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		<title>Irish stew. Papal hide the pickle.</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo5MXrqbDeA"&gt;Irish PM condemns Vatican interference in sex abuse cases.&lt;/a&gt; Enda Kenny, the new Taoiseach of Ireland, has scathingly criticized the Vatican, citing the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Cloyne_Rpt.pdf/Files/Cloyne_Rpt.pdf&quot;&gt;Cloyne Report&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEqXZbdrliE&quot;&gt;a recently-leaked Vatican letter&lt;/a&gt; intended to prevent sex abuse cases from going public, despite their public policy of reporting all abuse claims to the authorities. (Similar claims of the Vatican not reporting recent child abuse cases &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/101194/This-time-the-climate-is-different&quot;&gt;have also been made in the US&lt;/a&gt;.) Ireland&apos;s Minister for Justice &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0720/cloyne2.html&quot;&gt;has cited an extensive list of The Church&apos;s failures to comply with their policies&lt;/a&gt;, and is supporting legislation to make it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sbpost.ie/news/ireland/parents-will-be-targeted-by-proposed-child-abuse-law-57687.html&quot;&gt;a crime not to report child abuse claims&lt;/a&gt;. The Vatican&apos;s envoy was asked to report to Parliament and explain The Church&apos;s position on this matter quickly, with the implied threat that they might be forced to testify. 

Today, the Church, citing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breakingnews.ie/archives/2011/0725/ireland/vatican-hits-out-at-excessive-reactions-after-cloyne-report-514138.html&quot;&gt;&quot;surprise and disappointment at certain excessive reactions&quot;&lt;/a&gt; has recalled their envoy. &quot;(This) should be interpreted as an expression of the desire of the Holy See for serious and effective collaboration with the (Irish) Government.&quot;  </description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:56:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Papal gymnasticis</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rbxov7CVi8"&gt;Papal gymnastics.&lt;/a&gt; Just your typical day at the Vatican. Topless muscle-bound gymnasts perform for the Pope, appreciative cardinals and waving nuns. Make your own jokes.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:42:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Do bears still shit in the woods?</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/the-pope/8148899/Pope-approves-use-of-condoms-in-fight-against-Aids.html"&gt;The Pope approves the use of condoms&lt;/a&gt;  </description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:27:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Missionary Position: Facing West</title>
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		<description> Pope Benedict XVI has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1002665.htm&quot;&gt;announced&lt;/a&gt; the establishment of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/the-pope/7861377/Pope-launches-team-to-re-evangelise-the-West.html&quot;&gt;a new Vatican department&lt;/a&gt; dedicated to tackling what he called &apos;a grave crisis in the sense of the Christian faith and the role of the Church.&quot;  The Pontifical Council for the Promotion of New Evangelisation will (per &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/03/vincent-nichols-profile&quot;&gt;Archbishop Vincent Nichols,&lt;/a&gt;) focus on countries &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.indcatholicnews.com/news.php?viewStory=16401&quot;&gt;&quot;in which, even though the Christian Gospel has shaped an entire culture,&quot;&lt;/a&gt; secularism now reigns, in what the Pope termed an &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2010-06-30-secular29_ST_N.htm&quot;&gt;eclipse of a sense of God.&quot;&lt;/a&gt; Editorial: &lt;a href=&quot;http://content.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2010/06/god-catholic-church-pope-benedict-vatican-secular/1&quot;&gt;&quot;Catholicism, the religion that gave the world the idea of the missionary, is struggling on its historic home turf.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

This council is part of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128181388&quot;&gt;a larger reshuffling of the Vatican hierarchy,&lt;/a&gt; which may  support the Pope&apos;s ongoing anti- &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9FM362G0&amp;show_article=1&quot;&gt;abortion and gay marriage&lt;/a&gt; efforts: 

The first President of the new Evangelical Council will be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bfisi.html&quot;&gt;Archbishop Salvatore Fisichella&lt;/a&gt;, a Vatican bioethics official, whose controversial front page statement in the L&#8217;Osservatore Romano newspaper last year &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/20/AR2009032002415.html&quot;&gt;condoned&lt;/a&gt; the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/23/renato-fisichella-vatican_n_472928.html&quot;&gt;abortion of twins&lt;/a&gt; in a nine year-old Brazilian rape victim.&lt;/a&gt;  At the time, Fisichella headed the institution that helps frame the Catholic church&apos;s &quot;pro-life&quot; doctrines, The Pontifical Academy for Life. 

