Mozart had some underground shit people don't know NUTHIN about.
August 31, 2011 8:46 AM Subscribe
Jack White has worked with everyone from Alicia Keys to Loretta Lynn to Brendan Benson to Alison Mossheart. His new single, "Leck Mich Im Arsch," utilizes a 230-year-old Mozart melody. Oh yeah, his co-conspirators on this one? MeFi favorites Insane Clown Posse.
Jesus, I thought this was an obit for a second. The dropping qualities of White Stripes albums be damned, Jack White is one of the single most talented musicians alive and deserves extra-double-praise for exposing me to Dolly Parton's "Jolene" (although I like her version a lot more than his.)
Leck mich im Arsch has its own Wikipedia entry, by the way.
posted by griphus at 8:51 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Leck mich im Arsch has its own Wikipedia entry, by the way.
posted by griphus at 8:51 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
exposing me to Dolly Parton's "Jolene"
Oh great, now I have an annoying song consisting of a single word running in my head.
posted by DU at 8:55 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Oh great, now I have an annoying song consisting of a single word running in my head.
posted by DU at 8:55 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Western culture has jumped the shark.
Winter is coming.
posted by Admiral Haddock at 8:56 AM on August 31, 2011 [8 favorites]
Winter is coming.
posted by Admiral Haddock at 8:56 AM on August 31, 2011 [8 favorites]
Borrrrrrrr-ing.
posted by Kitty Stardust at 8:56 AM on August 31, 2011
posted by Kitty Stardust at 8:56 AM on August 31, 2011
Here's the sheet music of the original, courtesy of the Neue Mozart Ausgabe being entirely online for free (hooray~)
posted by Thomas Tallis is my Homeboy at 8:56 AM on August 31, 2011 [3 favorites]
posted by Thomas Tallis is my Homeboy at 8:56 AM on August 31, 2011 [3 favorites]
The fact that there are no words to describe this may be the clearest proof that it was never meant to be. Burn it in fire.
posted by allen.spaulding at 8:57 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by allen.spaulding at 8:57 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Mozart really wrote a song called "Lick me in the ass"?
posted by empath at 8:58 AM on August 31, 2011 [6 favorites]
posted by empath at 8:58 AM on August 31, 2011 [6 favorites]
Western culture has jumped the shark.
What you talkin' bout some Western culture, shit, ass, sharks is mad cool.
posted by dhartung at 8:59 AM on August 31, 2011
What you talkin' bout some Western culture, shit, ass, sharks is mad cool.
posted by dhartung at 8:59 AM on August 31, 2011
Oh great, now I have an annoying song consisting of a single word running in my head.
So a few years ago I went on vacation and I stayed at a friend's apartment in Copenhagen. One night, her neighbor just started blasting Gary Jules' cover lf Mad World. On repeat for, like, twenty minutes. I hate, hate, hate that song. So, when he finished, I put on Jolene, full-blast, for at least as long.
posted by griphus at 9:00 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
So a few years ago I went on vacation and I stayed at a friend's apartment in Copenhagen. One night, her neighbor just started blasting Gary Jules' cover lf Mad World. On repeat for, like, twenty minutes. I hate, hate, hate that song. So, when he finished, I put on Jolene, full-blast, for at least as long.
posted by griphus at 9:00 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
Mozart really wrote a song called "Lick me in the ass"?
And another one named "Lick My Ass Well and Clean."
posted by kmz at 9:01 AM on August 31, 2011 [8 favorites]
And another one named "Lick My Ass Well and Clean."
posted by kmz at 9:01 AM on August 31, 2011 [8 favorites]
(Although that wasn't as bad as when someone dropped like thirty seconds of "Mad World" into a drum and bass mix at a party. What the fuck?)
posted by griphus at 9:02 AM on August 31, 2011
posted by griphus at 9:02 AM on August 31, 2011
That was terrible.
posted by hydrophonic at 9:03 AM on August 31, 2011
posted by hydrophonic at 9:03 AM on August 31, 2011
I have to admit I like the ICP piece better than Mozart's canon. Kills me to say so. Damn that Jack White to hell.
posted by jwhite1979 at 9:03 AM on August 31, 2011
posted by jwhite1979 at 9:03 AM on August 31, 2011
Gathering of the Juggalos is gonna be real interesting next year, I guess.
posted by mkultra at 9:04 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by mkultra at 9:04 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
The world is breaking.
posted by bionic.junkie at 9:05 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by bionic.junkie at 9:05 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
I can't be the only one who read this and thought of Spinal Tap.
