Lynch + Reznor
July 2, 2013 2:19 PM Subscribe
Came Back Haunted: David Lynch directs the video for the first single off the upcoming Nine Inch Nails album, Hesitation Marks, due out in a few more months. [Seizure warning: lots of flashing lights and such.]
There's some wonderful imagery here, but the video could've used more diversity, less seizing and more of a transition from an only subtly wrong reality to total madness; I want to feel like I've stumbled into this Bad Place where everything is wrong and hostile. I'm pretty pleased with it for the imagery alone, but I want more of it and more substance to it. A lot of the shorts produced by Akira Yamaoka and Masahiro Ito for some Silent Hill tie-in DVD ages ago successfully convey that sense of a rotten, incomprehensible, dangerous but coherent reality that I get from Lynch's best work. That wiggly-crab-fingers image is something that's haunted my nightmares for a long time now; I have no idea why. Its movement is just wrong.
Lynch is good at making innocuous things seem inexplicably wrong and I'd like to see more of that, is what I'm saying.
posted by byanyothername at 2:51 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
Lynch is good at making innocuous things seem inexplicably wrong and I'd like to see more of that, is what I'm saying.
posted by byanyothername at 2:51 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
Song's grown on me since I first heard it. Turning it up helped. I'm sure there's something a bit Chemical Brothers going on in there too.
Video makes me feel like I've been welcomed to the third place. I am okay with this.
posted by comealongpole at 2:52 PM on July 2, 2013
Video makes me feel like I've been welcomed to the third place. I am okay with this.
posted by comealongpole at 2:52 PM on July 2, 2013
((Also, going back to NIN as an adult, I find most of Trent Reznor's output to be more nihilistic than angsty. Like Lynch, he has a particular aesthetic that is less typical 90s alt rock "I feel sorry for myself and you should too!" and more creepy otherworld misanthropic unease "here is a weird wrong thing I found hope you like it." I've always liked his instrumentals best; Ghosts, Quake, Social Network, Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, Tetsuo 3. He's a good composer; La Mer is still very soothing and pretty, too.))
posted by byanyothername at 2:52 PM on July 2, 2013 [4 favorites]
posted by byanyothername at 2:52 PM on July 2, 2013 [4 favorites]
David Lynch directs the video for the first single off the upcoming Nine Inch Nails album
Tosses headline into time vortex, 1992 Mike picks it up, head explodes, time paradox created.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 2:56 PM on July 2, 2013 [7 favorites]
Tosses headline into time vortex, 1992 Mike picks it up, head explodes, time paradox created.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 2:56 PM on July 2, 2013 [7 favorites]
Meanwhile, in 1960s Nashville: a video that wasn't directed by David Lynch, but might as well have been.
posted by Atom Eyes at 3:00 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by Atom Eyes at 3:00 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
(((ALSO also, I really really really want to see Reznor just buckle down and write a Year Zero novel because that is an amazing little dark sci-fi world that deserves to be fleshed out.)))
posted by byanyothername at 3:00 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by byanyothername at 3:00 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
PUFFBALL IN A CORNER RED DOTS SHAKY TRENT FLASH FLASH FLASH FLASH CLAY HEAD
It's alright, but the track feels like Reznor phoning in a "single". NIN hasn't sounded like pre-Fragile for a long time, and it's less-than-satisfying to hear a song which self-consciously tries to emulate that. It's okay to admit that Reznor's strongest material is more glitchy and textural. Year Zero was terrific, especially because it completely abandoned many of the old NIN tropes.
The video's interesting, but it also feels a bit tossed-off. Someone needs to make Lynch hungry again.
Doesn't mean I didn't gleefully buy NIN&GSY!BE tickets the other day.
I really liked the first HTDA EP, too, though now that both primaries from Coil are dead, its naming did lead me to wonder if Reznor wasn't going to just start lifting stuff from them wholesale.
Coil (and their fellow-travelers) regularly lifted others' works for their song titles and whatnot. At least in this case Reznor was actually Christopherson's colleague.
Also, HTDA's Welcome oblivion is pretty great.
(((ALSO also, I really really really want to see Reznor just buckle down and write a Year Zero novel because that is an amazing little dark sci-fi world that deserves to be fleshed out.)))
HBO had been working on it as a series. I don't know if that project has stalled, but it would have been amazing, in the right hands. It would have been a non-crummy Wild Palms.
posted by Sticherbeast at 3:02 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
It's alright, but the track feels like Reznor phoning in a "single". NIN hasn't sounded like pre-Fragile for a long time, and it's less-than-satisfying to hear a song which self-consciously tries to emulate that. It's okay to admit that Reznor's strongest material is more glitchy and textural. Year Zero was terrific, especially because it completely abandoned many of the old NIN tropes.
