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May 30, 2013 4:20 PM Subscribe
Patrick Rodgers, who (previously) "foreclosed" on Wells Fargo, is now suing eBay over a case of mistaken identity.
Rodgers says recent complaints had been lodged against another eBay merchant who sold him the MTG Place three years ago - copies of the $11,000 cashier's check and his bank records helped prove the point.I'm confused. People were lodging complaints against... another merchant? But targeted at the wrong store? How is that possible?
Furthermore, how does one buy an eBay storefront? It seems tied to a user account, and buying eBay accounts is absolutely against the TOS.
posted by muddgirl at 5:18 PM on May 30, 2013
mudgirl: He bought someone else's business, which owned the ebay account. The ownership of the ebay account has likely not changed at all...
posted by lupus_yonderboy at 8:22 PM on May 30, 2013
posted by lupus_yonderboy at 8:22 PM on May 30, 2013
That makes sense, although eBay claims that such situations are rare (which is probably marketing-speak for "we don't want people to know they can do this"). But that doesn't clear up what Jeff Gelles is saying happened. People are continuing to make complaints against the former owner of MTG Place three years after it was sold? Or people are making current complaints about some other company but somehow they're registering against MTG Place? Or it took eBay three years to deal with the old complaints?
posted by muddgirl at 8:33 PM on May 30, 2013
posted by muddgirl at 8:33 PM on May 30, 2013
muddgirl: If you bought a business, then you'd get all their accounts and everything. How exactly would eBay even know that ownership of the business had changed? Legally, why do they have any right to care? Exactly the same business - i.e. corporate person - owns the eBay account.
posted by lupus_yonderboy at 9:42 PM on May 30, 2013
posted by lupus_yonderboy at 9:42 PM on May 30, 2013
Oh, don't tell MetaFilter that, lupus_yonderboy, now they'll never get behind this.
posted by dhartung at 11:41 PM on May 30, 2013
posted by dhartung at 11:41 PM on May 30, 2013
If the identity of the account didn't change from ebays perspective, then where is the mistake if they close it down based on the past actions of the account holder? Either he does want them to care that the account changed hands or he doesn't.
posted by jacalata at 1:41 AM on May 31, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by jacalata at 1:41 AM on May 31, 2013 [3 favorites]
It probably makes me a bad person that I want him to lose because of that picture of him in the link, but there it is.
posted by jpe at 4:05 AM on May 31, 2013
posted by jpe at 4:05 AM on May 31, 2013
In other words, how is this a case of mistaken identity if the identity of MTG Place didn't change?
posted by muddgirl at 4:59 AM on May 31, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by muddgirl at 4:59 AM on May 31, 2013 [1 favorite]
Why would anyone buy an eBay business? Do you seriously care where you buy it as long as the price is right and the feedback is reasonable? That being said why would anyone buy an eBay business with bad feedback?
posted by Gungho at 5:49 AM on May 31, 2013
posted by Gungho at 5:49 AM on May 31, 2013
Why would anyone buy an eBay business?Because according to the article it was generating $5,000 a month in income. I imagine if all the feedback were saintly it wouldn't have been as much of a bargain.
posted by Blue_Villain at 6:11 AM on May 31, 2013
It probably makes me a bad person that I want him to lose because of that picture of him in the link, but there it is.
posted by jpe at 4:05 AM on May 31 [+] [!]
Nah, it's probably a natural response for a lot of people. He's somewhat cringe-inducing if you're not into his thing.
However, as pointed out by many other people in the "previously" thread, he's a stand-up guy.
posted by snottydick at 6:44 AM on May 31, 2013
posted by jpe at 4:05 AM on May 31 [+] [!]
Nah, it's probably a natural response for a lot of people. He's somewhat cringe-inducing if you're not into his thing.
However, as pointed out by many other people in the "previously" thread, he's a stand-up guy.
posted by snottydick at 6:44 AM on May 31, 2013
> Either he does want them to care that the account changed hands or he doesn't.
"We are under new management, and we haven't had any issues in three years. (Also, why are you acting today on complaints that are over three years old?)"
Not so hard...
> why would anyone buy an eBay business with bad feedback?
Why would anyone buy a business that was being mismanaged? Because you think you can turn the business around.
It all seems very reasonable to me. He buys a failing business. He fixes it up. Much later, eBay finally responds to complaints from over three years before - and doesn't bother to listen to him when he explains. He sues them and they offer him money - because, when it comes down to it, they fucked up.
posted by lupus_yonderboy at 7:52 AM on May 31, 2013 [1 favorite]
"We are under new management, and we haven't had any issues in three years. (Also, why are you acting today on complaints that are over three years old?)"
Not so hard...
> why would anyone buy an eBay business with bad feedback?
Why would anyone buy a business that was being mismanaged? Because you think you can turn the business around.
It all seems very reasonable to me. He buys a failing business. He fixes it up. Much later, eBay finally responds to complaints from over three years before - and doesn't bother to listen to him when he explains. He sues them and they offer him money - because, when it comes down to it, they fucked up.
posted by lupus_yonderboy at 7:52 AM on May 31, 2013 [1 favorite]
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