posted by Johnny Assay at 9:07 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by Johnny Assay at 9:07 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
Cash grab.
posted by TheRedArmy at 9:12 AM on August 31, 2011
posted by TheRedArmy at 9:12 AM on August 31, 2011
This is so, so, so not my bag but I love Jack White even when he does terrible things. The world is a better place because of artists and thinkers like him.
posted by Kimberly at 9:13 AM on August 31, 2011 [3 favorites]
posted by Kimberly at 9:13 AM on August 31, 2011 [3 favorites]
I was hoping no one would post this article.
posted by Liquidwolf at 9:15 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by Liquidwolf at 9:15 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
I have to admit I like the ICP piece better than Mozart's canon. Kills me to say so. Damn that Jack White to hell.
posted by jwhite1979 at 11:03 AM on August 31 [+] [!]
Nice try, Jack!
posted by kmz at 9:16 AM on August 31, 2011 [12 favorites]
posted by jwhite1979 at 11:03 AM on August 31 [+] [!]
Nice try, Jack!
posted by kmz at 9:16 AM on August 31, 2011 [12 favorites]
Wow, Jack White is really slumming it now. Does he need the money?
posted by Liquidwolf at 9:16 AM on August 31, 2011
posted by Liquidwolf at 9:16 AM on August 31, 2011
Nigel Tufnel wasn't as ahead of his time as he thought, was he?
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:19 AM on August 31, 2011
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:19 AM on August 31, 2011
Yes. I have been waiting for ICP to elevate 18th century pop music. Thankfully, they have shown themselves to be of his calibre with inspiring lines like "Mozart... dope for the most part." Amazing.
Dear Jack, to quote the Buffett:
'When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for poor fundamental economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact.’
posted by nickrussell at 9:21 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Dear Jack, to quote the Buffett:
'When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for poor fundamental economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact.’
posted by nickrussell at 9:21 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
This piece was kinda a meme for a while on some of the darker corners of the internet, I wonder if it is Jack White or ICP who hangs out on 4chan. I like to think it is Jack White.
posted by Ad hominem at 9:21 AM on August 31, 2011
posted by Ad hominem at 9:21 AM on August 31, 2011
Nigel Tufnel wasn't as ahead of his time as he thought, was he?
Mr. White can't see that fine line in his rearview mirror.
posted by tommasz at 9:23 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Mr. White can't see that fine line in his rearview mirror.
posted by tommasz at 9:23 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Mozart really wrote a song called "Lick me in the ass"?
Mozart had a thing for shit.
posted by elsietheeel at 9:25 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Mozart had a thing for shit.
posted by elsietheeel at 9:25 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
This is just... What little credit I ever gave White is gone now. Yeah, the guy has incredible talent, but he has no taste. No sense of restraint or when he's just wanking into a sound recorder.
For the past years saying the White Stripes sucked was like saying Weezer sucked circa 2000. Best kept to yourself. But I'll say it now. The White Stripes sucked. They were the hipster Linkin Park. They wrote one sing and re-tooled it slightly for a few albums.
I guess what pisses me off about this is the obvious cynical cashing in. There is no possible way that Jack White or anyone else thinks that anyone at all would genuinely enjoy this. Is he just trying to see how far he can go and ex-hipster dandies will still pretend he's a genius? Does he really think that he's exposing Mozart to ICP fans, or that that would mean anything? Is this supposed to be funny?
Not only that, but it's phoned in. They didn't need Jack White to produce this. There's not a hell of a lot to produce. Mozart track, drum beat, and a few chords. I'll slap that shit together for you in Garage Band, Shaggy. Fuck, man. Maybe postmodernism really is over.
posted by cmoj at 9:32 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
For the past years saying the White Stripes sucked was like saying Weezer sucked circa 2000. Best kept to yourself. But I'll say it now. The White Stripes sucked. They were the hipster Linkin Park. They wrote one sing and re-tooled it slightly for a few albums.
I guess what pisses me off about this is the obvious cynical cashing in. There is no possible way that Jack White or anyone else thinks that anyone at all would genuinely enjoy this. Is he just trying to see how far he can go and ex-hipster dandies will still pretend he's a genius? Does he really think that he's exposing Mozart to ICP fans, or that that would mean anything? Is this supposed to be funny?
Not only that, but it's phoned in. They didn't need Jack White to produce this. There's not a hell of a lot to produce. Mozart track, drum beat, and a few chords. I'll slap that shit together for you in Garage Band, Shaggy. Fuck, man. Maybe postmodernism really is over.
posted by cmoj at 9:32 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
jwhite1979: “I have to admit I like the ICP piece better than Mozart's canon. Kills me to say so. Damn that Jack White to hell.”
