The latest (and greatest?) New World Trade Center visualization video
September 22, 2011 8:30 AM Subscribe
The latest (and greatest?) New World Trade Center visualization video. Silverstein Properties recently released footage of the construction and a visualization of the finished New World Trade Center. WTC Tower 1(Freedom Tower) is slated to be finished in early 2013 and it will mark another chapter in the ever evolving Manhattan skyline.
If you think of Freedom in the pejorative it's actually a fitting name for a building full of bankers.
posted by any major dude at 8:45 AM on September 22, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by any major dude at 8:45 AM on September 22, 2011 [2 favorites]
It looks like it will be a beautiful building,I look forward to seeing it in person som day.
posted by Jaymzifer at 8:50 AM on September 22, 2011
posted by Jaymzifer at 8:50 AM on September 22, 2011
...a building full of bankers.
That's kind of like hanging a big red target on the side of the place, isn't it?
posted by Thorzdad at 8:57 AM on September 22, 2011
That's kind of like hanging a big red target on the side of the place, isn't it?
posted by Thorzdad at 8:57 AM on September 22, 2011
This NOVA on "The Engineering of Ground Zero" was interesting. I could have watched another hour of that.
posted by theredpen at 9:01 AM on September 22, 2011 [3 favorites]
posted by theredpen at 9:01 AM on September 22, 2011 [3 favorites]
Skyscraper construction still looks pretty low-tech at the worker level. Other than the switch from rivets to bolts, the construction process doesn't look much different than it would have sixty or seventy years ago. I was watching a show about the construction a few weeks ago and a lot of the workers are still Mohawks.
posted by octothorpe at 9:09 AM on September 22, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by octothorpe at 9:09 AM on September 22, 2011 [2 favorites]
The video depicts a WTC site that isn't clogged thick with hundreds clueless tourists. I want to work there, instead of where I'm working now.
posted by 1970s Antihero at 9:15 AM on September 22, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by 1970s Antihero at 9:15 AM on September 22, 2011 [2 favorites]
a lot of the workers are still Mohawks
See Joseph Mitchell's "The Mohawks in High Steel" (1949).
posted by Trurl at 9:16 AM on September 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
See Joseph Mitchell's "The Mohawks in High Steel" (1949).
posted by Trurl at 9:16 AM on September 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
Trurl: It's disingenuous to complain about the "mawkish banality" of a name that isn't even being used.
The comment was 'I wonder why it's no longer being used'. It wasn't a complaint as far as I read it.
posted by spicynuts at 9:18 AM on September 22, 2011
The comment was 'I wonder why it's no longer being used'. It wasn't a complaint as far as I read it.
posted by spicynuts at 9:18 AM on September 22, 2011
Other than the switch from rivets to bolts, the construction process doesn't look much different than it would have sixty or seventy years ago.
Isn't there a lot more concrete nowadays? Like more than zero?
posted by smackfu at 9:20 AM on September 22, 2011
Isn't there a lot more concrete nowadays? Like more than zero?
posted by smackfu at 9:20 AM on September 22, 2011
It's disingenuous to complain about the "mawkish banality" of a name that isn't even being used.
Its presence in the text of the FPP doesn't count?
As for 1,776 feet, I'd go with "trite".
posted by Trurl at 9:22 AM on September 22, 2011 [2 favorites]
Its presence in the text of the FPP doesn't count?
As for 1,776 feet, I'd go with "trite".
posted by Trurl at 9:22 AM on September 22, 2011 [2 favorites]
The only thing that tends to change in these renders is that design of the antenna donut thingie at the top.
As far as the actual building, I think they are supposed to top out the steel by the end of the year. A bit later and the glass will be completed and it will be done to the average viewer.
posted by smackfu at 9:26 AM on September 22, 2011
As far as the actual building, I think they are supposed to top out the steel by the end of the year. A bit later and the glass will be completed and it will be done to the average viewer.
posted by smackfu at 9:26 AM on September 22, 2011
any major dude: "a building full of bankers."