A Canadian theologian and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/30/pope-abortion-cardinal-marc-ouellet&quot;&gt;anti-abortion hardliner, Cardinal Marc Ouellet, will now head&lt;/a&gt; the Vatican&#8217;s powerful Congregation for Bishops, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/01/world/americas/01pope.html?_r=1&quot;&gt;which evaluates the nomination of bishops and sets the tone for the Catholic Church hierarchy worldwide.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&#8220;The head of the Congregation of Bishops is a very important nomination; it determines the ruling class of the Catholic Church for the next 20 years,&#8221; said Andrea Tornielli, a Vatican expert with the Italian daily newspaper Il Giornale.  

The appointment is particularly important in light of the abuse scandal, which has called into question the actions of bishops around the world. Victims have accused bishops of covering up abuse or not acting swiftly to discipline priests who have abused minors.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt; Ouellet has been outspoken against &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/cardinal+wants+abortion+debate+reopened/3074201/story.html&quot;&gt;abort&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.christiantelegraph.com/issue9879.html&quot;&gt;ion&lt;/a&gt; (calling it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2010/05/17/ouellet-marois-abortion-rape.html&quot;&gt;a &apos;moral crime&apos;, unjustified even in cases of rape&lt;/a&gt;) and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cardinalrating.com/cardinal_72__article_4768.htm&quot;&gt;gay marriage&lt;/a&gt;. </description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 08:50:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Offending the honour of the sacred and inviolable person</title>
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		<description> Sabrina Guzzanti, an Italian comedienne who said that Pope Benedict XVI &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4732048.ece&quot;&gt;would go to Hell&lt;/a&gt; and be tormented by homosexual demons is facing a prison term of up to five years, according to the provisions of the Lateran treaty. The July rally was called to protest against alleged interference by the Vatican and the Catholic Church in Italian affairs, from abortion to gay rights, but also to attack the Prime Minister for passing &quot;ad personam&quot; laws to protect his own interests and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0723/berlusconis.html&quot;&gt;avoid prosecution on corruption allegations&lt;/a&gt;.

Three years ago Ms Guzzanti released a widely praised film, Viva Zapatero!, about the suppression in 2003 of her late night show RAIot in which she had satirised the Italian Prime Minister. 

Antonio Di Pietro, a senator and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.justresponse.net/dipietro_pacitti.html&quot;&gt;former anti-corruption magistrate&lt;/a&gt;, who organised the rally, said that Ms Guzzanti had only &quot;exercised her constitutional right to freedom of thought. [...] To put people in prison for what they think is reminiscent of a time when those who thought differently had castor oil poured down their throats&quot; &#8212; a reference to the Fascist era, when the Lateran Treaty was enacted. </description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:05:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Tu es Petrus</title>
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		<description> After breaking the ice with his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uspapalvisit.org/stories/vmessage.htm&quot;&gt;video message&lt;/a&gt; to all Americans, His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI arrives in Washington, D.C. this afternoon for the initial part of his first Papal visit to the United States of America.  Watch it all &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ewtn.com/USPapalVisit08/watch/index.asp&quot;&gt;live&lt;/a&gt;. Popes traveling abroad rely largely on planning by the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidiarity&quot;&gt;local&lt;/a&gt; dioceses they visit, which has proven &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23526177-26040,00.html&quot;&gt;unworkable&lt;/a&gt; at times for Pope Benedict&apos;s new &lt;a href=&quot;http://wdtprs.com/blog/2007/12/the-return-of-triumphalism/&quot;&gt;Master of Ceremonies&lt;/a&gt;.  (Because you just &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.novusordowatch.org/newguinea.jpg&quot;&gt;never&lt;/a&gt; know what the locals have planned for you to &lt;a href=&quot;http://romanmiscellany.blogspot.com/2007/09/that-blue-chasuble.html&quot;&gt;wear&lt;/a&gt;.) 