The video's interesting, but it also feels a bit tossed-off. Someone needs to make Lynch hungry again.
Doesn't mean I didn't gleefully buy NIN&GSY!BE tickets the other day.
I really liked the first HTDA EP, too, though now that both primaries from Coil are dead, its naming did lead me to wonder if Reznor wasn't going to just start lifting stuff from them wholesale.
Coil (and their fellow-travelers) regularly lifted others' works for their song titles and whatnot. At least in this case Reznor was actually Christopherson's colleague.
Also, HTDA's Welcome oblivion is pretty great.
(((ALSO also, I really really really want to see Reznor just buckle down and write a Year Zero novel because that is an amazing little dark sci-fi world that deserves to be fleshed out.)))
HBO had been working on it as a series. I don't know if that project has stalled, but it would have been amazing, in the right hands. It would have been a non-crummy Wild Palms.
posted by Sticherbeast at 3:02 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
I started out thinking hey, there's a nice little Paul Sharits vibe in there, and then found the rest completely unsurprising, which is disappointing. I tend to wish Reznor would just stick to instrumentals or start singing in Hopelandic or Kobaïan so I could enjoy what he does well without having to hear a very wealthy middle-aged man singing about his angsty anxiety and his edgy life of edging it on the edge. Sheesh.
And Mr. Lynch—c'mon. If it looks like an eighteen year-old Residents CD-ROM channeling your own mise-en-scène from twenty years earlier, it might be time to mix it up a bit. At least bring out the sitcom rabbits, homeless direction-giving with bloody vomit, and Grace Zabriskie filmed from three inches away.
posted by sonascope at 3:09 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
And Mr. Lynch—c'mon. If it looks like an eighteen year-old Residents CD-ROM channeling your own mise-en-scène from twenty years earlier, it might be time to mix it up a bit. At least bring out the sitcom rabbits, homeless direction-giving with bloody vomit, and Grace Zabriskie filmed from three inches away.
posted by sonascope at 3:09 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
I was exactly the right age and demographic for Pretty Hate Machine when it came out, and I loved, loved, loved NIN through The Downward Spiral.
But now that I'm an old man, I've gotta echo what others have said here: Reznor's undoubtedly a talented musician, but his work isn't done any favors by his lyrics (or, to a lesser degree, his vocal delivery).
posted by escape from the potato planet at 3:24 PM on July 2, 2013 [3 favorites]
But now that I'm an old man, I've gotta echo what others have said here: Reznor's undoubtedly a talented musician, but his work isn't done any favors by his lyrics (or, to a lesser degree, his vocal delivery).
posted by escape from the potato planet at 3:24 PM on July 2, 2013 [3 favorites]
Props to trent reznor for working on this song for 23 years.
posted by Teakettle at 3:27 PM on July 2, 2013 [14 favorites]
posted by Teakettle at 3:27 PM on July 2, 2013 [14 favorites]
Man these synths are chubby
posted by Teakettle at 3:28 PM on July 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by Teakettle at 3:28 PM on July 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
Reznor's pretty swole nowadays fyi remember this fact
posted by Sticherbeast at 3:33 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by Sticherbeast at 3:33 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
I'm not ashamed to say I got deep into a lot of industrial and IDM partly because of NIN and Reznor's influence on his nothing label. I jumped off to Plug, Coil, MBM, Autechre, Aphex, and from there on to less well-known acts. I am grateful to him for making a lot of great musicians more widely known, to me and to others who shared my tastes.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 3:42 PM on July 2, 2013 [6 favorites]
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 3:42 PM on July 2, 2013 [6 favorites]
I think deep in my reptilian brain stem I blame him for Linkin Park
posted by Teakettle at 3:47 PM on July 2, 2013 [6 favorites]
posted by Teakettle at 3:47 PM on July 2, 2013 [6 favorites]
Props to trent reznor for working on this song for 23 years
It's Spirals all the way down.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 3:58 PM on July 2, 2013 [4 favorites]
It's Spirals all the way down.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 3:58 PM on July 2, 2013 [4 favorites]
I think deep in my reptilian brain stem I blame him for Linkin Park
I believe he is directly responsible for Marylyn Manson.
posted by Artw at 3:59 PM on July 2, 2013
I believe he is directly responsible for Marylyn Manson.
posted by Artw at 3:59 PM on July 2, 2013
One of the positive things I can say about Trent Reznor is his influence on Brian Wilson. After Pet Sounds, as we all know, Wilson recorded a bunch of insane bullshit which never became an album (this is a simplified account.) On The Fragile, there's this song with cellos and what sounds like a saw cutting wood. When Brian Wilson released SmiLe much later, the opening to "Vegetables" has a very similar sound to it. In fact, if you listen to SmILe you will hear a lot of timbral creativity which Reznor inspired.
