Smell Those Douglas Firs, Diane....
May 15, 2014 4:34 PM Subscribe
Finally, after 25 years, the conclusion to one TV's enduring mysteries is finally at hand... Finally, after 25 years, the conclusion to one TV's enduring mysteries is finally at hand with the Announcement of Twin Peaks - The Complete Mystery.
Promising such rich extras as the entire dual seasons ported to Blu-Ray with Log Lady introductions the boxed set will also include the much-maligned film prequel Fire Walk With Me and a host of extras, most incredibly the two-part feature “Between Two Worlds,” in which Lynch himself interviews the Palmer family (Leland, Sarah and daughter Laura) about their current existence in this life and the next, and follows up with a discussion with the actors who portray them. TWIN PEAKS – THE ENTIRE MYSTERY also features “Moving Through Time: Fire Walk With Me Memories,” an exclusive retrospective documentary featuring interviews with cast and crew who recount the making of the Twin Peaks movie and working with David Lynch.
Video teaser here and wonderful movie Lynch montage here.
Promising such rich extras as the entire dual seasons ported to Blu-Ray with Log Lady introductions the boxed set will also include the much-maligned film prequel Fire Walk With Me and a host of extras, most incredibly the two-part feature “Between Two Worlds,” in which Lynch himself interviews the Palmer family (Leland, Sarah and daughter Laura) about their current existence in this life and the next, and follows up with a discussion with the actors who portray them. TWIN PEAKS – THE ENTIRE MYSTERY also features “Moving Through Time: Fire Walk With Me Memories,” an exclusive retrospective documentary featuring interviews with cast and crew who recount the making of the Twin Peaks movie and working with David Lynch.
Video teaser here and wonderful movie Lynch montage here.
After all these years, I'm still amazed that Lynch managed to talk network executives into giving him a prime-time series. I haven't actually watched any of it since its first run; scary to think that it's been twenty-five years.
posted by octothorpe at 4:41 PM on May 15, 2014 [5 favorites]
posted by octothorpe at 4:41 PM on May 15, 2014 [5 favorites]
ported to Blu-Ray
Wrapped in plastic, no doubt.
posted by Celsius1414 at 4:42 PM on May 15, 2014 [26 favorites]
Wrapped in plastic, no doubt.
posted by Celsius1414 at 4:42 PM on May 15, 2014 [26 favorites]
SPOILERS, ROGER DODGER
Perhaps against my better judgment, I'm looking forward to this as much because of the significance of the anniversary in the show itself. Lynch's genius for the uncanny in the mundane was never better. Even if the second season undeniably went off the rails, he returned to pull off one of the greatest finales in television history, with, a nightmarish cliffhanger closing scene that defied continuation.
Not that I want to know what it all really means, of course.
posted by Doktor Zed at 4:44 PM on May 15, 2014 [9 favorites]
Perhaps against my better judgment, I'm looking forward to this as much because of the significance of the anniversary in the show itself. Lynch's genius for the uncanny in the mundane was never better. Even if the second season undeniably went off the rails, he returned to pull off one of the greatest finales in television history, with, a nightmarish cliffhanger closing scene that defied continuation.
Not that I want to know what it all really means, of course.
posted by Doktor Zed at 4:44 PM on May 15, 2014 [9 favorites]
Oh man, feel like this post is burying the lede a little. This is huge news:
Blu-ray box set boasts the long-awaited missing pieces from the original version of the film – nearly an hour-and-a-half of deleted/alternate scenes from Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me – often referred to as the “holy grail” of Twin Peaks fandom. This feature-length experience has been directed and edited by Lynch exclusively for this release. Capping off more than 30 deleted/alternate scenes is an epilogue providing a fascinating glimpse beyond the cliffhanger finale of the TV series.
"the much-maligned film prequel Fire Walk With Me"
I hated it the first time I saw it; now I think it's one of the greatest things that Lynch has ever done. It's the most emotionally direct and devastating of his works. Just shattering.
20 Years On: Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me Reassessed
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me Is David Lynch's Masterpiece
posted by naju at 4:48 PM on May 15, 2014 [24 favorites]
Blu-ray box set boasts the long-awaited missing pieces from the original version of the film – nearly an hour-and-a-half of deleted/alternate scenes from Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me – often referred to as the “holy grail” of Twin Peaks fandom. This feature-length experience has been directed and edited by Lynch exclusively for this release. Capping off more than 30 deleted/alternate scenes is an epilogue providing a fascinating glimpse beyond the cliffhanger finale of the TV series.
"the much-maligned film prequel Fire Walk With Me"
I hated it the first time I saw it; now I think it's one of the greatest things that Lynch has ever done. It's the most emotionally direct and devastating of his works. Just shattering.
