Is this funny or
October 26, 2001 11:51 AM Subscribe
I'm gonna go with "B". It might be funny, if it weren't so sad.
posted by jpoulos at 11:54 AM on October 26, 2001
posted by jpoulos at 11:54 AM on October 26, 2001
a little from column a, a little from column b.
i don't think it's funny, but that's just me. doesn't mean it's not funny to others.
posted by o2b at 11:57 AM on October 26, 2001
i don't think it's funny, but that's just me. doesn't mean it's not funny to others.
posted by o2b at 11:57 AM on October 26, 2001
It must be like a continuos 'key party' over there. You never know whom you're going home with.
Ah..the choices...
posted by theJaybird at 11:57 AM on October 26, 2001
Ah..the choices...
posted by theJaybird at 11:57 AM on October 26, 2001
no, my friend. you do not have bad taste. that shit's funny.
posted by athensltd at 11:58 AM on October 26, 2001
posted by athensltd at 11:58 AM on October 26, 2001
They're all much too beautiful to decide. For this, the photographer is probably already dead.
posted by MiguelCardoso at 12:01 PM on October 26, 2001
posted by MiguelCardoso at 12:01 PM on October 26, 2001
hmmm decisions decisions - there all so material!
posted by monkeyJuice at 12:06 PM on October 26, 2001
posted by monkeyJuice at 12:06 PM on October 26, 2001
They all look alike.
You're just being shallow, bondcliff. You need to look for their inner beauty.
OK, I'm starting to enjoy this, despite myself.
posted by jpoulos at 12:17 PM on October 26, 2001
You're just being shallow, bondcliff. You need to look for their inner beauty.
OK, I'm starting to enjoy this, despite myself.
posted by jpoulos at 12:17 PM on October 26, 2001
What can you do? Sometimes tasteless is funny. It's like farting in church: you know it's wrong, but you hee-haw like a donkey anyway.
posted by mrmanley at 12:18 PM on October 26, 2001
posted by mrmanley at 12:18 PM on October 26, 2001
It's funny, along the lines of The Onion's WTC issue. Except they didn't quite touch on issues so much as reaction. This could probably be seen as inappropriate.
I laughed, though. And then I sighed.
posted by precocious at 12:27 PM on October 26, 2001
I laughed, though. And then I sighed.
posted by precocious at 12:27 PM on October 26, 2001
It was funny the first time I saw it on FilePile, but it's been reposted there a gajillion times, so now it's just ho-hum for me.
posted by briank at 12:29 PM on October 26, 2001
posted by briank at 12:29 PM on October 26, 2001
You have bad taste, but so do a lot of people. It made me chuckle.
posted by Witold at 12:31 PM on October 26, 2001
posted by Witold at 12:31 PM on October 26, 2001
Is this funny or Do I just have bad taste?
Bad taste, definitely bad taste.
posted by valerie at 12:38 PM on October 26, 2001
Bad taste, definitely bad taste.
posted by valerie at 12:38 PM on October 26, 2001
well, it's been good enough to make it onto filepile EVERY SINGLE HOUR
posted by starduck at 12:42 PM on October 26, 2001
posted by starduck at 12:42 PM on October 26, 2001
I saw the Actors Studio w/ Robin Williams. He grabbed a shawl from an audience member, covered his face, then screamed, "Help Me!"
Sometimes levity, if it is done well, speaks stronger than righteous indignation.
No offence intended. And I had assumed it was somewhere on the net, didn't know how prevelent. Oh well, we are always smarter before we hit, 'post'.
posted by thekorruptor at 12:47 PM on October 26, 2001
Sometimes levity, if it is done well, speaks stronger than righteous indignation.
No offence intended. And I had assumed it was somewhere on the net, didn't know how prevelent. Oh well, we are always smarter before we hit, 'post'.
posted by thekorruptor at 12:47 PM on October 26, 2001
I passed it around at work some time ago. Consensus? Funny.
<sarcasm>
There was one person who didn't find it funny, but it was a woman, so who cares?
</sarcasm>
posted by mr_crash_davis at 12:54 PM on October 26, 2001
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There was one person who didn't find it funny, but it was a woman, so who cares?
</sarcasm>
posted by mr_crash_davis at 12:54 PM on October 26, 2001
I'd think it was in poor taste if Muslims made fun of my mom because she wears ashes on her forehead on Ash Wednesday. Or that she wears a cross around her neck with a little dead Jesus on it. It may seem weird to outsiders, but to her it's important and something she takes pride in.