I laughed when, about halfway through the video, all the builders disappeared and were replaced by well-groomed upper-class types in suits.
T'other half suggested they were the same people, and the tower was built by business executives as a team-building exercise.
posted by ArmyOfKittens at 9:31 AM on September 22, 2011 [2 favorites]
I laughed when, about halfway through the video, all the builders disappeared and were replaced by well-groomed upper-class types in suits.
T'other half suggested they were the same people, and the tower was built by business executives as a team-building exercise.
posted by ArmyOfKittens at 9:31 AM on September 22, 2011 [2 favorites]
That YouTube video cost more than I make in a decade.
posted by wcfields at 9:35 AM on September 22, 2011
posted by wcfields at 9:35 AM on September 22, 2011
all the builders disappeared and were replaced by well-groomed upper-class types in suits.
Once the work is done it's time for the actual trickle-down.
posted by spicynuts at 9:46 AM on September 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
Once the work is done it's time for the actual trickle-down.
posted by spicynuts at 9:46 AM on September 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
Conde Naste is one of the major tenants, moving from Times Square, so there will definitely be some very well groomed types.
posted by smackfu at 10:02 AM on September 22, 2011
posted by smackfu at 10:02 AM on September 22, 2011
T'other half suggested they were the same people, and the tower was built by business executives as a team-building exercise.
That would not be a building I would recommend anyone going anywhere near.
posted by winna at 10:03 AM on September 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
That would not be a building I would recommend anyone going anywhere near.
posted by winna at 10:03 AM on September 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
I like the Freedom Conference Table and the Freedom Leather Chairs at the end. I was disturbed though at the lobby shot. I really really really hope it's not going to be as anti-spetic and cold and the previous one.
posted by spicynuts at 10:06 AM on September 22, 2011
posted by spicynuts at 10:06 AM on September 22, 2011
Another mirrored skyscraper. THis one with beveled edges. Could they not bother at least using *some* design elements that take cues from the original?
posted by notsnot at 10:28 AM on September 22, 2011
posted by notsnot at 10:28 AM on September 22, 2011
Damn guys, it is just a building. And this is just a publicity video to land leasers. 50 years from now nobody will even remember enough about these times to consider it a symbol of "mawkish banality" or some sort of fuck yeah Americuh statement. Most of America hates New York and don't consider us to be real Americans so I would appreciate it if you don't include New York in your who hates America most contest.
posted by Ad hominem at 10:31 AM on September 22, 2011
posted by Ad hominem at 10:31 AM on September 22, 2011
Could they not bother at least using *some* design elements that take cues from the original?
I think when it's up to the 50 story mark it may be a little late for the design critiques.
posted by smackfu at 10:33 AM on September 22, 2011
I think when it's up to the 50 story mark it may be a little late for the design critiques.
posted by smackfu at 10:33 AM on September 22, 2011
What do you call the style that looks like brutalism, but with glass?
posted by blue_beetle at 10:36 AM on September 22, 2011
posted by blue_beetle at 10:36 AM on September 22, 2011
Brittle-ism.
posted by xod at 10:38 AM on September 22, 2011 [5 favorites]
posted by xod at 10:38 AM on September 22, 2011 [5 favorites]
What do you call the style that looks like brutalism, but with glass??i>
Brutass.
posted by spicynuts at 10:39 AM on September 22, 2011
I'm adding "One World Trade Center" to the list of topics about which I am uninterested in hearing non-locals opine.
Let's not turn this into a 9/11 dick measuring contest. It's a piece of architecture. People are allowed to have opinions. Besides, someone is bound to come along with a bigger 9/11 cock than you who has an opinion you don't like. Then what are you gonna do?
posted by spicynuts at 10:41 AM on September 22, 2011 [3 favorites]
Let's not turn this into a 9/11 dick measuring contest. It's a piece of architecture. People are allowed to have opinions. Besides, someone is bound to come along with a bigger 9/11 cock than you who has an opinion you don't like. Then what are you gonna do?
posted by spicynuts at 10:41 AM on September 22, 2011 [3 favorites]
I'm adding "One World Trade Center" to the list of topics about which I am uninterested in hearing non-locals opine.