posted by Teakettle at 4:01 PM on July 2, 2013
posted by Teakettle at 4:01 PM on July 2, 2013
Through the whole thing I'm hearing The Hand That Rocks the Cradle while my mind flashes back to Instructions for a The Bodie. Thanks to all responsible including elizardbits who echoed the lyrics screaming silently in my head, "Instead you have THE MOUTHS."
posted by maggieb at 4:09 PM on July 2, 2013
posted by maggieb at 4:09 PM on July 2, 2013
The song itself is fine, but the video is the least Lynchian thing I've seen. It really looks like an old Nitzer Ebb or Front 242 video from 1990.
posted by Kitteh at 4:10 PM on July 2, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by Kitteh at 4:10 PM on July 2, 2013 [3 favorites]
Yeah, what the hell? The video looks like someone with a pirated copy of Magix Movie Maker took a proper NiN video then added in his own stupid effects just for the heck of it. Those lightning bolts in the beginning are straight outta 1990, and what was up with that "explosion" that didn't fit the background at all?
posted by ymgve at 4:18 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by ymgve at 4:18 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
It really looks like an old Nitzer Ebb or Front 242 video from 1990.
> implying this is a problem
> implying David Lynch hasn't become a PVC-clad rivethead
> implying his next film won't be a shot-for-shot remake of Hardware
> to be promoted heavily in rec.music.industrial
posted by Sticherbeast at 4:24 PM on July 2, 2013 [7 favorites]
> implying this is a problem
> implying David Lynch hasn't become a PVC-clad rivethead
> implying his next film won't be a shot-for-shot remake of Hardware
> to be promoted heavily in rec.music.industrial
posted by Sticherbeast at 4:24 PM on July 2, 2013 [7 favorites]
I'm hoping that this whole 2013 NIN experience doesn't turn out to be metal's version of the Star War's prequels.
I'm sorry, but this new song and video is weak sauce. Go back and watch the video for "Closer" and tell me how NIN has progressed in a positive direction. I don't see it.
posted by Muddler at 4:24 PM on July 2, 2013
I'm sorry, but this new song and video is weak sauce. Go back and watch the video for "Closer" and tell me how NIN has progressed in a positive direction. I don't see it.
posted by Muddler at 4:24 PM on July 2, 2013
I'm sorry, but this new song and video is weak sauce. Go back and watch the video for "Closer" and tell me how NIN has progressed in a positive direction. I don't see it.
The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo soundtrack was pretty spiffy.
posted by The Power Nap at 4:33 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo soundtrack was pretty spiffy.
posted by The Power Nap at 4:33 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
I believe he is directly responsible for Marylyn Manson.
The first show I saw in college was NIN on the Downward Spiral tour, with a then unknown Marilyn Manson opening for them.
It was at a basketball arena, and as I recall, the venue left the house lights up for almost the entirety of their opening set. It was kind of a pathetic spectacle to witness: Marilyn and crew were giving it their all up on the stage, doing their darndest to shock the audience with their androgynous writhings, carnival spookhouse imagery, and lyrics about serial killers and having sex with children. And all the while, audience members were slowly filing in to find their seats, aimlessly milling about, chatting to people across the aisle, making last-minute trips to the bathroom or concession stand to purchase sodas and snacks, and occasionally glancing up to see if it looked like the opening band might hurry up and wrap things up already.
I don't remember if any of their songs sounded good or not, but I do remember that Marilyn wore a large floppy top hat, reminiscent of the one worn by the lady from 4 Non Blondes.
posted by Atom Eyes at 4:33 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
The first show I saw in college was NIN on the Downward Spiral tour, with a then unknown Marilyn Manson opening for them.
It was at a basketball arena, and as I recall, the venue left the house lights up for almost the entirety of their opening set. It was kind of a pathetic spectacle to witness: Marilyn and crew were giving it their all up on the stage, doing their darndest to shock the audience with their androgynous writhings, carnival spookhouse imagery, and lyrics about serial killers and having sex with children. And all the while, audience members were slowly filing in to find their seats, aimlessly milling about, chatting to people across the aisle, making last-minute trips to the bathroom or concession stand to purchase sodas and snacks, and occasionally glancing up to see if it looked like the opening band might hurry up and wrap things up already.
