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Emo has made a resurgence. With the recent Saves The Day tour, popularity of bands like Joyce Manor, The World Is a Beautiful Place & I Am No Longer Afraid to Die, and Pianos Become the Teeth, its safe to say that the oft derided musical style known as emo has made a resurgence.
posted by MisantropicPainforest (68 comments total) 11 users marked this as a favorite
 
I'm waiting for the new generation of crabcore bands - a "second scuttle" to evoke nostalgia for the heady days when everyone still used Blackberry phones.

No. No, I'm not.
posted by Slap*Happy at 10:13 AM on August 21, 2013 [5 favorites]


"Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps."
 
posted by Herodios at 10:25 AM on August 21, 2013 [3 favorites]


What has been--about 10 years from the first surge in popularity? Looks like Emo kids must have some disposable income or something.
posted by TrialByMedia at 10:26 AM on August 21, 2013


In pog form.
posted by Ghostride The Whip at 10:28 AM on August 21, 2013 [2 favorites]


Your favorite genre of music sucks.
posted by Rob Rockets at 10:29 AM on August 21, 2013


* cries *
posted by Curious Artificer at 10:29 AM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


I was hoping it was going to be Emo Philips.
posted by iotic at 10:36 AM on August 21, 2013 [17 favorites]


What has been--about 10 years from the first surge in popularity?

15-20 years, although 10 since it became a household word. So you could be right about the surplus disposable income, but the reason for it is that the kids finally moved out of the house and mom and dad can buy records again.
posted by griphus at 10:39 AM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


Too many beards - Beardo?
posted by fallingbadgers at 10:39 AM on August 21, 2013


If by Crabcore you mean Annapolis, MD Revolution Summer-era HC bands like Spastic Rats, Hated, and Moss Icon, then yes. Please. That's the only Crabcore I'm aware of, as documented in Barc zine.
-John Irvine, Hated
posted by jetsetsc at 10:40 AM on August 21, 2013 [3 favorites]


All the emo you need.
posted by josher71 at 10:49 AM on August 21, 2013


Huh. Turns out some of my favorite bands are emo, and I didn't realize it was a thing you're not supposed to like. Sense Field, Sunny Day Real Estate, The Fire Theft, Jimmy Eat World ... I'll continue to enjoy them, thanks.
posted by jbickers at 10:50 AM on August 21, 2013


Resurrect Mineral and get Texas is the Reason to play DC again and then we can talk.
posted by playertobenamedlater at 10:55 AM on August 21, 2013 [4 favorites]


I was in an emo band once. We even had a song where the chorus was "I'm Sorry!".
posted by josher71 at 11:00 AM on August 21, 2013 [7 favorites]


I had the read the headline several times before I realized this post was not about Elmo.
posted by GuyZero at 11:01 AM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


I miss the days when Fugazi and the like were "emo", but hey. I welcome any music of passion, whatever you want to call it.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 11:06 AM on August 21, 2013 [5 favorites]


Turns out some of my favorite bands are emo, and I didn't realize it was a thing you're not supposed to like.

My first or second day on the job at the Punk Rock Store, I was talking to my manager Rob, who was maybe ten years older than me and used to be in a band during the mid-90s. We started talking about emo for whatever reason. The conversation went something (possibly nothing at all) like this:

Me: "Ugh, emo, that stuff is terrible."
Him: "Oh, I used to listen to a bunch of it back when I was in a band."
"And ...you're openly admitting that?"
"Yeah, why wouldn't I?"
"I dunno, dude, I'd be kind of embarrassed to tell people I like emo."
"What the fuck do I care what other people think I should like? Never be ashamed about anything you enjoy."

I'm not terribly fond of emo, but I still think back to that conversation whenever I find myself enjoying something I'm not supposed to as per the Laws of Coolness.

And, reader, I got that Ke$ha album.
posted by griphus at 11:07 AM on August 21, 2013 [14 favorites]


How many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb?

None. Emo kids prefer to sit in the dark while making mixtapes for their ex-girlfriends.

(Lots of emo bands are pretty cool. I mean no offense. It's just a silly joke. Please enjoy any and all things you like undeterred.)
posted by DirtyOldTown at 11:07 AM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


Pianos Become the Teeth are great. They're part of a resurgence of 90's-style pop-punk/hardcore/post-hardcore bands with other groups like Touche Amore and Balance and Composure. If you listened to Jawbreaker and can't get excited about Title Fight then something is wrong with you. All those people who loved Jawbreaker and Texas is the Reason and Promise Ring need new bands, and a lot of these kids are doing some awesome work.