Mozart wrote a number of canons, such as it is, but I have a feeling you're confusing him with Pachelbel.
posted by koeselitz at 9:32 AM on August 31, 2011
Mozart wrote a number of canons, such as it is, but I have a feeling you're confusing him with Pachelbel.
posted by koeselitz at 9:32 AM on August 31, 2011
In the future everyone will collaborate with Jack White for 15 minutes.
posted by lumpenprole at 9:33 AM on August 31, 2011 [4 favorites]
posted by lumpenprole at 9:33 AM on August 31, 2011 [4 favorites]
Metafilter: Two pigs wrestling over a Milk Dud
posted by chavenet at 9:39 AM on August 31, 2011 [4 favorites]
posted by chavenet at 9:39 AM on August 31, 2011 [4 favorites]
For the past years saying the White Stripes sucked was like saying Weezer sucked circa 2000. Best kept to yourself. But I'll say it now. The White Stripes sucked.
I was going to say "hey! They had a handful of good songs!" and defend them, but then I realized I was thinking about The Strokes.
Whoops.
posted by Theta States at 9:39 AM on August 31, 2011
I was going to say "hey! They had a handful of good songs!" and defend them, but then I realized I was thinking about The Strokes.
Whoops.
posted by Theta States at 9:39 AM on August 31, 2011
Wow, Jack White is really slumming it now. Does he need the money?
posted by Liquidwolf
something something Detroit natives something?
posted by Windigo at 9:41 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by Liquidwolf
something something Detroit natives something?
posted by Windigo at 9:41 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Is is me or is there a noticible uptick in hipser interest in ICP. First they were all doing expeditions to the Gathering of Juggalos to gawk, now this.
posted by Ad hominem at 9:44 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by Ad hominem at 9:44 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Mozart really wrote a song called "Lick me in the ass"?
Mozart - Leck mich im Arsch - Chorus Viennensis:
Lick me in the arse
Let us be glad!
Grumbling is in vain!
Growling, droning is in vain,
is the true bane of life,
Droning is in vain,
Growling, droning is in vain, in vain!
posted by yertledaturtle at 9:44 AM on August 31, 2011
Mozart - Leck mich im Arsch - Chorus Viennensis:
Lick me in the arse
Let us be glad!
Grumbling is in vain!
Growling, droning is in vain,
is the true bane of life,
Droning is in vain,
Growling, droning is in vain, in vain!
posted by yertledaturtle at 9:44 AM on August 31, 2011
I sort of like the element of the Juggalo subculture that doesn't care about outside opinion (of themselves), and just is what it wants to be without pretense or self-conciousness. I kinda respect that kind of self expression.
posted by hellojed at 9:48 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by hellojed at 9:48 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
jwhite1979: “I have to admit I like the ICP piece better than Mozart's canon. Kills me to say so. Damn that Jack White to hell.”
Mozart wrote a number of canons, such as it is, but I have a feeling you're confusing him with Pachelbel.
Why do you think I am confusing Mozart with Pachelbel? Did Pachelbel also write a canon called "Leck Mich Im Arsch"? If so, I hope his is better. Mozart's is rather irritating to my ear.
posted by jwhite1979 at 9:50 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
Mozart wrote a number of canons, such as it is, but I have a feeling you're confusing him with Pachelbel.
Why do you think I am confusing Mozart with Pachelbel? Did Pachelbel also write a canon called "Leck Mich Im Arsch"? If so, I hope his is better. Mozart's is rather irritating to my ear.
posted by jwhite1979 at 9:50 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
something something Detroit natives something?
Throw Andrew W.K. and Kid Rock into the mix and I think we might really have something* here.
*something even more terrible
posted by bionic.junkie at 9:51 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Throw Andrew W.K. and Kid Rock into the mix and I think we might really have something* here.
*something even more terrible
posted by bionic.junkie at 9:51 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Dear Jack, to quote the Buffett:
'When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for poor fundamental economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact.’ Jimmy never said that!
posted by wheelieman at 9:51 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
'When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for poor fundamental economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact.’ Jimmy never said that!
posted by wheelieman at 9:51 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Jack White for president.
posted by Sailormom at 9:56 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by Sailormom at 9:56 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
The White Stripes sucked. They were the hipster Linkin Park. They wrote one sing and re-tooled it slightly for a few albums.