Before the attacks would this image have been funny to many? Probably not.
posted by perplexed at 12:54 PM on October 26, 2001
Before the attacks would this image have been funny to many? Probably not.
posted by perplexed at 12:54 PM on October 26, 2001
perplexed:
I don't think the women's beliefs are the crux of the joke. If I understand the situation correctly, the Afghan women don't have a choice about wearing the burqa, or not working or getting an education.
Do you think it's in poor taste to mock the men who force this on the women? I believe that's the point.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 1:00 PM on October 26, 2001
I don't think the women's beliefs are the crux of the joke. If I understand the situation correctly, the Afghan women don't have a choice about wearing the burqa, or not working or getting an education.
Do you think it's in poor taste to mock the men who force this on the women? I believe that's the point.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 1:00 PM on October 26, 2001
Erk, I didn't mean to sound so sour! Crap, earnest much? I'd say it was a bit clever whoever thought of it.
But I guess I've just seen it alot.
posted by perplexed at 1:00 PM on October 26, 2001
But I guess I've just seen it alot.
posted by perplexed at 1:00 PM on October 26, 2001
Clever and poignant. I laughed. Bad taste? I'm so sick of people gauging whether or not it's bad taste to make fun of this poorly short-sighted approach to controlling lifestyle.
I think what is done to Muslim women is horrid bad taste, but no one asks me, so I say give Afghanistan men hell. We can't tell Aggie jokes any more. Someone has to be the fall guy. I say the fall guy of the 21st century for laughs should be those longbearded guntoting lunatics who bark Quran quotes and then think with their penis. One penis. All extremist Muslim men think with the same penis.
I wouldn't make fun of this lifestyle if it had any redeeming qualities. Women are treated worse than cattle. They claim to worship a god, then respond with violence and hate for their fellow Man. These people should be tarred and feathered. They should be forced into stocks and made to watch hundreds of hours of Richard Simmons fitness videos. We should sic George Carlin on them - he'd belittle them to death. They are a laughing stock and a disgrace of humanity. We should so no remorse for VEFiM's (violent extremist fundamental muslims). They'd show no remorse for us.
Anything that makes fun of them will get a big laugh from me.
posted by ZachsMind at 1:42 PM on October 26, 2001
I think what is done to Muslim women is horrid bad taste, but no one asks me, so I say give Afghanistan men hell. We can't tell Aggie jokes any more. Someone has to be the fall guy. I say the fall guy of the 21st century for laughs should be those longbearded guntoting lunatics who bark Quran quotes and then think with their penis. One penis. All extremist Muslim men think with the same penis.
I wouldn't make fun of this lifestyle if it had any redeeming qualities. Women are treated worse than cattle. They claim to worship a god, then respond with violence and hate for their fellow Man. These people should be tarred and feathered. They should be forced into stocks and made to watch hundreds of hours of Richard Simmons fitness videos. We should sic George Carlin on them - he'd belittle them to death. They are a laughing stock and a disgrace of humanity. We should so no remorse for VEFiM's (violent extremist fundamental muslims). They'd show no remorse for us.
Anything that makes fun of them will get a big laugh from me.
posted by ZachsMind at 1:42 PM on October 26, 2001
They should be forced into stocks and made to watch hundreds of hours of Richard Simmons fitness videos
Heartless bastard.
posted by bondcliff at 2:06 PM on October 26, 2001
Heartless bastard.
posted by bondcliff at 2:06 PM on October 26, 2001
I found it pretty funny too. It sums up the absurdity of the Taliban quite well.
posted by crustygeek at 2:09 PM on October 26, 2001
posted by crustygeek at 2:09 PM on October 26, 2001
The question, Zachsmind, is whether this makes fun of the Muslim men who subjugate women, or the Muslim women themselves.
posted by jpoulos at 2:13 PM on October 26, 2001
posted by jpoulos at 2:13 PM on October 26, 2001
I don't see how it can be making fun of the women since they are held down so badly. We cannot see them or hear them so how can we possibly make fun of them? Very sad.
posted by bondcliff at 2:18 PM on October 26, 2001
posted by bondcliff at 2:18 PM on October 26, 2001
I gave it a snicker. Put it in the funny yet sad category for me.
posted by Dick Paris at 2:20 PM on October 26, 2001
posted by Dick Paris at 2:20 PM on October 26, 2001
Personally I'm not attracted to submissive women, so I can't wrap my mind around the idea of ANY man forcing a woman to wear a veil and conceal her identity or subjugate her freedoms. These men are laughable to me, because they obviously are afraid of the power of women. They see it as "evil" because anything that threatens their manhood is "evil" to them. They're trying to be all butch on the outside with their guns and their beards but truthfully the whole concept of fundamentalism is like building the Twin Towers with twinkies.