20 Years On: Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me Reassessed
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me Is David Lynch's Masterpiece
posted by naju at 4:48 PM on May 15, 2014 [24 favorites]
I find it amazing that from Twin Peaks we get an entire GENRE of TV shows, right down to Gravity Falls.
posted by The Whelk at 4:55 PM on May 15, 2014 [10 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 4:55 PM on May 15, 2014 [10 favorites]
This must be why there was that twin peaks related casting call a few months ago.
posted by Catblack at 4:56 PM on May 15, 2014
posted by Catblack at 4:56 PM on May 15, 2014
I'll see you again in twenty-five years.
posted by adipocere at 5:07 PM on May 15, 2014 [5 favorites]
posted by adipocere at 5:07 PM on May 15, 2014 [5 favorites]
My need for beautiful weirdness has been appeased!
posted by Alexandra Kitty at 5:11 PM on May 15, 2014
posted by Alexandra Kitty at 5:11 PM on May 15, 2014
I really want to rewatch it but god help me I am not sitting through ten thousands hours of Pensive James Hurley Playing Guitar a third time. Is there a good cut-the-bullshit S2 watching order out there?
posted by griphus at 5:14 PM on May 15, 2014 [16 favorites]
posted by griphus at 5:14 PM on May 15, 2014 [16 favorites]
...is a book I still own...
One of the weirdest sentences I've ever said was "hey is this my copy of Laura Palmer's diary or yours?"
posted by griphus at 5:15 PM on May 15, 2014 [17 favorites]
One of the weirdest sentences I've ever said was "hey is this my copy of Laura Palmer's diary or yours?"
posted by griphus at 5:15 PM on May 15, 2014 [17 favorites]
I hated it the first time I saw it; now I think it's one of the greatest things that Lynch has ever done. It's the most emotionally direct and devastating of his works. Just shattering.
Back in the days when all I had was Wrapped in Plastic magazine and copies of shooting scripts to pour over - and a couple of the final episodes on VHS tape to watch, every scrap of information about FWWM got me both excited and scared for the prospect.
Then I read the shooting script and was ecstatic. Then I finally saw the finished film and was deflated.
But it didn't take me long to reassess and once I was able to watch the series and the film and the series and the film in the cyclical way the narrative intends... I've come to think of FWWM as a brilliant companion piece to the series. It rejects pandering to fans; these deleted scenes will be a gift, but the story of Laura Palmer as depicted in the theatrical cut is unsurpassed in Lynch's filmography. I love it so much.
This news is like a beautiful gift.
posted by crossoverman at 5:18 PM on May 15, 2014
Back in the days when all I had was Wrapped in Plastic magazine and copies of shooting scripts to pour over - and a couple of the final episodes on VHS tape to watch, every scrap of information about FWWM got me both excited and scared for the prospect.
Then I read the shooting script and was ecstatic. Then I finally saw the finished film and was deflated.
But it didn't take me long to reassess and once I was able to watch the series and the film and the series and the film in the cyclical way the narrative intends... I've come to think of FWWM as a brilliant companion piece to the series. It rejects pandering to fans; these deleted scenes will be a gift, but the story of Laura Palmer as depicted in the theatrical cut is unsurpassed in Lynch's filmography. I love it so much.
This news is like a beautiful gift.
posted by crossoverman at 5:18 PM on May 15, 2014
Yes but will we find out whether or not there really is a Diane?
posted by Kitty Stardust at 5:22 PM on May 15, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by Kitty Stardust at 5:22 PM on May 15, 2014 [1 favorite]
I think that in summary, many fans of the series thought the movie was not weird enough, and now we will be delighted to see the cut weird reappear, hoping against all hope that it will be confusing enough to reopen the mystery and make us wonder once again both "What the hell happened to Laura Palmer?" and, more importantly, "What the hell did I just watch?!?!"
posted by Muddler at 5:24 PM on May 15, 2014
posted by Muddler at 5:24 PM on May 15, 2014
Fire Walk With Me is the saddest film I have ever seen. And it's the true Twin Peaks story. The show is filtered. The film is the raw stuff.
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 5:25 PM on May 15, 2014 [17 favorites]
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 5:25 PM on May 15, 2014 [17 favorites]
I sort of blacked out there in the first paragraph of the announcement, and when I woke up, I had already pre-ordered it. I knew there was a reason I had held off on replacing my cobbled-together collection DVDs with the Gold Box Edition. I can barely contain my excitement right now.
posted by Brak at 5:34 PM on May 15, 2014 [5 favorites]
posted by Brak at 5:34 PM on May 15, 2014 [5 favorites]
Yes but will we find out whether or not there really is a Diane?
At least one of the deleted scenes is Dale Cooper talking to Diane at the FBI office, but I still think she's offscreen. In that trailer for the deleted scenes, we see Cooper kiss his hand at someone - it's Diane.
posted by crossoverman at 5:37 PM on May 15, 2014 [4 favorites]
At least one of the deleted scenes is Dale Cooper talking to Diane at the FBI office, but I still think she's offscreen. In that trailer for the deleted scenes, we see Cooper kiss his hand at someone - it's Diane.
posted by crossoverman at 5:37 PM on May 15, 2014 [4 favorites]
HARRR THERE BE SPOILERS
(yes, I haven't finished watching the show yet)
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perfect timing. I'm finishing season 2 right now for the first time. I'm about 2 episodes away from finishing (just saw wyndam tranquilize sgt. briggs). I was only a toddler when the show originally aired; I can imagine watching this show as it aired there: You'd have to wait an entire week and have no else to discuss it with (unless there was someone at your school?!). You would have to pour over your grainy VHS tapes [that you taped yourself] for clues.
