of the Bush Administration, and ruled that President Bush can&apos;t force Texas to reconsider, even if in violation of the International Court of Justice.[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/70399/SCOTUS-tells-the-ICJ-to-go-hang&quot;&gt;Previously&lt;/a&gt;] </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:47:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Convicted by Statistics?</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/67909/Convicted%2Dby%2DStatistics</link>
		<description> Dutch nurse Lucia De Berk has had her case &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.om.nl/nieuws/archief/2007/10/32473/&quot;&gt;reopened &lt;/a&gt;5 years after her conviction for multiple counts of murdering her patients. Ben Goldacre&apos;s much linked &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.badscience.net/&quot;&gt;Bad Science&lt;/a&gt; has an excellent &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.badscience.net//?p=392&quot;&gt;summary and collection of links&lt;/a&gt; reviewing the history of the case, suggesting that the conviction was based upon poor statistics and weak circumstantial evidence.
&lt;em&gt;&quot;In the three years before Lucia worked on the ward in question, there were 7 deaths. In the three years that Lucia did work on that ward, there were 6 deaths. It seems odd that the death rate should go down on a ward at the precise moment that a serial killer &#8220;on a killing spree&#8220; arrives on the scene.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v445/n7125/full/445254a.html&quot;&gt;Nature &lt;/a&gt;notes a parallel with the unfortunate case of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/sallyclark/&quot;&gt;Sally Clark,&lt;/a&gt; convicted largely by the erroneous statistical analysis of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4685511.stm&quot;&gt;now-discredited&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Meadow&quot;&gt;Sir Roy Meadow&lt;/a&gt; &lt;small&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/43123/Child-Abuse-Forensic-Pediatrician-Faces-Misconduct-Charges&quot;&gt;previously.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/small&gt; </description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 07:57:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Martial law on-demand in Baltimore</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/61254/Martial%2Dlaw%2Dondemand%2Din%2DBaltimore</link>
		<description> Public gatherings restricted? Check. Shutdown of independent businesses? Check. Lockdown on traffic and transportation in the area? You bet. Lawmakers in Baltimore trying to curb the city&apos;s homicide rate (already 108 this year) have come up with some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/baltimore_city/bal-te.md.ci.emergency17may17,1,5521348.story?ctrack=2&amp;cset=true&quot;&gt;&quot;desperate&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-lockdown-zones,1,4184517.story?ctrack=1&amp;cset=true&quot;&gt;measures&quot;&lt;/a&gt; of questionable constitutional legality, including heightening police presence in order to lockdown streets in &quot;emergency areas.&quot;  It has been called, &quot;partial martial law&quot; by some, and one has to wonder if the city of Baltimore may not do better to take a page from &lt;em&gt;The Wire&apos;s&lt;/em&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hbo.com/thewire/episode/season3/episode29.shtml&quot;&gt;Hamsterdam&lt;/a&gt; for a solution to their inextricably linked drug and homicide issues.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 12:37:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Jens Soering appeals to documentary makers</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/57343/Jens%2DSoering%2Dappeals%2Dto%2Ddocumentary%2Dmakers</link>
		<description> &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jenssoering.com/documentary_proposal&quot;&gt;Any aspiring filmmakers want to help exonerate a geeky German guy with no legal options left&lt;/a&gt;, falsely convicted of murder in Virginia?  In 1985, Jens Soering confessed to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/xp-21202&quot;&gt;murder of the parents&lt;/a&gt; of his American girlfriend, Elizabeth Haysom. He claims he was madly in love and confessed to protect her. Since 1995, &lt;a href=&quot;http://lucy.ukc.ac.uk/Soering/&quot;&gt;Jens&apos; very detailed description of events&lt;/a&gt; and the flaws in the case against him have been posted on the internet along with the former Virginian deputy attorney-general&apos;s (now his lawyer) endorsement. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jenssoering.com/&quot;&gt;Jens&apos; personal site&lt;/a&gt; maintains a list of articles and books Jens has written in prison. Elizabeth also has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fluvannareview.com/columns_glimpses.aspx&quot;&gt;her own column&lt;/a&gt;.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:10:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Who Killed Ryan Harris?</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/55935/Who%2DKilled%2DRyan%2DHarris</link>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/floyddurr/"&gt;Who Killed Ryan Harris?