I don't remember if any of their songs sounded good or not, but I do remember that Marilyn wore a large floppy top hat, reminiscent of the one worn by the lady from 4 Non Blondes.
posted by Atom Eyes at 4:33 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
I enjoyed the video/song, but man, this video could seriously be weaponized against epileptics. If the U.S. ever goes to war against Epileptistan, we should hire David Lynch as some kind of military advisor.
posted by Green Winnebago at 4:34 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by Green Winnebago at 4:34 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
> implying this is a problem
> implying David Lynch hasn't become a PVC-clad rivethead
> implying his next film won't be a shot-for-shot remake of Hardware
> to be promoted heavily in rec.music.industrial
Please leave this kind of thing at 4chan.
posted by ymgve at 4:35 PM on July 2, 2013
> implying David Lynch hasn't become a PVC-clad rivethead
> implying his next film won't be a shot-for-shot remake of Hardware
> to be promoted heavily in rec.music.industrial
Please leave this kind of thing at 4chan.
posted by ymgve at 4:35 PM on July 2, 2013
Gah. This whole thread is full of your-band-sucks. How frustrating.
I like the new single. It is more like Downward Spiral & Pretty Hate Machine NIN than the more recent stuff has been. I welcome a return to that with a more experienced Trent.
The video is pretty shite, but most music videos these days are.
posted by ish__ at 4:35 PM on July 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
I like the new single. It is more like Downward Spiral & Pretty Hate Machine NIN than the more recent stuff has been. I welcome a return to that with a more experienced Trent.
The video is pretty shite, but most music videos these days are.
posted by ish__ at 4:35 PM on July 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
It seemed perfectly Lynchian to me. Spasmodic camera work? Oddly dated effects? Distorted and painted faces? Manipulation of odd, antique imagery?
He's done all this since, oh, at least Fire Walk With Me.
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 4:39 PM on July 2, 2013
He's done all this since, oh, at least Fire Walk With Me.
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 4:39 PM on July 2, 2013
If the U.S. ever goes to war against Epileptistan, we should hire David Lynch as some kind of military advisor.
Or Gaspar Noé.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 4:39 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
Or Gaspar Noé.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 4:39 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
Now this tweet finally makes sense:
posted by Chinese Jet Pilot at 4:43 PM on July 2, 2013 [4 favorites]
Dear Twitter Friends, Im making a lightning bolt to take a picture of.— David Lynch (@DAVID_LYNCH) June 19, 2013
posted by Chinese Jet Pilot at 4:43 PM on July 2, 2013 [4 favorites]
I think "Hesitation Mark" is the Homestuck troll name for ellipses...
posted by ShawnStruck at 4:43 PM on July 2, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by ShawnStruck at 4:43 PM on July 2, 2013 [3 favorites]
This whole thread is full of your-band-sucks.
I like NIN. Not a Lynch fan, but Trent Reznor often resonates with me.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 4:44 PM on July 2, 2013
I like NIN. Not a Lynch fan, but Trent Reznor often resonates with me.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 4:44 PM on July 2, 2013
There is a kinda odd little-girly-pre-teenish "Meet your Tooth Fairy" advert pop-up in the NPR view window here. Intentional?
posted by ovvl at 4:46 PM on July 2, 2013
posted by ovvl at 4:46 PM on July 2, 2013
Is the Tooth Fairy bloody?
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 4:48 PM on July 2, 2013
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 4:48 PM on July 2, 2013
They should really break this up with some clips of Kurt Loder
posted by Teakettle at 4:49 PM on July 2, 2013
posted by Teakettle at 4:49 PM on July 2, 2013
I'm not so sure how I feel about seeing it come from a middle-aged man now, though
He's like the musical version of Wooderson from Dazed and Confused.
It's his thing though, and he does it well, and while it used to resonate with me as a teenager more than it does now, he still surprises me sometimes.
posted by Hoopo at 4:55 PM on July 2, 2013
He's like the musical version of Wooderson from Dazed and Confused.
It's his thing though, and he does it well, and while it used to resonate with me as a teenager more than it does now, he still surprises me sometimes.
posted by Hoopo at 4:55 PM on July 2, 2013
Hardware is a classic! Lynch would have to be some kind of monster to attempt remaking it!
posted by Artw at 5:10 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by Artw at 5:10 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
I was slightly meh on the single, but listened to it a few more times because I am old and my response to new stimuli is almost always "get offa my lawn you dang kids" so now I do rather like it now. But I fucking LOATHED the clip. It's juvenile and reminded me of an 80s version of Tool's creepy stuff without actually, y'know' being creepy enough to justify it or weird enough to compensate.
I have liked a lot of the new NIN stuff and as much as I get the 'you're old and rich stop whining' thing, I've sadly found that age and wealth do not actually correlate to better mental health. I mean, I get it, I'm 32 so why am I still angsting about everything and so on and so forth, but I am. And I use my creative endeavours to deal with it, or comment on it, or distract me from. So if he's gonna do it with his music, well, I'll still listen. I do agree that it's more nihilistic than teen angst though.