Nowadays, every detail would be pored over on every internet community (that's not a bad thing).
Muddler: " What the hell did I just watch?!?!""
I'm feeling that way now as well.. I first watched the series in 2010/11 and gave up shortly after Laura died; I didn't sense any reason to continue. I've watched it through for the first time since then recently and decided to stick with it.
I still have so many questions: who is the short guy that appears in the red velvet curtain scenes? The guy with the big head that gives cooper clues throughout the story? How did Josie meet packard (or that other guy who didn't appear until season2?) in the first place?
posted by fizzix at 5:38 PM on May 15, 2014
BTW for those interested Lynch has backed off his claims that he's done making movies.
posted by shakespeherian at 5:42 PM on May 15, 2014 [4 favorites]
posted by shakespeherian at 5:42 PM on May 15, 2014 [4 favorites]
SPOILERS KINDA:
I watched until it was revealed know who/what the killer is, and then 1 or 2 episodes after that (Agent Cooper has gone home). It's kind of boring now and everyone has told me it would be boring. Hard-code fans, is there any point in watching all the way to the end?
posted by Pruitt-Igoe at 5:43 PM on May 15, 2014
I watched until it was revealed know who/what the killer is, and then 1 or 2 episodes after that (Agent Cooper has gone home). It's kind of boring now and everyone has told me it would be boring. Hard-code fans, is there any point in watching all the way to the end?
posted by Pruitt-Igoe at 5:43 PM on May 15, 2014
gave up shortly after Laura died
Tough crowd.
posted by crossoverman at 5:43 PM on May 15, 2014 [38 favorites]
Tough crowd.
posted by crossoverman at 5:43 PM on May 15, 2014 [38 favorites]
So Bob comes back.
posted by Pruitt-Igoe at 5:49 PM on May 15, 2014
posted by Pruitt-Igoe at 5:49 PM on May 15, 2014
The finale is worth all the pain of the mediocre back half of season 2. Lynch kinda wandered off to make Wild at Heart and anytime Lynch wasn't on set the show started to lose its way but IIRC the episode directed by Diane Keaton (YES) is the first part of the upswing into Good Again.
posted by shakespeherian at 5:50 PM on May 15, 2014 [7 favorites]
posted by shakespeherian at 5:50 PM on May 15, 2014 [7 favorites]
I watched until it was revealed know who/what the killer is, and then 1 or 2 episodes after that (Agent Cooper has gone home). It's kind of boring now and everyone has told me it would be boring. Hard-code fans, is there any point in watching all the way to the end?
Yes. the final episode is directed by Lynch and has to be seen to be believed. It's worth the pain....
posted by Mintyblonde at 5:53 PM on May 15, 2014 [3 favorites]
Yes. the final episode is directed by Lynch and has to be seen to be believed. It's worth the pain....
posted by Mintyblonde at 5:53 PM on May 15, 2014 [3 favorites]
That gum you like is going to come back in style.
posted by Chitownfats at 5:54 PM on May 15, 2014 [12 favorites]
posted by Chitownfats at 5:54 PM on May 15, 2014 [12 favorites]
I'd never watched Twin Peaks until 1995, when a friend of mine who was a bit of a fanatic about it came over to my apartment in Toronto, and we fulfilled a pledge to watch the entire series, beginning to end, including Fire Walk With Me, on VHS cassette.
While drinking nothing but coffee, and eating nothing but cherry pie.
We bought six cherry pies and started the coffee machine and damned if we didn't do it, but I can't remember shit after the whiny guy starts riding a motorcycle a lot.
posted by Shepherd at 6:01 PM on May 15, 2014 [8 favorites]
While drinking nothing but coffee, and eating nothing but cherry pie.
We bought six cherry pies and started the coffee machine and damned if we didn't do it, but I can't remember shit after the whiny guy starts riding a motorcycle a lot.
posted by Shepherd at 6:01 PM on May 15, 2014 [8 favorites]
For all the first-time watchers and those willing to not spoil things for first-time watchers, it would be kind of awesome to go through the entire series episode-by-episode on FanFare. Eh? Right?
posted by naju at 6:13 PM on May 15, 2014 [15 favorites]
posted by naju at 6:13 PM on May 15, 2014 [15 favorites]
Does anyone really believe David Lynch will actually answer any of the remaining mysteries?
I'm another one who couldn't make it through the 22 episodes of season 2, and thus didn't bother with the movie. Are there perhaps select episodes that we could watch to bring us up to the finale?
posted by kanewai at 6:19 PM on May 15, 2014
I'm another one who couldn't make it through the 22 episodes of season 2, and thus didn't bother with the movie. Are there perhaps select episodes that we could watch to bring us up to the finale?
posted by kanewai at 6:19 PM on May 15, 2014
The missing scenes from FWWM should include substantially more Bowie! I'm excited.
posted by jason_steakums at 6:24 PM on May 15, 2014 [5 favorites]
posted by jason_steakums at 6:24 PM on May 15, 2014 [5 favorites]
$109.00 strikes me as very reasonable price for this. It seems hard to believe now, but back at the dawn of home video, a single movie on VHS was close to $100.00.
posted by davebush at 6:46 PM on May 15, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by davebush at 6:46 PM on May 15, 2014 [1 favorite]
My mom most emphatically did not Get this show at all but for some reason she indulged the fact that my sister and I were obsessed with it, and would buy us either cherry pie or doughnuts every week to eat while we watched it. I am going to love buying this and revisiting it. Gonna need a new pair of saddle shoes, I think.
posted by padraigin at 6:56 PM on May 15, 2014 [13 favorites]
posted by padraigin at 6:56 PM on May 15, 2014 [13 favorites]
Does anyone really believe David Lynch will actually answer any of the remaining mysteries?