I gotta say, really bad call on the "emo" framing on this post though. And throwing Saves the Day in there. These other bands are still playing basement shows and you want to lump Saves the Day in with them?
posted by windbox at 11:11 AM on August 21, 2013 [5 favorites]


I wasn't sure which breed of "emo" this post was referring to. I'm glad it's the kind I dug in my youth.

Thx for the pointers, windbox. It's so great to hear that sound back again!
posted by wemayfreeze at 11:22 AM on August 21, 2013


"Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps."
posted by Herodios at 10:25 AM on August 21 [+][!]

I was hoping it was going to be Emo Philips.
posted by iotic at 10:36 AM on August 21 [6 favorites +][!]




*sigh*
 
posted by Herodios at 11:25 AM on August 21, 2013 [2 favorites]


Here's Rainer Maria's last song ever :(

Rise ā€” December 17, 2006 ā€” North Six, Brooklyn
posted by wemayfreeze at 11:29 AM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


This just sounds like 'indie' to me. Things these days get sub-categorized into oblivion. There's a really fine line between a lot of this music that people lament and early Smashing Pumpkins.

I'm sure this is 'emo' but I enjoy it: Radical Face - Welcome Home
posted by jimmythefish at 11:49 AM on August 21, 2013


I'm waiting for the new generation of crabcore bands

YES!

I forgot I had posted that
posted by fungible at 11:53 AM on August 21, 2013


SECOND-WAVE 4 LIFE

Sunny Day Real Estate, Braid, Promise Ring, Appleseed Cast, American Football, Get Up Kids - that shit never went out of style in my book. It wasn't too long before it morphed into something unrecognizable, but goddamn, for a few seconds it was glorious.
posted by naju at 12:03 PM on August 21, 2013 [13 favorites]


saves the day tour oh god checking if uk dates may not return if not
posted by ominous_paws at 12:08 PM on August 21, 2013


Don't forget Far & Hey Mercedes.
posted by dr_dank at 12:09 PM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


I saw Braid reunited at SXSW a couple years ago and it was glorious.

And I was lucky enough to catch one of the few Cap'n Jazz reunion shows. It was DOUBLE glorious. :)
posted by wemayfreeze at 12:11 PM on August 21, 2013 [2 favorites]


...the oft derided musical style known as emo

I wasn't aware of any derision toward the genre. The fans, maybe.
posted by rocket88 at 12:21 PM on August 21, 2013


From my hazy recollections of middle/highschool the kids hating on 'emo' in the mid-2000s were the same kind of kids who said 'fag' a lot and listened to Puddle of Mudd.
posted by thsmchnekllsfascists at 12:21 PM on August 21, 2013


And throwing Saves the Day in there. These other bands are still playing basement shows and you want to lump Saves the Day in with them?

Saves The Day, Joyce Manor, and Pianos Become the Teeth all played or are playing Philadelphia's Union Transfer.



I gotta say, really bad call on the "emo" framing on this post though. Its not a framing, emo is literally what this post is about.
posted by MisantropicPainforest at 12:24 PM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


I'm tempted to suggest that there's something of the insider/outsider dynamic to assigning essentially arbitrary labels to finer and finer gradations of the same general sort of thing, but I'm sure that's considered consistent only with a post-nihilist passive-performative pseudo-essentialist worldview. And we all know just how passé that is.
posted by Emperor SnooKloze at 12:29 PM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


you must be great at parties
posted by ominous_paws at 12:32 PM on August 21, 2013 [2 favorites]


Just popping in here to say that Whenever, If Ever, The World Is a Beautiful Place & I Am No Longer Afraid to Die's new record, is friggin really good.

...Oh wow, it got 7.8 at Pitchfork of all places.*

* One of the first hits when I searched the name of it. Then was curious about PF reviewing it.
posted by General Malaise at 12:35 PM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


Yeah clearly naju and I are of the same emo generation here. I was front row for Texas is the Reason for their reunion/last ever tour this year and after the show someone I was talking to called me "the girl that knew every word to every song." 90s emo or GTFO.
posted by misskaz at 12:44 PM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


I don't know. When Policy of Three makes a comeback, you can tell me emo is back.
posted by xmutex at 12:45 PM on August 21, 2013 [4 favorites]


From my hazy recollections of middle/highschool the kids hating on 'emo' in the mid-2000s were the same kind of kids who said 'fag' a lot and listened to Puddle of Mudd.

