"In short, goats are pretty much everywhere."
January 13, 2015 10:32 AM   Subscribe

 
The headline is 3 orders of magnitude off.
posted by So You're Saying These Are Pants? at 10:42 AM on January 13, 2015 [7 favorites]


Well, some goats, certainly.
posted by angerbot at 10:44 AM on January 13, 2015 [1 favorite]


this gets my goat
posted by mullacc at 10:45 AM on January 13, 2015


What is Texas doing with all those goats? They are up to something.
posted by graymouser at 10:47 AM on January 13, 2015 [1 favorite]


But how many of these goats are wearing coats? How many are in towers? How many are actually pigs in sweaters? Get with the GIS layers, folks!
posted by GenjiandProust at 10:47 AM on January 13, 2015 [4 favorites]


"One dot = 500 goats"
I feel cheated.
posted by BinaryApe at 10:48 AM on January 13, 2015 [19 favorites]


Yes, this could have been so much cooler.

Of course, live-tracking literally every goat, with realtime updates overlaid on Google maps would be so much cooler as well.
posted by Windopaene at 10:50 AM on January 13, 2015 [4 favorites]


It seems appropriate to mention here that my parents got me a Goats in Trees calendar for my birthday. It is highly satisfactory.
posted by ChuraChura at 10:52 AM on January 13, 2015 [3 favorites]


Title is inaccurate, I've got a goat right here and I'll be damned if Obama is going to register and steal it from me with his so-called goat control
posted by East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94 at 10:53 AM on January 13, 2015 [17 favorites]


#notAllGoats
posted by Nerd of the North at 10:54 AM on January 13, 2015 [10 favorites]


hmm, the county-by-county map says 0 goats for San Francisco (if you position your mouse very well to hit it), but we have City Grazing. Perhaps they keep their goats elsewhere? Or missed the census.
posted by zachlipton at 10:57 AM on January 13, 2015


What is Texas doing with all those goats? They are up to something.

Chupacabra?
posted by The 10th Regiment of Foot at 11:00 AM on January 13, 2015 [2 favorites]


I too would also like to complain about the title. But seriously, I looked at my home state of Montana and the dots are so sparse as to be meaningless: is there really one giant goat ranch up in our northeast corner?

The shaded county-by-county map lower down is easier to read. That's one heck of a goat-desert in Inyo county, California! But it also shows why the dots are bad: the shaded map says Phillips county, Montana, has 58 goats. The dot map just shows it as a big blank area of no goats.

(Also, anyone know why the Mississippi Delta would be a goatless zone in the middle of so many goats?)

The word 'goat' is starting to lose meaning for me. goat goat goat goat
posted by traveler_ at 11:03 AM on January 13, 2015 [5 favorites]


... is there really one giant goat ranch up in our northeast corner?

And, if so, have they all been issued coats?
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 11:05 AM on January 13, 2015 [1 favorite]


This map makes me squee!
posted by annsunny at 11:05 AM on January 13, 2015


zachlipton: yeah, I noticed that too. The data is from the agricultural census, so maybe they didn't include goats in other lines of work. Grazing goats, service goats for the blind, racing goats, etc.

For Contra Costa County it interestingly says "A small number of goats but numbers were withheld to avoid disclosing data for individual farms". Are there really that few farms with goats in Contra Costa?
posted by aubilenon at 11:05 AM on January 13, 2015 [1 favorite]


(Also, anyone know why the Mississippi Delta would be a goatless zone in the middle of so many goats?)

Gator got your goat?
posted by Sys Rq at 11:07 AM on January 13, 2015 [1 favorite]


The dot map just shows it as a big blank area of no goats.

This will be the only safe zone left when those assholes run amok. Don't say you weren't warned.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 11:08 AM on January 13, 2015


City Grazing probably uses undocumented migrant workers.
posted by MtDewd at 11:09 AM on January 13, 2015 [3 favorites]


Are there really that few farms with goats in Contra Costa?

More importantly, why are the number of goats per farm a closely guarded secret?
posted by graymouser at 11:09 AM on January 13, 2015


Also, anyone know why the Mississippi Delta would be a goatless zone in the middle of so many goats?

Because even goats have a boredom threshold.

But seriously, all this made me think of this discussion concerning "Cattle Identification Documents".
posted by AlonzoMosleyFBI at 11:10 AM on January 13, 2015


I, for one, welcome our new goat overlords.
posted by photoslob at 11:12 AM on January 13, 2015


racing goats

That's a thing? Is there a goat track?
posted by Area Man at 11:12 AM on January 13, 2015 [1 favorite]


What the hell good is a military drone armada and a horribly intrusive corporate databank of everybody and everything they've ever done and a berserk national intelligence apparatus recording everything if we still have to aggregate the fucking goats into groups of 500?

