Anthony Jeselnik
March 27, 2011 10:04 AM   Subscribe

 
That's pretty well spot on.
posted by nevercalm at 10:17 AM on March 27, 2011 [1 favorite]


* golf clap *
posted by spoobnooble at 10:18 AM on March 27, 2011 [2 favorites]


Nice effort, but let's remember our performance hierarchy: legitimate theatre, musical theatre, stand-up, ventriloquism, magic, mime, impressions, quoting from cartoons.
posted by Sys Rq at 10:22 AM on March 27, 2011 [17 favorites]


Bob Odenkirk as Dane Cook.
posted by Iridic at 10:25 AM on March 27, 2011 [8 favorites]


Just wanted to pop in and say that Anthony Jeselnik, on his own, is pretty much the best thing going right now.
posted by Old Man Wilson at 10:29 AM on March 27, 2011


I like this and also like Aziz Ansari's Raaaaaandy because in both cases they have this forced theatricality that on some level they're criticizing but on the other hand is actually very effective on its own. Because guess what the initial iteration of that joke wasn't that great. Like the joke logic wasn't all that strong, at the end of the day it was using a pretty basic garden-path structure and the pay off was a pretty light shock tactic. But when you add a lot of energy and evocative details and physicality to it, it is more fun to watch than the sort of dead smug surliness of Jeselnik's normal delivery.
posted by I Foody at 10:30 AM on March 27, 2011 [7 favorites]


Yes, it may come off as slightly reverse argumentum ad populum

I believe that's known as the argumentum sine televisionum.
posted by Horace Rumpole at 10:33 AM on March 27, 2011 [25 favorites]


One Dane Cook is already too many.
posted by chambers at 10:35 AM on March 27, 2011 [1 favorite]


"Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?" (Archer, Training Day)
posted by zippy at 10:36 AM on March 27, 2011 [12 favorites]


And here I was, thinking about how much I missed 2004.
posted by gc at 10:39 AM on March 27, 2011 [1 favorite]


We must know what we are rejecting if we are to reject it. Dane Cook sucks, and this gentleman shows us why. Now, I'm gonna go take a dump and get on with m'day.
posted by ReeMonster at 10:43 AM on March 27, 2011


"Is he saying something funny?"
"I don't know, but he's moving around a lot, so I guess."

"Haha, he was on the internet, and I'm in college! Haha!"
posted by filthy light thief at 10:48 AM on March 27, 2011 [3 favorites]


This guy's twitter stream is the funniest thing he does, it seems.
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 10:53 AM on March 27, 2011 [1 favorite]


Because guess what the initial iteration of that joke wasn't that great. Like the joke logic wasn't all that strong, at the end of the day it was using a pretty basic garden-path structure and the pay off was a pretty light shock tactic.

But the real point is he removes the "shock tactic" all together. If you were to have him tell the story a third time still as dane Cook but sans the crazy antics it would be a straight forward story with no twist and therefore no "joke".
posted by djduckie at 10:53 AM on March 27, 2011 [2 favorites]


I Foody, I believe it's Raaaaaaaandy with 8 A's
posted by azarbayejani at 10:53 AM on March 27, 2011 [5 favorites]




Know how good that Dane Cook impression was? I stopped watching it about 30 seconds in. Uncanny how an impression of how unfunny Dane Cook is can be just as unfunny as REAL Dane Cook. It's like any attempt to get humor out of Dane Cook, even as a concept is nigh impossible.
posted by KingEdRa at 10:58 AM on March 27, 2011


Did anybody listen to Dane Cook on WTF? I thought I would like him more, because Maron has such a unique ability to humanize the comics he interviews, to let them sort of open up and express something a little deeper, but with Dane Cook, it was like, dude, stop doing your act, who are you, why are you being like that? It was really strange. Like, ok, there is this guy. And he's Dane Cook. But there's not really a Dane Cook behind the Dane Cook. The guy you thought the real Dane Cook was trying to act like is Dane Cook. Did anyone else get that feeling? And no, I wasn't/am not currently high.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 11:02 AM on March 27, 2011 [3 favorites]


Haha. It's funny cuz I hate him.
posted by EatTheWeek at 11:08 AM on March 27, 2011


MADTV does Dane Cook
posted by Fizz at 11:15 AM on March 27, 2011 [1 favorite]


That was pretty hilarious.
posted by brundlefly at 11:34 AM on March 27, 2011


I thought I would like him more, because Maron has such a unique ability to humanize the comics he interviews, to let them sort of open up and express something a little deeper, but with Dane Cook, it was like, dude, stop doing your act, who are you, why are you being like that? It was really strange. Like, ok, there is this guy. And he's Dane Cook. But there's not really a Dane Cook behind the Dane Cook. The guy you thought the real Dane Cook was trying to act like is Dane Cook.