There were also a fair number of older brother types who just didn't understand how the younger sibs we'd tried to bring up on Bad Religion and the Misfits ended up crying along to Dashboard Confessional Unplugged.

I'm old enough that I wouldn't say those of us in the latter camp were any less snotty or off base. But it certainly bears mention that at least half the anti-emo backlash came from other indie and emo people who just couldnt grok that particular flavor of heart on sleeve.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 12:48 PM on August 21, 2013


I totally get emo now, FWIW. But I think my resistance to it, which was based on a limited idea of punk rock, was more typical than lunkheads who were just shitty people with shitty taste.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 12:58 PM on August 21, 2013 [2 favorites]


I was listening to the Dan Patrick show on ESPN when I heard The Get Up Kids used as a bumper and I actually thought "I wish there were more bands that sounded like these old bands". Something to Write Home about is *still* one of my favorite records to this day! Will never forget the night I got to see TGUK, Co-Ed, Ultimate Fakebook, and ATDI in a crowded little all ages club of 200 sweaty kids at the Foxfire Cafe in Minneapolis. Mineral, Knapsack, SDRE, Braid, American Football, Decembers Architect, Promise Ring, Rainer Maria - that shit changed my life. It's great to see this sound coming back.
posted by cuomofied at 1:02 PM on August 21, 2013 [4 favorites]


Oooooh! And old Pedro The Lion!
posted by cuomofied at 1:02 PM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


Holy crap, Pedro the Lion is awesome. We could burn a whole thread just on great David Bazan lines.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 1:08 PM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


I was in my late 20s in the late '90s when a guy who worked at the coffee shop with me turned me on to Sunny Day Real Estate, Promise Ring, Modest Mouse, Braid, etc., and I loved it. I remember thinking "I wish I had had music like this when I was in high school." Still helps me get in touch with my inner angsty adolescent. Looking very forward to checking out all these new bands!
posted by Clustercuss at 1:12 PM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


I am STILL trying to figure out how to play "The Bells". The bass and guitar blend and switch octaves so much that it's maddening.
posted by cuomofied at 1:13 PM on August 21, 2013


I'm pretty into the Villa Emo. And Tintoretto's portrait of Emo. They don't make Emo like that anymore.
posted by octobersurprise at 1:26 PM on August 21, 2013


Wow that The World is a Beautiful Place album just made my day. So happy to discover new emo! One of my old school favorites : One Candle Power
posted by banjo_and_the_pork at 1:51 PM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


..better than another revival of The Doors.
posted by bonobothegreat at 2:00 PM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


Meet Emil, the Emo Emu.
posted by oneswellfoop at 2:09 PM on August 21, 2013


griphus: "I dunno, dude, I'd be kind of embarrassed to tell people I like emo."
"What the fuck do I care what other people think I should like? Never be ashamed about anything you enjoy."

I'm not terribly fond of emo, but I still think back to that conversation whenever I find myself enjoying something I'm not supposed to as per the Laws of Coolness.

And, reader, I got that Ke$ha album.
[Fade-in to a window-lit room, empty except for metal folding chairs arranged in a rough circle, all occupied.]

"Hi, I'm griphus, and I... I mean me.. um,... my band sucks."

(Everyone, in loose chorus:) "Hi, griphus!"
posted by IAmBroom at 2:33 PM on August 21, 2013


From my hazy recollections of middle/highschool the kids hating on 'emo' in the mid-2000s were the same kind of kids who said 'fag' a lot and listened to Puddle of Mudd.

I didn't much like it, but I didn't like the people who hated it, either. In high school, I worked at the local REI. One of my co-workers liked classic rock; another preferred emo. We would chat and listen to the radio as we folded and sorted clothing in the back room. The first kid always said that Creedence Clearwater Revival was way better than whatever the second kid listened to. Naturally, he didn't know any of the second kid's bands other than My Chemical Romance. The second kid said that Creedence wasn't emotional. He disliked them. The first kid couldn't believe this, so he argued the merits. They never resolved the difference. Instead, they kept switching the radio from WROR to WFNX and back.

During break, we would all ignore the radio and play Tony Hawk on the breakroom Playstation. We kept the music turned up.
posted by Rustic Etruscan at 2:44 PM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


I always thought that the moment something was recognized as emo instantly made it not-emo anymore.
posted by Sprocket at 2:55 PM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


I'll be at The Granada in Lawrence to see Saves The Day. It will be great, but won't be as good as that sweet spot around the turn of the century when it was normal for Chris to do things like dedicate "This Is Not An Exit" to the Pope brothers (The Get Up Kids) who were standing to the side of the stage....

