Meanwhile in Rio de Janeiro…
July 24, 2013 7:08 PM Subscribe
Brazilian people against the costs of Pope’s Visit.
Video of Clashes in Brazil Appears to Show Police Infiltrators among Protesters, including throwing a molotov cocktail.
Much of the reporting outside of MSM of these and earlier protests is being done by the Midia Ninja collective.
Video of Clashes in Brazil Appears to Show Police Infiltrators among Protesters, including throwing a molotov cocktail.
Much of the reporting outside of MSM of these and earlier protests is being done by the Midia Ninja collective.
It would seem that these protestors don't know that the Jesuit is on their side
There is really no incompatibility between "This prominent person has said things that favor the poor" and "The government of this country could spend $52,000,000 USD (according to the link) on better things, such as poor people, than having that prominent person visit the country."
posted by Tomorrowful at 7:38 PM on July 24, 2013 [15 favorites]
There is really no incompatibility between "This prominent person has said things that favor the poor" and "The government of this country could spend $52,000,000 USD (according to the link) on better things, such as poor people, than having that prominent person visit the country."
posted by Tomorrowful at 7:38 PM on July 24, 2013 [15 favorites]
Those are some moving photos.
But lately, Brazil doesn't want to pay for anything - the pope, the soccer World Cup, the Olympics. Brazil is starting to sound like my dad.
posted by Metro Gnome at 7:42 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
But lately, Brazil doesn't want to pay for anything - the pope, the soccer World Cup, the Olympics. Brazil is starting to sound like my dad.
posted by Metro Gnome at 7:42 PM on July 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
It would seem that these protestors don't know that the Jesuit is on their side.
Then he could've offered to pick up the tab.
But it's not about him. It's about Brazil's priorities.
posted by rtha at 7:59 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Then he could've offered to pick up the tab.
But it's not about him. It's about Brazil's priorities.
posted by rtha at 7:59 PM on July 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
But lately, Brazil doesn't want to pay for anything - the pope, the soccer World Cup, the Olympics.
Au contraire. The protestors definitely want spending - but on boring stuff like education, health and other public services.
posted by pompomtom at 8:22 PM on July 24, 2013 [24 favorites]
Au contraire. The protestors definitely want spending - but on boring stuff like education, health and other public services.
posted by pompomtom at 8:22 PM on July 24, 2013 [24 favorites]
I can understand how the Pope can't pay for his own security detail. The Vatican is notoriously poor, due to their long-standing reluctance to horde wealth, their lack of interest in earthly treasure, and their long-standing tradition of dispersing any property they acquire to the poor.
posted by Mitrovarr at 8:34 PM on July 24, 2013 [39 favorites]
posted by Mitrovarr at 8:34 PM on July 24, 2013 [39 favorites]
What is education, health or even 130 old trees compared to a visit from a man in a pointy hat?
posted by greenhornet at 8:41 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
posted by greenhornet at 8:41 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
No no no, not these bread and circuses; we want those bread and circuses.
posted by resurrexit at 9:07 PM on July 24, 2013
posted by resurrexit at 9:07 PM on July 24, 2013
What a humble man.
posted by triceryclops at 9:13 PM on July 24, 2013
posted by triceryclops at 9:13 PM on July 24, 2013
It seems to me that the protest is more like "More bread, fewer circuses".
posted by pompomtom at 9:28 PM on July 24, 2013 [6 favorites]
posted by pompomtom at 9:28 PM on July 24, 2013 [6 favorites]
Well I heard the new pope got rid of the 3 foot tall pope hat, gold scepter and big gold throne so that's a start after 2000 years. I guess.
posted by ishrinkmajeans at 9:28 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by ishrinkmajeans at 9:28 PM on July 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
When they factor in the additional cost of responding to a riot, they riot even more, police escalate, and so on. I think I did that math problem in calc class.
posted by michaelh at 10:03 PM on July 24, 2013
posted by michaelh at 10:03 PM on July 24, 2013
Video of Clashes in Brazil Appears to Show Police Infiltrators among Protesters, including throwing a molotov cocktail.
Ah, now there's a familiar story.
posted by Pope Guilty at 10:55 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
Ah, now there's a familiar story.
posted by Pope Guilty at 10:55 PM on July 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
If I get a pair of those boots does that make me a secret policeman?
posted by longbaugh at 11:50 PM on July 24, 2013
posted by longbaugh at 11:50 PM on July 24, 2013
Only if you pay for them out of pocket.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 12:58 AM on July 25, 2013
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 12:58 AM on July 25, 2013
The Pope is helping the poor by raising awareness of the inequality of Brazilian society. This just shows how well he's doing.
posted by Segundus at 1:06 AM on July 25, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by Segundus at 1:06 AM on July 25, 2013 [1 favorite]
> ...the football mad dimwits will still turn out in droves to support the national team.
What the fuck are you talking about? Opposition within Brazil to hosting the World Cup has been going on for years.
Protests in multiple cities have been making international news for weeks if not months. Hosting the World Cup is a part of this and has been the basis for global attention, but the primary issue is the corruption in government and cronyism that, in part, leads to the diversion of massive public funds to a series of high-profile events (Papal visit, World Cup, Olympics) that do not benefit the public.
posted by ardgedee at 4:03 AM on July 25, 2013 [2 favorites]
What the fuck are you talking about? Opposition within Brazil to hosting the World Cup has been going on for years.
Protests in multiple cities have been making international news for weeks if not months. Hosting the World Cup is a part of this and has been the basis for global attention, but the primary issue is the corruption in government and cronyism that, in part, leads to the diversion of massive public funds to a series of high-profile events (Papal visit, World Cup, Olympics) that do not benefit the public.
posted by ardgedee at 4:03 AM on July 25, 2013 [2 favorites]
If I get a pair of those boots does that make me a secret policeman?
It does if you and your secret policeman buddies wear the same boots as your police coworkers.
posted by Pope Guilty at 5:25 AM on July 25, 2013 [1 favorite]
It does if you and your secret policeman buddies wear the same boots as your police coworkers.
posted by Pope Guilty at 5:25 AM on July 25, 2013 [1 favorite]
I should explain: Nobody knew those guys, and they were called out as cops at a Canadian protest for trying to incite violence. None of the protestors were having it, and were calling them cops, so they ambled on over to the police line and were gently "arrested", never to be seen again.
posted by Pope Guilty at 5:27 AM on July 25, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by Pope Guilty at 5:27 AM on July 25, 2013 [1 favorite]
As far as catholicism goes the church in Brazil need not to sack priests like Roberto Francisco Daniel.
However this FPP was not about the Pope or his followers but about Police infiltration which is largely being first reported through Citizen Journalism. Here are two more (portuguese).
More about Media Ninja from Christian Science Monitor and WSJ
Brazil is facing an upswing in violence by their paramilitary police forces as shown previously.
The visit of Papa Francis is being used by people as an opportunity to continue to have their voice heard by the world about cronyism and corruption and a possible right wing coup.
posted by adamvasco at 9:04 AM on July 25, 2013 [1 favorite]
However this FPP was not about the Pope or his followers but about Police infiltration which is largely being first reported through Citizen Journalism. Here are two more (portuguese).
More about Media Ninja from Christian Science Monitor and WSJ
Brazil is facing an upswing in violence by their paramilitary police forces as shown previously.
The visit of Papa Francis is being used by people as an opportunity to continue to have their voice heard by the world about cronyism and corruption and a possible right wing coup.
posted by adamvasco at 9:04 AM on July 25, 2013 [1 favorite]
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