If that's the criterion, who isn't the hipster Linkin Park?
posted by blucevalo at 9:58 AM on August 31, 2011
If that's the criterion, who isn't the hipster Linkin Park?
posted by blucevalo at 9:58 AM on August 31, 2011
Mozart had a thing for shit.
Are we going to drag that horrible Michael Lewis piece into this?
posted by Slothrup at 10:02 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Are we going to drag that horrible Michael Lewis piece into this?
posted by Slothrup at 10:02 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
I vote no.
posted by it's a long way to south america at 10:02 AM on August 31, 2011
posted by it's a long way to south america at 10:02 AM on August 31, 2011
I'll slap that shit together for you in Garage Band, Shaggy.
Put up or shut up.
posted by Sailormom at 10:07 AM on August 31, 2011
Put up or shut up.
posted by Sailormom at 10:07 AM on August 31, 2011
This could be Jack White's "Mary had a little lamb."
posted by zzazazz at 10:07 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by zzazazz at 10:07 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
They wrote one sing and re-tooled it slightly for a few albums.
Which one, Fell in Love With a Girl or the Hotel Yorba Linda or Seven Nation Army? Or is this going to come down to the Secret Meg White Haters Society again?
something something Detroit natives something?
Yup. ICP and Jack White both love them some home-town talent, and both take pains to develop local acts.
Is is me or is there a noticible uptick in hipser interest in ICP. First they were all doing expeditions to the Gathering of Juggalos to gawk, now this.
There's a backlash against exclusive subcultures. The interesting stuff is happening in groups where everyone is welcome, regardless of their individual refinement in taste or first-mover status. That said, there's not much worth listening to except The Great Milenko.
posted by Slap*Happy at 10:09 AM on August 31, 2011
Which one, Fell in Love With a Girl or the Hotel Yorba Linda or Seven Nation Army? Or is this going to come down to the Secret Meg White Haters Society again?
something something Detroit natives something?
Yup. ICP and Jack White both love them some home-town talent, and both take pains to develop local acts.
Is is me or is there a noticible uptick in hipser interest in ICP. First they were all doing expeditions to the Gathering of Juggalos to gawk, now this.
There's a backlash against exclusive subcultures. The interesting stuff is happening in groups where everyone is welcome, regardless of their individual refinement in taste or first-mover status. That said, there's not much worth listening to except The Great Milenko.
posted by Slap*Happy at 10:09 AM on August 31, 2011
cmoj: They wrote one sing and re-tooled it slightly for a few albums.
Wait, what? I always thought they kept pushing each album in new directions. I guess De Stijl and White Blood Cells had the same pop sound, but they were distinct from the lo-fi garage sound of their eponymous debut and the slick grunge sound of Elephant. And Get Behind Me Satan and Icky Thump sounded nothing like anything in their back catalog. Way to go out on a limb and be all iconoclast. I dig that, but I don't understand the remark.
posted by jwhite1979 at 10:11 AM on August 31, 2011 [7 favorites]
Wait, what? I always thought they kept pushing each album in new directions. I guess De Stijl and White Blood Cells had the same pop sound, but they were distinct from the lo-fi garage sound of their eponymous debut and the slick grunge sound of Elephant. And Get Behind Me Satan and Icky Thump sounded nothing like anything in their back catalog. Way to go out on a limb and be all iconoclast. I dig that, but I don't understand the remark.
posted by jwhite1979 at 10:11 AM on August 31, 2011 [7 favorites]
Do you really doubt someone's ability to make a track that sounds like this one? Really?
I doubt he/she will actually do it. It's much easier to to type one's intent on the internet then actually follow through and put in the effort to back up a claim made. In other words, it's just empty bitching.
posted by Sailormom at 10:17 AM on August 31, 2011
I doubt he/she will actually do it. It's much easier to to type one's intent on the internet then actually follow through and put in the effort to back up a claim made. In other words, it's just empty bitching.
posted by Sailormom at 10:17 AM on August 31, 2011
MAN I ALMOST LIKED JACK WHITE WHEN HE WAS ALL SERIOUS BUT NOW HE DID SOMETHING SILLY AND I HATE HIM. ALSO, FUCK HIPSTERS.
posted by Joey Michaels at 10:19 AM on August 31, 2011 [11 favorites]
posted by Joey Michaels at 10:19 AM on August 31, 2011 [11 favorites]
Hell yeah, can we somehow get Jack White to do a GarageBand retool of Punch 'em in the dick?
