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March 10, 2015 11:43 AM   Subscribe

 
They did this already. In 1984, and again in 1989.

Fuck Sony.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 11:49 AM on March 10, 2015 [10 favorites]


Sony will be producing a (new) “all male” Ghostbusters film as a franchise companion to the previously announced, much-discussed “all female” Ghostbusters

What the hell?
posted by cashman at 11:52 AM on March 10, 2015 [2 favorites]


"Big, Familiar" not to mention "tiresome" and "ridiculous".
posted by angeline at 11:52 AM on March 10, 2015 [2 favorites]


Go home Sony, you're drunk.
posted by Foosnark at 11:52 AM on March 10, 2015 [61 favorites]


so is there something wrong with having the Ghostbusters team be, like, a mix of genders, like pretty much every workplace in the real world? They gotta be separated because of the ghostbusting or something?
posted by Hoopo at 11:53 AM on March 10, 2015 [30 favorites]


Sony will be producing an “all male” Ghostbusters film

Does that include the love interest?
posted by Dr-Baa at 11:53 AM on March 10, 2015 [113 favorites]


My eyes slid over this news yesterday, and, in the interest of preventing grand seizures of rage, I decided it was a hoax and moved on. Alas. 'Scuse me while I Stay Puft Marshmallow Man the Sony offices.
posted by missmary6 at 11:54 AM on March 10, 2015 [10 favorites]


Finally, a victory for #slimergate.

Actually, it's about ethics in paranormal containment.
posted by uncleozzy at 11:54 AM on March 10, 2015 [91 favorites]


There has been a lot of jaw-droppingly stupid news coming out of Sony lately, and this might be the jaw-droppingest.
posted by Rock Steady at 11:55 AM on March 10, 2015 [4 favorites]


I was noticing that men at large seemed sad, diminished, powerless, and utterly without role models in light of the movie which would star at least four women. I'm glad someone has rectified this very, very sad situation.
posted by ChuraChura at 11:55 AM on March 10, 2015 [70 favorites]


Fuck Sony.

Possibly we shouldn't be going by Twitter reactions, but it's remarkable the amount of goodwill they just burnt up there.
posted by Artw at 11:56 AM on March 10, 2015 [9 favorites]


so is there something wrong with having the Ghostbusters team be, like, a mix of genders, like pretty much every workplace in the real world? They gotta be separated because of the ghostbusting or something?

The more apposite question is: "Is there something wrong with having the Ghostbusters team be all-female?"

To which the answer is: "No, unless you are a whining spoiled little manbaby. Even then, the answer is still no, because grownups shouldn't listen to whining spoiled little manbabies, because whining spoiled little manbabies are clearly up past their whining spoiled little manbaby bedtimes."
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 11:57 AM on March 10, 2015 [57 favorites]


so is there something wrong with having the Ghostbusters team be, like, a mix of genders, like pretty much every workplace in the real world? They gotta be separated because of the ghostbusting or something?

There would be nothing inherently wrong with this, no. The problem is that they've already started--and loudly hyped--an all-female film. This second project creates what will plainly, obviously become a media narrative and nauseating social discussion of dueling film concepts, because our media and Hollywood always boils everything down to A vs B.

And if you think I'm wrong, ask yourself this: Whose films are better, Marvel's or DC's? Did you like Iron Man better than Thor? And how fucking tired are you of hearing those questions?

This will be more of the same, only worse, because it'll be gendered. And it will inevitably undercut the female-led film.
posted by scaryblackdeath at 11:57 AM on March 10, 2015 [14 favorites]


What?! That's freakin' baffling.
posted by escape from the potato planet at 11:58 AM on March 10, 2015


Wow, I will still in theory watch both if the reviews are good but a move this boneheaded does not suggest to me Sony knows what they are doing here so I'm concerned about the quality we are going to get in either.
posted by Drinky Die at 11:59 AM on March 10, 2015 [1 favorite]


Nah, more like predictable and sad.
posted by angeline at 12:00 PM on March 10, 2015


In which I am not quick enough off the mark. My comment was for escape from the potato planet!
posted by angeline at 12:00 PM on March 10, 2015


Wow, I will still in theory watch both if the reviews are good

I will absolutely not watch the all-male one, period, and will be looking askance at any of my friends who do. This is unmitigated horseshit.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 12:01 PM on March 10, 2015 [14 favorites]


Is it ghostbusters 2 (films)?
posted by tittergrrl at 12:01 PM on March 10, 2015 [17 favorites]


I will be okay with this if they're all sleeping together.
posted by The Whelk at 12:02 PM on March 10, 2015 [11 favorites]


I was going to probably watch the all-female one, not because I have any particular fondness for Ghostbusters but because the cast sounded good, I wanted to support the idea, etc. Now I am not sure I really want to support Sony at all.
posted by jeather at 12:03 PM on March 10, 2015 [11 favorites]


I would watch the hell out of Ghaystbusters.
posted by middleclasstool at 12:03 PM on March 10, 2015 [1 favorite]


I'm holding out for the Old Lady Badass Ghostbusters: Sigourney Weaver, Linda Hamilton, Dame Maggie Smith, and Oprah Winfrey
posted by ericbop at 12:03 PM on March 10, 2015 [89 favorites]


Wow, I will still in theory watch both if the reviews are good

What infuriates me is that Channing and the Russo brothers aren't exactly hurting for representation in Hollywood, let alone hurting for work. Of all the things they could've latched themselves onto, they chose this.
posted by scaryblackdeath at 12:03 PM on March 10, 2015 [10 favorites]


I rarely go to the movies anymore. Here's another reason why.
posted by jeff-o-matic at 12:03 PM on March 10, 2015 [3 favorites]


This seems to be a Ghostbusters announcement coming at least in part from Dan Aykroyd's camp.

And in case you took no heed of the last coupla decades of Ghostbusters 3 development, I will fill you in that up to this point an Aykroyd Ghostbusters announcement is something like a grocery coupon for Jell-O: it's cash value is 1/900th of a cent.

I say it's even money that in six months, this all ends up being a mix of rumors, pipedreams positioned as star attachments, and general time-killing fuckery for a bunch of suits at Sony.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 12:03 PM on March 10, 2015 [19 favorites]


Dan Aykroyd wouldn't lie, not when he holds the crystal skull.
posted by The Whelk at 12:06 PM on March 10, 2015 [12 favorites]


Everyone, I think I got it. The "male" Ghostbusters will take place in the 1950s. They spend most of the movie smoking and drinking cocktails. At the end, they're killed by Gozer.

