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April 5, 2014 8:46 AM   Subscribe

Everybody loves the drum fill from "In The Air Tonight". Here, have a 30-minute loop of it. (SLYT) (Previously.)
posted by asterix (100 comments total) 21 users marked this as a favorite
 
Everybody?
posted by mazola at 8:53 AM on April 5, 2014 [6 favorites]


Everybody, I checked. A couple people said no but they were clearly being sarcastic, oh lord.
posted by cortex at 8:56 AM on April 5, 2014 [65 favorites]


I did indeed love that fill... until I heard that loop.
posted by fairmettle at 8:57 AM on April 5, 2014 [2 favorites]


Everybody loves the drum fill from "In The Air Tonight".

Well, not *quite* everybody. For one thing, the 80s gated-reverb drum sound is an epically horrendous sonic aberration that has rightly been discredited and banished forever*. For another thing, it's kinda stiff. Ringo would've put some breath into it. Phil Collins just infused it with clunk.

*hopefully
posted by flapjax at midnite at 8:58 AM on April 5, 2014 [6 favorites]


You haven't been listening to it for the full 30 minutes, fairmettle. You'll come back around.
posted by asterix at 8:58 AM on April 5, 2014 [17 favorites]


I could only take that for a few seconds. I hate the way Phil is looking at me ... judging me,
like my worth will be determined by how long I can listen.
posted by DaddyNewt at 8:59 AM on April 5, 2014 [4 favorites]


I like the part around 21:07
posted by monocultured at 8:59 AM on April 5, 2014 [35 favorites]


imagine you pressed play then fell and injured yourself and couldn't turn it off for the full 30 minutes and they found you white haired and babbling in a pool of urine
posted by fleetmouse at 8:59 AM on April 5, 2014 [29 favorites]


Ok, after six minutes I hear "Bobby! I like the room"
posted by monocultured at 9:04 AM on April 5, 2014 [3 favorites]


Let's make this is live collective hallucination!
posted by monocultured at 9:05 AM on April 5, 2014


I like the part around 30:01
posted by MtDewd at 9:06 AM on April 5, 2014 [14 favorites]


Worst Wedding DJ
posted by avocet at 9:07 AM on April 5, 2014 [7 favorites]


the 80s gated-reverb drum sound is an epically horrendous sonic aberration that has rightly been discredited and banished forever

Spoken like someone who hasn't listened to any Com Truise or Miami Nights 1984...
posted by asterix at 9:10 AM on April 5, 2014 [12 favorites]


13 minutes in: "Toffe! Electable"
posted by monocultured at 9:10 AM on April 5, 2014


Well I reMEMBA
posted by infinitewindow at 9:10 AM on April 5, 2014 [14 favorites]


Impossible to listen to without playing along on air drums. Admit it.
posted by klarck at 9:13 AM on April 5, 2014 [9 favorites]


Would work as the backing track for an alternate version of PIL's "Under the House". Actually, didn't I read somewhere that the drum sound on "Flowers of Romance" inspired Collins?
posted by davebush at 9:17 AM on April 5, 2014


NEEDS MORE APES PLAYING DRUMS.
posted by Mezentian at 9:18 AM on April 5, 2014 [4 favorites]


Do I get a milk chocolate bar if I listen to this?
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 9:19 AM on April 5, 2014


22 minutes: Constant choir in the background, someone repeating "I'd like to go/know"

This is getting seriously EVP…
posted by monocultured at 9:20 AM on April 5, 2014 [1 favorite]


Do I get a milk chocolate bar if I listen to this?