His visit to Washington includes plans for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/04/20080411-10.html&quot;&gt;a visit to the White House&lt;/a&gt;; an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-04-08-voa22.cfm&quot;&gt;interfaith&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0801407.htm&quot;&gt;gathering&lt;/a&gt;; a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=14950&quot;&gt;meeting with the bishops of the United States&lt;/a&gt;; an address to the presidents of Catholic colleges and universities at the Pope&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontifical_university&quot;&gt;own&lt;/a&gt; university, Catholic U., in what &lt;a href=&quot;http://washingtontimes.com/article/20080415/EDITORIAL/929569819&quot;&gt;some&lt;/a&gt; are heralding as the key moment during B16&apos;s visit; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=27507&quot;&gt;Mass&lt;/a&gt; at the new Washington Nationals baseball stadium.  

(There seems to be a fairly long tradition of popes--each pope is &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ewtn.com/jp2/papal3/titles.htm&quot;&gt;Sovereign Ruler of the Vatican City State&lt;/a&gt;,&quot; after all--&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.americanpapist.com/2008/04/photopost-popes-meeting-us-presidents.html&quot;&gt;meeting with presidents&lt;/a&gt;.)  

His New York schedule includes plans to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=57773&quot;&gt;address the&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=26303&amp;Cr=benedict&amp;Cr1=pope&quot;&gt;United Nations&lt;/a&gt;; meet with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=57607&quot;&gt;Jewish leaders&lt;/a&gt; at a NY synagogue; celebrate Mass with local priests, deacons and religious; meet with &lt;a href=&quot;http://video.wnbc.com/player/?id=238249&quot;&gt;children with disabilities&lt;/a&gt; (video); participate in a rally with youth--who&apos;ve designed a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=12271&quot;&gt;skate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://pope2008.typepad.com/weblog/2008/04/the-official--1.html&quot;&gt;board&lt;/a&gt; for the pope--and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0800893.htm&quot;&gt;seminarians&lt;/a&gt;; visit Ground Zero, where he will read a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cwnews.com/offtherecord/offtherecord.cfm?task=singledisplay&amp;recnum=4685&quot;&gt;prayer&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL1079181020080410&quot;&gt;for all the souls who perished on 9/11&lt;/a&gt;; and celebrate Mass at &lt;a href=&quot;http://benedictinamerica.blogspot.com/2008/03/yankee-stadium-papal-stage-unveiled.html&quot;&gt;Yankee&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/12/nyregion/12pope.html?_r=1&amp;em&amp;ex=1208232000&amp;en=d419b956b73bd825&amp;ei=5087%0A&amp;oref=slogin&quot;&gt;Stadium&lt;/a&gt;. 

Oh, and Papa Ratzinger will also be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=12306&quot;&gt;turning a spry 81&lt;/a&gt; tomorrow.  
He returns to the Vatican on April 20, presumably to play with his &lt;a href=&quot;http://closedcafeteria.blogspot.com/2008/01/cat-lover.html&quot;&gt;cats&lt;/a&gt;. </description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:28:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Papa Palm&amp;#0233;rino Sorgente, the Pope of Montr&amp;#0233;al</title>
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		<description> &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.quartierephemere.org/download/papa.jpg&quot;&gt;Papa Palm&amp;#0233;rino Sorgente, the Pope of Montr&amp;#0233;al&lt;/a&gt; Here&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://zon.art.free.fr/zonart_09/zon09_04.html&quot;&gt;more photos&lt;/a&gt; of him and his art and here he is &lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LcWtO7WKDnY&quot;&gt;on YouTube&lt;/a&gt; in action and also &lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2798182040846031344&quot;&gt;on Google Video&lt;/a&gt;.  More photos embedded in Flash in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.madeinmtl.com/stops/347/2/&quot;&gt;Made in Montr&amp;#0233;al page&lt;/a&gt; for him.  He&apos;s a bit dour in those but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sai.qc.ca/51.html&quot;&gt;here he is smiling&lt;/a&gt;, straight out of Pixar&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pixar.com/shorts/gg/index.html&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Geri&apos;s Game&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  I met this guy in the fall of Y2K while visiting &#8220;La Ville Aux Cent Clochers&#8221; / &#8220;The City of a Hundred Belltowers&#8221;.  Flatluigi&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/69467/The-Throne-of-the-Third-Heaven-of-the-Nations-Millennium-General-Assembly&quot;&gt;recent post&lt;/a&gt; reminded me of him.