I will contribute.
posted by Ad hominem at 10:25 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
I will contribute.
posted by Ad hominem at 10:25 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
The "Leck mich im Arsch" thing is a reference to one of the most badassed knights that ever badassed, Götz of the Iron Hand. Who, obviously, had an iron hand. Because his real one was blown off by a cannonball.
posted by vorfeed at 10:25 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by vorfeed at 10:25 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
I just can't.
posted by 200burritos at 10:27 AM on August 31, 2011
posted by 200burritos at 10:27 AM on August 31, 2011
You can tell he was badass just by the metal umlaut.
posted by Babblesort at 10:29 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by Babblesort at 10:29 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
Sometimes I like to imagine going back in time with an iPod and playing something like this for Mozart or dropping some Thelonious Monk on Bach to see how they'd react.
Of course, I'd probably just get burned at the stake for being a wizard, but these are the sorts of things I daydream about because I am a huge nerd
posted by The Card Cheat at 10:32 AM on August 31, 2011 [5 favorites]
Of course, I'd probably just get burned at the stake for being a wizard, but these are the sorts of things I daydream about because I am a huge nerd
posted by The Card Cheat at 10:32 AM on August 31, 2011 [5 favorites]
I find the haters kinda hilarious in a sad way. While I don't really dig this piece so much, it doesn't take away from my enjoyment of Jack White in general. I mean, I love me some Mike Patton, but Adult Themes for Voice isn't exactly in regular rotation on my mp3 player. Good artists experiment with their media of choice. Its how one grows and keeps from becoming stagnant. Part of experimentation involves occasionally putting out something that not everyone will enjoy.
posted by mysterpigg at 10:38 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by mysterpigg at 10:38 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
I've always hated Jack White for being a pretentious douche, but this makes me like him a little bit.
Even though (or perhaps, because) it's kind of terrible.
posted by brand-gnu at 10:45 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Even though (or perhaps, because) it's kind of terrible.
posted by brand-gnu at 10:45 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Wow, what fucking idiots. All of them. Total, fucking, crap.
posted by ReeMonster at 10:49 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by ReeMonster at 10:49 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Sometimes I like to imagine going back in time with an iPod and playing something like this for Mozart or dropping some Thelonious Monk on Bach to see how they'd react.
Mozart in Mirrorshades from the book of short stories Mirrorshades: The Cyberpunk Anthology .
posted by Babblesort at 10:50 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
Mozart in Mirrorshades from the book of short stories Mirrorshades: The Cyberpunk Anthology .
posted by Babblesort at 10:50 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
Slight derail, but due to my mishearing something in that track, from now on, the composer of the Eroica Symphony and the Ode to Joy shall honceforth be known in my house as "Beef Oven".
Carry on.
posted by LN at 10:55 AM on August 31, 2011
Carry on.
posted by LN at 10:55 AM on August 31, 2011
So, ICP is pretty trashy and not my thing. I'm not terribly interested in listening to the clip.
But remixing and playing with music is great, and I'm glad that people do things like this. It's valuable!
Even better, now I'm going to spend my entire lunch hour reading about the relationship between Mozart and scatology, which is somewhat unexpected and brightening up my day noticeably.
It's all in how you frame it I guess.
posted by Stagger Lee at 10:56 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
But remixing and playing with music is great, and I'm glad that people do things like this. It's valuable!
Even better, now I'm going to spend my entire lunch hour reading about the relationship between Mozart and scatology, which is somewhat unexpected and brightening up my day noticeably.
It's all in how you frame it I guess.
posted by Stagger Lee at 10:56 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
Simply bad beyond all infinite dimensions of possible badness.
Well maybe it wasn't that bad, but Lord, it wasn't good.
posted by norm at 11:13 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
Well maybe it wasn't that bad, but Lord, it wasn't good.
posted by norm at 11:13 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
Wow, what fucking idiots. All of them. Total, fucking, crap.
posted by ReeMonster at 10:49 AM on August 31 [+] [!]
I mean, I understand you thinking Mozart is shit, but ICP? Really? I think you may be overreacting.
posted by FatherDagon at 11:37 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by ReeMonster at 10:49 AM on August 31 [+] [!]
I mean, I understand you thinking Mozart is shit, but ICP? Really? I think you may be overreacting.
posted by FatherDagon at 11:37 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
For the past years saying the White Stripes sucked was like saying Weezer sucked circa 2000. Best kept to yourself. But I'll say it now. The White Stripes sucked. They were the hipster Linkin Park. They wrote one sing and re-tooled it slightly for a few albums.