Does it have a glass and a half of full cream milk?
posted by Mezentian at 9:23 AM on April 5, 2014


[to two prostitutes] Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where, uh, Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion". In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your asshole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight" and, uh, "Against All Odds". Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio", a great, great song, a personal favorite.
posted by valkane at 9:25 AM on April 5, 2014 [18 favorites]


Does this fill ever get sampled? I'm imagining some ironic hip-hop, to take this fill from the drummer who has literally the least funk of any popular musician in the past 30 years. Maybe drop it in-between some killer breaks, with a gospel choir doing backing vocals.
posted by Nelson at 9:26 AM on April 5, 2014 [4 favorites]


Spoken like someone who hasn't listened to any Com Truise or Miami Nights 1984…

Guilty as charged.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 9:27 AM on April 5, 2014 [1 favorite]


Here's the problem with "In The Air Tonight". It's a one-gag song, which is fine, perhaps even preferable for a rock song. It builds towards the big drum lick, with the promise that the song's really going to kick in. But after the drum lick, the song doesn't get any more exciting. It's a big letdown.
posted by vibrotronica at 9:27 AM on April 5, 2014 [2 favorites]


Ok, 30 minutes done. I can see it being used as a house-track on it's own with some stuff added for variation… That was fun, 30 minute experiment in apophenia.
posted by monocultured at 9:29 AM on April 5, 2014 [1 favorite]


I'm actually pretty fond of the Ben Liebrand Extended Version of In The Air Tonight. It is a nice alternate imagining of the track.
posted by hippybear at 9:32 AM on April 5, 2014 [1 favorite]


I'm 20 minutes in, and it's oddly meditative. I sort of forget it was even there a couple times, and then it came rushing back, like feeling in a numb limb when you finally change position.

For a little while my brain was syncing up a Chili Peppers track, which was rough, but then it kicked over to the big part of the outro on Closer and that's actually kind of a nice juxtaposition.
posted by cortex at 9:35 AM on April 5, 2014


I've always felt that the praise for this song is overblown because compared to most of the rest of Phil Collins' solo output ("Groovy Kind Of Love," anyone? Didn't think so) it sounds like something Mozart wrote.
posted by The Card Cheat at 9:36 AM on April 5, 2014 [1 favorite]


it sounds like something Mozart wrote.

what no
posted by Wolfdog at 9:38 AM on April 5, 2014 [1 favorite]


honestly
posted by Wolfdog at 9:38 AM on April 5, 2014 [1 favorite]


On the recommendation of a youtube commenter, I opened the loop in ten different tabs. And stared at Phil, staring back at me, judging. Going crazy now.
posted by bepe at 9:40 AM on April 5, 2014 [9 favorites]


For the record, "A Groovy Kind Of Love" was written by Toni Wine and Carol Bayer Sager in the mid 60s and is based on a sonatina by Clementi.
posted by hippybear at 9:40 AM on April 5, 2014


Can someone please mix it with this?
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 9:43 AM on April 5, 2014


Also I love this song because it seems like every time I hear it, I'm driving through the city on a rainy night, and it makes me feel like I'm a detective in an 80s movie going through a soul searching time before my big redemption.
posted by bepe at 9:45 AM on April 5, 2014 [20 favorites]


That gated reverb drum was invented by Mr. Collins not 400 meters from where I type this comment, at Townhouse Studios on the Goldhawk Road in West London.

Also, home to the Jam, XTC, Pavement, etc etc etc.

Like every large studio facility outside Abby Road (being run at a loss by EMI as a "heritage branding resource), its been shut for some years. Even Olympic in Barnes, where the Stones, Led Zeppelin, and U2 created epic albums, closed.

And like every available post-industrial space in London, Townhouse is about to become high end flats rather than a place where stuff gets made.
posted by C.A.S. at 9:47 AM on April 5, 2014 [11 favorites]


I've listened to this the whole way through twice now in two days. It really is a fascinating piece of sonic work, minimalist but seeming to fluctuate and shift between the spaces those drums create.
posted by carsonb at 9:50 AM on April 5, 2014




For one thing, the 80s gated-reverb drum sound is an epically horrendous sonic aberration that has rightly been discredited and banished forever.


Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, man.

posted by FelliniBlank at 9:54 AM on April 5, 2014 [3 favorites]


I opened the loop in ten different tabs

Oh man now I want to listen to this in two different loops that are running at slightly different speeds to make some sort of Steve Reich phase shifting nightmare.
posted by Nelson at 9:57 AM on April 5, 2014 [7 favorites]


Aw, C.A.S., this is very upsetting. When I was a kid, I wanted to be a rock star, and imagined myself in studios like those, jamming, creating. To hear that these fantastic places are not being used is just depressing.