Why isn't this down to the individual goat with positions updated in real time? 500 goats per dot! It's like we're trapped in the 70s or something!

it must be some kind of... goat map time machine...
posted by Naberius at 11:13 AM on January 13, 2015 [10 favorites]


I immediately checked to see if they had counted the one goat of my acquaintance (okay I drive by him sometimes) and am pleased to report that I have AT LEAST 500 neighbor goats. Delightful.
posted by Snarl Furillo at 11:15 AM on January 13, 2015


That's a lot of goats.
posted by freakazoid at 11:15 AM on January 13, 2015


Also, anyone know why the Mississippi Delta would be a goatless zone in the middle of so many goats?

Perhaps this answers another question: what were Bobbie Gentry and Billie Joe McAllister throwing off the Tallahatchie Bridge?
posted by Mrs. Pterodactyl at 11:19 AM on January 13, 2015 [6 favorites]


What the hell good is a military drone armada and a horribly intrusive corporate databank of everybody and everything they've ever done and a berserk national intelligence apparatus recording everything if we still have to aggregate the fucking goats into groups of 500?

Goat wiretap 2k15
posted by Snarl Furillo at 11:20 AM on January 13, 2015


The best goat is not in the United States.

It's in Gandhi's roti's on Queen St West in Toronto.

OMG so good. I'm hungry now.
posted by GuyZero at 11:22 AM on January 13, 2015 [4 favorites]


I like that the hovertip on the county map includes an exclamation point no matter how many goats in the county (as long as there's enough to report). "Coconino County 12,264 goats!" "Sheridan County 22 goats!" Equally exciting! And when there are no goats, it's frowny face. "Jackson County No goats here :("
posted by mhum at 11:22 AM on January 13, 2015 [3 favorites]


Needs a goatsucker layer.
posted by benzenedream at 11:26 AM on January 13, 2015


YES their correct and accurate reaction to the presence or absence of goats was also my favourite.
posted by poffin boffin at 11:27 AM on January 13, 2015 [2 favorites]


I would not, could not.
posted by Ratio at 11:27 AM on January 13, 2015 [1 favorite]


Also sometimes the hover gets overexcited and starts flashing between two counties and it's a goatastic party.
posted by poffin boffin at 11:29 AM on January 13, 2015 [1 favorite]


How many goats in Manhattan?
posted by TheLittlePrince at 11:38 AM on January 13, 2015


Also, anyone know why the Mississippi Delta would be a goatless zone in the middle of so many goats?

I'm guessing it's because no one has said, "hey goats, don't go over there, that's a goat-free zone" because as soon as that happens BAM the whole place will be covered in goats.

Fuckin' goats, man.
posted by BitterOldPunk at 11:43 AM on January 13, 2015


This is literally every letter in the English language.




Rounded up to 26.
posted by Nanukthedog at 11:45 AM on January 13, 2015 [3 favorites]


What is Texas doing with all those goats? They are up to something.

Cabrito...
posted by jim in austin at 11:54 AM on January 13, 2015 [1 favorite]


How do you even write an article like this without the phrase "goat check" appearing in it? Disappoint.
posted by Wolfdog at 11:54 AM on January 13, 2015 [1 favorite]


See, and they were told there was nothing to worry about when they found out their iPhone locator data was uploaded to Apple. "Nothing to worry about", they said.
posted by bondcliff at 11:56 AM on January 13, 2015 [1 favorite]


... is there really one giant goat ranch up in our northeast corner?


no, but there is one giant gant roach
posted by ennui.bz at 11:56 AM on January 13, 2015


giant goat ranch

This is going to be the trendy dip at superbowl parties this year. My words. Mark them.
posted by Wolfdog at 11:57 AM on January 13, 2015


Texas is well known across the world as the Goat Belt of the United States. Or as the natives know it, La Correa del Chivos.
posted by byanyothername at 11:58 AM on January 13, 2015


I seem to live in a goat-rich area: East Tennessee. These are my neighborgoats; I pass them every morning while walking my dogs.

For some reason, a lot of people around here keep myotonic (fainting) goats. A customer told me a hilarious story about when he first moved here. He got a job for a building supply company driving a big delivery truck. One morning he drove to a work site to make a delivery and the field was full of goats. He hit the truck's horn and watched in horror as the entire herd of goats keeled over. Then they all got up and ran off as if nothing had happened.
posted by workerant at 11:59 AM on January 13, 2015 [3 favorites]


Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
posted by briank at 12:02 PM on January 13, 2015


First they map all the goats.