The "female" Ghostbusters will take place in modern times, in which the ghosts they are busting are the angry and befuddled spirits of the dead male ghostbusters.
posted by Dr-Baa at 12:06 PM on March 10, 2015 [52 favorites]


I say it's even money that in six months, this all ends up being a mix of rumors, pipedreams positioned as star attachments, and general time-killing fuckery for a bunch of suits at Sony.

Right, but they still will have managed to fuck over their other project.
posted by Artw at 12:06 PM on March 10, 2015 [13 favorites]


What infuriates me is that Channing and the Russo brothers aren't exactly hurting for representation in Hollywood, let alone hurting for work. Of all the things they could've latched themselves onto, they chose this.

Make a fucking Black Widow movie! we need one of those.
posted by Artw at 12:07 PM on March 10, 2015 [8 favorites]


Btw, there's been updates to this. The idea is to have two films that would link up, Marvel style within a grouping of four films. Feig's Ghostbusters -> Russo Ghostbusters -> Feig + Russo Ghostbusters --> Prequel. Or prequel before the team-up.
“First of all, this new Ghostbusters movie isn’t all-male. It isn’t ‘guy-centric.’ I spoke to three different people who were baffled as to where that came from. But it does have some guys at the center – the concept here is a movie that spins out of the chemistry between real-life friends Channing Tatum and Chris Pratt (pictured),” explained the site, which also added something extremely important: “This isn’t a case of ‘everybody wants Chris Pratt in their movie,’ this is a case of these two guys being pals and wanting to make this movie together.”

This new Ghostbusters is also supposed to be complementary to the Paul Feig film. It’s Avengers-style, building out a massive new universe that will eventually collide.

“The hope is that after Feig’s Ghostbusters is out and after Tatum’s Ghostbusters is out the next film will see the two teams co-mingling, Avengers-style,” they add. “This is planned out, and has been getting planned out for some time – it’s not a sudden change of heart at Sony.”
posted by tittergrrl at 12:07 PM on March 10, 2015 [6 favorites]


GODDAMMIT MONKEY'S PAW! I MADE ONE WISH! ONE WISH! AND YOU HAVE TO GO AND DO THIS?
posted by robocop is bleeding at 12:08 PM on March 10, 2015 [43 favorites]


This is dumber than a bag of hammers. Now you know why Sony was hacked.
posted by tommasz at 12:08 PM on March 10, 2015 [2 favorites]


Right, but they still will have managed to fuck over their other project.

Yep. Bets that the publicity from this will lead them to shelve the original project?
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 12:08 PM on March 10, 2015


This gets much better: there's not two films, but four (including a prequel), and they all take place in the same universe with crossovers and shit. read it and weep
posted by mrbigmuscles at 12:08 PM on March 10, 2015 [1 favorite]


Why build one when you can build two at twice the price?
posted by books for weapons at 12:09 PM on March 10, 2015 [10 favorites]


Sony Pictures, the hallmark of crappy films.
posted by Catblack at 12:09 PM on March 10, 2015


In defense of the Sony Corporation, an all-female Ghostbusters could probably easily pass the Bechdel test.
posted by a lungful of dragon at 12:09 PM on March 10, 2015 [2 favorites]


"The franchise rights alone will make us rich beyond our wildest dreams."
posted by Ray Walston, Luck Dragon at 12:10 PM on March 10, 2015 [34 favorites]


What infuriates me is that Channing and the Russo brothers aren't exactly hurting for representation in Hollywood, let alone hurting for work. Of all the things they could've latched themselves onto, they chose this.

If you're Channing Tatum and someone offers you the chance to play in Ghostbusters, there is literally no way that you pass on that. Shoot; if you're _____ __________ and someone offers you the chance to play in Ghostbusters... I'm not saying that this isn't discussion-worthy, but let's be reasonable while we're talking.
posted by Poppa Bear at 12:10 PM on March 10, 2015 [6 favorites]


Ray Walston just won the comments today, y'all.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 12:11 PM on March 10, 2015 [2 favorites]


Yeah.... this is all about buuuuuuulllshit franchise IP leveraging buzzword buzzword.

Because what I really need is some GODDAMN GHOSTBUSTERS LORE.

*the red mist descends*
posted by selfnoise at 12:11 PM on March 10, 2015


Right. Not only are they undermining their movie for dumb sexist reasons they're undermining it because of a dumb cash gouging far as well. /
posted by Artw at 12:11 PM on March 10, 2015 [1 favorite]


I really feel like people are Homer Simpson trying to figure out what Gabbo is from a single name. Until you have more information (like watching the movies) you have no idea if either or both projects are good. If the all female one stays true to the universe of the Ghostbusters, but the all male one decides to go "silly" like the 21 Jump Street movie, can you really compare the two? How do you know how either project is being handled? Way too early to begin playing the gender card if you ask me.

I'm just excited something is finally being done with the Ghostbusters stuff, I loved all of it the first time around (movies, cartoons, toys, etc). If one of them ends up sucking, or both of them, at least I'll have something to complain about on the Internet. It's not like I have to fund these things myself.
posted by inthe80s at 12:11 PM on March 10, 2015 [4 favorites]


If Sony want a shared universe thingummy so badly why don't they make a James Bond one about all the different James Bonds on all their different James Bond missions in all the different James Bond eras, culminating in an ultra-Bond team up movie where Timothy Dalton comes back and does his Timothy Dalton beaming smile forever.
posted by dng at 12:12 PM on March 10, 2015 [13 favorites]


The Marvel type idea probably would have been welcome if they had announced it that way to begin with. Now it just looks like they lost faith in the first project and got in a panic.
posted by Drinky Die at 12:12 PM on March 10, 2015 [5 favorites]


The idea is to have two films that would link up, Marvel style

See my first comment. No, really. Because that part of their thinking was plainly obvious from the start. Every studio is fucking desperate to mimic that success. It doesn't make this any less a screwjob for the women-led film.
posted by scaryblackdeath at 12:14 PM on March 10, 2015


Crisis on Infinite Ghostbusters?
posted by blue_beetle at 12:16 PM on March 10, 2015 [10 favorites]


BUGSLEY MALONE GHOSTBUSTERS, EVERYONE IS TEN
posted by The Whelk at 12:16 PM on March 10, 2015 [21 favorites]


Yesterday afternoon, the announcement that Sony will be producing an “all male” Ghostbusters film as a franchise companion to the previously announced, much-discussed “all female” Ghostbusters
While they're at it they might as well try to come up with a few more varieties as well. Make use of those economies of scale. Will Peter Jackson be free soon? I know I've been yearning for an "all Hobbit" Ghostbusters.
posted by octobersurprise at 12:17 PM on March 10, 2015 [2 favorites]


lungful of dragon In defense of the Sony Corporation, an all-female Ghostbusters could probably easily pass the Bechdel test.

