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October 24, 2013 1:50 PM   Subscribe

It has been ten years since Tommy Wiseau's "The Room" (previously) hit theaters. And though the notoriety and fanbase of the film has grown in that time, information on the man behind it has not. Greg Sestero, who was perhaps the closest to Wiseau and the project, has just published "The Disaster Artist" on his work with the film. The Dissolve has a lengthy review/analysis for your enjoyment.
posted by AlonzoMosleyFBI (69 comments total) 18 users marked this as a favorite
 
> If you were to show a space alien with no experience with human life snippets...

I've been saying that for years!

Twice in my life, people have shown up at my place with movies in hand that they insist I have to see to believe; Trapped In The Closet and The Room.
posted by The Card Cheat at 1:57 PM on October 24, 2013 [7 favorites]


Twice in my life, people have shown up at my place with movies in hand that they insist I have to see to believe; Trapped In The Closet and The Room.
posted by The Card Cheat


Three time in my life, I've shown up at a friend's place with a movie in hand that they have to see to believe: Trapped In the Closet, The Room, and Zardoz.
posted by COBRA! at 2:01 PM on October 24, 2013 [9 favorites]


Zardoz I stumbled across by accident. My friends and I had NO FUCKING IDEA what we were in for.
posted by The Card Cheat at 2:03 PM on October 24, 2013 [3 favorites]


I'd put my vote in for "R.O.T.O.R.", which actually has "The Room" beat for unnatural-sounding dialogue.
posted by AlonzoMosleyFBI at 2:05 PM on October 24, 2013 [4 favorites]


So The Disaster Artist is the 21st-century version of the book that would have been written if Salome in Sunset Boulevard hadn't ended up with William Holden in the pool.

Which most of me thinks is awesome but, then, like all things related to The Room makes me feel ooky because, you know, real people.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 2:11 PM on October 24, 2013 [2 favorites]


You had to mention Sunset Blvd., didn't you. Now I'm mentally drawing parallels between Norma Desmond and Tommy Wiseau.

shudder
posted by AlonzoMosleyFBI at 2:14 PM on October 24, 2013


If you want some real good bad movie cringe, Netflix up A Talking Cat!?! (yes the punctuation is part of the title), where Eric Roberts plays a magical talking cat (possibly delivering his lines over the phone).
posted by jason_steakums at 2:15 PM on October 24, 2013 [8 favorites]


> I'd put my vote in for "R.O.T.O.R."

Ah, movie posters back in the day when film companies had to entice you into picking a video off the shelf...
posted by The Card Cheat at 2:18 PM on October 24, 2013


I am somewhat ashamed to have devoted brainpower to this, but here we go: The Room always struck me as the creation of someone who thinks that life should operate via simple rules. When bad things happen to him, he attributes them to bad faith on the part of others, rather than simply resign himself to the fact that this is a complicated world and time and chance happeneth to us all. It seemed like, as the typical Nice Guy, he took some boilerplate rejection in his past and made it out to be an Ultimate Betrayal.

The only character in The Room that has more than one dimension is Mark, and I always figured it was because Wiseau needed at least one character to exhibit remorse for the betrayal so that the audience would get The Moral of The Story. Now it seems like he had Mark exhibit remorse so that he could hear Sestero say the words that Wiseau had wanted him to say in real life.
posted by savetheclocktower at 2:18 PM on October 24, 2013 [6 favorites]


Ah, movie posters back in the day when film companies had to entice you into picking a video off the shelf...

There was a great section in Rewind This! about the importance of box art back in the heady days of VHS science fiction/horror.
posted by mykescipark at 2:21 PM on October 24, 2013


One of the astonishing revelations of The Disaster Artist is that the film easily could have been far more insane and nonsensical if not for the borderline-heroic efforts of crew members like script supervisor Sandy Schklair, a veteran who somehow managed to convince Wiseau to change some of the script’s most egregiously undeliverable lines, and suggest that maybe he shouldn’t indulge narrative whims like having Johnny secretly be a vampire.

Damn you, Schklair!
posted by jason_steakums at 2:28 PM on October 24, 2013 [13 favorites]


I'm oddly moved. I don't care for movie memoirs in general, but I'd be interested in this, out of pity for Wiseau's pain and motivation in making The Room. It's like the time Nice Pete decided he wanted to be a kid in High School.