Sunny Day Real Estate, Braid, Promise Ring, Appleseed Cast, American Football...
sigh. Fall can't come soon enough.
posted by wannabepre at 2:59 PM on August 21, 2013 [3 favorites]


"What the fuck do I care what other people think I should like? Never be ashamed about anything you enjoy."

I had a similar experience when I learned that some punk rockers I looked up to dug my secret love, Tom Petty.
posted by drezdn at 3:53 PM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


OH MY GOD best post. I am such an emo kid and have been since my cousin showed me Saves The Day's albums "Can't Slow Down" and "Through Being Cool" (of which I have a tattoo of on my arm) when I was in 5th grade. Still my favorite band and those two albums are still listened to, although I think that goes without saying.

First of all, the ultimate guide to emo: What the heck *is* emo, anyway? featuring the vocalist of Still Life on the front page, ran by someone who use to be in Funeral Diner.

I am of the opinion that Algernon Cadwallader is what brought on this (fourth?) wave of emo. If you are into really techy/"mathy" guitar parts, as if Don Caballero were a screamo band, then you should check them out, especially if you enjoy whining, screaming vocals.

I just saw The World Is... on tour with Pity Sex and Dads. They played a basement and I was shocked that they got on Billboard, and now Pitchfork (I am not sure which one is more shocking).

Geeze louise, can I just go on about my favorite bands? After my cousin got me into Saves the Day I went berserk looking up every band I could find, but I mostly used that fourfa.com site for my guide.

All of the DC stuff basically, but obviously Embrace and Rites of Spring. Hot Water Music. Drive Like Jehu. Cowboys Became Folk Heroes. Newer stuff like Raein and Daitro. Toru Okada. I have a threeway split of Jimmy Eat World, Sense Field, and Mineral.

I have to leave to pack to go to LA for FYF Fest but I will come back to this post later and continue my nostalgia. With that, I must leave everyone with my favorite emo band of all time:

Boys Life.

Fire Engine Red
Painted Smiles
Sleeping Off Summer
posted by gucci mane at 4:07 PM on August 21, 2013 [4 favorites]


banjo_and_the_pork: One of my old school favorites : One Candle Power

Oh wow. One of my favourite live music memories involved One Candle Power. In 2003 they played a house show in my town. Everyone there was instantly converted; in the middle of their first song we looked sideways at each other in disbelief about how goddamn good they were. Later that night we piled into a tiny bar where they played a second show. When "the calendar's in flames" started everyone kind of inexplicably stood up on chairs and earnestly sang their hearts out to lyrics they had first heard only hours before. The band fed off our excitement, and it's still one of the best shows I've ever seen.

Thanks for the reminder. I still have their albums.

And thank god for this resurgence, whatever it may be, because I finally got to see Braid a few months ago. I probably also have things to say about the definition of emo, but I've been doing that for what feels like 15 years and I guess I'm tapped out.
posted by 1UP at 4:26 PM on August 21, 2013 [3 favorites]


With that, I must leave everyone with my favorite emo band of all time:

Boys Life.


*listens*
*falls instantly in love*
posted by naju at 4:30 PM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


Goddamnit. How could I forget to mention Still Life?

By the way, I paid $55 on Stubhub to see Cap'n Jazz.

Braid had one really kick ass song and then a bunch of just crap.
posted by playertobenamedlater at 4:58 PM on August 21, 2013


The username 'MisanthropicPainforest' is quite possibly the most emo thing I've ever heard.

(I feel somewhat authoritative on this subject, given my username.)

Some awesome recommendations in this thread.
posted by namewithoutwords at 5:01 PM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


bah, Misantropic. Reading is fundamental.
posted by namewithoutwords at 5:04 PM on August 21, 2013


Relatedly, Moss Icon's Complete Discography was reissued last year. Still love all 11 insane minutes of this song. And "I'm Back Sleeping or Fucking or Something."
posted by 1UP at 5:16 PM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


Yeah ok but also we could not do this too. Wouldnt that be nice as well?
posted by Senor Cardgage at 5:31 PM on August 21, 2013 [1 favorite]


This is what people meant when they talked about emo in the 2000's? To me, "emo" always meant things like bob tilton, Clikatat Ikatowi, and Still Life (among many others).