There are no remaining mysteries. Only answers you'd rather not confront.
posted by shakespeherian at 7:00 PM on May 15, 2014 [9 favorites]
There are no remaining mysteries. Only answers you'd rather not confront.
posted by shakespeherian at 7:00 PM on May 15, 2014 [9 favorites]
My mom most emphatically did not Get this show at all but for some reason she indulged the fact that my sister and I were obsessed with it, and would buy us either cherry pie or doughnuts every week to eat while we watched it.
Aww! What a great mom.
posted by naju at 7:07 PM on May 15, 2014 [12 favorites]
Aww! What a great mom.
posted by naju at 7:07 PM on May 15, 2014 [12 favorites]
Is this the closure fans have so long (ahem) pined for?
Slow golf clap. I'm so buying this.
posted by arcticseal at 7:47 PM on May 15, 2014
Slow golf clap. I'm so buying this.
posted by arcticseal at 7:47 PM on May 15, 2014
Nadine's bit about silent drape runners popped into my head waiting to go into work this morning. I guess I know why. Totally buying this.
posted by daninnj at 7:55 PM on May 15, 2014
posted by daninnj at 7:55 PM on May 15, 2014
Make sure you have plenty of creamed corn on hand.
posted by dr_dank at 8:45 PM on May 15, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by dr_dank at 8:45 PM on May 15, 2014 [2 favorites]
My cousin is several years older than me, and we never really got along. One Christmas, I was over at my aunt's house, and somehow my cousin and I discovered that we were both big fans of Twin Peaks and we had our first real conversation about the soundtrack, the show, and the theories of what was going on. So thanks to David Lynch for making that holiday a little less awkward.
posted by mogget at 8:46 PM on May 15, 2014
posted by mogget at 8:46 PM on May 15, 2014
EXCELLENT
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me is excellent. I don't care what anyone says. It's my favorite horror film of all time and maybe also my favorite David Lynch film. Its fragmentary nature only makes it better.
posted by Sticherbeast at 9:12 PM on May 15, 2014
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me is excellent. I don't care what anyone says. It's my favorite horror film of all time and maybe also my favorite David Lynch film. Its fragmentary nature only makes it better.
posted by Sticherbeast at 9:12 PM on May 15, 2014
Not even the parts with Harry Connick Jr. and Kiefer Sutherland?
posted by Sticherbeast at 9:28 PM on May 15, 2014
posted by Sticherbeast at 9:28 PM on May 15, 2014
Not even the parts with Harry Connick Jr. and Kiefer Sutherland?
CHRIS ISAAK, MOTHERFUCKER!
posted by crossoverman at 9:38 PM on May 15, 2014 [8 favorites]
CHRIS ISAAK, MOTHERFUCKER!
posted by crossoverman at 9:38 PM on May 15, 2014 [8 favorites]
The finale is worth all the pain of the mediocre back half of season 2. Lynch kinda wandered off to make Wild at Heart
I just don't really understand how this fallacy started or why it perpetuates. I agree that Lynch's absenteeism hurt the show, but it wasn't because of Wild at Heart.
Wild at Heart premiered at Cannes in May 1990. At the same time, Twin Peaks first season was airing.
Lynch later shot the second season premiere - at around the same time that WAH was opening in North America.
posted by crossoverman at 9:48 PM on May 15, 2014
I just don't really understand how this fallacy started or why it perpetuates. I agree that Lynch's absenteeism hurt the show, but it wasn't because of Wild at Heart.
Wild at Heart premiered at Cannes in May 1990. At the same time, Twin Peaks first season was airing.
Lynch later shot the second season premiere - at around the same time that WAH was opening in North America.
posted by crossoverman at 9:48 PM on May 15, 2014
CHRIS ISAAK, MOTHERFUCKER!
Ha, whoops.
hey remember when brian setzer was in twin peaks fwwm
posted by Sticherbeast at 9:49 PM on May 15, 2014
Ha, whoops.
hey remember when brian setzer was in twin peaks fwwm
posted by Sticherbeast at 9:49 PM on May 15, 2014
Ha, whoops.
