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One Frightening Sign That Our Entire Cultural Discourse Is Converging Into Listicles
posted by RogerB at 12:23 PM on September 26, 2013 [11 favorites]


> I thought about the kiss a lot, and I could feel her soul on my lips.

It could be worse. My wife's best friend has an ex-boyfriend who referred to having sex as "touching souls."
posted by The Card Cheat at 12:29 PM on September 26, 2013 [5 favorites]


To give you just a little hint of deeply affected I was by this article: I briefly considered looking up who James Franco is.
posted by Wolfdog at 12:30 PM on September 26, 2013 [6 favorites]


I wonder what would happen if James Franco and Kanye West were BFFs. What would their facebook conversations be like? Someone make this happen and put it on TV.
posted by Ad hominem at 12:31 PM on September 26, 2013 [12 favorites]


Is he Ian from High Fidelity, The Card Cheat?
posted by Ghostride The Whip at 12:32 PM on September 26, 2013 [1 favorite]


Mmm I love me some James Franco. Not as much as he loves him, but mmm. I saw "This Is the End" this summer with my kids (lolz pot jokes with your kids, hilarious) and he was great! Very self-parodying. Also mmm.

To give you just a little hint of deeply affected I was by this article: I briefly considered looking up who James Franco is.

I bet you're too cool to watch TV, too.
posted by headnsouth at 12:35 PM on September 26, 2013 [4 favorites]


Is being too cool to watch TV something you need a TV to have heard of?
posted by Carillon at 12:38 PM on September 26, 2013 [17 favorites]


The 7 Most James Edward Franco lines in James Edward Franco’s New Oulipo Novel, Major Fensac Confers:

"A war menaced fjords."
"Fensac rode Raj-ward."
"Raja & sword faced men."
"Fenced, a major draws."
"Major Fensac warded."
"Fensac, jarred: 'Ow! Damn!'"
"Raja, defamed, crowns Fensac."
posted by Iridic at 12:39 PM on September 26, 2013 [16 favorites]


Am I missing some sort of webfont in order to see this without all the awful artifacts on the letters? I tried Chrome too, is it "on purpose"?
posted by cavalier at 12:41 PM on September 26, 2013


I don't see awful artifacts on the letters (in Chrome), but damn how I wish I did.
posted by penduluum at 12:42 PM on September 26, 2013 [2 favorites]


He writes in such a way that you can't call him out for being dumb, pretentious, or vapid, because he's really self-conscious of that, but it's nevertheless dumb, pretentious and vapid.
posted by ChuckRamone at 12:43 PM on September 26, 2013 [4 favorites]


Also: I guess those are some pretty good reasons to fall asleep in class, dude, but dude, you still fell asleep in class.

If you see what I'm saying.
posted by penduluum at 12:44 PM on September 26, 2013


You guys snark all you want, I'm gonna be thinking hard about how I can get better at being my own Scorsese.
posted by prize bull octorok at 12:54 PM on September 26, 2013 [1 favorite]


It could be worse. My wife's best friend has an ex-boyfriend who referred to having sex as "touching souls."

I'm afraid Joni is to blame for that line.
posted by mykescipark at 12:56 PM on September 26, 2013


I tried being my own Scorsese, and ended up being my own Kevin Smith.
posted by The Power Nap at 12:57 PM on September 26, 2013 [12 favorites]


This book is a work of fiction, right? Why are they listing quotes as if they actually say something about him? Is my crush on James Franco showing?
posted by orme at 12:57 PM on September 26, 2013 [2 favorites]


Dude's no Ethan Hawke, that's for sure.
posted by dortmunder at 12:57 PM on September 26, 2013


No matter who came up with it, it still manages to sound grosser than any number of more explicit come-ons would be...kind of like when 50 Cent says "Come give me a hug."
posted by The Card Cheat at 12:58 PM on September 26, 2013


This book is a work of fiction, right? Why are they listing quotes as if they actually say something about him? Is my crush on James Franco showing?

James Franco is a character in the novel. Meta!