He&apos;s a cool, talkative, and cheerful, if not entirely there, &lt;em&gt;artiste&lt;/em&gt; of the grassroots genre.  As you can tell by the frame of that first photo the &lt;a href=&quot;http://mybedazzler.com/&quot;&gt;Bedazzler&lt;/a&gt; was made for this man.

It was quite confusing to try to carry on a conversation with him in my limited French until I realized that he didn&apos;t speak that language.  (Or maybe his accent was so heavy I couldn&apos;t understand him.)  According to the amusing anecdote on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www2.voir.ca/artsvisuels/fichespectacle.aspx?iIDSpectacle=30530&amp;iIDRepresentation=55430&quot;&gt;this page&lt;/a&gt; (in French) Papa Palm&amp;#0233;rino is a Kosovar.  Though elsewhere it shows he emigrated to Canada from Italy.

The YT video doesn&apos;t really do justice to what it&apos;s like being in his little shop, Le Mus&amp;#0233;e de Papa Palm&amp;#0233;rino, but the &lt;em&gt;Montr&amp;#0233;al Mirror&lt;/em&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.montrealmirror.com/ARCHIVES/1999/052799/stores.html&quot;&gt;says it best&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;If religious collectibles are your thing, this place may be your little slice of heaven. The place is chock-full of Jesuses--statues big and small, crucifixes, key chains, mugs. Seems Papa is quite the Jesus fan, which makes sense, considering he believes himself to be his brother. Ask him to show you framed photos of himself mounted on a cross (I didn&apos;t ask if these were for sale). Papa Palmerino sells a wide variety of other religious doo-dads including rosary beads, candles and rings he claims cure arthritis. Even if the &#8216;Second Coming&#8217; isn&apos;t quite the motif you&apos;re going for in decorating your house, this place is worth visiting for the browsing and... uh... conversation.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;(Not sure if that&apos;s clear, but he actually has photos of himself mock-crucified, loincloth and crown of thorns and everything.)

I don&apos;t know if he&apos;s still truckin&apos; because he was 85 years old in 2003&lt;a href=&quot;http://artfacts.net/index.php/pageType/exhibitionInfo/exhibMailMode/1/exhibition/88419&quot;&gt;&#10138;&lt;/a&gt;. I guess his shop burned down a couple of months after I met him!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jonapelovska.com/&quot;&gt;This person&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thejunks.com/jonapelovska.html&quot;&gt;Jona Pelovska&lt;/a&gt;, seems to have made a documentary about him.  Her &lt;a href=&quot;http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendid=175972942&quot;&gt;MySpace page&lt;/a&gt; says &#8220;in post-production.&#8221; </description>
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		<title>Two popes, two</title>
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		<description> &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truecatholic.org/heresiesb16.htm&quot;&gt;&quot;Ratzinger is an Evolutionist, which by definition makes one an athiest&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, is one of the reasons that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truecatholic.org/&quot;&gt;this website&lt;/a&gt;, in which the &quot;true&quot; catholic faith (different [?] from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vatican.va/&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;other &lt;/em&gt; catholic faith&lt;/a&gt;) is promoted, gives as to claiming Benedict XVI isn&apos;t the true pope. And to make their point they have elected a &quot;real&quot; pope themselves: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truecatholic.org/pope/&quot;&gt;Pope Pius XIII&lt;/a&gt; His real name? &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Catholic_Church&quot;&gt;Lucian Pulvermacher&lt;/a&gt; (wikipedia)
(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/5463/&quot;&gt;previously&lt;/a&gt;) But, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truecatholic.org/pope/faq.htm#jp2&quot;&gt;How can they elect a pope when they have one in the Vatican?&lt;/a&gt; you ask? Well, according to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truecatholic.org/pope/faq.htm&quot;&gt;FAQ&lt;/a&gt;, which is a tad outdated: &quot;John Paul II is NOT the Pope and never was.  Neither were the 3 other imposters, John XXIII, Paul VI or John Paul I.&quot;