I find burqas offensive. I always have but I thought maybe I just didn't understand. It's their culture. I should be tolerant of that. But now we've seen the extreme end results of this behavior and it makes me mad. The only way I can respond to that is to laugh at the absurdity of it.
And I understand the women have no alternative. Well, actually they have a lot of alternatives in extremist muslim society. The alternatives to wearing the burqa is imprisonment, ostracism or death. What a wealth of opportunities! However, any woman's soul is stronger than this. I can't see how any human being, bestowed from birth with inalienable rights, would be willing to continue living under such conditions.
I don't like violence. I prefer peace. I am a pacifist, but I would be forced to die fighting to prevent another from taking my inalienable rights. I would rather die than be forced to wear a burqa. I can't fathom how any human being would tolerate this behavior.
Ladies and gentlemen, THIS is what happens if women do not pussy-whip men. Extremist fundamental muslims should be forced to face their feminine side. So you ladies go right on pussy-whipping men here in America. If left to their own devices, men will fight the world into destruction. The alternative to pussy-whipping is too stupid to exist.
posted by ZachsMind at 2:47 PM on October 26, 2001
I find burqas offensive. I always have but I thought maybe I just didn't understand. It's their culture. I should be tolerant of that. But now we've seen the extreme end results of this behavior and it makes me mad. The only way I can respond to that is to laugh at the absurdity of it.
And I understand the women have no alternative. Well, actually they have a lot of alternatives in extremist muslim society. The alternatives to wearing the burqa is imprisonment, ostracism or death. What a wealth of opportunities! However, any woman's soul is stronger than this. I can't see how any human being, bestowed from birth with inalienable rights, would be willing to continue living under such conditions.
I don't like violence. I prefer peace. I am a pacifist, but I would be forced to die fighting to prevent another from taking my inalienable rights. I would rather die than be forced to wear a burqa. I can't fathom how any human being would tolerate this behavior.
Ladies and gentlemen, THIS is what happens if women do not pussy-whip men. Extremist fundamental muslims should be forced to face their feminine side. So you ladies go right on pussy-whipping men here in America. If left to their own devices, men will fight the world into destruction. The alternative to pussy-whipping is too stupid to exist.
posted by ZachsMind at 2:47 PM on October 26, 2001
Now that is a rant!
posted by thekorruptor at 2:56 PM on October 26, 2001
posted by thekorruptor at 2:56 PM on October 26, 2001
That definitely goes into my very funny catagory. And I'm a raging feminist. I laughed my ass off.
It's not making fun of the women. Duh. It's making fun of the stupid men who make the women into faceless chattle.
The Afghan woman's situation is NOT a laughing matter. I think everyone here would agree on that.
As for the "pussy whipped." Uh...I don't think that has anything to do with it. Gay men aren't "pussy whipped" by women, and I don't see them banging down the doors to put me in chains. The fundamentalists are terrified of civilization and enlightened and free women is definitely an idea for a civilized culture. Very bad juju in their minds.
Although I have to agree that, if left to their own devices, men will destroy the world. The only time we will have world peace is when women rule all the countries like men do now. Then we might have some back-stabbing bitchiness, but no destructive world wars.
posted by aacheson at 3:09 PM on October 26, 2001
It's not making fun of the women. Duh. It's making fun of the stupid men who make the women into faceless chattle.
The Afghan woman's situation is NOT a laughing matter. I think everyone here would agree on that.
As for the "pussy whipped." Uh...I don't think that has anything to do with it. Gay men aren't "pussy whipped" by women, and I don't see them banging down the doors to put me in chains. The fundamentalists are terrified of civilization and enlightened and free women is definitely an idea for a civilized culture. Very bad juju in their minds.
Although I have to agree that, if left to their own devices, men will destroy the world. The only time we will have world peace is when women rule all the countries like men do now. Then we might have some back-stabbing bitchiness, but no destructive world wars.
posted by aacheson at 3:09 PM on October 26, 2001
Ooh, implying that the Taliban has sex with goats! That IS clever!
</sarcasm>
posted by solistrato at 3:13 PM on October 26, 2001
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posted by solistrato at 3:13 PM on October 26, 2001
The thing that got me giggling was the "Location" distinction. Cave/Tent/Hut... and the one lone French Journalist in the bunch? The rest of it, I just sighed. Sad as hell.
posted by evixir at 3:15 PM on October 26, 2001
posted by evixir at 3:15 PM on October 26, 2001
Aacheson, I happen to agree with zachsmind (not zach, however). I think it is the lack of the femine influence that drives war mongering, most especially in this case.
Bottom line is, if women had any power in that culture no one would have flown planes into any building.
Not that I would have used the term 'pussy whipped'.
posted by thekorruptor at 3:29 PM on October 26, 2001
Bottom line is, if women had any power in that culture no one would have flown planes into any building.