The actors in James Franco’s brilliant debut novel include a McDonald’s drive-thru operator who spends his shift trying on accents; an ex-child star recalling a massive beachside bacchanal; hospital volunteers and Midwestern transplants; a vampire flick starlet who discovers a cryptic book written by a famous actor gone AWOL; and the ghost of River Phoenix. Then there’s Franco himself, who prowls backstage, peering out between the lines—before taking the stage with fascinating meditations on his art, along with nightmarish tales of excess. “Hollywood has always been a private club,” he writes. “I open the gates. I say welcome. I say, Look inside.”

Told in a dizzying array of styles—from lyric essays and disarming testimonials to hilariously rambling text messages and ghostly footnotes—and loosely modeled on Alcoholics Anonymous’s Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions, Actors Anonymous is an intense, wild ride into the dark heart of celebrity.

posted by fearfulsymmetry at 1:02 PM on September 26, 2013 [1 favorite]


I bet you're too cool to watch TV, too.
I just now briefly considered looking up what a TV is.
posted by Wolfdog at 1:02 PM on September 26, 2013 [16 favorites]


Ad hominem: "I wonder what would happen if James Franco and Kanye West were BFFs. What would their facebook conversations be like? Someone make this happen and put it on TV."

This has already happened... about 300 billion years ago, at the dead center of what we now call "the Milky Way".
posted by IAmBroom at 1:03 PM on September 26, 2013 [12 favorites]


Give it a few years and many young people will legitimately be confused by any reference to a "TV."
posted by The Card Cheat at 1:03 PM on September 26, 2013 [1 favorite]


I am an actor, so I can play everything. Everyone is in me, and I am a part of everyone.

Every actor has a range. It's unsettling that he doesn't know that there are parts Marlon Brando could have played that he can't, let alone pretending that he can fill the shoes of "Meryl Streep and Natalie Wood and Cate Blanchett and Marilyn Monroe."

It's strange because thinking about your range is an interesting exercise as an actor. I could never play Othello, not just because of skin color but because I can't even pretend to have a personality that monumental. Iago I might be able to do and daydreaming about how I could do that part with my limited skills is when the game starts to get interesting.
posted by justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow at 1:03 PM on September 26, 2013 [1 favorite]



You guys snark all you want, I'm gonna be thinking hard about how I can get better at being my own Scorsese.

You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? Then who the hell else are you talking... you talking to me? You think I'm funny? Let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I'm funny how? I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
posted by any major dude at 1:06 PM on September 26, 2013


Dear Hollywood, please film a remake of Apocalypse Now with Cate Blanchett as Colonel Kurtz. It will be awesome.
posted by prize bull octorok at 1:06 PM on September 26, 2013 [6 favorites]


Dude's no Ethan Hawke, that's for sure.

When The Hottest State came out I was kinda curious about the buzz. I gotta preface this by saying Ethan Hawke and Uma Thurman were kinda like fixtures in downtown Manhattan. It wasn't uncommon to see them in Washington Square Park.

I went to the B&N on Astor Place and found a copy. Opened it up and found someone had written in it. Picked the next one up, same thing. Then I realized it was signed. Ethan Hawke or someone with a very odd passtime had signed them all. They weren't even marked as signed copies as B&N sometimes does. I bet Ethan snuck in to check out his book and couldn't resist. I've kinda liked him ever since.
posted by Ad hominem at 1:10 PM on September 26, 2013 [1 favorite]


I am an actor, so I can play everything. Everyone is in me, and I am a part of everyone.

Langdon Cobb, is that you?
posted by Steely-eyed Missile Man at 1:11 PM on September 26, 2013


James Franco is a character in the novel. Meta!

...

Told in a dizzying array of styles—from lyric essays and disarming testimonials to hilariously rambling text messages and ghostly footnotes—and loosely modeled on Alcoholics Anonymous’s Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions, Actors Anonymous is an intense, wild ride into the dark heart of celebrity.


So is he the Vonnegut of our age, or what?
posted by Apocryphon at 1:13 PM on September 26, 2013


I’m here to entertain you, but I don’t really care about entertaining you, know what I mean?