Also, who's to say the next album isn't some weird ghost-concept piece in the same vein as Year Zero? It hasn't gotten the same AR treatment, but NIN does like the concept album thing.
posted by geek anachronism at 5:29 PM on July 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
I have liked a lot of the new NIN stuff and as much as I get the 'you're old and rich stop whining' thing, I've sadly found that age and wealth do not actually correlate to better mental health. I mean, I get it, I'm 32 so why am I still angsting about everything and so on and so forth, but I am. And I use my creative endeavours to deal with it, or comment on it, or distract me from. So if he's gonna do it with his music, well, I'll still listen. I do agree that it's more nihilistic than teen angst though.
Also, who's to say the next album isn't some weird ghost-concept piece in the same vein as Year Zero? It hasn't gotten the same AR treatment, but NIN does like the concept album thing.
posted by geek anachronism at 5:29 PM on July 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
Blazecock Pileon: "I'm not ashamed to say I got deep into a lot of industrial and IDM partly because of NIN and Reznor's influence on his nothing label. I jumped off to Plug, Coil, MBM, Autechre, Aphex, and from there on to less well-known acts. I am grateful to him for making a lot of great musicians more widely known, to me and to others who shared my tastes."
As vanity labels went, Nothing was excellent. All of the above bands plus Squarepusher, Pop Will Eat Itself, 12 Rounds, and it introduced me to The The which alone justifies the enterprise entirely in my eyes.
posted by jason_steakums at 5:29 PM on July 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
As vanity labels went, Nothing was excellent. All of the above bands plus Squarepusher, Pop Will Eat Itself, 12 Rounds, and it introduced me to The The which alone justifies the enterprise entirely in my eyes.
posted by jason_steakums at 5:29 PM on July 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
Video was pretty lame, IMO. It was all "SHOCK! STRANGE IMAGERY THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING! SEIZURE! SHOCK! ORIGINAL IRREPLACEABLE MIND!"
Song, I am afraid I was little meh on. I expect a little more complexity musically from Trent. Did not get in my opinion.
posted by Samizdata at 5:40 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
Song, I am afraid I was little meh on. I expect a little more complexity musically from Trent. Did not get in my opinion.
posted by Samizdata at 5:40 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
jason_steakums: "Blazecock Pileon: "I'm not ashamed to say I got deep into a lot of industrial and IDM partly because of NIN and Reznor's influence on his nothing label. I jumped off to Plug, Coil, MBM, Autechre, Aphex, and from there on to less well-known acts. I am grateful to him for making a lot of great musicians more widely known, to me and to others who shared my tastes."
As vanity labels went, Nothing was excellent. All of the above bands plus Squarepusher, Pop Will Eat Itself, 12 Rounds, and it introduced me to The The which alone justifies the enterprise entirely in my eyes."
Seconding the The The love. Except for the awkward sentence it just made me make.
posted by Samizdata at 6:08 PM on July 2, 2013
As vanity labels went, Nothing was excellent. All of the above bands plus Squarepusher, Pop Will Eat Itself, 12 Rounds, and it introduced me to The The which alone justifies the enterprise entirely in my eyes."
Seconding the The The love. Except for the awkward sentence it just made me make.
posted by Samizdata at 6:08 PM on July 2, 2013
The song took a few listens to grow on me. I think it's quite decent.
This video, however, is a steaming coil of shit and I, personally, could have done better. I don't know jack about making videos, but I can top this.
posted by chimaera at 6:17 PM on July 2, 2013
This video, however, is a steaming coil of shit and I, personally, could have done better. I don't know jack about making videos, but I can top this.
posted by chimaera at 6:17 PM on July 2, 2013
I had a short-lived band called Hesitation Marks back about 12 years ago, named for the wounds left on a body or the damage to a wall by someone pulling out of a suicide attempt at the last minute. I thought it sounded edgy when I was in my early 20's; I'm not so sure how I feel about seeing it come from a middle-aged man now, though.
I dunno. It's dark, but it's, like, hopeful. "Choose life" and all that. (Jitterbug.)
posted by Sys Rq at 6:19 PM on July 2, 2013
I dunno. It's dark, but it's, like, hopeful. "Choose life" and all that. (Jitterbug.)
posted by Sys Rq at 6:19 PM on July 2, 2013
This video, however, is a steaming coil of shit and I, personally, could have done better. I don't know jack about making videos, but I can top this.
I am going to go ahead and say that you probably can't.
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 6:19 PM on July 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
I am going to go ahead and say that you probably can't.
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 6:19 PM on July 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
At least bring out the sitcom rabbits, homeless direction-giving with bloody vomit, and Grace Zabriskie filmed from three inches away.