I have listened to the Rifftrax of The Room so many times that I decided this thread needed it. ("He's just getting back from getting his hair restrung and his suit enlumpened.")
posted by Countess Elena at 2:29 PM on October 24, 2013 [7 favorites]


How Did This Get Made (several previouslies) had a lovely interview with Greg Sestero, as well.
posted by Peccable at 2:30 PM on October 24, 2013 [2 favorites]


I found Sestero's Reddit AMA very entertaining. My favorite comment was from a redditor who asked:

"What exactly happened to his ass anyway? It looks like it was the site of a Civil War battle."
posted by potsmokinghippieoverlord at 2:36 PM on October 24, 2013 [3 favorites]


Best excerpt I've seen so far: "Yes," the woman said finally, "My dog is a real thing."
posted by mcmile at 2:45 PM on October 24, 2013 [12 favorites]


Hmmm, real or not, that dog must be long dead.
posted by The Card Cheat at 3:11 PM on October 24, 2013


It is a totally riveting book, even speaking as a person who found The Room excruciating in a non-fun way. I only read it because it was a collaboration with Tom Bissell (previously, previously), but I'm glad I did.

I've been bummed to see so little mention of Bissell in the press I've seen for Disaster Artist. I know that the role of the collaborator/co-writer/ghostwriter is to stay firmly in the background of a project like this, but much of the book's success is down to his stylish prose, distinctive humor, and critical voice, all of which are very recognizable throughout -- he lights and shoots Sestero's story beautifully. (It is a fascinating story in its own right, though, and given Sestero's collaborative history, it is impossible for me to begrudge him a collaboration that ended well.)

Each chapter has an epigraph from Sunset Boulevard or The Talented Mr. Ripley, and each epigraph is more weirdly apt than the last.
posted by thesmallmachine at 3:23 PM on October 24, 2013 [3 favorites]


That's awesome. Totally didn't know about the Sunset Boulevard thing when I made that comparison earlier. I came upon this thread and The Dissolve piece happy that someone had written a long article about the book because I was interested but wasn't sure I wanted to read it. Turns out now I want to read it even more.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 3:33 PM on October 24, 2013


In vaguely related news, Fateful Findings is slated for an early 2014 theatrical release.
posted by ckape at 3:44 PM on October 24, 2013 [1 favorite]


Nobody in my circle of friends, especially my wife, understand this movie the way I do.
posted by spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints at 4:15 PM on October 24, 2013


The best version of The Room was the Adult Swim version where they gratuitously, ludicrously censor-barred things. The suicide scene and sex scenes were almost entirely black screens with a tiny box of movie showing through.
posted by jason_steakums at 4:20 PM on October 24, 2013 [3 favorites]


COBRA!: "Three time in my life, I've shown up at a friend's place with a movie in hand that they have to see to believe: Trapped In the Closet, The Room, and Zardoz."

See also: The Empiricist.
posted by brundlefly at 4:24 PM on October 24, 2013 [2 favorites]


It's a phenomenal book. One of the most bizarre stories I've ever read. Tommy is so much stranger than any of the individual anecdotes you'll hear come out of this book; the hints at his origin and the accounts of how he treated people on-set were a mix of horrifying, hilarious, and tragic.
posted by Rory Marinich at 4:30 PM on October 24, 2013


The flower shop sequence in The Room is one of the most upsetting, disorienting bits of horror ever put to film and it was all completely unintentional.
posted by The Whelk at 5:07 PM on October 24, 2013 [2 favorites]


Patton Oswalt parodies The Room
posted by jonp72 at 5:21 PM on October 24, 2013


The flower shop sequence in The Room is one of the most upsetting, disorienting bits of horror ever put to film and it was all completely unintentional.

I really want to watch a version of The Room with an Angelo Badalamenti score now.
posted by jason_steakums at 5:28 PM on October 24, 2013 [4 favorites]


Okay I now want to adapt The Disaster Artist as a black and white psychosexual horror film about a deranged director and his incoherent fantasies. Someone get on that.
posted by The Whelk at 5:44 PM on October 24, 2013 [1 favorite]


You had to mention Sunset Blvd., didn't you. Now I'm mentally drawing parallels between Norma Desmond and Tommy Wiseau.

shudder


WE DIDN'T NEED VOWRDS VE HAAD VACES.
posted by The Whelk at 5:45 PM on October 24, 2013 [5 favorites]


I feel like there should be some kind of canonical list of ultra-bad movies, as a way to both warn most people away from, yet point out to interested parties, movies like The Room.