I do know what you mean, James. Call me and we can talk about it.
posted by betweenthebars at 1:23 PM on September 26, 2013 [3 favorites]


any major dude: Actually, that would make him his own De Niro. Whom he is equally not equal to.
posted by IAmBroom at 1:27 PM on September 26, 2013


Dear Hollywood, please film a remake of Apocalypse Now with Cate Blanchett as Colonel Kurtz. It will be awesome.

How about Tilda Swinton as David Bowie as Colonel Kurtz?

Actually I'd love Cate Blanchett as Colonel Kurtz in a LOTR where she kept the one ring and went all great and terrible queen, too, but that part always did get me all a'flutter.
posted by Ghostride The Whip at 1:30 PM on September 26, 2013 [3 favorites]


I tried being my own Scorsese, and ended up being my own Kevin Smith.

Don't complain. I ended up being my own Tommy Wiseau.
posted by lumpenprole at 1:30 PM on September 26, 2013 [15 favorites]


...you can't call him out for being dumb, pretentious, or vapid, because he's really self-conscious of that...

I'm not sure being self-aware is a valid excuse any more for this sort of narcissism. It's like crashing into a ditch and shouting, "Hey, I'm stuck in a rut!" But that doesn't get you out.

I bought his collection of short stories because I was young and a fool and got exactly what I deserved, which meant exposure to some of the most involved navel-gazing I've ever had to endure. But I still hold out hope whenever I hear mention of his name because there's something there, I just can't make out if it's anything more than mere potential. And I think once he stops trying to say something important he might actually offer some small brilliance.

The thing is I'm eager for literature to look further into the "heart of celebrity" because it's such a pervasive yet mysterious force in our culture, but this sort of self-conscious approach is a terrible way of going at it. Maybe this is just my ignorance showing, but I wonder if this is the truest way to expose it, and if there might not be a more straightforward and possibly more accessible means?
posted by onwords at 1:31 PM on September 26, 2013


The Card Cheat: "> I thought about the kiss a lot, and I could feel her soul on my lips.

It could be worse. My wife's best friend has an ex-boyfriend who referred to having sex as "touching souls."
"

You know, I would be up for some soul touching, if I wasn't trapped in singleosity.
posted by Samizdata at 1:36 PM on September 26, 2013


Wolfdog: "I bet you're too cool to watch TV, too.
I just now briefly considered looking up what a TV is.
"

Weak. You have a dictionary. Hipster.
posted by Samizdata at 1:37 PM on September 26, 2013


lumpenprole: "I tried being my own Scorsese, and ended up being my own Kevin Smith.

Don't complain. I ended up being my own Tommy Wiseau.
"

I ended up being my own Ed Wood.
posted by Samizdata at 1:41 PM on September 26, 2013 [1 favorite]


Dear prize bull octorok,

Thanks for the idea but we really didn't want to make Apocalypse Now the first time.

Sincerely,

Hollywood
posted by any major dude at 1:44 PM on September 26, 2013 [3 favorites]


> I’m here to entertain you, but I don’t really care about entertaining you, know what I mean?

This line was probably cut out, at the producers' insistence, of his opening monologue when he co-hosted the Oscars.
posted by The Card Cheat at 1:45 PM on September 26, 2013 [1 favorite]


Dear Laura Bennett,

I was entertained by your article 'The 10 Most James Franco Lines in James Franco’s New Novel' that you wrote on the internet!

However I contemplated how it would feel, if I wrote a book one day and someone dug through it, took out 10 sentences out of context, for the benefit of entertaining other people at how funny/stupid/Riton-ish my writing was.

Therefore, I have configured a google alert, that will warn me the exact instant that you, Laura Benett, ever publish a book.

Laura Bennett, I will buy your book. I will comb through it, over and over again, and I will write an article about it with the 10 worst/funniest/Laura Bennettish things in your book.

And the internet will be entertained.

Love,

Riton
posted by Riton at 1:50 PM on September 26, 2013 [3 favorites]




I tried being my own Scorsese, and ended up being my own Kevin Smith.

Don't complain. I ended up being my own Tommy Wiseau.

I ended up being my own Ed Wood.


I ended up being my own Uwe Boll.