::sigh::

And I've never been a Phil Collins fan. His nasalality (I know, but I'm making up a word here) gets on my nerves. I couldn't listen to that loop for more than 15 seconds. There's something plodding about it that I don't like.

[Goes off to listen to Garden of Earthly Delights by XTC specifically for Pat Mastelotto]
posted by droplet at 10:01 AM on April 5, 2014 [2 favorites]


Oh man now I want to listen to this in two different loops that are running at slightly different speeds to make some sort of Steve Reich phase shifting nightmare.

Do it! I have a copy of Rutherford Chang's 100 Layered White Albums, and it's unbelievably swell.
posted by FelliniBlank at 10:02 AM on April 5, 2014 [2 favorites]


As the comments on YouTube suggested, I opened it in several browser tabs, which made it even more betters.
posted by kbanas at 10:05 AM on April 5, 2014


10 tabs is too many - 6 tabs is the sweet spot.
posted by Brent Parker at 10:12 AM on April 5, 2014


I've always thought that it could actually do with a little roll in it....
posted by Monkeymoo at 10:14 AM on April 5, 2014


Blazecock Pileon: Can someone please mix it with this?

Done.


Nelson: Oh man now I want to listen to this in two different loops that are running at slightly different speeds to make some sort of Steve Reich phase shifting nightmare.

YouTubeSlow link for the 30 minute loop, or you can use YouTube HTML5 beta, or really get more control by loading the the link in VLC (hat tip to sutt and Rhomboid respectively for those methods of changing the speed of YouTube clips).
posted by filthy light thief at 10:17 AM on April 5, 2014 [5 favorites]


Yepp, more tabs is more betters.
posted by zscore at 10:17 AM on April 5, 2014 [1 favorite]


If there was a 30 minute loop of the drum fill with video of Mike Tyson air drumming along...THEN you'd have something.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 10:20 AM on April 5, 2014


Worst Wedding DJ

I can top that. When the daughter of some close friends of ours got married, the wedding theme was "In the Air Tonight". And, yes, it was the kick-off song at the reception, as the wedding party was being introduced.

I. Kid. You. Not.

On the up-side, they had Bell's Two-Hearted on-tap, and we shared a table with the bride's aunt who thought the choice of theme song was just as darkly hilarious as we did.
posted by Thorzdad at 10:22 AM on April 5, 2014 [4 favorites]


The beat goes on... and nobody thought of Sonny and Cher? I'm so old. The beat goes on.
posted by vapidave at 10:25 AM on April 5, 2014


I'm pretty fond of covers of In the Air Tonight that descend into total wild-eyed intensity at the end, so you're sort of terrified of what, exactly, is coming in the air tonight. Like Holly McNarland's.
posted by yasaman at 10:25 AM on April 5, 2014 [2 favorites]


If you leave Phil Collin's jam in your penis beaker overnight, this is what it turns into.
posted by drlith at 10:26 AM on April 5, 2014 [1 favorite]


I can top that.

I attended a wedding nearly 30 years ago where the big newlywed slow dance song was Meat Loaf's "Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad". I was left slackjawed with amazement that the couple actually chose that song to start their marriage with. To this day, it is one of the pinnacles of WTF cluelessness I've ever experienced.
posted by hippybear at 10:28 AM on April 5, 2014 [5 favorites]


Please tell us they are still married.
posted by rtha at 10:33 AM on April 5, 2014 [2 favorites]


I attended a wedding nearly 30 years ago where the big newlywed slow dance song was Meat Loaf's "Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad".

Wow, hippybear. And I thought the male guests vs. female guests "Paradise By The Dashboard Light" wedding singalong I witnessed was troubling.

And my prom band finishing the evening with "Comfortably Numb."
posted by Songdog at 10:34 AM on April 5, 2014 [3 favorites]


Please tell us they are still married.