This doesn't have much to do with the FPP, but I love that Grace Zabriskie is in this season of The Killing because "Twin Peaks except not on acid."
posted by Sys Rq at 6:26 PM on July 2, 2013
This doesn't have much to do with the FPP, but I love that Grace Zabriskie is in this season of The Killing because "Twin Peaks except not on acid."
posted by Sys Rq at 6:26 PM on July 2, 2013
If you watch this in heavy turbulence it's completely stabilized. Recommended.
posted by moonbird at 6:34 PM on July 2, 2013
posted by moonbird at 6:34 PM on July 2, 2013
Also in case any NIN fans missed his collaboration with El-P on I'll Sleep when You're Dead, go check it out. Fantastic. I would listen to an entire album of those 2 working together.
posted by Hoopo at 6:36 PM on July 2, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by Hoopo at 6:36 PM on July 2, 2013 [3 favorites]
It would be amusing to hear someone do a tuba version of this song.
David Lynch needs a Steadicam.
posted by markkraft at 7:00 PM on July 2, 2013
David Lynch needs a Steadicam.
posted by markkraft at 7:00 PM on July 2, 2013
I'm not sure, but I think all that shaking may have been deliberate.
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 7:14 PM on July 2, 2013
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 7:14 PM on July 2, 2013
"It's an artistic statement against quality," Lynch probably said. "When I was coming up, anybody could make a grainey, jerky home movie or video. In fact, that was pretty much your only option unless you were rich or you had the backing of a major studio."
"Now, though," Lynch may have continued, "everybody with a newer generation smart phone has an HD digital videocamera with steadicam feature with them at all times. The only people who can afford retro grainey, jerky videos anymore are the rich and artists with the backing of a major studio."
"Although, I have to admit," the Lynch existing purely in my head concluded, "the 8-shot Americano I had just before shooting the video may have been a mistake."
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 8:25 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
"Now, though," Lynch may have continued, "everybody with a newer generation smart phone has an HD digital videocamera with steadicam feature with them at all times. The only people who can afford retro grainey, jerky videos anymore are the rich and artists with the backing of a major studio."
"Although, I have to admit," the Lynch existing purely in my head concluded, "the 8-shot Americano I had just before shooting the video may have been a mistake."
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 8:25 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
I guess we've gotten to the point now that people expect a certain kind of thing from Lynch and complain when they don't get it and that's as depressing a reason as any for a dude to stop making films.
posted by shakespeherian at 9:23 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by shakespeherian at 9:23 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
Seconding the The The love.
Thirding! Love! Love! Love~ is stronger than death.
Gregg Araki introduced me to The The. Mr. Araki has introduced me to a lot musicians I ended up adoring. Airiel's another favorite.
posted by byanyothername at 9:42 PM on July 2, 2013
Thirding! Love! Love! Love~ is stronger than death.
Gregg Araki introduced me to The The. Mr. Araki has introduced me to a lot musicians I ended up adoring. Airiel's another favorite.
posted by byanyothername at 9:42 PM on July 2, 2013
I don't know; I liked it and found it very much in line with what Lynch has been doing pretty much forever. What is unexpected of him here? Lynch often does surreal, sorta creepy and campy send-ups of Hollywood tropes, often with effects that are just a bit off Enough to be unsettling. Somehow he manages to poke fun at moviemaking cliches at the same time he executes them perfectly, often without the benefit of so much as a cohesive narrative. So here is a surreal, campy send-up of music videos with effects that are just a bit off somehow, that plays with the visual language of music videos, and no it doesn't really go anywhere but if you are expecting anything other than strange dreamlike logic from Lynch at this point you probably haven't been following him closely.
I mean seriously, how has Lynch treated music in his films? Think radiator lady in Eraserhead. Think of all the awkward corny musical moments in Twin Peaks. He is not trying to make a awesome scary Tool-esque video here. He's doing his thing, which is pretty unique to him frankly. I don't know if this is really coming off as an endorsement, but I liked it and like that Lynch is still trying to play with the audience like this.
posted by Hoopo at 10:10 PM on July 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
I mean seriously, how has Lynch treated music in his films? Think radiator lady in Eraserhead. Think of all the awkward corny musical moments in Twin Peaks. He is not trying to make a awesome scary Tool-esque video here. He's doing his thing, which is pretty unique to him frankly. I don't know if this is really coming off as an endorsement, but I liked it and like that Lynch is still trying to play with the audience like this.
posted by Hoopo at 10:10 PM on July 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
How many music videos has David Lynch done for other artists? I know "I Predict" for Sparks, and this one, but any others?
posted by Rev. Syung Myung Me at 10:14 PM on July 2, 2013
posted by Rev. Syung Myung Me at 10:14 PM on July 2, 2013
chimaera: "This video, however, is a steaming coil of shit and I, personally, could have done better. I don't know jack about making videos, but I can top this."