The Room, A Talking Cat?!!, Foodfight, After Last Season (although it's less entertaining bad than just extremely dull), and of course a handfull of MST stalwarts like Manos.
posted by JHarris at 5:51 PM on October 24, 2013 [1 favorite]


I just finished this book last weekend. It really is amazing, and Wiseau comes off as both creepy and tragically sympathetic. The continued exasperations of the Hollywood pros at his bizarre "production/direction" style is grimly humorous.
posted by dhens at 5:53 PM on October 24, 2013


I feel like there should be some kind of canonical list of ultra-bad movies, as a way to both warn most people away from, yet point out to interested parties, movies like The Room.

The Room, A Talking Cat?!!, Foodfight, After Last Season (although it's less entertaining bad than just extremely dull), and of course a handfull of MST stalwarts like Manos.


The entire Trancers series.
posted by jason_steakums at 5:56 PM on October 24, 2013


Oh, and Birdemic. How the hell was I able to forget about Birdemic?

Hm. I actually have a folder on a hard drive with more likely candidates.
posted by JHarris at 6:04 PM on October 24, 2013 [1 favorite]


Guys guys guys there is a new talking animal movie starring Eric Roberts, THE MAGIC PUPPY*.

Yes it's shot at the same soft ore porn house and cabin as A Talking Cat!?!

*it would appear that the DOG, not puppy, was created via magic, and has no magical ability himself,
posted by The Whelk at 6:23 PM on October 24, 2013 [1 favorite]


I always imagine the Roberts family holiday get-togethers are a thing to behold.
posted by jason_steakums at 6:37 PM on October 24, 2013 [2 favorites]


I used to go to the midnight screenings of "The Room" at the Sunset 5 in Hollywood. I think there's a real thin line between making fun of bad movies and having fun with bad movies and that line got eventually got destroyed. They would run the movie on all 5 screens and still have to turn people away, and people weren't interested in Sestero or Tommy's history or anything like that. But part of what makes this movie so bad is that the process is clearly evident onscreen, so to ignore that there had to be something extraordinary happening during production is to ignore part of the fun of the "badness."

This isn't even a good film, but the story behind it is kinda great. I'm really interested in this book, because the real love for this movie exists outside the frame.
posted by dogwalker at 6:51 PM on October 24, 2013


Hearing about midnight screenings of The Room is like hearing of an alternate universe where everything is much more fun, an alternate universe to which I will never go.
posted by JHarris at 6:53 PM on October 24, 2013


Lindsey Ellis was all primed to go to a midnight showing of The Room a while back but apparently everyone just wanted to yell out comments about how ugly and flat the lead actress was and it wasn't fun or funny anymore.

I think The Room falls into the category where you can't really add anything that isn't more insane or entertaining then the actual movie. It's too incoherent to be riffed because nothing you add can match what you've just been subjected too.
posted by The Whelk at 6:55 PM on October 24, 2013 [1 favorite]


The Rifftrax guys do a heroic effort but after a while they're just ...describing what's going on.
posted by The Whelk at 6:59 PM on October 24, 2013 [1 favorite]


Yeah, that sounds like it'd suck. I guess people are dicks even in Hypothetical Alternate Midnight The Room Viewing Universe.

Embarassing fact: I have not yet seen the Rifftrax for The Room. Between one thing and another, it's one I never added to my collection. I thought I had for awhile, but no.
posted by JHarris at 7:01 PM on October 24, 2013


Yeah, you guys get the picture. A lot of the real fun at the screenings wasn't so much commenting at the movie as it was just being with a crowd. Like, everyone yells "Alacatraz" whenever there's a shot of Alacatraz. Not a genius joke itself, but after the 4th or 5th time, it's a pretty fun group game. Or throwing spoons when the framed spoon is visible. Not super clever, but FUN.