Why was it "best kept to yourself" to say the White Stripes sucked if they really sucked? Silence =death the perpetuation of shitty trends because no one wants to be the first one to note the Emperor has no clothes on, and is making terrible music?
posted by Uther Bentrazor at 11:44 AM on August 31, 2011
Why was it "best kept to yourself" to say the White Stripes sucked if they really sucked? Silence =
posted by Uther Bentrazor at 11:44 AM on August 31, 2011
Huh, Jack White making derivative music. What a surprise. I wish there was a way to remove him from "This Might Get Loud".
That being said. I do loves me some White Stripes. Some.
posted by humboldt32 at 11:58 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
That being said. I do loves me some White Stripes. Some.
posted by humboldt32 at 11:58 AM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Jack White is a brilliant producer who knows how to make really simple music sound amazing. That's no small talent. And the fact that White Stripes makes simple songs is no knock on the White Stripes, IMO.
posted by empath at 12:04 PM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by empath at 12:04 PM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Also: Seven Nation Army is the rare rock song that you can play on almost any dance floor un-remixed and get or keep people moving. The barely touched Adam Freeland remix was one of my secret weapons for a long time.
posted by empath at 12:07 PM on August 31, 2011
posted by empath at 12:07 PM on August 31, 2011
As an educated person it pains me to admit THIS... IS... AWESOME!!
posted by smackwich at 12:28 PM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by smackwich at 12:28 PM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
I am waiting for the Gary Numan / Joanna Newsom joint.
I have written several detailed letters to each of them, and have yet to hear back.
I'm all, "I'm thinking Spenser by way of J.G. Ballard"
posted by everichon at 12:30 PM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
I have written several detailed letters to each of them, and have yet to hear back.
I'm all, "I'm thinking Spenser by way of J.G. Ballard"
posted by everichon at 12:30 PM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
I have to use a filter on Mr. White, but what comes through is absolute gold. ICP didn't make it through.
posted by incandissonance at 12:33 PM on August 31, 2011
posted by incandissonance at 12:33 PM on August 31, 2011
I didn't think this was so bad. And quite honestly, on paper, this was a brilliant concept in it's outrageousness, practically designed to offend. White's credibility goes up with me on this one; like David Byrne, or Peter Gabriel dude seems willing to try all kinds of new things whether he thinks you will like it or not.
Of course, I worship the ground he walks on. For distilling the sheer essence of rock and roll and executing it flawlessly. Think all his songs sound like the same thing re-tooled? That's just the sound of the same three chords resonating through 60 years of pop music. And he still makes it sound gut-punchingly fresh.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 12:34 PM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
Of course, I worship the ground he walks on. For distilling the sheer essence of rock and roll and executing it flawlessly. Think all his songs sound like the same thing re-tooled? That's just the sound of the same three chords resonating through 60 years of pop music. And he still makes it sound gut-punchingly fresh.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 12:34 PM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
Funny. Ridiculous. Brilliant. I hate it and do not respect it.
posted by From Bklyn at 1:19 PM on August 31, 2011
posted by From Bklyn at 1:19 PM on August 31, 2011
Jack White is a musician's musician. Anyone who plays even a bit of guitar has to appreciate and respect how he held that duo together with just a guitar and his voice. Meg's not exactly Bonham, either, though she's not as bad as some people think. I saw them play a packed, sweaty club in Barcelona in 2005 and I was really impressed.
I will always have immense respect for the White Stripes for touring Canada and visiting every province and territory during their time here. They played Iqaluit, for fuck's sake. They will always be a class act as far as I'm concerned.
posted by jimmythefish at 1:22 PM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
I will always have immense respect for the White Stripes for touring Canada and visiting every province and territory during their time here. They played Iqaluit, for fuck's sake. They will always be a class act as far as I'm concerned.
posted by jimmythefish at 1:22 PM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]
I was going to say I liked this, until I realized that what I liked about it was the Mozart melody. I could just listen to Mozart for that, no scatalogical lyrics or ICP necessary. Although I did like the part at the beginning, when they were talking about Mozart and Beef Oven.
As for the White Stripes... I just started learning to play the drums. I have had two lessons. I can play the drum part on Seven Nation Army already. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
Yes I am. Good thing. Because after practicing grooves over and over, it's fun to play along with music.
posted by cereselle at 2:05 PM on August 31, 2011
As for the White Stripes... I just started learning to play the drums. I have had two lessons. I can play the drum part on Seven Nation Army already. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
Yes I am. Good thing. Because after practicing grooves over and over, it's fun to play along with music.
posted by cereselle at 2:05 PM on August 31, 2011
This song is fine, but I feel like the OMG NOW I HATE JACK WHITE comments are way over the top. I think it's great that Jack White works with all kinds of artists, not just Pitchfork-approved luminaries. I seem to remember the Beatles turning in quite a few clunkers. I dunno, it seems like these days we have these approved rock gods who we look to to do no wrong and when they move afoul of the consensus people have this crisis of faith.
posted by GilloD at 2:09 PM on August 31, 2011
posted by GilloD at 2:09 PM on August 31, 2011
The thing about the White Stripes is, they were pretty damn good studio artists and songwriters who sucked ass live. Either that or they were a terrible band who wrote and recorded a few great albums basically by accident.