Sorry, I have a special affection for Special Agent Chester Desmond and his drawl.
posted by crossoverman at 9:58 PM on May 15, 2014 [2 favorites]
Sorry, I have a special affection for Special Agent Chester Desmond and his drawl.
posted by crossoverman at 9:58 PM on May 15, 2014 [2 favorites]
No, I do too. I'm embarrassed that I made that mistake.
posted by Sticherbeast at 10:17 PM on May 15, 2014
posted by Sticherbeast at 10:17 PM on May 15, 2014
Chris Isaak also plays an FBI agent in Silence of the Lambs. I like to pretend it's the same guy.
posted by crossoverman at 11:38 PM on May 15, 2014 [3 favorites]
posted by crossoverman at 11:38 PM on May 15, 2014 [3 favorites]
At age 21, I spent more time thinking about what was going on in Twin Peaks than what was going on in my own real life. One of my fondest college memories was some time after the first season was done. I had a friend who was prescient enough to tape the whole series and held a marathon viewing one weekend for all the stragglers who were too cool for TV and missed it. Those of us who'd seen it before dropped acid for the second viewing. It was shown in one continuous break less run from Saturday morning to Sunday morning. There were a few people who came and went, but I'd say 80% of the 20 or so of us made it, start to finish, huddled around a fancy projection TV in a darkened room one beautiful summer weekend in Santa Cruz.
Now I live in the PNW and have been to most of the outdoor shooting locations. There are bus loads of Japanese tourists, apparently you can buy the whole Twin Peaks tour package in Japan. I have friends who were extras in the series. One guy, a Mefite actually, appears in the background through the window at the Double R Diner cursing at his VW bus which had just broken down. Last summer a buddy of mine got married at this beautiful spot out in Poulsbo on the water. As I walk in, I get the weirdest déjà vu, where have I seen this place? Why, it's the Great Northern Lodge! The Kiana Hotel was used for all the interiors, and many of the exteriors. That log outside by the water, that's where Pete found Laura's body wrapped in plastic. Imagine having your first dance with your bride/groom in the same room where Leland loses his shit sobbing trying to dance with all the strangers when that song came on at the Great Northern.
I don't expect I'll ever have the time to watch it, but I'll probably buy this set, just to have it.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 12:25 AM on May 16, 2014 [6 favorites]
Now I live in the PNW and have been to most of the outdoor shooting locations. There are bus loads of Japanese tourists, apparently you can buy the whole Twin Peaks tour package in Japan. I have friends who were extras in the series. One guy, a Mefite actually, appears in the background through the window at the Double R Diner cursing at his VW bus which had just broken down. Last summer a buddy of mine got married at this beautiful spot out in Poulsbo on the water. As I walk in, I get the weirdest déjà vu, where have I seen this place? Why, it's the Great Northern Lodge! The Kiana Hotel was used for all the interiors, and many of the exteriors. That log outside by the water, that's where Pete found Laura's body wrapped in plastic. Imagine having your first dance with your bride/groom in the same room where Leland loses his shit sobbing trying to dance with all the strangers when that song came on at the Great Northern.
I don't expect I'll ever have the time to watch it, but I'll probably buy this set, just to have it.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 12:25 AM on May 16, 2014 [6 favorites]
25 years? Really?
Now I feel old.
I had a friend who was prescient enough to tape the whole series and held a marathon viewing one weekend for all the stragglers who were too cool for TV and missed it. Those of us who'd seen it before dropped acid for the second viewing. It was shown in one continuous break less run from Saturday morning to Sunday morning. There were a few people who came and went, but I'd say 80% of the 20 or so of us made it, start to finish, huddled around a fancy projection TV in a darkened room one beautiful summer weekend in Santa Cruz.
Feeling ya. We only had Season One so ours was only the half marathon, but it made up for that by being held in the picnic shelter at the top of Mount Donna Buang, with a wood fire inside and a generator outside to power the TV and VHS.
posted by flabdablet at 1:16 AM on May 16, 2014
Now I feel old.
I had a friend who was prescient enough to tape the whole series and held a marathon viewing one weekend for all the stragglers who were too cool for TV and missed it. Those of us who'd seen it before dropped acid for the second viewing. It was shown in one continuous break less run from Saturday morning to Sunday morning. There were a few people who came and went, but I'd say 80% of the 20 or so of us made it, start to finish, huddled around a fancy projection TV in a darkened room one beautiful summer weekend in Santa Cruz.
Feeling ya. We only had Season One so ours was only the half marathon, but it made up for that by being held in the picnic shelter at the top of Mount Donna Buang, with a wood fire inside and a generator outside to power the TV and VHS.
posted by flabdablet at 1:16 AM on May 16, 2014
The Man from Another Place, was very peculiar (wikipedia quote) "The strange cadence of the Man’s dialogue was achieved by having Anderson speak into a recorder. This was then played in reverse, and Anderson was directed to repeat the reversed original. This “reverse-speak” was then reversed again in editing to bring it back to the normal direction. This created the strange rhythm and accentuation that set Cooper’s dream world apart from the real world".
Utube carries on the weirdness as an area 51 survivor.
posted by Narrative_Historian at 1:53 AM on May 16, 2014 [1 favorite]
Utube carries on the weirdness as an area 51 survivor.
posted by Narrative_Historian at 1:53 AM on May 16, 2014 [1 favorite]
I was 10 in 1990 when Twin Peak was on TV. For some reason, my mom let me and my sister (who was 13) watch every episode. We were absolutely obsessed. I remember sitting right in front of the TV glued to each episode right through the last one.
We weren't allow to watch The Simpsons or Roseanne. We weren't allowed to chew gum or wear jelly bracelets. We got grounded for saying shut up or stupid.