You might not wish to hear it, but I love NYC and am sorry about what is being done to it. So it goes.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 10:44 AM on September 22, 2011 [2 favorites]
You might not wish to hear it, but I love NYC and am sorry about what is being done to it. So it goes.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 10:44 AM on September 22, 2011 [2 favorites]
I'm adding "One World Trade Center" to the list of topics about which I am uninterested in hearing non-locals opine.
They warned me you New Yorkers were feisty!
posted by Trurl at 10:45 AM on September 22, 2011
They warned me you New Yorkers were feisty!
posted by Trurl at 10:45 AM on September 22, 2011
I think when it's up to the 50 story mark it may be a little late for the design critiques.
When something has 50 floors, it's no longer ugly?
posted by scrowdid at 10:48 AM on September 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
When something has 50 floors, it's no longer ugly?
posted by scrowdid at 10:48 AM on September 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
Other than the switch from rivets to bolts, the construction process doesn't look much different than it would have sixty or seventy years ago.
Isn't there a lot more concrete nowadays? Like more than zero?
Not really, but it depends on the building design. Concrete, especially in a really tall building, adds a whole lot of weight that's not necessarily needed for structural strength or fireproofing, and it takes up more space than other available materials. In a structure like the WTC, I'd pretty much expect concrete to only be used at the lower levels and foundation, and then just for a floor topping slab on top of corrugated metal decking for all the floor plates, and even that would only be a couple inches thick. That was pretty much the case with the old towers, as far as I understand.
Fireproofing is instead provided by gypsum board or spray-on fireproofing which normally works great, but can be dislodged from its intended location by airplane impact.
posted by LionIndex at 10:54 AM on September 22, 2011
Isn't there a lot more concrete nowadays? Like more than zero?
Not really, but it depends on the building design. Concrete, especially in a really tall building, adds a whole lot of weight that's not necessarily needed for structural strength or fireproofing, and it takes up more space than other available materials. In a structure like the WTC, I'd pretty much expect concrete to only be used at the lower levels and foundation, and then just for a floor topping slab on top of corrugated metal decking for all the floor plates, and even that would only be a couple inches thick. That was pretty much the case with the old towers, as far as I understand.
Fireproofing is instead provided by gypsum board or spray-on fireproofing which normally works great, but can be dislodged from its intended location by airplane impact.
posted by LionIndex at 10:54 AM on September 22, 2011
Photogrammetry ... √
Fake shift / tilt miniaturization ... √
Overlay color vignettes ... √
CG lens flares ... √
Stop motion ... √
Live action posterize time ... √
Greenscreen foreground comped with matte paintings... √
AND THEY SAID IT COULD'T BE DONE IN ONE VIDEO
posted by nathancaswell at 10:57 AM on September 22, 2011 [3 favorites]
Fake shift / tilt miniaturization ... √
Overlay color vignettes ... √
CG lens flares ... √
Stop motion ... √
Live action posterize time ... √
Greenscreen foreground comped with matte paintings... √
AND THEY SAID IT COULD'T BE DONE IN ONE VIDEO
posted by nathancaswell at 10:57 AM on September 22, 2011 [3 favorites]
In a structure like the WTC, I'd pretty much expect concrete to only be used at the lower levels and foundation, and then just for a floor topping slab...
There are essentially two ways to configure a tall building to resist lateral forces.
The old WTC towers were "tube" or "rigid perimeter" designs. That is, their stiffness resided in the tightly spaced perimeter columns. The service and circulation cores of the towers were light-weight. This was a relatively new idea at the time of their construction. Tall building tube structures were first developed by Fazlur Kahn of SOM in the early 60s.