Then they come to get your goat!
posted by BlueHorse at 12:02 PM on January 13, 2015 [1 favorite]


What is Texas doing with all those goats?

I am not a tax lawyer but what I heard is that a couple of goats is the cheapest and easiest way to convert your property from residential to agricultural and getting a whopping tax break.
posted by bukvich at 12:06 PM on January 13, 2015


I'm a little uncomfortable with this.
posted by mrgoat at 12:09 PM on January 13, 2015 [5 favorites]


It's all part of the Game of Goats.
posted by homunculus at 12:09 PM on January 13, 2015 [3 favorites]


Is it me or could this use more goats?
posted by Navelgazer at 12:12 PM on January 13, 2015


You keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means...
posted by schmod at 12:13 PM on January 13, 2015


graymouser, I believe that the agricultural census has to take reasonable steps to protect the identity of the respondents. In a county with very few goats it could be easy to identify individuals based on the data reported for that area. The dairy survey conducted by the National Animal Health Monitoring System takes anonymity VERY seriously. Statutory-exception-from-FOIA, non-networked-computers-in-a-highly-secure-facility-level seriously. (Disclaimer: I don't work for that part of USDA, but I have a colleague who does.)

traveler_, that part of the Delta is infested with kudzu, which even goats won't eat, and I have a dim memory (possibly incorrect, I'm getting old...) that there are some issues with endemic parasites. I know that most sheep can't live there because of that.
posted by wintermind at 12:21 PM on January 13, 2015


Meanwhile, the main bureau is trying to understand why all there's been this sudden spike in forms with "Nubian" written in under "race".
posted by Wolfdog at 12:24 PM on January 13, 2015 [3 favorites]


Statutory-exception-from-FOIA, non-networked-computers-in-a-highly-secure-facility-level seriously.

It is good to know that hackers won't be able to steal the top-secret goat census data.
posted by Area Man at 12:27 PM on January 13, 2015 [1 favorite]




Or cow data.
posted by wintermind at 12:29 PM on January 13, 2015


What is Texas doing with all those goats?

And what's with the cluster (easier to see in the county-by-county map) in north-east Arizona -- and the steep drop-off across the state lines to Utah/Colorado/New Mexico? Maybe Arizona has some goat-related subsidy or tax break that its neighbors don't?
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 12:40 PM on January 13, 2015


Figuratively every goat in the United States on a map.
posted by blue_beetle at 12:40 PM on January 13, 2015 [4 favorites]


Garrett County Maryland has 666 goats. It's the horns that give them away.
posted by postel's law at 12:41 PM on January 13, 2015 [2 favorites]


Goats are definitely the most metal of the even-toed ungulates.

I've known goats in Garrett County, Maryland, though. They're pretty chill.
posted by Wolfdog at 12:48 PM on January 13, 2015 [2 favorites]


Guys, this checks out: the people near me with their one goat -- who we call "Goatey" when we yell hello every damn time we drive past -- is on here (northeast Rhode Island).

Goats always looks so skeptical: I think it's their weird horizontal pupils -- like they invented "side-eye," you know?
posted by wenestvedt at 12:55 PM on January 13, 2015 [1 favorite]


It's not just a matter of looks. Goats are skeptical.

"You want me to stand on that bench? Is that a good idea? I'm skeptical." is the sort of thing your average goat (who has spent the entire day up to that point deliberately standing on every elevated surface within its domain) will often say to you - in a more or less reasoned manner, depending on the individual goat.
posted by Wolfdog at 1:17 PM on January 13, 2015 [3 favorites]


Studies have found you are never more than 3 feet from a goat.

Look around. If you don't see a goat then you are the goat.
posted by Panjandrum at 1:22 PM on January 13, 2015 [6 favorites]


like they invented "side-eye," you know?

That's exactly what they want you to believe.
posted by tommasz at 1:24 PM on January 13, 2015


Literally every goat in the United States on a map.

Christ all mighty this is brilliant trolling. Use literally when you are talking about a fucking figure. I am both agitated and amused. Well done. WELL FUCKING DONE. You got my goat there.
posted by srboisvert at 1:33 PM on January 13, 2015 [1 favorite]


Garrett County Maryland has 666 goats. It's the horns that give them away.

Yeah, but the head-to-horn ratio never works out in any sensible way.
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:55 PM on January 13, 2015


I know people who have a pet goat. I'm not sure they even know there's a such thing as an agricultural census.