A show about a murdered teenage girl, totally fine. I have to text my mom now to ask her what she was thinking.
posted by elvissa at 5:36 AM on May 16, 2014 [3 favorites]
We weren't allow to watch The Simpsons or Roseanne. We weren't allowed to chew gum or wear jelly bracelets. We got grounded for saying shut up or stupid.
A show about a murdered teenage girl, totally fine. I have to text my mom now to ask her what she was thinking.
posted by elvissa at 5:36 AM on May 16, 2014 [3 favorites]
So are the deleted scenes restored as part of Fire Walk With Me? Or are they just separate fragments? I'm unclear about how satisfied Lynch was with the version that ultimately went to theaters.
posted by picea at 5:44 AM on May 16, 2014
posted by picea at 5:44 AM on May 16, 2014
Last year, I discovered that Twin Peaks was on Netflix, and I rewatched it for the first time since the 1990s. Damn if it is not 10 times more incredible than I remembered. I was expecting the drop off after Laura's murderer is revealed, but frankly, it wasn't bad at all. Twin Peaks at its worst was 10 times better than everything else on TV. And that finale! I did not remember it being that good. It is up there with "The City On The Edge Of Forever" in the running for the best hour of television ever produced.
posted by vibrotronica at 8:57 AM on May 16, 2014
posted by vibrotronica at 8:57 AM on May 16, 2014
I spent most of the last two years of high school OBSESSED with Twin Peaks. I too still have my copy of Laura Palmer's diary. I think I might also have a Twin Peaks tourist guide that IIRC I won at a Twin Peaks-themed party. I had the soundtrack* tape, which I listened to over and over again on the bus to school. (My boyfriend at the time was really into weird movies, and introduced me to Lynch beyond Twin Peaks. I watched Blue Velvet with his family, which went waaaaay beyond weird.)
And Twin Peaks is one of the reasons why I moved from southern California to the Pacific Northwest. The trees, Diane.
Oh damn, I'd forgotten until just now that someone gave me a little stuffed bear when I left for college, and I named it Diane. It sat on mom's dash the whole drive from Altadena to Tacoma.
* Am I totally hallucinating the existence of a cassette supposedly of Dale's recordings for Diane? Because now I swear I had such a thing, or possibly copied it from a friend who was similarly obsessed.
posted by epersonae at 8:59 AM on May 16, 2014 [1 favorite]
And Twin Peaks is one of the reasons why I moved from southern California to the Pacific Northwest. The trees, Diane.
Oh damn, I'd forgotten until just now that someone gave me a little stuffed bear when I left for college, and I named it Diane. It sat on mom's dash the whole drive from Altadena to Tacoma.
* Am I totally hallucinating the existence of a cassette supposedly of Dale's recordings for Diane? Because now I swear I had such a thing, or possibly copied it from a friend who was similarly obsessed.
posted by epersonae at 8:59 AM on May 16, 2014 [1 favorite]
i am bound by the fury of my own momentum
I am so excited about that hour and a half of supplemental footage. Fire Walk With Me is a really difficult movie, but honest and humane, in a way, more than most movies I can think of.
The first time I saw it we were all frying balls on acid and it was actually a great way to experience the movie. I think we watched it twice and watched the scene with David Bowie more times than that. I was briefly annoyed that Donna Hayward was played by a different actress until I realized it's actually kind of cool, and why do we even trip so hard on characters being played by the same actors anyway? That thought propelled me to places.
We watch Twin Peaks every winter. Yes, even the horrible Season 2 parts where the show lapses into self-parody. I'm adamant that Dale's folly is the folly of anyone who sees themselves as a good person, who trusts in their skills and wants to help others. Maybe this makes me a slightly more boutique version of the people who are really heavy into being Jedis or Dune. Don't care.
posted by beefetish at 10:09 AM on May 16, 2014 [4 favorites]
I am so excited about that hour and a half of supplemental footage. Fire Walk With Me is a really difficult movie, but honest and humane, in a way, more than most movies I can think of.
The first time I saw it we were all frying balls on acid and it was actually a great way to experience the movie. I think we watched it twice and watched the scene with David Bowie more times than that. I was briefly annoyed that Donna Hayward was played by a different actress until I realized it's actually kind of cool, and why do we even trip so hard on characters being played by the same actors anyway? That thought propelled me to places.
We watch Twin Peaks every winter. Yes, even the horrible Season 2 parts where the show lapses into self-parody. I'm adamant that Dale's folly is the folly of anyone who sees themselves as a good person, who trusts in their skills and wants to help others. Maybe this makes me a slightly more boutique version of the people who are really heavy into being Jedis or Dune. Don't care.
posted by beefetish at 10:09 AM on May 16, 2014 [4 favorites]
OK someone's gotta be that guy. I'll do it. This release is going to be terrible.
I absolutely loved Twin Peaks when it came out and I was 18. But I tried to watch it again recently and honestly, even the best parts of Season 1 were pretty awful. It was a fun show and I'm grateful to Lynch and Frost for bringing this style of serial weirdness to American TV. But the acting was awful, the pacing was bad, and it's clear the scriptwriters had no idea what they were doing week to week. The Fire Walk With Me movie was also a failure for a reason, it wasn't some hidden overlooked gem or anything. Fans watched it and mostly were revolted. An extra 90 minutes of poorly edited leftover footage is not going to improve the experience. (And I say this as someone who actually likes the long edit of Dune.)