&lt;/a&gt; Eight years ago the body of eleven-year-old Ryan Harris was discovered in a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chicagoreporter.com/1999/12-99/1299whyenglewood.htm&quot;&gt;poor neighbourhood&lt;/a&gt; on the South Side of Chicago.  What followed was a saga involving &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/US/9808/11/boys.charged.01/index.html&quot;&gt;the youngest children in U.S. history&lt;/a&gt; to be charged with murder;  the subsequent dropping of the charges after exculpatory evidence surfaced and allegations of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bc.edu/schools/law/lawreviews/meta-elements/journals/bctwj/22_2/03_TXT.htm&quot;&gt;coerced confessions&lt;/a&gt;;  another (adult) suspect allegedly faking a low IQ and entering an &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alford_plea&quot;&gt;Alford plea&lt;/a&gt;;  lawsuits against the prosecutors on behalf of the boys, later &lt;a href=&quot;http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&amp;id=3457337&quot;&gt;settled out of court&lt;/a&gt;;  and, earlier this year, one of the boys coming back into the news after being charged in connection with a &lt;a href=&quot;http://travel2.nytimes.com/2006/06/19/us/19gipson.html&quot;&gt;double shooting&lt;/a&gt;, with lawyers insinuating that his earlier ordeal was to blame for his criminal activity.  One of the sadder stories I&apos;ve heard in some time.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:10:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Violence Begets Violence Begets Violence or: What the Hell is going on in Alabama?</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45703/Violence%2DBegets%2DViolence%2DBegets%2DViolence%2Dor%2DWhat%2Dthe%2DHell%2Dis%2Dgoing%2Don%2Din%2DAlabama</link>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;task=view&amp;amp;id=1265&amp;amp;Itemid=2"&gt;Man Sentenced to Death in Alabama.&lt;/a&gt; but not just any old death sentence.  This is the fellow who killed two cops and a police dispatcher, then blamed his actions on Grand Theft Auto, which is a popular video game.  Alabama, the state whose residents &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/08/27/ten.commandments/&quot;&gt;fought so hard to keep the 10 commandments on display in a courthouse&lt;/a&gt;.   Maybe they should have been allowed to display that monument, to remind them that murder is a crime - no matter how you dress it up.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2005 08:12:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>&quot;There was no one ever in American life who was remotely like Truman Capote&quot;, says Norman Mailer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/44386/There%2Dwas%2Dno%2Done%2Dever%2Din%2DAmerican%2Dlife%2Dwho%2Dwas%2Dremotely%2Dlike%2DTruman%2DCapote%2Dsays%2DNorman%2DMailer</link>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/film/coldblooded-tellers-of-tales/2005/08/04/1123125842281.html?oneclick=true"&gt;Truman Capote&apos;s Blood Work&lt;/a&gt; Two soon-to-be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.filmlinc.com/nyff/nyff.htm&quot;&gt;released&lt;/a&gt; films on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/capote_t.html&quot;&gt;Truman&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://digilib.nypl.org/dynaweb/ead/nypl/capote/@Generic__BookView&quot;&gt;Capote&lt;/a&gt;&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3880/is_199804/ai_n8784746&quot;&gt;life&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=25&amp;url=http%3A//www.sonyclassics.com/capote/presskit.pdf&amp;ei=AN0EQ9OCG8nYwgHC-bDaDQ&quot;&gt;Capote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.it/url?sa=t&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=1&amp;url=http%3A//www.imdb.com/title/tt0420609/&amp;ei=N90EQ_PFI8v6wQGxzZTADQ&quot;&gt;Have You Heard?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; begin as the novelist &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lawrence.com/news/2005/apr/08/capote/&quot;&gt;drops into rural Kansas&lt;/a&gt; to begin work on what became &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ansoniadesign.com/capote/&quot;&gt;In Cold Blood&lt;/a&gt;&quot;. More inside.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:18:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Child Abuse: Forensic Pediatrician Faces Misconduct Charges</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/43123/Child%2DAbuse%2DForensic%2DPediatrician%2DFaces%2DMisconduct%2DCharges</link>