The new WTC uses the older tall building configuration, a "rigid core." The steel frame that surrounds the core is not "stiff" in terms of resisting lateral forces, the concrete core provides the building's stiffness. The new WTC tower uses an extraordinary amount of high-strength concrete at it's service core and is also much thicker than structural physics require. It is designed to withstand the impact of an airliner.
posted by xod at 11:25 AM on September 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
There are essentially two ways to configure a tall building to resist lateral forces.
The old WTC towers were "tube" or "rigid perimeter" designs. That is, their stiffness resided in the tightly spaced perimeter columns. The service and circulation cores of the towers were light-weight. This was a relatively new idea at the time of their construction. Tall building tube structures were first developed by Fazlur Kahn of SOM in the early 60s.
The new WTC uses the older tall building configuration, a "rigid core." The steel frame that surrounds the core is not "stiff" in terms of resisting lateral forces, the concrete core provides the building's stiffness. The new WTC tower uses an extraordinary amount of high-strength concrete at it's service core and is also much thicker than structural physics require. It is designed to withstand the impact of an airliner.
posted by xod at 11:25 AM on September 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
50 years from now nobody will even remember enough about these times to consider it a symbol of "mawkish banality" or some sort of fuck yeah Americuh statement. Most of America hat New York and don't consider us to be real Americans so I would appreciate it if you don't include New York in your who hates America most contest.
I'll let Arthur C. Clarke handle the perspective from 2061. In a discussion being held today, on the subject of a building identified by the author of the post as "Freedom Tower", exposure to potential commentary on that name is a risk you'll need to take.
posted by Trurl at 11:27 AM on September 22, 2011
I'll let Arthur C. Clarke handle the perspective from 2061. In a discussion being held today, on the subject of a building identified by the author of the post as "Freedom Tower", exposure to potential commentary on that name is a risk you'll need to take.
posted by Trurl at 11:27 AM on September 22, 2011
It is designed to withstand the impact of an airliner.
Well, so was the old one, just not that airliner.
posted by LionIndex at 11:28 AM on September 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
Well, so was the old one, just not that airliner.
posted by LionIndex at 11:28 AM on September 22, 2011 [1 favorite]
I'd pretty much expect concrete to only be used at the lower levels and foundation
For safety's sake, the new tower's core is like a concrete bunker all the way up, with wider stairwells and such inside, to safely evacuate people should there be a repeat attack, since most of the fatalities were people trapped inside.
posted by hypersloth at 11:29 AM on September 22, 2011
For safety's sake, the new tower's core is like a concrete bunker all the way up, with wider stairwells and such inside, to safely evacuate people should there be a repeat attack, since most of the fatalities were people trapped inside.
posted by hypersloth at 11:29 AM on September 22, 2011
Or what xod said
posted by hypersloth at 11:30 AM on September 22, 2011
posted by hypersloth at 11:30 AM on September 22, 2011
They had such a good Team USA vibe going with the brawny construction sequences and just killed it when the blase people in suits showed up looking as if they took the whole effort for granted.
posted by the jam at 11:48 AM on September 22, 2011
posted by the jam at 11:48 AM on September 22, 2011
"The World Trade Center site employs more than 3,200 workers. At present, it is the largest construction project in the United States."
Here's a great feature about the workers who are bulding the WTC and this video on Sky Cowboys.
Also, if you click "rebuilding" from the right hand table of contents, there are other good features on the rebuilding from the NYT 9-11 coverage. There are some good inforgraphics and video clips about the memorial, the building and the underground construction for transportation - pretty fascinating project.
posted by madamjujujive at 1:52 PM on September 22, 2011
Here's a great feature about the workers who are bulding the WTC and this video on Sky Cowboys.
Also, if you click "rebuilding" from the right hand table of contents, there are other good features on the rebuilding from the NYT 9-11 coverage. There are some good inforgraphics and video clips about the memorial, the building and the underground construction for transportation - pretty fascinating project.
posted by madamjujujive at 1:52 PM on September 22, 2011
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