My favorite was when we started bringing confetti cannons to shoot off at the surprise party. Have you ever shot off multiple confetti cannons in a movie theater? it's pretty dang sweet. But once people made it all about getting their witty line in, and having it heard over the ruckus, a lot of the group fun disappeared.
posted by dogwalker at 7:05 PM on October 24, 2013


Yeah, everyone thinks they can riff. I've put a lot of effort into ad lib riffing well, and I have to admit I'm pretty scattershot. It's important to remember, the MST3K, Cinematic Titanic and Rifftrax guys all had a whole writer's room (although a virtual one in CT's case, I think), and was always heavily scripted.
posted by JHarris at 7:10 PM on October 24, 2013 [1 favorite]


Plus, they run through it like five times. I like to think I'm reasonably okay on the fly, but that's mostly knowing when to keep your mouth shut.
posted by The Whelk at 7:13 PM on October 24, 2013 [1 favorite]


To be fair, some of the guys at the midnight screenings had been going every month for over a year and had seen the movie over ten times and were super hilarious with their timing and all that, so not everyone was part of the problem. But when the popularity exploded, it was as bad as you imagine it would be to have a hundred people trying to spontaneously create the perfect Rifftrax.
posted by dogwalker at 7:23 PM on October 24, 2013 [2 favorites]


Yeah, everyone thinks they can riff.

I've sort of figured out this half-baked rule: for any group watching a movie, the one dude who thinks they're Joel Hodgson gets exponentially more awful to be around the smaller the group gets, peaking at a group of 3. If it's just the two of you, fine - you're annoyed, you can write it off as time wasted, but there's no shared embarrassment which is the real uncomfortable thing. More than three people and the embarrassment gets shared among more people so it gets better. Two people who want to watch a movie while a third wants to riff on it? The worst thing. This only applies to a single wannabe riffer, though, because more than one just makes it awful for any number of people until they're vastly outnumbered.
posted by jason_steakums at 7:32 PM on October 24, 2013 [2 favorites]


Just this weekend, my husband and I were at a local reservoir to birdwatch. And instead of seeing hawks and ospreys and maybe! even! tarantulas! we saw... not much.

But we did see one type of bird. We spotted it and exclaimed simultaneously "Oh, hai pelican!"

This movie has poisoned us, I'm telling ya.
posted by potsmokinghippieoverlord at 7:36 PM on October 24, 2013 [9 favorites]


YOU'RE TEARING ME APAAAHRT, LEEEESA!

I've just started reading The Disaster Artist, and yeah, wow.

I need to see The Room again.
posted by Harvey Jerkwater at 8:26 PM on October 24, 2013 [2 favorites]


I have only ever seen The Room with its attendant RiffTrax, which is fantastic in many ways (Bill Corbett's "Oh hai, gun bawwow" as Johnny puts the gun in his mouth absolutely kills me), but also, unfortunately, sometimes relies on unkind comments about Juliette Danielle's appearance.
posted by dhens at 8:26 PM on October 24, 2013 [2 favorites]


If you were to show a space alien with no experience with human life snippets...

In 1984, SETI received a transmission which demonstrated, tragically, that this confusion can also result in a very good movie.

"People of earth! We have received your radio and television transmissions. We see that you are like us, seeking love, companionship and nobility of spirit. We see you express this in the care you offer to the sick, the bonds of mutual respect that unite those who work together, the bold confidence with which you face danger, and the curiosity which drives you to explore the unknown. Like you, we spend every moment of every day striving for the fine and the good. We have seen you rejoice together in song and we call out that we may rejoice with you."

This message was followed by a 103 minute video clip, apparently intended as a documentary about their understanding of human life. That film was The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension. We have not replied because we are ashamed.
posted by justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow at 8:49 PM on October 24, 2013 [5 favorites]


I am completely on board with the implication that the production of Buckaroo Banzai Against the World Crime League will herald a new age of enlightenment.
posted by jason_steakums at 9:04 PM on October 24, 2013 [2 favorites]


of course a handfull of MST stalwarts like Manos

I always found Red Zone Cuba more painful than Manos.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 10:29 PM on October 24, 2013


For whatever reason I've never finished Track Of The Moon Beast cause its just so boring and badly made, and not in a fun way, in a frustrating and super dull way.
posted by The Whelk at 10:32 PM on October 24, 2013


This message was followed by a 103 minute video clip, apparently intended as a documentary about their understanding of human life. That film was The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension. We have not replied because we are ashamed.

I assume you mean that we're ashamed that we were presented with this vision of the fully realized human experience, the life of the philosopher king, that we refuse to attain.

I am completely on board with the implication that the production of Buckaroo Banzai Against the World Crime League will herald a new age of enlightenment.