But you know it won't, despite how easy it would be to leave out anything that'd cause them to fail Bechdel, they're still gonna fail. That's how movies work today, no matter how much money or interest there is in nonstereotypical dreck they still go with the lowest common denominator.
posted by AzraelBrown at 12:18 PM on March 10, 2015 [4 favorites]


The idea is to have two films that would link up, Marvel style

Ugh, there aren't enough shredders in the world for Bill Murray to throw this into.
posted by Dr-Baa at 12:18 PM on March 10, 2015 [4 favorites]


PLANET OF THE APES GHOSTBUSTERS, EVERYONE IS APE
posted by sobarel at 12:19 PM on March 10, 2015 [15 favorites]



The idea is to have two films that would link up, Marvel style


the two movies exist in separate mono-gendered universes that, due to a incident involving a Gozer artifact at the Met, cross-over, making each transported Ghostbuster the first Man or Woman in the other universe.
posted by The Whelk at 12:20 PM on March 10, 2015 [11 favorites]


It doesn't make this any less a screwjob for the women-led film.

I'm not sure how that follows. It's not like Sony is shelving Feig's Ghostbusters film or pushing it back because they are worried. It is still starting shooting in a couple months, and still being released in July 2016. The Russo Bros one can't even shoot until summer 2016 so it won't be out until summer 2017 at the very earliest.

They aren't competing in any way. No one who is the (very large) prime audience for this film is going to ignore one Ghostbusters film to wait a year for another one due to gender. It just isn't gonna happen.

If they stated "we will have the men go first" or "let's push back the female ghostbusters to be closer to the men" I think there'd be more credence to your worry, but it just isn't the case. At least it isn't yet.

I just want a good Ghostbusters film, regardless of who is in it.
posted by tittergrrl at 12:21 PM on March 10, 2015 [6 favorites]


It is still starting shooting in a couple months, and still being released in July 2016.

Scheduled, in both cases. Ain't nothing actually happening until it's actually happened.

More likely scenario: SO MUCH CONTROVERSY, says Sony, WE MUST SHELVE THIS PROJECT. And then they weld the scripts together... and make an all-male Ghostbusters (because Chris Pratt and Channing Tatum are much more solid box office winners) with a token female character.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 12:23 PM on March 10, 2015 [1 favorite]


Unfortunately, the set "whining little man babies" and the set "people who pay to see lucrative comic book superhero movies multiple times" overlap just enough to ensure that studios will defer to members of Set #1.
posted by jonp72 at 12:23 PM on March 10, 2015 [4 favorites]


Also in production: 'The Sleepover' - Samantha Bee and Jamie Lynn Spears are ordered to assassinate Kim Kardashian
posted by East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94 at 12:26 PM on March 10, 2015 [2 favorites]


What other film rights does Sony own that they could link these movies up with, Marvel style? I mean go big or go home.
posted by The Whelk at 12:27 PM on March 10, 2015


I haven't really cared about the Ghostbusters ever since I realized that Ray Parker Jr.'s use of double negative in the theme song ("I ain't afraid of no ghost!") means that he is, in fact, afraid of a ghost.
posted by Atom Eyes at 12:27 PM on March 10, 2015 [18 favorites]


Here's the thing about the Marvel movies and the Avengers: the MCU was a means for them to happen, and then after they happened they were successful. The MCU was a tool to allow that success, not the cause of it.

And of course ever since the wrong lessons have been drawn.
posted by Artw at 12:28 PM on March 10, 2015 [4 favorites]


Perhaps a "no ghost" is a specific type of ghost, such as a ghoul or a devil or a mallowmonster.
posted by dng at 12:28 PM on March 10, 2015 [5 favorites]


I haven't really cared about the Ghostbusters ever since I realized that Ray Parker Jr.'s use of double negative in the theme song ("I ain't afraid of no ghost!") means that he is, in fact, afraid of a ghost.

Well duh, that's why ya gonna call Ghostbusters
posted by Dr-Baa at 12:28 PM on March 10, 2015 [8 favorites]


“First of all, this new Ghostbusters movie isn’t all-male. It isn’t ‘guy-centric.’”

Really? Because there's NOT ONE WOMAN listed on either cast or production sides in the Deadline article. NOT A SINGLE ONE.

(Amy Pascal is mentioned later in the article, but is attached to the Feig movie.)

I suspect there's going to be a lot of "OK FINE hey look HERE'S A TOKEN WOMAN" backpedalling.
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 12:29 PM on March 10, 2015 [9 favorites]


I haven't really cared about the Ghostbusters ever since I realized that Ray Parker Jr.'s use of double negative in the theme song ("I ain't afraid of no ghost!") means that he is, in fact, afraid of a ghost.

No it means he is not afraid of the absence of a ghost; we don't have enough information to determine if he is afraid of ghosts
posted by East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94 at 12:29 PM on March 10, 2015 [51 favorites]


It's actually Noh ghost.
posted by skymt at 12:31 PM on March 10, 2015 [16 favorites]


he is not afraid of the absence of a ghost

It's a tribute to his songsmanship that such an unremarkable fact could lead to such a catchy tune.
posted by sobarel at 12:32 PM on March 10, 2015 [22 favorites]




WHAT
THE
FUCK
SONY?
posted by Deoridhe at 12:32 PM on March 10, 2015 [1 favorite]


I was kind of yawnsville about the idea of a Ghostbusters remake until I heard Melissa McCarthy and Leslie Jones were starring.

Now there is yet again a Ghostbusters remake for me to be yawnsville about.
posted by Zed at 12:33 PM on March 10, 2015 [2 favorites]


FLAMES! On the side of my head! Heaving! Breathless! Heaving breaths!
posted by Deoridhe at 12:33 PM on March 10, 2015 [5 favorites]


One Ray Parker Jr. always lies, the other always tells the truth.