Game. Set. Match.
posted by grubi at 2:13 PM on September 26, 2013 [5 favorites]


I bet you're too cool to watch TV, too.
I just now briefly considered looking up what a TV is.


I don't use the word "TV" because "TV" is a nickname and nicknames are for friends, and television is no friend of mine!
posted by grubi at 2:15 PM on September 26, 2013 [6 favorites]



I tried being my own Scorsese, and ended up being my own Kevin Smith.

Don't complain. I ended up being my own Tommy Wiseau.

I ended up being my own Ed Wood.

I ended up being my own Uwe Boll.


Game. Set. Match.


I ended up being my own Tinto Brass

Bring it.
posted by It's Never Lurgi at 2:29 PM on September 26, 2013 [1 favorite]


I ended up being my own George Lucas. I'm the richest librarian in the world, but at my library you can only sign out Dan Brown e-books.
posted by The Card Cheat at 2:42 PM on September 26, 2013 [2 favorites]


Dear prize bull octorok,

Thanks for the idea but we really didn't want to make Apocalypse Now the first time.

Sincerely,

Hollywood


P.S. And by the time we finished, it wasn't even now anymore.
posted by The Underpants Monster at 4:11 PM on September 26, 2013 [1 favorite]


I like James Franco.

I'm not a huge fan and I'm not going to run out and buy his poetry or his novel, but I admire he's taken a weird path when he could've taken an easy one. Is he full of himself? Probably. But he's also charismatic and charming and I think he's in on the joke. That goes a long way for me.

He's doing what he wants to do. Does being a celebrity give him some advantages? Sure. But I don't think people seek out and decide to go into the Warren Wilson College MFA program because they're just in it for the laughs (nor do I think WWC accepted him just because he was a notable actor).

Is James Franco kind of silly and weird? Sure. But I don't know why he gets the hate that he does. He's trying to do something. Sometimes he may fail. Sometimes he may succeed. But he's doing something interesting and more power to him.
posted by darksong at 5:17 PM on September 26, 2013 [12 favorites]


Came in to make a witty observation about James Franco being like Ethan Hawke if li'l' Ethan bathed more and had a sense of humor, saw that it was done several times over.
I ended up being my own Tinto Brass
At some point someone's going to claim ze's hir own Brian Yuzna. (Is that even anatomically possible? Wait, don't answer that.)
posted by pxe2000 at 5:41 PM on September 26, 2013


Am I the only one in this thread who has read "Palo Alto"? Because that was one incredible short story collection. I'm going to say right here that if dude does not become an Important American Author, it's only because he is focusing on other things. He definitely has it in him.
posted by 256 at 5:46 PM on September 26, 2013 [1 favorite]


"I ended up being my own Tinto Brass

Bring it.
"

I ended up being my own Roger Corman, but it's pretty sweet.
posted by klangklangston at 7:15 PM on September 26, 2013 [2 favorites]


I ended up being my own Roger Corman, but it's pretty sweet.

I'm this close to being my own William Castle. We should have lunch sometime.
posted by The Underpants Monster at 8:06 PM on September 26, 2013 [1 favorite]


I ended up being my own Nancy Walker screw you I win.
posted by Senor Cardgage at 8:35 PM on September 26, 2013 [1 favorite]


But I don't know why he gets the hate that he does.

envy?
posted by philip-random at 10:44 PM on September 26, 2013


that's nothing. i'm my own grandpa.
posted by RTQP at 12:11 AM on September 27, 2013


But I don't know why he gets the hate that he does.

I love people taking the weird path, but when you're a celebrity and your taking the weird path means people have to hear all about it, it makes sense that those people sometimes go "Jesus Christ Franco enough already." I like Franco in a lot of things, and Spring Breakers was the best movie of the year; this sounds kind of bad and some of the excerpts quoted come off as a bit preening, so people are making fun of him for it. No biggie.
posted by Rory Marinich at 7:16 AM on September 27, 2013


This sounds awesome. I want to read it.
posted by naju at 7:54 AM on September 27, 2013


But not like, read it read it, you know?
posted by naju at 7:56 AM on September 27, 2013 [1 favorite]


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