I mean, the albums are incredibly varied and interesting — especially given how minimal and low-fi everything is. (Check out Saint James Infirmary, Forever for Her, I Can Tell That We're Gonna Be Friends, or the aforementioned Jolene.) But onstage it all seemed to get flattened out into homogenous Blooze Rawk. And once they started getting airplay they chose singles with that same sort of impenetrable bludgeoning sound.
Also I've always liked Meg White's drumming. But that may be more about place and time. I grew up in SE Michigan. The year I was 19, that entire summer just sounded like "THUD... whack! ...THUD... whack," and now I can't help but find it totally charming.
posted by nebulawindphone at 2:29 PM on August 31, 2011
I mean, the albums are incredibly varied and interesting — especially given how minimal and low-fi everything is. (Check out Saint James Infirmary, Forever for Her, I Can Tell That We're Gonna Be Friends, or the aforementioned Jolene.) But onstage it all seemed to get flattened out into homogenous Blooze Rawk. And once they started getting airplay they chose singles with that same sort of impenetrable bludgeoning sound.
Also I've always liked Meg White's drumming. But that may be more about place and time. I grew up in SE Michigan. The year I was 19, that entire summer just sounded like "THUD... whack! ...THUD... whack," and now I can't help but find it totally charming.
posted by nebulawindphone at 2:29 PM on August 31, 2011
Yeah, Detroit has long been a home to quality music.
posted by DaddyNewt at 4:31 PM on August 31, 2011
posted by DaddyNewt at 4:31 PM on August 31, 2011
The thing about the White Stripes is, they were pretty damn good studio artists and songwriters who sucked ass live. Either that or they were a terrible band who wrote and recorded a few great albums basically by accident.
More that the production on their albums is flawless and you don't have that much control live.
posted by empath at 4:36 PM on August 31, 2011
More that the production on their albums is flawless and you don't have that much control live.
posted by empath at 4:36 PM on August 31, 2011
Bizarre... yesterday I was joking about Jack White teaming with Eminem because they're both from Detroit.
The thing about the White Stripes is, they were pretty damn good studio artists and songwriters who sucked ass live. Either that or they were a terrible band who wrote and recorded a few great albums basically by accident.
Huh? The one time I saw them live - in a huge arena - I was so keyed up I couldn't sleep all night. Jack White is the only true modern rock star, a man who decided he would be Dylan + Johnny Depp and went for it. Hotel Yorba is brilliant pop. Pretty much every song on White Blood Cells is great. He merged twee and garage and for a few brief years saved rock and roll.
Now he's turned his back on that, working with The Kills and doing stupid jokes like this. I hate it.
I once RPed the son of Jack and Meg in a forum. His name was Raygun and he was basically Jerry Cornelius.
I saw someone at a festival who looked like Meg and so I came up with the idea that Jack and Meg lived in the North Pole and controlled robot duplicates.
I wish the real Jack White would return.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 5:37 PM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
The thing about the White Stripes is, they were pretty damn good studio artists and songwriters who sucked ass live. Either that or they were a terrible band who wrote and recorded a few great albums basically by accident.
Huh? The one time I saw them live - in a huge arena - I was so keyed up I couldn't sleep all night. Jack White is the only true modern rock star, a man who decided he would be Dylan + Johnny Depp and went for it. Hotel Yorba is brilliant pop. Pretty much every song on White Blood Cells is great. He merged twee and garage and for a few brief years saved rock and roll.
Now he's turned his back on that, working with The Kills and doing stupid jokes like this. I hate it.
I once RPed the son of Jack and Meg in a forum. His name was Raygun and he was basically Jerry Cornelius.
I saw someone at a festival who looked like Meg and so I came up with the idea that Jack and Meg lived in the North Pole and controlled robot duplicates.
I wish the real Jack White would return.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 5:37 PM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
This is just... What little credit I ever gave White is gone now. Yeah, the guy has incredible talent, but he has no taste. No sense of restraint or when he's just wanking into a sound recorder.