They both have their own movie.
posted by The Whelk at 12:33 PM on March 10, 2015 [16 favorites]


Scary

Ye gods. I should call someone to deal with this! Can't think who, though.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 12:34 PM on March 10, 2015 [2 favorites]


Scary

See also Spirited Away.
posted by Artw at 12:34 PM on March 10, 2015 [1 favorite]


Guys, guys, just wait... pretty soon Sony is going to announce a third Ghostbusters remake with an all genderqueer, non-binary team... right?
posted by overglow at 12:34 PM on March 10, 2015 [13 favorites]


It's actually Noh ghost.

A Butoh ghost would be scarier but it wouldn't scan.
posted by octobersurprise at 12:35 PM on March 10, 2015 [2 favorites]


I was kind of yawnsville about the idea of a Ghostbusters remake until I heard Melissa McCarthy and Leslie Jones were starring.

They found an actual reason for a dumb remake! And then they threw it the fuck away.
posted by Artw at 12:36 PM on March 10, 2015


Is there nothing Sony can't do wrong?
posted by jamjam at 12:36 PM on March 10, 2015 [2 favorites]


A Butoh ghost would be scarier but it wouldn't scan.

Does too! "I ain't afraid Butoh ghost!"

(ok maybe the emPHAsis might be on the wrong sylLABle)
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 12:38 PM on March 10, 2015


tittergrrl: "If they stated "we will have the men go first" or "let's push back the female ghostbusters to be closer to the men" I think there'd be more credence to your worry, but it just isn't the case. At least it isn't yet. "

The thing is, the first movie now has to compete not with an actual movie (that might be good, might suck), but it has to compete with the idea of a movie that stars two of the biggest movie stars in the world. That is some bullshit, Ghostbusters Cinematic Universe or no.
posted by Rock Steady at 12:39 PM on March 10, 2015 [5 favorites]


(Amy Pascal is mentioned later in the article, but is attached to the Feig movie.)

No, they also talk about her being part of the planning process of Ghostcorps first, which this is part of. After she stepped down/was fired by Sony for the leaked emails found in the Sony hack, she created her new production company, which will be producing the new all-female Ghostbusters film. There's no reason to think she still wouldn't be working on Ghostcorps if the hack didn't happen. Maybe not, but we'll never know.
posted by tittergrrl at 12:40 PM on March 10, 2015


So they just announced a new Ghostbusters movie starring Channing Tatum and Chris Pratt... and people here are upset about it? I was excited about the Paul Feig Ghostbusters movie, which will still be a thing. Now we'll get that and also a male Ghostbusters movie. That's a good thing. I'm sure both movies will be seen by people of both sexes (I'll probably see both if the reviews are good.)

Paul Feig thought it would be interesting to do an all-female Ghostbusters movie with some of his usual collaborators. Now someone else thought it would be interesting to do a Ghostbusters movie with Channing Tatum and Chris Pratt. And then at some point they'll team up. Is that... bad somehow?
posted by Green Winnebago at 12:41 PM on March 10, 2015 [1 favorite]


What I'd like to know - will we ever be able to have a Ghostbusters film with two black Ghostbusters? (Or, for that matter, Ghostbusters played by other actors of color?

That is what seems so freaky-deaky to me in all this. Even when I was nine and saw the first movie, it struck me as sort of weird that good old Winston Zeddemore didn't seem to have as much schtick or as much to do as the other three.

It's not that there's a good "reason" to cast mostly/exclusively white actors, but in this type of movie it seems especially silly that we have to stick to the "three white people, one black person" thing from the eighties. The plot is basically "ridiculous people - some smart and competent, some less smart and competent - bust ghosts and hijinks ensue". It's not exactly like you're debating who to cast for a movie about the household of Thomas Cromwell or something.
posted by Frowner at 12:42 PM on March 10, 2015 [13 favorites]


Paul Feig thought it would be interesting to do an all-female Ghostbusters movie with some of his usual collaborators. Now someone else thought it would be interesting to do a Ghostbusters movie with Channing Tatum and Chris Pratt. And then at some point they'll team up. Is that... bad somehow?

Well, yes? For the reasons outlined in the linked article? We've just gone from A Ghostbusters movie whose all female cast is an interesting and progressive spin on an old idea to them being the Lady Busters, an also-ran secondary team.
posted by Artw at 12:45 PM on March 10, 2015 [31 favorites]


No it means he is not afraid of the absence of a ghost; we don't have enough information to determine if he is afraid of ghosts

OK, I'm convinced. Now explain how the Ghostbusters can be simultaneously too hot to handle and too cold to hold.
posted by Atom Eyes at 12:46 PM on March 10, 2015 [15 favorites]


temperature gradient
posted by East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94 at 12:48 PM on March 10, 2015 [7 favorites]


Atom Eyes: "OK, I'm convinced. Now explain how the Ghostbusters can be simultaneously too hot to handle and too cold to hold."

GhostDLT
posted by Rock Steady at 12:49 PM on March 10, 2015 [8 favorites]


The thing is, the first movie now has to compete not with an actual movie (that might be good, might suck), but it has to compete with the idea of a movie that stars two of the biggest movie stars in the world.

This is the thing though, isn't that also just denigrating the accomplishments and Box Office potential of Melissa McCarthy and Kristen Wiig? Melissa McCarthy's box office average ($80,916,326) is about 20 million higher than Channing Tatum's ($65,943,676), and Kristen Wiig's are almost identical to Tatum's ($64,355,038). McCarthy also outdraws Chris Pratt. Pratt and Tatum may have had a lot of success lately, but McCarthy, Wiig and Feig are HUGE names in their own right. And this is all forgetting that Tatum right now is just producing from what I understand, and while he may act in it.. no one knows if he is.

We're not talking about unknown ingenues here in the female-led GB. We are talking about proven, bankable, and extremely talented and known STARS. And frankly it's somewhat insulting that people don't think of them as such, even on here.
posted by tittergrrl at 12:51 PM on March 10, 2015 [19 favorites]


So they just announced a new Ghostbusters movie starring Channing Tatum and Chris Pratt... and people here are upset about it?