At their 50th anniversary bash, they can play "I'd Do Anything for Love, but I Won't Do That."
posted by FelliniBlank at 10:35 AM on April 5, 2014 [2 favorites]


This is perhaps not the optimal way to appreciate what "In The Air Tonight" has to offer.
posted by wabbittwax at 10:46 AM on April 5, 2014


This is what having a stroke must sound like.
posted by Relay at 10:50 AM on April 5, 2014


Obligatory GODHEADSILO cover.
posted by a box and a stick and a string and a bear at 10:56 AM on April 5, 2014


There is just no suspense whatsoever. Like, I need just one, just one fucking second in between the loops. But no.

(Maybe there is one, between two loops, somewhere around 22 minutes, that has that moment of emotional suspense I so desperately crave. Somebody tell me.)

.
posted by iamkimiam at 10:59 AM on April 5, 2014 [1 favorite]


Put a Donk on it.
posted by marienbad at 11:03 AM on April 5, 2014 [3 favorites]


That gated reverb drum was invented by Mr. Collins

the thing is, it wasn't. It was invented by Collins, Steve Lillywhite, Peter Gabriel and/or Hugh Padgham all of whom were in on the recording of the track.

And even then, the first time I personally heard it was back in 1977 on David Bowie's Low, which means credit likely goes to Tony Visconti who was producing, and Collins had nothing to do with any of it.

What Collins did was nail the thing on the right song in such a way that, as flapjax pointed out, the 80s were stuck with "... an epically horrendous sonic aberration that has rightly been discredited and banished forever."

But it did sound f***ing great at first.
posted by philip-random at 11:05 AM on April 5, 2014 [3 favorites]


Had he lived, I imagine John Bonham would've gone apeshit for that sound.
posted by wabbittwax at 11:07 AM on April 5, 2014 [1 favorite]


Wow, hippybear. And I thought the male guests vs. female guests "Paradise By The Dashboard Light" wedding singalong I witnessed was troubling.

Holy shit, either you were at my cousin's wedding or more than one couple has done this.

(I had a great time bonding with a pair of guys who were my cousin's friends during this - we realized we were the only ones who noticed anything was off about the song at a wedding.)
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 11:16 AM on April 5, 2014 [3 favorites]


What Phil claims in the Classic Albums documentary is that the drum sound was inspired by a very over-eager compressor in the studio's talkback mic. They then reproduced that sound with compressors/limiters/gates/etc.
posted by RobotVoodooPower at 11:23 AM on April 5, 2014


Everybody, I checked.

Um, you didn't check with me.
posted by Greg_Ace at 11:33 AM on April 5, 2014 [1 favorite]


Okay. So I opened it in one window. Then a few seconds later in another, etc. until I had it open in eight windows. Then, after a few seconds of that, I started closing them one by one.

It was interesting.
posted by ocherdraco at 11:35 AM on April 5, 2014 [1 favorite]


> I attended a wedding nearly 30 years ago where the big newlywed slow dance song was Meat Loaf's "Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad".

"Love Lift Us Up Where We Belong" is the worst first-dance song I've ever heard. The same DJ later cleared the dance floor like an Etch-A-Sketch being wiped clean by playing "Cotton Eye Joe."
posted by The Card Cheat at 11:36 AM on April 5, 2014 [2 favorites]


I'm actually pretty fond of the Ben Liebrand Extended Version of In The Air Tonight yt . It is a nice alternate imagining of the track.

OK, so why isn't that remix on iTunes? Geez.
posted by oflinkey at 11:40 AM on April 5, 2014


I might just put this as my ringtone, leave the phone on my desk and then go out for a long lunch, calling my phone every 2 mins. Let's see just how shockproof my phone case is.
posted by arcticseal at 11:44 AM on April 5, 2014 [2 favorites]


Wait what whoah I'm about 14 minutes in and it feels like the loop has changed. I'm pretty sure it's just my hearing of it.

For a while I was really focusing on some tiny little fragments of the notes from preceding or succeeding bars and hearing those instead of the drums. Now the drums have separated into two very separate phrases in a way I never heard when this fill just passes once as the anticlimax of the song.