I would love for this stuff to make a comeback.
posted by deadbilly at 7:22 PM on August 21, 2013 [2 favorites]


It went away in the first place? You sure this isn't just people getting nostalgic after the breakup of MCR?
posted by limeonaire at 9:29 PM on August 21, 2013


If you like clikatat / drive like jehu, you might also like the lesser known emery
posted by FuturisticDragon at 10:30 PM on August 21, 2013 [2 favorites]


Great post. Really liking the music!
posted by professor plum with a rope at 2:05 AM on August 22, 2013


In particular Appleseed Cast and The World Is
posted by professor plum with a rope at 2:33 AM on August 22, 2013


Hooray! I've been sad about not knowing who to listen to now that The Juliana Theory is gone. Lots of lovely new things to listen to from this thread.
posted by SeedStitch at 12:38 PM on August 22, 2013


Mad late but yeah, that The World Is... album is legit. Especially the guitar sound, not too much overproduced crunch (NoFx's terrible influence on the late 90s). The drums are complex but restrained and the multi-vocalist yodeling is mixed well so it doesn't seem too chaotic. Pitchfork compared them to early Arcade Fire and I think that's fair. But I think they're doing a bit more than just updating nostalgia, there's post-rock and post-punk elements mixed in, and vocal cadences that are more like spoken word than the same lame whining and screeching that emo descended to by the mid00s. Time will tell I guess.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 7:43 AM on August 29, 2013 [1 favorite]


Also late a bit, since I was busy in LA and got back recently. Gonna make a huge post of emo and screamo.

Embrace:
I Wish I
Give Me Back
Money

Rites of Spring:
End on End (full album)
For Want Of

Dag Nasty:
Can I Say (full album)
Travis Barker has "Can I Say" tattooed across his chest. I was so stoked to figure out it was this album.

Moss Icon:
I'm Back Sleeping, or Fucking, or Something
Hate in Me
Memorial

The Nation of Ulysses:
Plays Pretty for Baby (full album)
Spectra Sonic Sound
I love Ian Svenonius, even bought his book a while ago. I hope I still have it. His show that was on Vice was a favorite, too. A lot of good interviews with artists on there.

Indian Summer:
Orchard
Angry Son
I also love Marc Bianchi, his later stuff under the "Her Space Holiday" moniker is great.

Drive Like Jehu:
Here Come the Rome Plows
Caress
Do You Compute

Christie Front Drive:
Field
About Two Days
Saturday

The Promise Ring:
Red and Blue Jeans
Why Did We Ever Meet?
Nothing Feels Good

Mineral:
The Power of Failing (full album)
One of my favorite albums of all time. The vocalist, Christopher Simpson, does some singing on the drone album "Pyramids with Nadja" on the track "Another War". If you can find it it's really, really spectacular. I love his vocals.

Texas Is The Reason:
If It's Here When We Get Back It's Ours
Blue Boy
Jack With One Eye

Sunny Day Real Estate:
Diary (full album)
Red Elephant
The Ocean
Obligatory. I saw them on their reunion tour and it was great. Love the remasters of Diary and LP2.

Cowboys Became Folk Heroes:
Direct Action Gets the Goods
A Conversation with Myself
Papaya

Raein:
Tigersuit
Nati Da Altri Padri
The King is Dead

Daitro:
Laissez Vivre Les Squelettes
Nous Sommes D'Ici

Saetia:
Some Cultures Catch No Plagues
Closed Hands
An Open Letter

City of Caterpillar:
A Little Change Could Go A Long Ways
Fucking Hero
And You're Wondering How A Top Floor Could Replace Heaven

Joshua Fit for Battle:
Sleepwalker's Guide
To Bring Our Own End

Toru Okada:
Our Great Cities
Kiss Me Through the Computer Screen
Shadowless Nights

I Hate Myself:
To A Husband At War
Caught In A Flood
Ten Songs (full album)

Circle Takes the Square:
A Crater to Cough In
CrowQuill
Same Shade as Concrete

I Would Set Myself On Fire For You:
Three
Twelve
This Is Not Mine

I think I've exhausted myself now. If my own computer were working I'd post a lot more since I could just go through my music library. There use to be a mediafire folder someone made with a TON of emo, including insanely rare stuff, like super rare 7" and splits, that I can't find anywhere other than private torrent websites.
posted by gucci mane at 12:38 PM on August 31, 2013 [2 favorites]


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