I am only upset about this if they don't make out
posted by en forme de poire at 12:51 PM on March 10, 2015 [13 favorites]


The films will be based on a twelve-volume series of novels to be written by George R.R. Martin.
posted by jeff-o-matic at 12:51 PM on March 10, 2015 [7 favorites]



I am only upset about this if they don't make out


Channing Tatum writhing on a bed in a skimpy red outfit and the only way to correctly bust ghosts is with SHIRTLESS DANCING
posted by The Whelk at 12:53 PM on March 10, 2015 [4 favorites]


GRAAR.
posted by djeo at 12:54 PM on March 10, 2015


BEETLEJUICE GHOSTBUSTERS, EVERYONE IS RECENTLY DECEASED
posted by Appropriate Username at 12:57 PM on March 10, 2015 [8 favorites]


The films will be based on a twelve-volume series of novels to be written by George R.R. Martin.

I may actually have more faith in his ability to do that than the idea that Dan fucking Aykroyd's production company could produce even a minute of some future Ghostbusters movie.
posted by Copronymus at 12:57 PM on March 10, 2015 [1 favorite]


Has there actually been a confirmation that the second film, with Tatum, is male-only? I mean, yes, that's how everyone has reacted, but when I go back to the articles that actually cover the announcement (rather than coverage of the coverage of the announcement), they just mention the (all male) writing, directing, and producing team. There's mention of Tatum being attached, and rumours dating back to the Sony email hack of Pratt being courted for it, but I haven't seen anything from Sony definitely saying it's male only.

Any actual confirmation made?
posted by GhostintheMachine at 12:58 PM on March 10, 2015


Now we'll get that and also a male Ghostbusters movie. That's a good thing. I'm sure both movies will be seen by people of both sexes (I'll probably see both if the reviews are good.)

In the world that lots of people (predominantly but not exclusively straight white men) imagine we inhabit, this wouldn't be a particularly bad thing. If the world weren't gendered, and patriarchal and misogynistic, through and through, it would be pretty much fine to have both. If we'd overcome millennia of the exploitation and mistreatment of women in the scant decades since universal suffrage then, yeah, OK, you can make both and no one will moan to much.

But in that world there would be (fucking will be if we don't wipe ourselves out first) an already existing range of cool, nerdy, funny adventure films starring women. There would already be a woman led Ghostbusters franchise, or something similar, and we wouldn't have had to celebrate as something unusual the idea of casting women in those roles.

But we don't live in that world. We don't live in a world of equal opportunity. We live in a world that is brutally gendered even down to the level of what we're told is acceptable to imagine ourselves to be. And so the actual Ghostbusters being actually women was cool and exciting. And this took a massive shit all over it.
posted by howfar at 12:59 PM on March 10, 2015 [30 favorites]


EVERYONE IS RECENTLY DECEASED

Really. Ghostbusters, huh? Why is it always the ghosts who need to be "busted." When do the ghosts get their opportunity to do a little humanbusting?
posted by octobersurprise at 1:01 PM on March 10, 2015 [2 favorites]


And frankly it's somewhat insulting that people don't think of them as such, even on here.

But that's the problem. McCarthy/Wiig/etc are not ever marketed as huge movie stars. They're "female comedians" (comediennes?). Or they're in a movie that's "buddy cop but with girls". Everything they do is compared to their male counterparts with the "but with ladies" description. With a female ghostbusters team, we had the hope that it could stand as THE Ghostbusters reboot. But now you announce the Tatum/Pratt movie, and we've got two movies: Ghostbusters, and Ghostbusters But With Ladies. They deserve better than that.

Also, let's not joke around about Chris Pratt being a smaller name in Hollywood. Dude was the star of a Marvel movie, is the upcoming star of the next film in a hugely popular Spielberg film, and is being looked at to star in a reboot as one of the most famous/iconic action heroes in history.
posted by specialagentwebb at 1:02 PM on March 10, 2015 [26 favorites]


(Kristen Wiig overdub) There is no Channing, only Zuul
posted by en forme de poire at 1:06 PM on March 10, 2015 [3 favorites]


OK, I love Ghostbusters as much as the next guy, but Peter Venkman is not one of the most famous/iconic action heroes in history.
posted by Rock Steady at 1:06 PM on March 10, 2015 [4 favorites]


Channing Tatum and Kristen Wiig must swap real life identities for the next ten years. All roles awarded to the old Channing will be played by the new. The new Kristen will be expected to be at the SNL 45 Reunion in the role of Target Lady.

So mote it be.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:12 PM on March 10, 2015 [5 favorites]


Really. Ghostbusters, huh? Why is it always the ghosts who need to be "busted." When do the ghosts get their opportunity to do a little humanbusting?

Got ya covered! The Real Ghostbusters - Episode 402: "Flip Side"
posted by Servo5678 at 1:13 PM on March 10, 2015 [7 favorites]


If we're going to put Pratt in everything why not include his wife Amy Faris in literally anything.
posted by The Whelk at 1:14 PM on March 10, 2015 [2 favorites]


Sony announces "Ghostbusters Freestyle" - 100+ actors and plot lines to choose from to create your very own reboot.
posted by crepesofwrath at 1:15 PM on March 10, 2015 [4 favorites]


Sony. If we can fuck up Spiderman, we can fuck up anything.
posted by doctor_negative at 1:16 PM on March 10, 2015 [10 favorites]


To me this just seems like protection against the female ghostbusters being simply awful or not funny. Not that the boy version is going to be awesome either. I predict they'll both suck. This whole story is beyond absurd.
posted by ReeMonster at 1:16 PM on March 10, 2015 [1 favorite]


What's sad is that this won't become "male Ghostbusters" versus "female Ghostbusters." It will become "female Ghostbusters" versus "regular Ghostbusters."

The cast they'd already announced, while it was indeed all women, was an entirely valid, perfectly logical cast for a comedy regardless of gender, and what this does is underscore that there's still plain old ordinary default Ghostbusters where of course it's all run by men both onscreen and off, and Feig's version -- to be written by the super-great Katie Dippold -- is a gimmick to them, like Crystal Pepsi.

This has the potential to be much worse than if they'd simply admitted from the beginning that they were too greedy and too afraid not to take the money that angry people who can't stand change were eager to give them and just made the Channing Tatum one to begin with.
posted by Linda_Holmes at 1:16 PM on March 10, 2015 [37 favorites]


I will say this is quite the boo-haha.
posted by tittergrrl at 1:17 PM on March 10, 2015 [4 favorites]


If you're Channing Tatum and someone offers you the chance to play in Ghostbusters, there is literally no way that you pass on that. Shoot; if you're _____ __________ and someone offers you the chance to play in Ghostbusters... I'm not saying that this isn't discussion-worthy, but let's be reasonable while we're talking.