I'm not sure why this is blowing your mind. Dane Cook is probably successful at being Dane Cook because he more or less actually is like that, for better and for worse.

While he is not my favorite comedian, I do think there's something revealing about the fact that parodies of Dane Cook are apparently popular in alt-comedy circles - it's like, how dare that frantic frat boy succeed in an arena mostly populated by wry, bitter social outcasts. As a public figure, Dane Cook is as good a target for comedy ire as anyone else, but the vitriol thrown at the guy is disproportionate to the actual harm he causes. I think it says more about the culture of comedy nerds than it does about Cook himself.

I also wish that Dane Cook took on more avowedly sleazy roles, like he did in the very nutty thriller Mr. Brooks and in the crappy B-movie Torque. Cook is charismatically sleazy - I wish he had the balls to go full-on Bruce Dern or Peter Lorre in some really nasty neo-noir.
posted by Sticherbeast at 11:39 AM on March 27, 2011 [10 favorites]


As a public figure, Dane Cook is as good a target for comedy ire as anyone else, but the vitriol thrown at the guy is disproportionate to the actual harm he causes. I think it says more about the culture of comedy nerds than it does about Cook himself.

I agree, and what was great about the WTF episode was that Maron was trying to get at the heart of that. Maron was being very sympathetic to Cook, asking him why he thought so many people didn't like him and what he thought other people were threatened by. But as the interview wore on, and as Maron gave him more and more opportunities to show some vulnerability, he just kept projecting this weird air of vapidity and confidence that smacked of bottomless insecurity. Listening to WTF is so great in that you get this parade of comedians who recognize that what they do is at least partly born of some sort of insecurity or desire for recognition or acceptance, and are eager or at least willing to discuss it with Maron. Dane Cook, on the other hand, kept rejecting any sort of deeper or more layered examination of his work and his occupation. In the larger context of WTF, it was an oddly revealing interview in that it did not reveal anything. That's not to say that Cook is shallow, necessarily. Another reading is that he is just extremely controlling of his image and how he is perceived as a comic.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 11:50 AM on March 27, 2011 [1 favorite]


I think the vitriol thrown at Dane Cook has a lot to do with the fact that he's patently unfunny *and* a blatant thief of others material. See Carlos Mencia.
posted by stenseng at 11:50 AM on March 27, 2011 [3 favorites]


See Carlos Mencia.

Better yet, don't.
posted by Splunge at 11:56 AM on March 27, 2011 [10 favorites]


Dane Cook is casually hateful in some of his schtick, and it's convincing enough for me to elicit a gutteral revulsion.
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 11:58 AM on March 27, 2011 [7 favorites]


from his twitter stream --

The opposite of sad is down's syndrome.

I've only prayed about two things in my life: the Balloon Boy and the Chilean miners. And both times, God ignored me.

Bigots wouldn't be so quick to burn the Quran if they all had Kindles.

Fun Size candy bars are the Mardi Gras beads of Pedophilia.

Sad day. Ronnie James Dio is in heaven now. Ironically, I assume.

Child molesters must all think they've got HUGE dicks.
posted by puny human at 12:33 PM on March 27, 2011 [1 favorite]


Dane Cook.
posted by user92371 at 12:47 PM on March 27, 2011


Cook Dane Cook.
posted by fuq at 12:52 PM on March 27, 2011


Bigots wouldn't be so quick to burn the Quran if they all had Kindles.

This is a good line. He stole it from me.
posted by tigrefacile at 1:04 PM on March 27, 2011 [1 favorite]


Hmm. I thought Anthony Jeselnik as Dane Cook was funnier than Anthony Jeselnik as Anthony Jeselnik. So maybe the joke kind of backfired for me.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 1:16 PM on March 27, 2011 [2 favorites]


how dare that frantic frat boy succeed in an arena mostly populated by wry, bitter social outcasts.

Well, of course they're super hateful of him; comedy is the Holy Land for 'em because it is one of the few arenas where being a wry, bitter social outcast is celebrated. Then comes the fratboy doucheball into the area, and is more successful than most indie comics could ever dream of --- it suggests that even there, even there, the popular kids still win. So of course they hate him.