Apparently a lot of what had been thought up for BBATWCL ended up in Big Trouble in Little China.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 10:32 PM on October 24, 2013 [2 favorites]


Red Zone Cuba - that would be the one where a character dies and the same actor comes back as an extra in he next scene. Yes, worse than Manos. However, for me nothing is as bad as The Castle of Fu Manchu. Racist, incomprehensibly plotted, poorly lit and sometimes out of focus. Not even the riffs could save it.

I assume you mean that we're ashamed that we were presented with this vision of the fully realized human experience, the life of the philosopher king, that we refuse to attain.

Indeed. I confess, I've only seen the first five minutes of Buckaroo Banzai. I've been holding off until I can organize a party so I can watch it with friends. In that five minutes (I timed it) Buckaroo performed brain surgery, recruited Jeff Goldblum into his secret society of costumed cowboy adventurers, strapped himself into a rocket car, and secretly installed what appears to be a flux capacitor in his rocket car. On the basis of that five minutes I have concluded that something this awesome cannot be the work of human hands.

Buckaroo Banzai should be playing on the History Channel right now.
posted by justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow at 10:43 PM on October 24, 2013 [2 favorites]


I always found Red Zone Cuba more painful than Manos.

I think Manos is worse, but a friend used to swear up and down that RZC was worse. I tend to group them in with the Graduate Level episodes these days myself, and not usually vouch which is worse.

Castle of Fu Manchu is a case of a competently-made movie that's just dull. It's "better" than Manos and RZC because (excepting RZC's brief usage of John Carradine) real actors were in it, and it had a budget, and was made by filmmakers. But all these resources were wasted on a deadly dull and pointless movie. The riffing couldn't save it not because it was too bad, but because it was bad in the wrong ways.

There are two different tracks here that are often conflated. A bad movie that's laughably bad, like Manos, The Room or Red Zone Cuba. Or a mediocre movie that's a slog to get through (like Castle of Fu Manchu), or oppressively pandering (which we see a lot of these days, like Bay's Transformers series, or the inexorable Movie 43). I would watch The Room with friends in a minute, but I couldn't make it through Transformers 2 even with the RiffTrax.

I think in cases where people have MST Failure, when people are introduced to the show and have an abreaction, it's sometimes because they were thrown in too deep to start with, because the difference between the two is sometimes nuanced. You kind of have to be a bit of a film buff to appreciate the badness of Manos or Red Zone Cuba; you kind of have to not be one to appreciate Transformers 2.
posted by JHarris at 1:24 AM on October 25, 2013 [2 favorites]


JHarris: I agree that the poorly-made/truly oddball movies often make for better experiences than standard Hollywood dreck like the Transformers franchise. This is one reason why I have been pretty happy with RiffTrax's recent focus on VODs rather than blockbuster films. (Also, the VODs are a lot easier to handle, with no need to sync, etc.)

Red Zone Cuba, like the other Coleman Francis films featured in Season 6 of MST3K (The Skydivers and The Beast of Yucca Flats) is indeed not for beginners. However, the theme to Red Zone Cuba, as performed by John Carradine (who brought gravitas to the film by his 45-second cameo as a railroad employee), is legitimately awesome.

In other riffing news, RiffTrax will do a live riffing of Santa Claus Conquers the Martians on December 5. This holiday classic is now set to become the most riffed film to date, having been riffed by MST3K back in 1991, and having been re-riffed by Cinematic Titanic (Joel's project) a few years ago.
posted by dhens at 6:35 AM on October 25, 2013 [1 favorite]


Castle of Fu Manchu is a case of a competently-made movie that's just dull.

Maybe I'm misremembering my MST3K, but isn't there a long scene set in a catacomb or a sewer or something so poorly lit that it's impossible to tell what's going on for an extended period? At least one for the incompetence column there.
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 6:52 AM on October 25, 2013 [1 favorite]


I hope the incredible secret ending of The Disaster Artist is that Tommy is the alien, and The Room his one chance to deliver his message to humanity. (A message of hope for those who choose to hear it, and a warning to those who DID NAAAAHHHHT.)
posted by Z. Aurelius Fraught at 7:40 AM on October 25, 2013 [3 favorites]


(A message of hope for those who choose to hear it, and a warning to those who DID NAAAAHHHHT.)