		<description> In the emotive world of &lt;u&gt;child abuse&lt;/u&gt;, Professor Sir Roy Meadow became a celebrity in the last 25 years. He described &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2088-1669261,00.html&quot;&gt;Munchausen&apos;s Syndrome by proxy&lt;/a&gt; in which parents were said to have confabulated symptoms in their children in order to obtain medical treatment. Among child and health workers, Police and Social Workers, his eponymous law held that multiple childhood deaths in individual families were indicative of abuse and infanticide. &lt;br&gt;He was of course a popular forensic expert and his testimony resulted in murder convictions and removal of at-risk children from their families. But the Court of Appeal in UK has found that Prof. Meadow&apos;s statistical assertions and scientific &lt;em&gt;reasonings&lt;/em&gt; were themselves confabulated and there have been a number of convictions overturned. He is now &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/19495246?source=Evening%20Standard&quot;&gt;fighting for his professional reputation&lt;/a&gt; before the General Medical Council in London. &lt;strong&gt;[More Inside]&lt;/strong&gt;  </description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:33:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>&quot;We could make this great land of ours a greater place to live&quot;</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42444/We%2Dcould%2Dmake%2Dthis%2Dgreat%2Dland%2Dof%2Dours%2Da%2Dgreater%2Dplace%2Dto%2Dlive</link>
		<description> &lt;em&gt;&quot;Approximately 250,000 persons viewed and passed by the bier of little &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usnews.com/usnews/culture/articles/040524/24emmett.htm&quot;&gt;Emmett&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/famous/emmett_till/7.html?sect=7&quot;&gt;Till&lt;/a&gt;. All were shocked, some horrified and appalled. Many prayed, scores fainted and practically all, men, women and children wept&quot;.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;small&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/blackpress/news_bios/defender.html&quot;&gt;Chicago Defender&lt;/a&gt;, September 1, 1955.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/br&gt;
Federal officials this morning &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050601/NEWS01/50601002/1002/NEWS01&quot;&gt;erected a white tent over the grave of Emmett Till&lt;/a&gt; in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alsip.il.us/&quot;&gt;Alsip&lt;/a&gt;, Ill., &lt;a href=http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-050601till,1,689719.story?coll=chi-news-hed&quot; &quot;&gt;in preparation to exhume the body&lt;/a&gt; to shed light on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dsindex/27-ds5.htm&quot;&gt;Chicago teenager&apos;s death&lt;/a&gt; 50 years ago.
Till, 14 years old at the time, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/till/&quot;&gt;was killed in a hate crime&lt;/a&gt; in Money, Miss., that &lt;a href=&quot;http://bobdylan.com/songs/emmetttill.html&quot;&gt;sparked the Civil Rights movement&lt;/a&gt;. (previous Emmett Till MeFi threads &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/22743&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/33099&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;)  </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2005 08:56:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Told you so</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.nyclu.org/leg_m10_2003.html"&gt;I hate people who say I told you so...&lt;/a&gt; But....&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19980429&quot;&gt; Edgar Morales &lt;/a&gt;shot a&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&amp;storyID=7193374&quot;&gt; little girl&lt;/a&gt;, does that make him a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist&quot;&gt;terrorist?&lt;/a&gt; 
Other &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/fbi_terror95/terrorin.htm#anchorillinois&quot;&gt;gang members&lt;/a&gt; were&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/fbi_terror95/terrorin.htm&quot;&gt; prosecuted &lt;/a&gt;before this for terrorism, other groups who &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adl.org/learn/news/ricin_threat.asp&quot;&gt;maybe should have &lt;/a&gt;haven&apos;t - so what&apos;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.security.state.ny.us/pdfs/antiterror01.pdf&quot;&gt;new law&lt;/a&gt; for?
Is this the first of many prosecutions under new laws &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.babylonbeacon.com/news/2004/0806/Opinion/040.html&quot;&gt;which some said&lt;/a&gt; would do one thing but are actually doing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nyclu.org/leg_m15_2004.html&quot;&gt;something else?&lt;/a&gt;  </description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2004 23:10:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Smedleyman</dc:creator>
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		<title>Crimes of the century</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34083/Crimes%2Dof%2Dthe%2Dcentury</link>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://homicide.northwestern.edu"&gt;Homicide in Chicago: 1870-1930&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;July 25, 1899&lt;/strong&gt;
Murphy, James, 28 years old, shot dead, saloon 1210 Wabash Av., by Lorezo Sodini, proprietor. Murphy refused to pay for drinks and ran out of saloon and threw stone through window. Sodini ran out and fired at him, killing him instantly. Harrison St. Station. Held by Coroner&apos;s Jury, July 29. Acquitted Dec. 9, 1899, by jury in Judge Baker&apos;s court.