Fuck restraint. It has no place in rock and roll.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 5:37 PM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Fuck restraint. It has no place in rock and roll.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 5:37 PM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Well, there goes my concept for a "Leck Mich Im Arsch" cover-song. I had thought that nobody else had heard of it. Now I can go back to scheming about other stuff.
posted by ovvl at 6:17 PM on August 31, 2011
posted by ovvl at 6:17 PM on August 31, 2011
"Call it a fetish
Call him a freak
Call him in need of a tongue on his butt cheeks"
This is funny as hell, thanks for posting.
On ICP: I'm not a fan but I respect their marketing savvy and the never-surrender work ethic that elevated them to this weird place in pop culture.
On Jack White: Lighten up, he doesn't owe you anything.
On JEFF The Brotherhood (who did the rock backing tracks): They are a fun band and you should check 'em out.
On Mozart: Somehow I think he would have really enjoyed ICP.
posted by chaff at 7:30 PM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
Call him a freak
Call him in need of a tongue on his butt cheeks"
This is funny as hell, thanks for posting.
On ICP: I'm not a fan but I respect their marketing savvy and the never-surrender work ethic that elevated them to this weird place in pop culture.
On Jack White: Lighten up, he doesn't owe you anything.
On JEFF The Brotherhood (who did the rock backing tracks): They are a fun band and you should check 'em out.
On Mozart: Somehow I think he would have really enjoyed ICP.
posted by chaff at 7:30 PM on August 31, 2011 [1 favorite]
It's actually not a very good performance by ICP, lacking their trademark over-the-top screaming intensity and razor-sharp timing, which is really the only reason to listen to them if they're not doing their horrorcore/comedy thing.
White's guitar riff was fan-fucking-tastic, tho. The man can summon a hook like no-one's business.
posted by Slap*Happy at 7:39 PM on August 31, 2011
White's guitar riff was fan-fucking-tastic, tho. The man can summon a hook like no-one's business.
posted by Slap*Happy at 7:39 PM on August 31, 2011
I like Jack White, I like the lack of restraint, and I think the worst thing for him to do would be to latch on to some formula that I or anyone else likes and stick with it.
On the other hand, this was straight-up moronic. Hmm.
posted by Durn Bronzefist at 9:16 PM on August 31, 2011
On the other hand, this was straight-up moronic. Hmm.
posted by Durn Bronzefist at 9:16 PM on August 31, 2011
On JEFF The Brotherhood (who did the rock backing tracks): They are a fun band and you should check 'em out yt .
yeah I saw them last year with Those Darlins. Fun band.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 9:21 PM on August 31, 2011
yeah I saw them last year with Those Darlins. Fun band.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 9:21 PM on August 31, 2011
"Oh, Jack's stripped guitar playing is AMAZING! GENIUS! So incredible that it is so SIMPLE yet it WORKS!!! You can tell how much restraint he's using. It just shines through. God, what an idea. He clearly restricted his natural talent so that he could expend all of his energy being incredible at everything he does. The drumming, though...too simple. Way too simple. Can Meg even play? She's no Jon Bonham!"
posted by 200burritos at 11:24 AM on September 1, 2011
posted by 200burritos at 11:24 AM on September 1, 2011
I'm thinking Jack white had a thing for the Fabulous Stains
posted by Sailormom at 5:27 PM on September 1, 2011
posted by Sailormom at 5:27 PM on September 1, 2011
Oh, who cares. Jack White is awesome, ICP is hilarious, and everyone likes to get angry about something every once in a while. If you can't see that this is hilarious, you need a nap.
posted by V4V at 5:43 PM on September 1, 2011
posted by V4V at 5:43 PM on September 1, 2011
I'm wearing my White Stripes shirt today, because it is Friday and I might end up at a gig after work. And this makes said shirt much less cool.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 5:44 PM on September 1, 2011
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 5:44 PM on September 1, 2011
I've never seen anyone wearing a White Stripes shirt and thought, 'hey that guy is COOL.' Just sayin'.
posted by mike_bling at 6:02 PM on September 1, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by mike_bling at 6:02 PM on September 1, 2011 [1 favorite]
My name is [Insane Clown Posse] and I'm here to say, I like [Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart] in a major way
WORD
posted by speicus at 12:24 PM on September 4, 2011 [1 favorite]
WORD
posted by speicus at 12:24 PM on September 4, 2011 [1 favorite]
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Seriously, I love everything this guy does, but this time: DO NOT WANT!
posted by cjorgensen at 8:50 AM on August 31, 2011 [2 favorites]