So.. when someone asks you if you're a god, you say "YES"?
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:24 PM on March 10, 2015 [2 favorites]


SCARFACE GHOSTBUSTERS, EVERYONE IS ON MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF COCAINE
posted by delfin at 1:25 PM on March 10, 2015


GHOSTBUSTERS MEET THE HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS
GHOSTBUSTERS OF THE CARIBBEAN
GHOSTBUSTERS ON ICE
GHOSTBUSTERS AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY
GHOSTBUSTERS TOO: 2 MANY GHOSTBUSTERS
posted by Servo5678 at 1:27 PM on March 10, 2015 [11 favorites]


GHOSTBUSTERS : DEEP SPACE NINE
posted by The Whelk at 1:31 PM on March 10, 2015 [5 favorites]


MUPPET GHOSTBUSTERS, GHOSTBUSTER BABIES
posted by jeff-o-matic at 1:33 PM on March 10, 2015 [4 favorites]


I stumbled onto a story about this on the Onion AV club yesterday and it left me scratching my head. It was clearly some kind of subtle satire--much more subtle than most Onion fare. But then, I thought, the AV Club is generally pretty straight-faced. I shrugged and left without finishing it.

Turns out the AV Club was not trolling me. Sony is?
posted by General Tonic at 1:33 PM on March 10, 2015 [1 favorite]


Duh, it has "bust" in the name, so there has to be an entire 90-minute vehicle dedicated to making boob jokes.

*shakes head* It's like everyone has forgotten to underestimate Hollywood, and then underestimate that, before trying to identify motivations (besides MONEYmoneyMONEY).
posted by wenestvedt at 1:34 PM on March 10, 2015


I guess I could be okay with Brobusters as long as Sony pays Pratt and Tatum the same amount as McCarthy and Wiig.
posted by peripathetic at 1:38 PM on March 10, 2015 [2 favorites]


So if Sony's planning an Avengers-style crossover, does that mean they'll be busting Ghost Rider?
posted by Petersondub at 1:41 PM on March 10, 2015


I understand that there are valid reasons to find the announced man-tastic GB film problematic (women are still underrepresented in media, the PratTatum version might overshadow Ladybusters (henceforth referred to as LB.)

If they had cancelled the Ladybusters film to make the PratTatum version, I would be pissed. But they're not doing that. Instead, they're still making the female Ghostbusters movie, and also making another one with Channie Taytay and Burt Macklin. The movies will probably come out at least a year apart, so I'm not sure how much Ladybusters will be overshadowed. I also can't read the minds of Sony marketing execs... It could have been made for crass reasons (we don't want boys to stop liking Ghostbusters, and we need to maximize our revenue potential) or for less crass reasons (we have a good director and two talented A-list actors who are interested in making a Ghostbusters movie, and we still need to maximize our revenue potential.) It's also very possible that a potential cross-over movie would sideline the ladybusters... but that's a hypothetical movie that is at best in the early planning stages, so nobody really knows. Maybe we could err on the side of presuming good faith?
posted by Green Winnebago at 1:41 PM on March 10, 2015 [1 favorite]


So they just announced a new Ghostbusters movie starring Channing Tatum and Chris Pratt... and people here are upset about it?

I'm not upset about it, I'm BORED by it. So totally bored.

If you're going to reboot or remake or whatever a classic movie, at least do something new with it. Having an all-female cast has the potential for a fresh take, funny set-ups I haven't seen yet, a new dynamic. But Ghostbusters: Dude Edition with Channing Tatum and Chris Pratt? Welcome to Yawntown, population us. I bet I could write down the plot and half the jokes right now before even a scene has been shot. Hell, I bet half the jokes were already in 21 Jump Street.
posted by jess at 1:45 PM on March 10, 2015 [16 favorites]


I think I'll just ignore both of them. Yeah, that feels right.
posted by Splunge at 1:47 PM on March 10, 2015 [1 favorite]


It isn’t ‘guy-centric.’ I spoke to three different people who were baffled as to where that came from. But it does have some guys at the center

...

It isn’t ‘guy-centric.’ ... But it does have some guys at the center

...?

It isn’t ‘guy-centric.’ ... But it does have some guys at the center

... wat?
posted by yeolcoatl at 1:48 PM on March 10, 2015 [9 favorites]


Maybe we could err on the side of presuming good faith?

Decades of sexism at just about every level and facet of Hollywood hasn't earned them or Sony "good faith." The cynicism around this move, however, has been earned many times over.
posted by zombieflanders at 1:49 PM on March 10, 2015 [18 favorites]


Now I wish that they'd first announced an all-male Ghostbusters reboot, have the screenwriters do their thing, and then do ye olde Alien switcharoo and changed the genders of the characters. I mean, I wouldn't mind at all watching an all-female original Ghostbusters with all the scenes and dialogue the same as it was, only with women.
posted by Pyrogenesis at 1:52 PM on March 10, 2015 [1 favorite]


A Gatekeeper movie needs a Keymaster "companion movie" likes a fish needs a bicycle.
posted by argonauta at 1:52 PM on March 10, 2015 [4 favorites]


It just feels like the Ladybusters movie is being used as promotional material for the Boybusters movie. Sort of like the Cowboys vs Aliens thing - dude shops CvA script, nobody buys, dude turns script into comic, floods stores with super cheap copies of comic, says "Look! I happen to have a script based on this best selling comic!", gets to make movie - except in this version it's "create hype and attention for IP via daring casting" instead of "make a comic book."
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:53 PM on March 10, 2015 [4 favorites]


OK, I love Ghostbusters as much as the next guy, but Peter Venkman is not one of the most famous/iconic action heroes in history.

Venkman might not agree with you on that point.
posted by popcassady at 1:53 PM on March 10, 2015


I'm holding out for the Old Lady Badass Ghostbusters: Sigourney Weaver, Linda Hamilton, Dame Maggie Smith, and Oprah Winfrey Helen Mirren or Pam Grier and I'm sold.
posted by romakimmy at 1:56 PM on March 10, 2015 [6 favorites]


I was a huge Ghostbusters fan as a kid. I even signed my papers as Egon in Kindergarten because I thought he was worth emulating.

I thought Feig's reboot of Ghostbusters sounded interesting because it was different than most reboots. It seemed fresh and not just a tired rehash that's just a grab for money.