They're living off the grid. They're living off the goat grid.
posted by JHarris at 2:01 PM on January 13, 2015 [2 favorites]






This seems like a good place to put my textexpander-saved pygmy goat link.
posted by phearlez at 2:30 PM on January 13, 2015


Refering to GuyZero's link, the Android function isUserAGoat() used to just return false. But according to this, it now returns true in one case.
posted by JHarris at 2:36 PM on January 13, 2015 [1 favorite]


Well damn it, we have all these goats in Texas, why is goat cheese still so freaking expensive?
posted by emjaybee at 2:37 PM on January 13, 2015


Goats are definitely the most metal of the even-toed ungulates.

You, sir, have never heard of a guard llama.
posted by dephlogisticated at 2:46 PM on January 13, 2015 [1 favorite]


Is the song called Llama? No, it is Goat. For a reason.
posted by Wolfdog at 3:12 PM on January 13, 2015


Alaska, you're way behind the in the goat race. If you have to go to goat war with any other state, you're screwed.
posted by Joey Michaels at 4:14 PM on January 13, 2015


Nonsense. Our wild goats will kick your domesticated goats' butts. Or butt your goats' domesticated kicks. Or something. Whatever it is it won't be pretty.
posted by Nerd of the North at 4:49 PM on January 13, 2015 [3 favorites]


what's with the cluster in north-east Arizona

Navajo.
posted by Nelson at 6:05 PM on January 13, 2015 [1 favorite]


Things that scream at me #457 - why the goat depleted zone along I-55 through Arkansas and Mississippi?
posted by Kid Charlemagne at 7:00 PM on January 13, 2015


needs more pictures of goats
posted by turbid dahlia at 7:19 PM on January 13, 2015


It certainly turned out to be convenient for the chart makers that goats always come in clusters of 500.
posted by Wolfdog at 3:04 AM on January 14, 2015


My county has nearly two thousand goats. If the goats formed a town, it would be the most populous in the county (but behind the two independent cities). I think this has the makings of some brilliant speculative fiction.
posted by Wolfdog at 3:10 AM on January 14, 2015 [1 favorite]




Given the longevity of the oil on poison ivy - it can still be potent on dead leaves for years - I have to wonder about that goat poop.
posted by phearlez at 6:46 AM on January 14, 2015


Given the longevity of the oil on poison ivy - it can still be potent on dead leaves for years - I have to wonder about that goat poop.

Don't rub it on your skin.
posted by Area Man at 8:34 AM on January 14, 2015 [4 favorites]


I was more thinking that stepping in poop is unpleasant enough without it giving you a 7 day rash.
posted by phearlez at 10:34 AM on January 14, 2015


And what's with the cluster (easier to see in the county-by-county map) in north-east Arizona -- and the steep drop-off across the state lines to Utah/Colorado/New Mexico? Maybe Arizona has some goat-related subsidy or tax break that its neighbors don't?

I think that's the Navajo reservation. But when I google navajo goat I get a bunch of stuff about Navajo and sheep.
posted by madcaptenor at 11:41 AM on January 14, 2015


But when I google navajo goat I get a bunch of stuff about Navajo and sheep.

Man, I miss The X-Files. They would have gotten to the bottom of that.
posted by Wolfdog at 1:32 PM on January 14, 2015 [1 favorite]


Given the longevity of the oil on poison ivy - it can still be potent on dead leaves for years - I have to wonder about that goat poop.

Poison ivy is IIRC only poisonous to humans, so pretty much all herbivores will happily eat it. That's how its seeds are spread.

Maybe just put on some shoes?
posted by Sys Rq at 2:23 PM on January 14, 2015


"Dairy goats that eat poison oak do not transfer detectible amounts of the toxic principle, urushiol, to the milk or to the urine. Furthermore, this oily, toxic irritant is found in goat manure at less than 9% of its concentration in poison oak leaves" [PDF]

(poison oak and poison ivy have the same active ingredient, urushiol)
posted by aubilenon at 2:32 PM on January 14, 2015 [4 favorites]


Thank you, aubilenon. I always knew I liked you better than that SHOEIST Sys Rq.
posted by phearlez at 2:44 PM on January 14, 2015 [1 favorite]


My parents subscribed to the "folklore" mentioned in that PDF, that drinking milk from goats fed on poison ivy would confer immunity or tolerance. So I drank a lot of poison ivy goat milk. According to the article, it probably did nothing for me. I don't recall playing around in goat shit although I was barefoot approximately 100% of the time when I wasn't in school or in town, so I probably trod on some at some point, probably quite heedlessly in between treading on thistles or rusty nails in old lumber. I hope you have enjoyed this edition of goat anecdote theater. Good evening.
posted by Wolfdog at 5:59 PM on January 14, 2015 [2 favorites]


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