Me, I dislike him because all his material about his girlfriends gives me that same icky feeling you get with some writers, where it's like, "oh, you don't think women are people, do you?"
posted by Diablevert at 1:39 PM on March 27, 2011 [6 favorites]


I thought Anthony Jeselnik as Dane Cook was funnier than Anthony Jeselnik as Anthony Jeselnik. So maybe the joke kind of backfired for me.

I remember Aziz Ansari having a somewhat similar remark about when he did some shows as Ra(aaaaaaa)ndy. He told some of the very same jokes, but the Cook-esque persona got bigger laughs in many locations. There's something to be said for gesticulating and a "schtick" when it comes to getting an audience response. I can think of a number of much "cooler" (and, admittedly, much better) comedians who have every bit as much of a schtick as Dane Cook, although of course Cook's branding is more or less his own.

Me, I dislike him because all his material about his girlfriends gives me that same icky feeling you get with some writers, where it's like, "oh, you don't think women are people, do you?"

I hear you and I don't necessarily disagree, but I've heard just as much material in that vein (and worse) from wry, bitter social outcasts and other, "cooler" performers.

I think my main reason for constantly backhandedly defending Dane Cook is because many of his cliches and demerits really aren't any worse than many others, except for the fact that he is very successful financially.
posted by Sticherbeast at 1:45 PM on March 27, 2011


In conclusion I think we can all agree that Anthony Jeselnik sounds like the name of a Jerky Boys character.
posted by I Foody at 2:22 PM on March 27, 2011 [7 favorites]


In conclusion I think we can all agree that Anthony Jeselnik sounds like the name of a Jerky Boys character.

So, Dane Cook should sue for punitive damages?
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 2:39 PM on March 27, 2011 [1 favorite]


Just wanted to pop in and say that Anthony Jeselnik, on his own, is pretty much the best thing going right now.

Why? I don't get it. I've heard a lot of people say his performance on the Trump Roast was great, but all I heard was old jokes I'd heard on other roasts. Or felt like I had. (Not that I expect great things from a celeb roast, but I wasn't impressed.)
posted by graventy at 3:08 PM on March 27, 2011


Ike Barinholtz in that MadTV clip pretty much nails the juiced-up floor pacing, adolescent chest thumping and self-impressed camera mugging that really make up je ne sais quoi of Dane Cook.
posted by tula at 3:13 PM on March 27, 2011


Dane Cook is the stand-up equivalent of Limp Bizkit and it's been 1999 for way too fucking long now.
posted by Navelgazer at 3:39 PM on March 27, 2011 [11 favorites]


Dane Cook doesn't try to elicit laughs. Dane Cook tries to elicit nods. That's much easier than getting laughs -- Cook just wants to ignite that spark of "Yeah, I hate that TOO!" or "That TOTALLY happens to me!" Lots of comedians do this, but the good ones do this on their way to the joke, not as the joke itself. Cook's whole act is one long "nod along and smile, dudebro, we're all bros bein' bros, bro, isn't that right, bro? Huh? Huh? Isn't it?" Dane Cook makes Larry the Cable Guy look like Richard Pryor.

(That said, I didn't find Jeselnik all that funny, either. Probably because he was doing a Dane Cook impression.)
posted by BitterOldPunk at 3:41 PM on March 27, 2011 [6 favorites]


I suspect Dane Cook is delighted to be thought/talked about, positively or negatively.
posted by phearlez at 3:56 PM on March 27, 2011


There's no such thing as negative press, especially if you're Dane Cook.
posted by bwg at 4:52 PM on March 27, 2011


I kind of think Dane Cook doing that joke would have been funnier. This guy seems like a smug dick.
posted by Kraftmatic Adjustable Cheese at 5:14 PM on March 27, 2011 [1 favorite]


The Dane Cook impression? Whatever.

The roast was better; he really nailed Snoop Dogg.
posted by bwg at 5:37 PM on March 27, 2011


Dane Cook is the stand-up equivalent of Limp Bizkit and it's been 1999 for way too fucking long now.


What? Limp Bizkit isn't cool? Next you'll be saying that Nickelcrack are uncool. I wish there was an official list somewhere of what was cool and not cool so I could save myself all the embarrassment.
posted by greenhornet at 5:41 PM on March 27, 2011


Jeselnik's stand-up is great, but this was just "look how much better I am than Dane Cook", but without convincingly satisfying aforesaid premise.
posted by jeremy b at 5:45 PM on March 27, 2011


Hearing about Dane Cook makes me go "huh. I remember Tom Green, too, for some reason."

Don't really know why, though.
posted by DoctorFedora at 6:33 PM on March 27, 2011


I wish there was an official list somewhere of what was cool and not cool so I could save myself all the embarrassment.