This new version with Tatum and Pratt? It sounds like every other kind of reboot. Of course, I'm totally not the target audience since I'm not really into all these new comic book movies that try to tread a line of clever and grossly commercial, but just the phrase "expanded universe" makes me cringe. It's going to be like every other movie franchise that continues to tread familiar ground, and shucks, it has lead actors people like. So I guess I feel like the author of the piece and others. The women Ghostbusters are totally othered now.
posted by kendrak at 2:10 PM on March 10, 2015 [1 favorite]


(I totally dig the concept, but man, it stopped me in my tracks to see Sigourney Weaver listed as an "Old Lady." I just checked, and yep, looks like she's 65 and that probably does qualify, but it still kinda blows my mind. I must just have '80s-version Sigourney etched in my mind forever... and I'm apparently incapable of believing that's not recent.)
posted by argonauta at 2:13 PM on March 10, 2015 [4 favorites]


Yeah, please please please can we have Old Lady Badass Ghostbusters? Please? I don't even watch movies much but that sounds like just about the Best Thing Ever (although come to think of it, it would also be possible to screw it up into Worst Ever and cause loads of people to stroke right out).
posted by dilettante at 2:15 PM on March 10, 2015 [1 favorite]


GHOSTBUSTERS TOO: 2 MANY GHOSTBUSTERS

And Iiiiiii / will fight /
the ghostbusterrrrrrrs /
so that iiiiIIIIIIII / will be the only /
Ghost Busterrrrrrrrrrr
posted by Potomac Avenue at 2:20 PM on March 10, 2015 [10 favorites]


This has come up before, but it's worth repeating: why reboot Ghostbusters at all when making new films? Just set them 30 years later in the same universe! That way there's no need to spend a film rehashing the creation of ghostbusting tech and we can get right to the fun stuff of exploring new characters. These new characters open a Ghostbusters franchise in their city, Ray Stantz shows up on the equipment training videos to satisfy fan needs for a cameo from the old crew, and then we're off and running. And then the next film is another franchise with other new characters in some other city. And so on for as many films as there are talented people and good ideas to use.

Eventually everyone comes together in a big Avengers-type crossover to save the day from a really big supernatural menace that has slowly been building throughout the other films. Hell, maybe that's when we see Ray and Winston Zeddemore suiting up to join the fight, too, after years behind desks at Ghostbusters International. I'd see those movies. Respect the lore!
posted by Servo5678 at 2:23 PM on March 10, 2015 [14 favorites]


I feel like everyone else has already done a good job of outlining what this issues are with an all male ghostbusters vs. all female ghostbusters team, but… is Channing Tatum even funny? I’m not exactly a Channing Tatum connoisseur, but he doesn’t strike me as a great comic actor.
posted by dinty_moore at 2:26 PM on March 10, 2015


Channing Tatum is like.. Jessica Alba for those of us who prefer men. Doesn't have to act or be comedic, just has to be there.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 2:28 PM on March 10, 2015 [7 favorites]


Tatum's whole Schlick is that he doesn't look like he'd have a sense of humor or great comic timing but he DOES and plays "basically a twelve year old in a hot body" really well. seriously the looks he pulls when trying to be sauve in 22 Jump Street are amazing.

Which is why pairing him with Pratt is odd? Cause they have the same comic timber? Pratt can be slightly more serious but he's in the same tone and wheelhouse there.
posted by The Whelk at 2:32 PM on March 10, 2015 [4 favorites]


I'll admit, since it's in keeping with the thread's theme, that although I'd heard the name I wasn't sure until I just googled whether Channing Tatum was a man or a woman.

I have even further to go to achieve Channing Tatum connoisseurship than dinty_moore I guess.
posted by sobarel at 2:45 PM on March 10, 2015




Ladybusters (henceforth referred to as LB.

No!
Sorry, No.

The McCarthy/Whig etc film came first. IT gets to be called Ghostbusters.
The recently announced one is the one that gets the silly name. DudeBusters is fine, BroBusters, whatever.
posted by Just this guy, y'know at 3:03 PM on March 10, 2015 [23 favorites]


(Sorry Green Winnebago, I don't mean to highlight your comment in particular)
posted by Just this guy, y'know at 3:04 PM on March 10, 2015


Jason, Freddy and Chucky: They've stopped killing people, and are now after something WORSE than themselves! They're the...GHOSTBUSTERS OF TERROR!
posted by Smart Dalek at 3:07 PM on March 10, 2015


I didn't care for 21 Jump Street, but 22 Jump Street was one of the funniest movies I've seen in a while, and Channing Tatum was hilarious in it. He's great as a clueless straight man, and he has brilliant comedic timing. Also, Manbusters is allegedly going to be directed by the same person who made The Winter Soldier, which is one of the better blockbuster movies in recent memory...

We live in a world that is brutally gendered even down to the level of what we're told is acceptable to imagine ourselves to be. And so the actual Ghostbusters being actually women was cool and exciting. And this took a massive shit all over it.

I can see this being a logical response if, say, they announced that Channing Tatum and co would be starring in the Feig movie, and the female stars would be sidelines. That's not happening. Feig is still making his movie, and it's almost certainly going to be a heavily-marketed, high-grossing movie.


Sony is making a female-starring Ghostbusters movie, because there were talented people who wanted to make it, and Ghostbusters is a popular, established name. They're also making a Channing Tatum and Chris Pratt Ghostbusters movie, because there are talented people who were interested in making it, and of course a studio like Sony isn't going to pass up a chance to milk one of the bigger franchises out there.

So they're making a Ghostbusters movie with a female cast. That's great! They're also making BroBusters (henceforth referred to as BB.) From a cautiously optimistic fanboy's perspective, that's great! (Unless it's bad, in which case I'll try to resist the urge to see it based off of name recognition alone.) And from someone who thinks that we should have more racial and gender equality in media, the whole thing is... at least okay. From a gender equality perspective, having a mostly female Ghostbusters movie, then a mostly male one, isn't a step forward and a step back, it's and maybe like a quarter of a step back. That's still like 3/4ths of a step forward! Assuming Sony doesn't do something embarrassing and actually call the first movie Ladybusters.

Also, given the pedigree of the actors and directors, I imagine both movies will have very different takes on the material, aside from the male/female thing. Feig's version will probably be a straight comedy, which Brobusters will probably do more of an action/comedy thing.