Of course, having two popes isn&apos;t news at all for the catholic church. There have been &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipope&quot;&gt;antipopes &lt;/a&gt; (wikipedia), a second pope unrecognized by the Vatican, intermitently for almost 1900 years now.
Once there were even &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13539a.htm&quot;&gt;three popes at the same time&lt;/a&gt;, couresy of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Schism&quot;&gt;Western Schism&lt;/a&gt; (wikipedia).
(&lt;a href=&quot;http://j-walkblog.com/&quot;&gt;via&lt;/a&gt;) </description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:35:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Benedictus XVI&apos;s first encyclical letter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/48543/Benedictus%2DXVIs%2Dfirst%2Dencyclical%2Dletter</link>
		<description> &lt;em&gt;The just ordering of society and the State is a central responsibility of politics. As Augustine once said, a State which is not governed according to justice would be just a bunch of thieves: &#8220;Remota itaque iustitia quid sunt regna nisi magna latrocinia?&#8221;.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/br&gt;
Eros and Agape, Justice, Charity, Marxism, and the separation of Church and State in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20051225_deus-caritas-est_en.html&quot;&gt;Pope Benedictus XVI&apos;s first encyclical letter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Deus Caritas Est&lt;/em&gt;.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 04:08:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Papal conclave</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41023/Papal%2Dconclave</link>
		<description> The conclave of cardinals will soon start the process of choosing a new pope. Have you filled in &lt;a href=http://www.drewmarlowe.com/pictures/brackets.jpg&gt;your brackets&lt;/a&gt; yet?  </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:14:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>The Pope is dead</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40923/The%2DPope%2Dis%2Ddead</link>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mymod/hdln/z/afrt/sty/SIG=137b6lh8f/EXP=1112558881;_ylt=Ap641klh417pOmINZ74QEVwE1vAI/*http%3A//story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&amp;amp;cid=578&amp;amp;e=1&amp;amp;u=/nm/20050402/ts_nm/pope_dc"&gt;Its official,&lt;/a&gt; Pope John Paul II has died at age 84 in Vatican City. &lt;em&gt;&quot;The Holy Father died this evening at 21.37 in his private apartment&quot;&lt;/em&gt;  </description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 12:07:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>SirOmega</dc:creator>
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		<title>Pope Michael Has Many Computer Problems</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/35726/Pope%2DMichael%2DHas%2DMany%2DComputer%2DProblems</link>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://popemichael.homestead.com/"&gt;The &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; Vatican is in Kansas.&lt;/a&gt; &quot;On July 16, 1990 the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Roman Church elected David Bawden as Pope Michael, ending an almost 32 year long interegnum.&quot;  </description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:52:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>eustacescrubb</dc:creator>
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		<title>The Vatican Jumps the Shark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/34695/The%2DVatican%2DJumps%2Dthe%2DShark</link>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040731.wvatican0731/BNStory/Front/"&gt;The Pope to Women: &quot;get back in your place&quot;&lt;/a&gt; - The Vatican, fearing it may still share some semblance of the same reality as the rest of us seeks to rectify this problem by telling women that they should stop hoping for the same things as men have.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;The obscuring of the difference or duality of the sexes has enormous consequences on a variety of levels,&quot; the document said, asserting it has inspired ideologies that &quot;call into question the family, in its natural two-parent structure of mother and father.&quot;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;It also warned of challenges to fundamentals of church teaching, saying the blurring of differences &quot;would consider as lacking in importance and relevance the fact that the Son of God assumed human nature in its male form.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  </description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 16:09:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<category>feminism</category>
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		<dc:creator>Space Coyote</dc:creator>
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		<title>Pronouncing Oligarchical Persecution, Everywhere</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/27400/Pronouncing%2DOligarchical%2DPersecution%2DEverywhere</link>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/gayrights/story/0,12592,1010329,00.html"&gt;The Pope really disapproves of gay marriage.&lt;/a&gt; He says &quot;people extending cohabitation rights &apos;need to be reminded that the approval or legalisation of evil is something far different from the toleration of evil.&apos;&quot; He &quot;also described gay sex as inhuman and gay couples adopting children as &apos;doing violence&apos;.&quot;&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;And some people thought Bush was bad!&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;  </description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2003 06:46:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<category>civilunion</category>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Stone</dc:creator>