There is an official Metafilter list and no, you can't save yourself any embarrassment.
Your favorite band sucks.
posted by ActingTheGoat at 7:01 PM on March 27, 2011


DoctorFedora: Hearing about Dane Cook makes me go "huh. I remember Tom Green, too, for some reason."

He married (or at least nailed) someone who was the Hollywood Famous Hot Chick but beer so I don't know.
posted by paisley henosis at 7:07 PM on March 27, 2011


I just finished watching the tribute to Greg Giraldo, and now I come to MeFi and people are talking about Dane Cook: can you get the bends when you're sitting at your computer?
posted by anothermug at 7:12 PM on March 27, 2011 [6 favorites]


Well, of course they're super hateful of him; comedy is the Holy Land for 'em because it is one of the few arenas where being a wry, bitter social outcast is celebrated.



Well, shit. At least we still have the internet.
posted by louche mustachio at 3:17 AM on March 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Tom Green interviews Fred Durst (of Limp Bizkit); Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5.
posted by phoque at 3:51 AM on March 28, 2011


Dane Cook makes Larry the Cable Guy look like Richard Pryor

Seriously. I knew of his schtick a little bit but I'd never actually seen a Cook performance until I clicked on the "Dane Cook - Atheists" link next to this video, and it was really, truly horrifying. It was basically a) make comedy as much like WWF wrestling as possible and b) pander pander pander. Only difference between him and Blue Collar Comedy is the lack of accent that precludes specifically pitching his act to southern states.
posted by anazgnos at 7:54 AM on March 28, 2011


when we do we open the box of worms about Cook's religious beliefs? As in: how much of Cook's (un)popularity is based on his open non-nihilism?

this is, after all, the punch line to the routine in the original post... no?
posted by victors at 9:26 AM on March 28, 2011


Odenkirk wins.

"Who's got a dad in here?"
posted by mrgrimm at 9:45 AM on March 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Tom Green was momentarily married to Drew Barrymore, forging an near-epic union of two people who you seemed almost bewildered at how everyone but you loved them when you only saw in them Fred Grimes levels of societal irritation.

Frank Grimes. (Or "Grimy," as he liked to be called.)
posted by Sys Rq at 9:59 AM on March 28, 2011


anazgnos: " I knew of his schtick a little bit but I'd never actually seen a Cook performance until I clicked on the "Dane Cook - Atheists" link next to this video, and it was really, truly horrifying."

That is terrible, right? That's not just me being an oversensitive atheist or anything, is it? I mean, beyond the strawman atheist he's talking about, it's just not funny at all.

Also, why is he performing on the set of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?
posted by brundlefly at 10:10 AM on March 28, 2011


That is terrible, right? That's not just me being an oversensitive atheist or anything, is it? I mean, beyond the strawman atheist he's talking about, it's just not funny at all.

I am not an atheist, and yeah, not very funny. It doesn't make sense for an atheist to be reincarnated as a tree, imo.
posted by mrgrimm at 11:50 AM on March 28, 2011


It doesn't make sense for an atheist to be reincarnated as a tree, imo.

He was just taking the pith.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:09 PM on March 28, 2011


So Close!: He was just taking the righteous pith.

Also didn't someone steal all of Dane Cook's money? Would cosmic justice provide proof about god?
posted by stratastar at 1:00 PM on March 28, 2011


Last Cosmic Standing.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 1:06 PM on March 28, 2011


Oh! Who's that blonde comic who's trying too hard to be the female Dane Cook? I'd link to a clip if only I could remember her name. She was a contestant on Last Comic Standing...?
posted by Sys Rq at 5:34 PM on March 28, 2011


I remembered: Iliza Schlesinger
posted by Sys Rq at 5:37 PM on March 28, 2011


how much of Cook's (un)popularity is based on his open non-nihilism?

Yes, I'm sure it's a cabal of wicked atheists conspiring to thwart his message of righteousness.

Or maybe he just isn't particularly funny.
posted by BitterOldPunk at 7:27 PM on March 28, 2011


Yes, I'm sure... he just isn't particularly funny.

damn, you read a lot into my question.

me? I figure there's a shit load of not-particularly-funny comedians out there beyond just this one guy - so maybe there's more to it, eh?

I also figure there's something in between a 'cabal of wicked' people acting in concert and a group of extremely self-expressed artists (with a predominantly similar view of god and religion) who jerk off at the chance to give a hyper-popular, physically fit and attractive comic any grief.
posted by victors at 9:11 PM on March 28, 2011


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