La Voz del Pueblo/Voice of the People
February 12, 2014 9:54 AM Subscribe
More than 12,000 Catholics from five continents answered questions in a massive survey commissioned by Univision and conducted by Bendixen & Amandi International. Topics covered included all the issues most likely to generate lively discussion among Catholics all over the world. Here's how they responded.
More detailed multi-page pdf infographic here. Data here.
More detailed multi-page pdf infographic here. Data here.
Good on Univision, and I could see how this information would definitely help shape their content.
Also, am I reading the graphs right, it seems younger Catholics toe the party line more than older ones?!?
It seems that way, in all categories except for gay marriage, and even there, 35-54 population is one percentage point more "liberal" than the youth.
posted by filthy light thief at 10:26 AM on February 12, 2014
Also, am I reading the graphs right, it seems younger Catholics toe the party line more than older ones?!?
It seems that way, in all categories except for gay marriage, and even there, 35-54 population is one percentage point more "liberal" than the youth.
posted by filthy light thief at 10:26 AM on February 12, 2014
Wow, so many of those results go directly against stereotype. Neat.
posted by The Underpants Monster at 10:27 AM on February 12, 2014
posted by The Underpants Monster at 10:27 AM on February 12, 2014
Also, am I reading the graphs right, it seems younger Catholics toe the party line more than older ones?!?
This is a little counter-intuitive, but is probably explainable by a combination of time since Vatican II (the generation that came of age right at/after Vatican II seems particularly apt to disagree with the Church) and younger people leaving and declining to identify themselves as Catholic.
I'm pleased to see much forward movement on many issues
I feel compelled to point out that this isn't about 'movement' at all--it's about what Catholics think, relative to what the Church says, two things that are well known not to coincide.
posted by hoyland at 10:28 AM on February 12, 2014 [3 favorites]
This is a little counter-intuitive, but is probably explainable by a combination of time since Vatican II (the generation that came of age right at/after Vatican II seems particularly apt to disagree with the Church) and younger people leaving and declining to identify themselves as Catholic.
I'm pleased to see much forward movement on many issues
I feel compelled to point out that this isn't about 'movement' at all--it's about what Catholics think, relative to what the Church says, two things that are well known not to coincide.
posted by hoyland at 10:28 AM on February 12, 2014 [3 favorites]
Wow, Catholics in Africa and the Philippines are going to keep social attitudes mired in the 19th & 20th centuries for a long time, apparently.
posted by LooseFilter at 10:28 AM on February 12, 2014
posted by LooseFilter at 10:28 AM on February 12, 2014
The Catholic Church really needs to change their position on contraceptives, considering very few Catholics agree with the position.
It is not a democracy. Friends have pointed out that while Pope Francis seems to project a welcoming, media-friendly image, there has been no actual change in any Church doctrine.
posted by vacapinta at 10:32 AM on February 12, 2014 [1 favorite]
It is not a democracy. Friends have pointed out that while Pope Francis seems to project a welcoming, media-friendly image, there has been no actual change in any Church doctrine.
posted by vacapinta at 10:32 AM on February 12, 2014 [1 favorite]
Also, am I reading the graphs right, it seems younger Catholics toe the party line more than older ones?!?
Sometimes acts of "youthful rebellion" work totally in reverse...
posted by oneswellfoop at 10:34 AM on February 12, 2014 [1 favorite]
Sometimes acts of "youthful rebellion" work totally in reverse...
posted by oneswellfoop at 10:34 AM on February 12, 2014 [1 favorite]
I was a little disappointed by the "contraceptives" answer for Africa, considering how much damage HIV is doing there.... Are the African Bishops just really hard line on the issue or what?
posted by GenjiandProust at 10:42 AM on February 12, 2014
posted by GenjiandProust at 10:42 AM on February 12, 2014
Can anyone else find whether, and if so how, they normalized their responses to fit Catholic demographics for their totals? Because this looks like it might be awfully skewed by selection biases.
posted by Blasdelb at 10:50 AM on February 12, 2014
posted by Blasdelb at 10:50 AM on February 12, 2014
The Catholic Church really needs to change their position on contraceptives, considering very few Catholics agree with the position.
The problem with having a doctrine full of strict commands is that it leaves one inflexible, and thereby unable to easily change with the times or the wishes of the follower base without undermining the doctrine, and by proxy, God Himself.
I do believe in God* but I also think its laughable that He decided to impart the totality of his wishes, essence, and whatever else to a select group of guys for them to jot down a couple thousand years ago.
The path I choose to follow is full of guidance and suggestions. There are things that work out, and things that don't, consequences to be enjoyed or rued, and principles that I try to live by, but spiritual perfection is a journey and not a destination. A mariner can sail by the stars their entire life, but they will never sail off into space.
I know I've said it before, but for me, personally*, any concept of God which includes vengeance and punishment, to me*, is a spiritual fallacy. A vengeful God is one that is neither omnipotent nor omniscient. To be backed into a position where He has to mete out vengeance would indicate that there was first a situation where He had a decided lack of control, power, knowledge, and ability which necessitates the need to lay a Holy smackdown on someone.
*my personal belief, may not reflect actual product
posted by Debaser626 at 10:58 AM on February 12, 2014 [2 favorites]
The problem with having a doctrine full of strict commands is that it leaves one inflexible, and thereby unable to easily change with the times or the wishes of the follower base without undermining the doctrine, and by proxy, God Himself.
I do believe in God* but I also think its laughable that He decided to impart the totality of his wishes, essence, and whatever else to a select group of guys for them to jot down a couple thousand years ago.
The path I choose to follow is full of guidance and suggestions. There are things that work out, and things that don't, consequences to be enjoyed or rued, and principles that I try to live by, but spiritual perfection is a journey and not a destination. A mariner can sail by the stars their entire life, but they will never sail off into space.
I know I've said it before, but for me, personally*, any concept of God which includes vengeance and punishment, to me*, is a spiritual fallacy. A vengeful God is one that is neither omnipotent nor omniscient. To be backed into a position where He has to mete out vengeance would indicate that there was first a situation where He had a decided lack of control, power, knowledge, and ability which necessitates the need to lay a Holy smackdown on someone.
*my personal belief, may not reflect actual product
posted by Debaser626 at 10:58 AM on February 12, 2014 [2 favorites]
WHAT DON'T THEY WANT US TO KNOW ABOUT HOW AUSTRALIAN AND ANTARCTICAN CATHOLICS THINK?!?!?!?
posted by blue_beetle at 11:41 AM on February 12, 2014
posted by blue_beetle at 11:41 AM on February 12, 2014
younger people leaving and declining to identify themselves as Catholic.
Some of whom, though by no means all, will return as they grow older or have children.
posted by thecaddy at 11:52 AM on February 12, 2014
Some of whom, though by no means all, will return as they grow older or have children.
posted by thecaddy at 11:52 AM on February 12, 2014
WHAT DON'T THEY WANT US TO KNOW ABOUT HOW AUSTRALIAN AND ANTARCTICAN CATHOLICS THINK?!?!?!?
Something, something, penguins.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 2:22 PM on February 12, 2014
Something, something, penguins.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 2:22 PM on February 12, 2014
It's interesting to note that Africa remains by far the most conservative region. It also happens to be where the Church is growing fastest. That's definitely exerting a strong tug to the right on Catholic theology.
posted by NapAdvocacy at 4:09 PM on February 12, 2014
posted by NapAdvocacy at 4:09 PM on February 12, 2014
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Also, am I reading the graphs right, it seems younger Catholics toe the party line more than older ones?!?
posted by Harpocrates at 10:15 AM on February 12, 2014