Don't forget to throw your water bottle!
posted by potsmokinghippieoverlord at 8:22 AM on October 25, 2013 [2 favorites]


I think Manos is worse cause RZC, despite the retrograde politics, doesn't creep me the fuck out like Manos does. "Every frame of this movie looks like someone's last known photo." indeed.
posted by The Whelk at 8:37 AM on October 25, 2013 [2 favorites]


JHarris: "There are two different tracks here that are often conflated. A bad movie that's laughably bad, like Manos, The Room or Red Zone Cuba. Or a mediocre movie that's a slog to get through (like Castle of Fu Manchu), or oppressively pandering (which we see a lot of these days, like Bay's Transformers series, or the inexorable Movie 43). I would watch The Room with friends in a minute, but I couldn't make it through Transformers 2 even with the RiffTrax."

Agreed. TRANSFORMERS 2 was the single worst film going experience I've ever had. It's just deeply, deeply unpleasant.

I'd also add that films in the Manos school of "bad" are more likely to be genuinely interesting, and works of passion. Ed Woods movies may be laughably inept, but they are also fascinating and have a distinct voice. Plan 9 wouldn't be as big a cult favorite if it just sucked.
posted by brundlefly at 10:14 AM on October 25, 2013 [1 favorite]


Maybe I'm misremembering my MST3K, but isn't there a long scene set in a catacomb or a sewer or something so poorly lit that it's impossible to tell what's going on for an extended period?

That's what I remember as well. It's both tediously dull and incompetently made. Say what you will about Transformers II, at least it's in focus. I seem to recall Joel saying "unbelievable" a few times, which is what he says when a movie is beneath laughter, beneath anything but contempt.

I remember Red Zone Cuba as also being in the category of "so bad it's a slog to get through" and can't imagine watching it again. In contrast, I find the five minute long scene of silent driving at the start of Manos hilarious.
posted by justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow at 11:10 AM on October 25, 2013


justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow: "Say what you will about Transformers II, at least it's in focus."

Was it? I couldn't tell with the shakycam.
posted by brundlefly at 11:21 AM on October 25, 2013 [1 favorite]


I am completely on board with the implication that the production of Buckaroo Banzai Against the World Crime League will herald a new age of enlightenment.

Apparently a lot of what had been thought up for BBATWCL ended up in Big Trouble in Little China.


But we repeat ourselves.
posted by Strange Interlude at 11:59 AM on October 25, 2013 [1 favorite]


Our five-year-old son has everyone's favorite euphemism, special needs, including expressive language problems and echolalia, along with the excellent memory that often accompanies that kind of neurology. So naturally, my comedy writer/director husband decides to purposely teach him phrases from "The Room" to work into his repertoire... Cut to a montage of an adorable child who has trouble putting together a grammatically correct sentence more than four words long, but who can launch into "YOU ARE TEARING ME APART, LISA! AUGHHHH!" like a champ.
posted by Asparagirl at 6:03 PM on October 25, 2013 [9 favorites]


If you want some real good bad movie cringe, Netflix up A Talking Cat!?! (yes the punctuation is part of the title), where Eric Roberts plays a magical talking cat (possibly delivering his lines over the phone).

Sweet zombie Jesus, steakums. Based on your recommendation, I just watched this thing. Thanks for not spoiling the amazing twist ending...
posted by Strange Interlude at 6:13 PM on October 25, 2013


It's got so many layers of bad! I can't decide if my favorite is the animation for the cat's mouth, or the repeated establishing shots of the same stock footage of a babbling brook, or the insane obsession with cheese puffs, or... honestly, I can't even list all the terrible things I love about it.
posted by jason_steakums at 7:16 PM on October 25, 2013 [1 favorite]


Really, the thing that gets me about ATC!?! is the immediate and obvious porn-adjacency awkwardly juxtaposed into a children's movie, starting with how everything in the house looks like a set piece from a 1990s Skinemax film, especially the (lovingly photographed) spiral staircase, Mayan-temple swimming pool, and Volkswagen love seat.
posted by Strange Interlude at 8:50 AM on October 26, 2013


And the woman who played the cheese puff-crazed Susan starred in a porn version of Alice in Wonderland in the 70s.
posted by jason_steakums at 9:07 AM on October 26, 2013


Hey! The aforementioned comedy writer/director husband just texted me that there are going to be 10th Anniversary midnight showings of "The Room" in San Francisco this Friday and Saturday nights (November 1st and 2nd), with Tommy Wiseau and Greg Sestero in attendance!
posted by Asparagirl at 2:14 PM on October 28, 2013 [1 favorite]


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