That just might be the hook for NIN's new crowdsourced music video.
posted by pwnguin at 10:28 PM on July 2, 2013
That just might be the hook for NIN's new crowdsourced music video.
posted by pwnguin at 10:28 PM on July 2, 2013
His complete music videos, as far as I am able to tell:
"I Predict" by Sparks
"Unfinished Sympathy" by Massive Attack
"Wicked Game" by Chris Issac
"Dangerous" by Michael Jackson
"Longing" by X Japan
"Thank You Judge" by David Lynch
"Shot in the Back of the Head" by Moby
"I Touch A Red Button Man" by Interpol
"Crazy Clown Time" by David Lynch
And this one.
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 10:34 PM on July 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
"I Predict" by Sparks
"Unfinished Sympathy" by Massive Attack
"Wicked Game" by Chris Issac
"Dangerous" by Michael Jackson
"Longing" by X Japan
"Thank You Judge" by David Lynch
"Shot in the Back of the Head" by Moby
"I Touch A Red Button Man" by Interpol
"Crazy Clown Time" by David Lynch
And this one.
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 10:34 PM on July 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
"Unfinished Sympathy" by Massive Attack
Not Lynch. But it is his steadycam operator. Also fucking amazing.
posted by Artw at 10:42 PM on July 2, 2013
Not Lynch. But it is his steadycam operator. Also fucking amazing.
posted by Artw at 10:42 PM on July 2, 2013
And now I am compelled to watch Protection as well, for no linked reason other than it is also amazing.
posted by Artw at 10:49 PM on July 2, 2013
posted by Artw at 10:49 PM on July 2, 2013
Note: I do not give a fuck about Lynch, have no expectations because I have no real familiarity with his work. I just didn't enjoy it because it looked stupid, while also being painful to watch, and added nothing to the music.
I totally don't watch Tool clips through mostly either.
posted by geek anachronism at 11:24 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
I totally don't watch Tool clips through mostly either.
posted by geek anachronism at 11:24 PM on July 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
Is it weird that my eyes unfocus when I try to watch the video?
This wasn't great, but Lynch's Mulholland Drive is the best thing I've seen in a long time. Go watch it instead.
posted by Quilford at 3:54 AM on July 3, 2013
This wasn't great, but Lynch's Mulholland Drive is the best thing I've seen in a long time. Go watch it instead.
posted by Quilford at 3:54 AM on July 3, 2013
I didn't much care for this video either, in fact, I think the video actually takes away from the quality of the song.
Granted, I never "got" David Lynch. From an outsider's perspective, it feels like for every one person who actually likes and understands him, there are 10 others who liked 'Twin Peaks' because they saw it during their formative years, and are genuinely surprised every time he puts out something else incomprehensible and kind of shit.
posted by Uther Bentrazor at 5:54 AM on July 3, 2013
Granted, I never "got" David Lynch. From an outsider's perspective, it feels like for every one person who actually likes and understands him, there are 10 others who liked 'Twin Peaks' because they saw it during their formative years, and are genuinely surprised every time he puts out something else incomprehensible and kind of shit.
posted by Uther Bentrazor at 5:54 AM on July 3, 2013
Did anyone mention a song from any NIN album post The Fragile in this thread? *does a quick scan* no, I thought not.
Really if an artist is on a journey, and part of that journey involves disappearing for several years to get sober, and then doing a rather brilliant album about becoming sober and addiction and how hard all that is (With Teeth), and then does a pretty brilliant near-future Science Fiction expanded universe piece with a CD at its center but with the biggest most-bad-ass "CD book" in history of CD books (Year Zero), and you're complaining that a single track off a new album recorded a few years after his most recent material (the first album he ever recorded with an actual band in a studio (The Slip)) isn't somehow "now" enough for that artist, ... then pretty much what you're saying is... "I haven't bothered to follow this artist on his journey at all."
On other lines, David Lynch did an entire concert video thing for Duran Duran. Previously. (Bravo for this poster for nearly echoing the title of THAT post.)
posted by hippybear at 12:40 PM on July 3, 2013 [1 favorite]
Really if an artist is on a journey, and part of that journey involves disappearing for several years to get sober, and then doing a rather brilliant album about becoming sober and addiction and how hard all that is (With Teeth), and then does a pretty brilliant near-future Science Fiction expanded universe piece with a CD at its center but with the biggest most-bad-ass "CD book" in history of CD books (Year Zero), and you're complaining that a single track off a new album recorded a few years after his most recent material (the first album he ever recorded with an actual band in a studio (The Slip)) isn't somehow "now" enough for that artist, ... then pretty much what you're saying is... "I haven't bothered to follow this artist on his journey at all."