That's my fear at least. I wish there were some way to polish the original because it had its moments of brilliance.
posted by Nelson at 10:22 AM on May 16, 2014
I absolutely loved Twin Peaks when it came out and I was 18. But I tried to watch it again recently and honestly, even the best parts of Season 1 were pretty awful. It was a fun show and I'm grateful to Lynch and Frost for bringing this style of serial weirdness to American TV. But the acting was awful, the pacing was bad, and it's clear the scriptwriters had no idea what they were doing week to week. The Fire Walk With Me movie was also a failure for a reason, it wasn't some hidden overlooked gem or anything. Fans watched it and mostly were revolted. An extra 90 minutes of poorly edited leftover footage is not going to improve the experience. (And I say this as someone who actually likes the long edit of Dune.)
That's my fear at least. I wish there were some way to polish the original because it had its moments of brilliance.
posted by Nelson at 10:22 AM on May 16, 2014
*sends Nelson to the Black Lodge*
posted by Drexen at 11:20 AM on May 16, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by Drexen at 11:20 AM on May 16, 2014 [2 favorites]
And yet still no Buffy bluray, and for some bizarre reason, the only HDTV X-Files release has been on German TV.
posted by meehawl at 12:01 PM on May 16, 2014
posted by meehawl at 12:01 PM on May 16, 2014
"frying balls on acid"
I wrote a one-act play over 30 years ago that has sat in a drawer awaiting
the absolutely, most perfect title ...
posted by Chitownfats at 12:26 PM on May 16, 2014 [1 favorite]
I wrote a one-act play over 30 years ago that has sat in a drawer awaiting
the absolutely, most perfect title ...
posted by Chitownfats at 12:26 PM on May 16, 2014 [1 favorite]
Twin Peaks was great, for being David Lynch's second best TV series.
posted by stenseng at 3:25 PM on May 16, 2014
posted by stenseng at 3:25 PM on May 16, 2014
We used to dress up and watch the new episodes in the Ithaca College student lounge. I remember going as Deputy Andy one time, covered in Post-it Notes. What I did best, though, was a killer Lucy voice.
I was disappointed in the film, and disappointed in the end of the series. (Josie...door knob...wat?) But I was only 19 or 20 and I've never revisited the show. I might feel differently now. Watching Twin Peaks certainly primed me for being A FAN in a way that I never had been before. When X-Files came around, I was ready for it.
posted by Biblio at 3:52 PM on May 16, 2014
I was disappointed in the film, and disappointed in the end of the series. (Josie...door knob...wat?) But I was only 19 or 20 and I've never revisited the show. I might feel differently now. Watching Twin Peaks certainly primed me for being A FAN in a way that I never had been before. When X-Files came around, I was ready for it.
posted by Biblio at 3:52 PM on May 16, 2014
My fraternity was on probation when Twin Peaks was on which meant our entire house gathered and watched the show Friday nights before we went out. It was probably the only thing all 70 of us agreed on. This also being back in the day where we basically had one television in the house.
My ex bought me the DVDs one year for my birthday. For some copyright reason they couldn't include the pilot so she had to get me a bootleg from China. That was some pretty skilled early internet sleuthing.
posted by MarvinTheCat at 4:44 PM on May 16, 2014
My ex bought me the DVDs one year for my birthday. For some copyright reason they couldn't include the pilot so she had to get me a bootleg from China. That was some pretty skilled early internet sleuthing.
posted by MarvinTheCat at 4:44 PM on May 16, 2014
So are the deleted scenes restored as part of Fire Walk With Me? Or are they just separate fragments? I'm unclear about how satisfied Lynch was with the version that ultimately went to theaters
The shooting script has a lot of scenes of characters from the TV series doing things during Laura Palmer's last week of life. If every scene from the script had been included, the film probably would have run four hours or something. It was all shot, hence the 90 minutes of deleted scenes.
But Lynch decided that the focus should be on Laura's last week - and the prologue in the town of Deer Meadow is sort of a dark homage to the series. And the film absolutely benefits from eschewing everything not related to Laura's character. That's why Cooper's role is so small, even though through Lynchian weirdness we get more of him than we would have otherwise. Also David Bowie.
So I think he's happy with the finished film. The BluRay will not have a different edit of the film - but I believe the 90 minutes of footage has been edited into some kind of parallel film, post-produced and perhaps scored as well? You can tell from the trailer these aren't just your typical DVD deleted scenes that have never been touched. These look BluRay quality as well.
posted by crossoverman at 6:06 PM on May 16, 2014 [1 favorite]
The shooting script has a lot of scenes of characters from the TV series doing things during Laura Palmer's last week of life. If every scene from the script had been included, the film probably would have run four hours or something. It was all shot, hence the 90 minutes of deleted scenes.
But Lynch decided that the focus should be on Laura's last week - and the prologue in the town of Deer Meadow is sort of a dark homage to the series. And the film absolutely benefits from eschewing everything not related to Laura's character. That's why Cooper's role is so small, even though through Lynchian weirdness we get more of him than we would have otherwise. Also David Bowie.