This is pretty awesome. I really don't care for any of Collins' solo work but man I like this.

Next I think I want to make a half-hour loop out of a random passage of a live Geddy Lee drum solo. I'm pretty sure I have at least one Rush live album with that available.

(Oh and of course! That's part of why I'm hearing different parts at different times as I move about the apartment; I just went to the bathroom while this was still running loudly in the studio, and as I moved form one room to another, my hearing of it totally changed due to the acoustics. I live alone in a ground floor apartment, so I'm able to casually fill the whole room with this.)
posted by egypturnash at 11:58 AM on April 5, 2014 [2 favorites]


*cranks the bass way up and hears yet another variant* WHEEEE
posted by egypturnash at 12:01 PM on April 5, 2014 [2 favorites]


Next I think I want to make a half-hour loop out of a random passage of a live Geddy Lee drum solo. I'm pretty sure I have at least one Rush live album with that available.

I'm pretty sure there is no Rush album, live or studio, which has a Geddy Lee drum solo.
posted by hippybear at 12:09 PM on April 5, 2014 [13 favorites]


Okay. So I opened it in one window. Then a few seconds later in another, etc. until I had it open in eight windows.

This is an excellent way to simulate the soundtrack of the last 45 seconds or so of every episode of Game of Thrones.
posted by cortex at 12:12 PM on April 5, 2014


Hey egypturnash, your neighbors are calling the police.
posted by tommyD at 12:17 PM on April 5, 2014 [1 favorite]


Someone write a greasemonkey script that adds ", oh Lord" to the end of every sentence in this thread, TIA.
posted by rollick at 12:31 PM on April 5, 2014 [12 favorites]


DaddyNewt: I hate the way Phil is looking at me ... judging me

He was there, and he saw what you did. Saw it with his own two eyes.
posted by emelenjr at 12:47 PM on April 5, 2014 [10 favorites]


imagine you pressed play then fell and injured yourself and couldn't turn it off for the full 30 minutes and they found you white haired and babbling in a pool of urine

Well whose urine is it

The scenario kinda lives and dies there

Honestly
posted by Ray Walston, Luck Dragon at 1:57 PM on April 5, 2014 [3 favorites]


Worst Wedding DJ
posted by avocet
Oh. My. God.
posted by blueberry at 2:00 PM on April 5, 2014


Hunh. YouTube claims that it's blocked in my country on copyright grounds. Alaska: a different country.
posted by leahwrenn at 2:03 PM on April 5, 2014


So, I saw this linked on my New Music composer friend's FB feed in a post where he was debating with himself whether or not to start composing stuff in this direction. After listening to it and finding myself quite taken with it (much in the same way egypturnash is), I did a cursory search of YouTube to see if I could find anything similar and came up empty.

Any recommendations here?
posted by carsonb at 2:48 PM on April 5, 2014


> now I want to listen to this in two different loops that are running at slightly different speeds to make some sort of Steve Reich phase shifting nightmare.

Argh. And after reading that, so did I.

Steve Reich-ian Gated Snares (2) [one at 100%, one at 99% speed]
Steve Reich-ian Gated Snares (3) [one at 100%, one at 99% speed, one at 101% speed]

The 2-copy version sounds like it the slow one is "lapped" at about 4:18.
Mr. Reich has nothing to worry about. These are interesting, but no Music for Pieces of Wood or Clapping Music.

Used Final Cut because all the small hammers were insufficient. So, it's pitch-preserving time expansion/compression which usually is horrible for drums, but at very small deviations, flamming is minimized. It would be nice to have a tool for multichannel pitch shifting other than an old Emulator or $$Reason.
posted by morganw at 3:25 PM on April 5, 2014 [10 favorites]


It would be kind of awesome if this become, like, the new Amen Break.
posted by threeants at 3:36 PM on April 5, 2014 [1 favorite]


a live Geddy Lee drum solo
A what now?
posted by Daily Alice at 3:44 PM on April 5, 2014


I think egypturnash meant to say John Rutsey, rather than Geddy Lee.
posted by Cookiebastard at 4:30 PM on April 5, 2014


I'm pretty sure there is no Rush album, live or studio, which has a Geddy Lee drum solo.