On other lines, David Lynch did an entire concert video thing for Duran Duran. Previously. (Bravo for this poster for nearly echoing the title of THAT post.)
posted by hippybear at 12:40 PM on July 3, 2013 [1 favorite]
"I haven't bothered to follow this artist on his journey at all."
Well, not enough to name any tracks out of a very samey mid career period, TBH. You got me. That might be more of a problem with those tracks though.
posted by Artw at 12:49 PM on July 3, 2013
Well, not enough to name any tracks out of a very samey mid career period, TBH. You got me. That might be more of a problem with those tracks though.
posted by Artw at 12:49 PM on July 3, 2013
Also, a note about the song -- the lossless format versions of the song sound WAY better than the mp3 or YouTube compression. Especially at a high volume. There's a lot going on, but then Trent has always worked in layers.
Being a fanboy, I have the vinyl / CD on order. I also have GA floor tickets to see them when they come to Spokane. The Lights In The Sky tour was one of the most mindbending exhibits of technology put to excellent service in support of music I have ever seen. He says this new tour will be the "logical extension" of that. My mind is already blown.
(Now if he's just release the damn 5.1 surround version of The Fragile he's been teasing us about for 4 years now...)
posted by hippybear at 12:51 PM on July 3, 2013
Being a fanboy, I have the vinyl / CD on order. I also have GA floor tickets to see them when they come to Spokane. The Lights In The Sky tour was one of the most mindbending exhibits of technology put to excellent service in support of music I have ever seen. He says this new tour will be the "logical extension" of that. My mind is already blown.
(Now if he's just release the damn 5.1 surround version of The Fragile he's been teasing us about for 4 years now...)
posted by hippybear at 12:51 PM on July 3, 2013
That might be more of a problem with those tracks though.
Or a problem with your desire to pay attention to him, which may be the same thing. Seriously, though, With Teeth and Year Zero are great albums, and entirely not "samey". Give them another listen.
posted by hippybear at 12:52 PM on July 3, 2013 [1 favorite]
Or a problem with your desire to pay attention to him, which may be the same thing. Seriously, though, With Teeth and Year Zero are great albums, and entirely not "samey". Give them another listen.
posted by hippybear at 12:52 PM on July 3, 2013 [1 favorite]
Year Zero could be completly brilliant and a single that's a lame retread of early stuff would still be a lame retread of early stuff - I really don't think it's the secret key to not finding this a bit of a disappointment after some of the more interesting side stuff.
posted by Artw at 12:57 PM on July 3, 2013
posted by Artw at 12:57 PM on July 3, 2013
Yeah, With Teeth and Year Zero are not samey in the least, no more so than Black Tie, White Noise and 1. Outside (or Graduation and 808s and Heartbreak) are samey. If anything, those two albums represent two different sides of NIN - traditional rock on one side, experimental aggression on the other side.
posted by Sticherbeast at 12:59 PM on July 3, 2013
posted by Sticherbeast at 12:59 PM on July 3, 2013
I'm curious to hear it in context. The Hand That Feeds just annoyed me until I heard it as part of the complete album.
posted by hippybear at 12:59 PM on July 3, 2013
posted by hippybear at 12:59 PM on July 3, 2013
hippybear: "I'm curious to hear it in context. The Hand That Feeds just annoyed me until I heard it as part of the complete album."
Same here. And yeah, Year Zero and With Teeth and The Slip are all quite different and I fail to see the sameness - I'm not the biggest fan of With Teeth, but Year Zero was something I loved deeply when I first heard it and still put it on rotation. It is something that needs to be listened to and read in context though - if you throw it on expecting The Fragile v2, well, you will be disappoint.
I mean, the criticisms of either 'too much the same' or 'not enough like early stuff' are a little inane.
posted by geek anachronism at 8:21 PM on July 3, 2013
Same here. And yeah, Year Zero and With Teeth and The Slip are all quite different and I fail to see the sameness - I'm not the biggest fan of With Teeth, but Year Zero was something I loved deeply when I first heard it and still put it on rotation. It is something that needs to be listened to and read in context though - if you throw it on expecting The Fragile v2, well, you will be disappoint.
I mean, the criticisms of either 'too much the same' or 'not enough like early stuff' are a little inane.
posted by geek anachronism at 8:21 PM on July 3, 2013
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And his soundtrack stuff has been great of course.
This I am not sold on yet - seems like a bit of a weak copy of older stuff.
posted by Artw at 2:47 PM on July 2, 2013 [2 favorites]