Not that I would have used the term 'pussy whipped'.
posted by thekorruptor at 3:29 PM on October 26, 2001
if it wasn't for bad taste, i wouldn't have any taste at all.
posted by jcterminal at 4:07 PM on October 26, 2001
posted by jcterminal at 4:07 PM on October 26, 2001
Thekorruptor...I agreed with him (and you) too! Like I said,
The only time we will have world peace is when women rule all the countries like men do now. Then we might have some back-stabbing bitchiness, but no destructive world wars.
And maybe a little too much credit card debt. ;)
posted by aacheson at 4:15 PM on October 26, 2001
The only time we will have world peace is when women rule all the countries like men do now. Then we might have some back-stabbing bitchiness, but no destructive world wars.
And maybe a little too much credit card debt. ;)
posted by aacheson at 4:15 PM on October 26, 2001
Ooh, implying that the Taliban has sex with goats!
the taliban has sex with goats? oh man, i can't wait to tell my world civ. professor that one. he won't think their such an advanced culture anymore....
posted by lotsofno at 5:20 PM on October 26, 2001
the taliban has sex with goats? oh man, i can't wait to tell my world civ. professor that one. he won't think their such an advanced culture anymore....
posted by lotsofno at 5:20 PM on October 26, 2001
y'all think too much. (common Thai expression..)
it was FUNNY.
Don't forget, humor can be VERY subversive......
btw I am GLAD the taliban are getting their butts bombed off- I think maybe that is justice for making all those women's lives a living death.....even if the twin towers were still standing I would feel that way......
posted by bunnyfire at 5:30 PM on October 26, 2001
it was FUNNY.
Don't forget, humor can be VERY subversive......
btw I am GLAD the taliban are getting their butts bombed off- I think maybe that is justice for making all those women's lives a living death.....even if the twin towers were still standing I would feel that way......
posted by bunnyfire at 5:30 PM on October 26, 2001
oh please...
As for the "pussy whipped." Uh...I don't think that has anything to do with it. Gay men aren't "pussy whipped" by women, and I don't see them banging down the doors to put me in chains.
you're telling me that between a fag hag and a gay guy that the gay guy is in always in charge? ha! mine could kick my ass any day of the week.
posted by pooldemon at 9:09 PM on October 26, 2001
As for the "pussy whipped." Uh...I don't think that has anything to do with it. Gay men aren't "pussy whipped" by women, and I don't see them banging down the doors to put me in chains.
you're telling me that between a fag hag and a gay guy that the gay guy is in always in charge? ha! mine could kick my ass any day of the week.
posted by pooldemon at 9:09 PM on October 26, 2001
I didn't think it was very funny. Not because it was in bad taste, but just because it wasn't funny. It's an easy target.
posted by Summer at 3:08 AM on October 27, 2001
posted by Summer at 3:08 AM on October 27, 2001
> There was one person who didn't find it funny, but it was a woman, so who cares?
I also have to chime in on the "unfunny" side. I sort of liked it ["I am winking at you" yes, funny] until the "no more beatings please" headline and then I remembered what a complete hell on earth it must be to be female there and then I guess that train of thought made it tough for me to get back to what was so funny about it.
posted by jessamyn at 9:38 AM on October 27, 2001
I also have to chime in on the "unfunny" side. I sort of liked it ["I am winking at you" yes, funny] until the "no more beatings please" headline and then I remembered what a complete hell on earth it must be to be female there and then I guess that train of thought made it tough for me to get back to what was so funny about it.
posted by jessamyn at 9:38 AM on October 27, 2001
Another vote for "unfunny" for both the link and the "sarcasm" about women.
posted by Carol Anne at 11:41 AM on October 27, 2001
posted by Carol Anne at 11:41 AM on October 27, 2001
Uh, isn't this....satire? Holding something ridiculous up to highlight just how ridiculous it is (we know that, but still, satire, right?)
Unless anyone has some inside info into the creator's intent, I'm going to go with that.
posted by lucien at 12:16 PM on October 27, 2001
Unless anyone has some inside info into the creator's intent, I'm going to go with that.
posted by lucien at 12:16 PM on October 27, 2001
Funny on some level, perhaps...but the veils...like ghosts...left me stranded on the melancholy mezzanine. Not a comment about religion or custom - just a Western gestalt...gauze-wrapped human embryos...life expectancy = 44 years...my Mom's older than that...my ellipsis finger is twitching...now back to your regular programming...
posted by Opus Dark at 4:11 AM on October 28, 2001
posted by Opus Dark at 4:11 AM on October 28, 2001
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I laughed though.
posted by bondcliff at 11:53 AM on October 26, 2001