So I think he's happy with the finished film. The BluRay will not have a different edit of the film - but I believe the 90 minutes of footage has been edited into some kind of parallel film, post-produced and perhaps scored as well? You can tell from the trailer these aren't just your typical DVD deleted scenes that have never been touched. These look BluRay quality as well.
posted by crossoverman at 6:06 PM on May 16, 2014 [1 favorite]
The thing that struck me about Season 2: the music disappeared. Angelo Badalamenti's score for Season 1 was so ripe and dreamy it gave everything it's dream-blessing. Then with Season 2 we got a lot of hums and buzzes and drones instead of the lushness. I missed the music terribly.
posted by argybarg at 9:27 PM on May 16, 2014
posted by argybarg at 9:27 PM on May 16, 2014
Biblio, I frequently point at furniture and ask if Josie is in it.
posted by armacy at 5:39 AM on May 17, 2014
posted by armacy at 5:39 AM on May 17, 2014
MarvintheCat, I remember it being Thursday, not Friday, nights. . . ?
I hosted a couple of viewing parties, and one guest was a huge Lynch fan who shouted "Lynchism!" whenever he spotted a detail that he thought only Lynch would include, such as a slow-motion shot up the stairs at the Palmer home that cut to a close-up of a ceiling fan, its noise amplified. Somehow, Lynch made that really ominous.
Sometime during the show's initial run I went to a reading by Hanif Kureishi. The audience began rustling noises halfway in, maybe because Kureishi was reading incredibly slowly so as to milk every last possible giggle from the first chapter of A Buddha in Suburbia, and he looked up. "Are you rushing home to tv? Because during last night's reading everyone left to go watch a tv show."
posted by goofyfoot at 7:24 PM on May 17, 2014
I hosted a couple of viewing parties, and one guest was a huge Lynch fan who shouted "Lynchism!" whenever he spotted a detail that he thought only Lynch would include, such as a slow-motion shot up the stairs at the Palmer home that cut to a close-up of a ceiling fan, its noise amplified. Somehow, Lynch made that really ominous.
Sometime during the show's initial run I went to a reading by Hanif Kureishi. The audience began rustling noises halfway in, maybe because Kureishi was reading incredibly slowly so as to milk every last possible giggle from the first chapter of A Buddha in Suburbia, and he looked up. "Are you rushing home to tv? Because during last night's reading everyone left to go watch a tv show."
posted by goofyfoot at 7:24 PM on May 17, 2014
I remember lucking out and getting to see the initial two part episode on the big screen as part of the Vancouver Film Festival before the show was on tv.
I had no idea what to expect but the theatre was packed with Lynch fans.
And we all cringed and shuddered when Agent Cooper pulls the letter out from under the fingernail - that extreme closeup on a theatre screen...
Somewhere I have the full sealed pack of the trading cards but got rid of my 'damn fine cup of coffee' t-shirt...
posted by drinkmaildave at 9:19 PM on May 17, 2014
I had no idea what to expect but the theatre was packed with Lynch fans.
And we all cringed and shuddered when Agent Cooper pulls the letter out from under the fingernail - that extreme closeup on a theatre screen...
Somewhere I have the full sealed pack of the trading cards but got rid of my 'damn fine cup of coffee' t-shirt...
posted by drinkmaildave at 9:19 PM on May 17, 2014
I hope this big Twin Peaks box set also explains season 4 of Battlestar Galactica because what the hell?
posted by turbid dahlia at 6:35 PM on May 19, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by turbid dahlia at 6:35 PM on May 19, 2014 [1 favorite]
Chris Isaak also plays an FBI agent in Silence of the Lambs. I like to pretend it's the same guy.
omg no, he's SWAT in Silence of the Lambs, do you even visual entertainment?
posted by turbid dahlia at 6:41 PM on May 19, 2014
omg no, he's SWAT in Silence of the Lambs, do you even visual entertainment?
posted by turbid dahlia at 6:41 PM on May 19, 2014
Mid-career change.
posted by crossoverman at 7:33 PM on May 19, 2014
posted by crossoverman at 7:33 PM on May 19, 2014
I'm pretty excited for more Special Agent Phillip Jeffries.
posted by EXISTENZ IS PAUSED at 2:30 AM on May 20, 2014
posted by EXISTENZ IS PAUSED at 2:30 AM on May 20, 2014
WHAT IF THE EXTRA FOOTAGE INCLUDES HIM TALKING ABOUT JUDY??????
posted by EXISTENZ IS PAUSED at 2:30 AM on May 20, 2014
posted by EXISTENZ IS PAUSED at 2:30 AM on May 20, 2014
Didn't David Duchovny play an FBI agent in Twin Peaks ?
posted by Pendragon at 7:49 AM on May 20, 2014
posted by Pendragon at 7:49 AM on May 20, 2014
Yup, as Denise, who is trans*.
posted by shakespeherian at 8:02 AM on May 20, 2014
posted by shakespeherian at 8:02 AM on May 20, 2014
I don't know why that reminds me, but it does: apparently in the X-Men universe the events of Twin Peaks are real, but it's also a TV show, which means maybe it's a reality show? (American History X-Men)
posted by epersonae at 11:03 AM on May 20, 2014
posted by epersonae at 11:03 AM on May 20, 2014
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