It was a Yes album?
posted by Wolfdog at 4:42 PM on April 5, 2014


It was a Yes album?

*facepaw*
posted by hippybear at 4:51 PM on April 5, 2014 [1 favorite]


Also, I do not love Raymond.
posted by sonascope at 5:46 PM on April 5, 2014 [2 favorites]


Spoken like someone who hasn't listened to any Com Truise or Miami Nights 1984...

Asterix... thank you for that. I just looked up Miami Nights 1984, and i think i'm in love. There's an '80s synthpop itch in my brain that Daft Punk and old anime soundtracks can only scratch so much. This guy.... well, he just whales on it.

-buying his two albums and as many singles as i can find-
posted by ELF Radio at 6:48 PM on April 5, 2014 [1 favorite]


There's an '80s synthpop itch in my brain that Daft Punk and old anime soundtracks can only scratch so much.

La Roux's (thus far lamentably only) album is pretty good for that. So is anything by VNV Nation.
posted by hippybear at 6:53 PM on April 5, 2014


I'm pretty sure there is no Rush album, live or studio, which has a Geddy Lee drum solo.

It was a Yes album?

*facepaw*


To be clear, it was an Emerson Lake + Partridge album.
posted by philip-random at 7:33 PM on April 5, 2014 [2 favorites]


Ralph Waldo Emerson Lakefront Partridge Family Values
posted by flapjax at midnite at 7:36 PM on April 5, 2014 [3 favorites]


There's an '80s synthpop itch in my brain that Daft Punk and old anime soundtracks can only scratch so much.

Russ Chimes!
posted by bfranklin at 7:52 PM on April 5, 2014


No longer available in your country
posted by lalochezia at 8:09 PM on April 5, 2014


The gated reverb drum sound is terrific. Listen to the use Peter Gabriel makes of it (via Jerry Marotta and Phil Collins) on Peter Gabriel 3. And Phil Collins is a pretty good drummer. I mean, PG used him in solo work. That's saying something.
posted by professor plum with a rope at 2:21 AM on April 6, 2014


And Phil Collins is a pretty good drummer. I mean, PG used him in solo work.
Back when I was trying to convince myself I was into John Cale*, I was surprised to see Phil Collins had played drums with him.

*=It never really took, though I still love Paris 1919
posted by pxe2000 at 4:35 AM on April 6, 2014 [1 favorite]


The gated reverb drum sound is terrific.

Now see, that's the great thing about music. I personally find the gated reverb drum sound distinctly unappealing, but the next listener might really dig it, and that's fantastic. Music and sound come in a world of varieties, textures and shades, with something for everyone to enjoy. Vive la différence en musique!
posted by flapjax at midnite at 4:44 AM on April 6, 2014 [1 favorite]


The Yamaha SPX90 effects unit (introduced in 1985) could be found in virtually every live sound rig from the late 80's through at least the early 00's, and some systems still use 'em today.

Of course, a gated reverb effect was included in the stock factory sounds that couldn't be overwritten by the user.

The ability to throw the "Phil Collins drum sound" onto any drum set, especially when wildly inappropriate, was an important element in me being able to maintain some semblance of sanity through my mid to late 20's.

I may need to start doing that again . . . .
posted by soundguy99 at 8:05 AM on April 6, 2014


Considering the many worlds theory of Physics, it seems likely there is a universe where Rush is a band in which Geddy Lee plays drums, and Neil Peart plays bass and sings.

Alex Lifeson is the guitarist in all universes, of course.
posted by wittgenstein at 8:14 AM on April 6, 2014 [1 favorite]


now I want to listen to this in two different loops that are running at slightly different speeds to make some sort of Steve Reich phase shifting nightmare

Depending on how you cue it up, it can actually sound pretty sweet.
posted by Panjandrum at 10:48 AM on April 6, 2014 [3 favorites]


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