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		<title>The Seven Capital Sins - Revised!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/24242/The%2DSeven%2DCapital%2DSins%2DRevised</link>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/06/arts/06GLUT.html"&gt;Hey, It&apos;s Not Enough We Die Of Obesity&lt;/a&gt; without having to go to Hell too?  Some enlightened Frenchmen are bending the Pope&apos;s ear, trying to spring Gluttony from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rushman.org/seven/&quot;&gt;Deadly Sins&lt;/a&gt; blacklist. Well, even clever old &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newadvent.org/summa/208404.htm&quot;&gt;Thomas Aquinas&lt;/a&gt; did his damnedest to narrow the seven buggers down. So: which sins would &lt;b&gt;you&lt;/b&gt; excuse today&apos;s poor sufferers from and which ones would you &lt;b&gt;insist&lt;/b&gt; on keeping, if any? [&lt;small&gt;Something tells me MetaFilter is ideally suited to put in a good word for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.digsmagazine.com/laze/laze_InPraiseofSloth.htm&quot;&gt;Sloth&lt;/a&gt;. I wonder why? Speaking of which, NYT reg. is required but you can read about it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.decanter.com/news/newsdefault.asp?newsstoryid=1025&amp;ListStart=11&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; instead.  Via &lt;b&gt;Arts and Letters Daily&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/small&gt;]  </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:31:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Hail Mary, full of....</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/20802/Hail%2DMary%2Dfull%2Dof</link>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&amp;amp;ncid=578&amp;amp;e=8&amp;amp;cid=578&amp;amp;u=/nm/20021014/ts_nm/pope_dc"&gt;Hail Mary, full of....&lt;/a&gt; um.... what was that, again?  The only Pope many of us have known, John Paul II, has decided that a millenium is long enough to change a prayer.  Odd that two millenia are not enough to revisit female and married priests.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:32:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/18834/</link>
		<description> Today in Mexico, Pope removes chin from chest to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-Pope.html&quot;&gt;canonize &lt;/a&gt; the first &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/saintjem.htm&quot;&gt;Indian saint&lt;/a&gt;.   </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:00:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>THE Pope will host the European premiere of 2001: A Space Odyssey.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/6142/THE%2DPope%2Dwill%2Dhost%2Dthe%2DEuropean%2Dpremiere%2Dof%2D2001%2DA%2DSpace%2DOdyssey</link>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2-92277,00.html"&gt;THE Pope will host the European premiere of 2001: A Space Odyssey.&lt;/a&gt; I&apos;m guessing my thoughts on 2001 aren&apos;t all that different from the pope&apos;s, but I&apos;m mostly an atheist. How do you view the monolith? And also, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cinepad.com/vatican.htm&quot;&gt;here&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; a list of pope&apos;s favorite films. Andrei Rublev is my overall 4th favorite film, the Sacrifice and Decalogue are in my 20&apos;s.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:52:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>tiaka</dc:creator>
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		<description> Pope John Paul II has been busy protecting his conservative legacy by appointing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.catholic.org/media/news/current.shtml#4&quot;&gt;a record number of new cardinals&lt;/a&gt;. This expanded group of cardinals will vote for the next pontiff and so a continuation of the Church&apos;s present course on abortion and birth control is quite likely.&lt;br&gt;Still, it&apos;s a little known fact that the Vatican actually ceased to the home of the &lt;i&gt;true &lt;/i&gt;Catholic Church on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truecatholic.org&quot;&gt;October 9th, 1959&lt;/a&gt; and that John Paul II is, in fact, a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truecatholic.org/heresiesjp2.htm&quot;&gt;heretical anti-pope&lt;/a&gt;.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2001 03:57:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Our religion is better then yours, Naa, Naa!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/3133/Our%2Dreligion%2Dis%2Dbetter%2Dthen%2Dyours%2DNaa%2DNaa</link>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/455604.asp"&gt;Our religion is better then yours, Naa, Naa!&lt;/a&gt;         &#8220;The truth of faith does not lessen the sincere respect which the Church has for the religions of the world, but at the same time, it rules out...a religious relativism which leads to the belief that &#8216;one religion is as good as another&#8217;,&#8221; it said.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2000 22:35:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description> I went to Catholic high school for two years, and being the incredibly geeky type, I wondered, given the Pope is the Bishop of Rome, how he ran the whole church and his provincial diocese. This &lt;a href=&apos;http://www.chiesacattolica.it/diocesi/lazio/roma/present1.htm&apos;&gt;site&lt;/a&gt; is a good snippet that answers the question, for those people like me who have academic interests in theology.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:49:50 -0800</pubDate>
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