Case number: 1498&lt;/em&gt;  </description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2004 02:58:59 -0800</pubDate>
		<category>Chicago</category>
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		<dc:creator>tcp</dc:creator>
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		<title>Conservatives Win Big With Fetus Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/32045/Conservatives%2DWin%2DBig%2DWith%2DFetus%2DBill</link>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&amp;amp;u=/ap/20040326/ap_on_go_co/fetus_rights&amp;amp;cid=512&amp;amp;ncid=716"&gt;Conservatives Win Big With Fetus Bill&lt;/a&gt;  </description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:42:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>SpaceCadet</dc:creator>
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		<title>Justice, Las Vegas Style</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29844/Justice%2DLas%2DVegas%2DStyle</link>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.justice4kirstin.com/"&gt;Framed for defending herself.&lt;/a&gt; On August 28th, 2002 in Las Vegas, Nevada a woman named &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.injusticebusters.com/index.htm/Lobato/Kirstin_Lobato.htm&quot;&gt;Kirstin Lobato&lt;/a&gt; was sentenced to life in prison. She was the victim of an attempted rape in May 2001, and had defended herself against her rapist.   prosecutors used this &quot;confession&quot; of self defense to convict her of a murder that happened months later and in a town where &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.angelfire.com/stars4/justiceforkirstin/Time_Line/time_line.html&quot;&gt;she didn&apos;t even live&lt;/a&gt;.  How &quot;innocent until proven guilty&quot; can you be if prosecutors are willing to use known perjurers and refuse to allow expert testimony?  </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:35:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Durst Admits to Killing, Still Found Innocent</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/29527/Durst%2DAdmits%2Dto%2DKilling%2DStill%2DFound%2DInnocent</link>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.fox11az.com/news/other/stories/KMSB_other_durst_111103.3e7158b0.html"&gt;Robert Durst Admits to Killing but is found innocent&lt;/a&gt; because the jurors didn&apos;t think the prosecution proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Durst intentionally murdered, cut his ex-friend up and then threw the body parts in a lake.
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I&apos;m sure the fact that he&apos;s got like $9 billion had absolutely nothing to do with it.
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But since he&apos;s got a history of killing, I suppose they&apos;ll just wait for him to &quot;accidentally&quot; kill someone else and then try to dispose of the body without getting caught.
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But isn&apos;t an accidental killing still prosecutable? Isn&apos;t the fact that he admitted to chopping the body up and throwing it in a lake prosecutable?
&lt;br&gt; 
Are you wondering what ever did happen to his wife too?  </description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:44:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Wall of trouble?</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.nbc4.tv/entertainment/1953208/detail.html"&gt;Phil Spector arrested, booked for investigation of murder.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;small&gt;via Drudge&lt;small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;  </description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2003 12:37:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>111</dc:creator>
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		<title></title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/19806/</link>
		<description> This week, two boys in Florida were tried for the bludgeoning-murder of their father.  With accusations raised of the actual killing to have been done by another, adult male with alleged sexual ties to the two boys, &lt;a href=&quot;http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&amp;u=/nm/20020906/ts_nm/crime_boys_dc_2&quot;&gt;the boys were found guilty only of a lesser second-degree murder charge&lt;/a&gt;, claiming the adult must have done the actual deed... yet the jury was unaware the adult accused and being tried for that very idea was &lt;a href=&quot;http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&amp;u=/ap/20020906/ap_on_re_us/father_killed_19&quot;&gt;acquitted of all charges the previous week&lt;/a&gt;.  The issue?  Both trials were handled by the same prosecutor &lt;b&gt;who presented completely different theories to each jury...&lt;/b&gt; in other words, not settling on a confident belief of who actually performed the killing, the prosecution tried to get both the adult and the pair of boys convicted for it.  Isn&apos;t that risky?  Or, if you like a different flavor of debate, isn&apos;t that completely unethical?  </description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Sep 2002 15:32:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>XQUZYPHYR</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20020111/ts/crime_hockey_dc.html"&gt;Convicted Hockey Dad Killer to get only 3- 5 years?&lt;/a&gt; i know he only threw a few punches, but he was 275 lbs and his victim was 165 lbs.   I&apos;m sorry, but killing a guy nearly half your size in front of children - in front of both of their children even - is reason enough for throwing the book at this thug. 20 years = 10 years if he stays cool in the pokie - a pittance if you&apos;re the victims kids. Hopefully the Mass judge will make an example out of this totally unneccessary tragedy.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:05:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>tsarfan</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/national/36902_wfire29.shtml"&gt;Man who started campfire charged with two counts of murder&lt;/a&gt; Got a few questions for any legal scholars in the house.  In a nutshell:  How does a guy who neglected to put out a fire wind up getting charged with murder when two pilots accidentally crash into each other?  The un-nutshelled version inside.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:45:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Shadowkeeper</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010620/ts/crime_children_dc_3.html"&gt;Kill your five children, go to jail.&lt;/a&gt; So, what to do to a mother that decides not to be a mother any more?  </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:35:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description> San Francisco couple has been &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2001/LAW/03/27/dog.mauling.arrests/index.html&quot;&gt;charged with murder and manslaughter&lt;/a&gt; from the January 26 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/comments.mefi/5929&quot;&gt;fatal mauling&lt;/a&gt; of a neighbor by two dogs they were caring for.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:18:27 -0800</pubDate>
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