Hollywood still has a long way to go, but things are getting better. The Hunger Games are some of the bigger movies of the last decade, and they've been embraced by both sexes (hell, my 66-year old, ultraconservative dad is, adorably, a huge fan of the Hunger Games movies, after watching the first movie on Netflix.)
posted by Green Winnebago at 3:18 PM on March 10, 2015 [3 favorites]


ADAM SANDLER GHOSTBUSTERS ALL GHOSTBUSTERS ARE PLAYED BY ADAM SANDLER AND SO IS THE GOZER OR WHATEVER
posted by um at 3:20 PM on March 10, 2015 [8 favorites]


I'm ... not looking forward to the new context of "He slimed me."
posted by Joe in Australia at 3:22 PM on March 10, 2015


Hollywood still has a long way to go, but things are getting better.

Have you ever seen Coma (1978)?
posted by cashman at 3:25 PM on March 10, 2015


And on the note of "reboots suck"
new Star Trek: utterly forgettable, but very enjoyable popcorn movies
Dark Knight trilogy: too self-serious, but the first two were very good in their own right
2000s Godzilla: no no oh god why
2014 Godzilla: way better than it had any right to be
2010s Spider Man and Man of Steel: Terrible from everything I've heard, but I have no desire to ever watch them
more or less everything else: absolute shit

now if they ever reboot The Hunger Games with a male lead, I will officiously be pissed

And an all-Sandlers Ghostbusters could be either the best or worst thing ever
no wait it would definitely be the worst
posted by Green Winnebago at 3:29 PM on March 10, 2015


I will absolutely not watch the all-male one, period, and will be looking askance at any of my friends who do. This is unmitigated horseshit.

You mean the one created by the guys who created the original film? I'm not saying it'll be great (1984 was a long time ago, and Blues Brothers 2000 was pretty damn grim) but it's really not fair to "look askance" at people for wanting to see a sequel/reboot/whatever made by the same guys who made the original.

Paul Feig earned his place in heaven with Freaks and Geeks, but between a Ghostbusters reboot and a Peanuts CGI movie he's rapidly approaching maximum hackdom. Come to think of it, he did Unaccompanied Minors too. (I'm starting to wonder how the hell Freaks and Geeks happened.)
posted by Ursula Hitler at 3:42 PM on March 10, 2015 [2 favorites]


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posted by mazola at 3:46 PM on March 10, 2015 [5 favorites]


Way to retroactively justify every single shithead on Twitter who was sneering about how casting four female leads in a blockbuster movie was just a stunt. Thanks for that, Sony. Thanks a lot.
posted by kagredon at 4:18 PM on March 10, 2015 [10 favorites]


It's an odd move that suggests some sort of infighting behind the scenes at the studio. I really doubt that both movies will be released, because it would be a huge monetary gamble. Will audiences care enough about Ghostbusters to see two films in a row? The concept might have enough interest in it to support a movie or three (separated by breaks) with the same characters in each, but this isn't the Marvel Universe with dozens of characters that can all support their own films.

The Feig movie seemed like cheap exploitation to me (It's your familiar Ghostbusters, but with a twist!) so I wouldn't mind if it was changed in pre-production into a more original idea. You could keep the concept of a group of women dealing with troublesome ghosts but ditch the jumpsuits and proton packs and the requirement for each character to be a copy of the original cast and really go somewhere interesting. There's plenty of stories that could be told within the simple framework of four female comedians dealing with the paranormal.

As for the other film, we'll see. There's a lot of talent behind it, but the idea of making a "Ghostbusters universe" is kind of silly. Right now there's one great movie and one sort of okay movie. Build on what you have - just continue the story with a new generation, new franchise operation, or whatever. Focus on making one good new movie right now, so people might actually want to see a sequel. Don't plan your sequels before there's any interest in them. And cast both women and men in it, just like the two original films.
posted by Kevin Street at 6:21 PM on March 10, 2015


Maybe we could err on the side of presuming good faith?

Everything about Hollywood big-budget filmmaking makes me presume the opposite. The benefit of the doubt has to be earned, and it can be lost.
posted by Linda_Holmes at 6:26 PM on March 10, 2015 [8 favorites]


A few more iterations of white guy outrage will take us to an all-white-male Ghostbusters movie, with a ghost blowjob somewhere in every scene.
posted by ignignokt at 7:55 PM on March 10, 2015 [2 favorites]


So... The original Ghostbusters was the male version, right? I just...
posted by krinklyfig at 8:58 PM on March 10, 2015


I'd be happy if they just made a good version of Ghostbusters.
posted by mazola at 9:20 PM on March 10, 2015




The idea is to have two films that would link up, Marvel style

Ugh, there aren't enough shredders in the world for Bill Murray to throw this into.
--Dr-Baa

Sony once considered aggressive legal action against Bill Murray when he refused to talk with them about making another Ghostbusters.
posted by eye of newt at 11:16 PM on March 10, 2015


it's really not fair to "look askance" at people for wanting to see a sequel/reboot/whatever made by the same guys who made the original

Maybe. Except for the context around the whole thing, which looks like pretty egregious submission to whiny manbabies who are whining manbabily about women taking the Sacred Roles.
posted by feckless fecal fear mongering at 3:23 AM on March 11, 2015 [2 favorites]


Or, the project that the original film's creators have been trying to get off the ground for a few decades is finally happening. It's really not fair to reduce this to Awesome Female Empowerment Movie vs. Whiny Manbabies. If somebody is into the original Ghostbusters, they're not automatically anti-feminist if they're much more excited about Dan Aykroyd's vision for the franchise than Paul Feig's. (And that is basically what some folks in this thread, including yourself, appear to be claiming.)

Basically the studio really needed to get their shit together, before they started announcing stuff. Now if Aykroyd's version happens people will be calling it the "all male" Ghostbusters, like it's weird and wrong that the freakin' Ghostbusters are dudes, like they were in the original freakin' film. If they'd gone with Aykroyd's version or Feig's version, they could have avoided this crap. But Feig is a big deal right now and Aykroyd has faded a lot but his original version of Ghostbusters sure as hell hasn't, and I guess everybody smelled too much money and you ended up with this big, weird mess.

As soon as Bill Murray made it clear he was out, they lost me. (I also would've accepted a Real Ghostbusters movie, a new adventure done 1986-style with the original voice cast minus the sadly-departed Lorenzo Music. I have a feeling it would've been at least as good as anything Aykroyd or Feig are gonna do with this.)
posted by Ursula Hitler at 5:18 AM on March 11, 2015 [1 favorite]


OLGB: Pam Grier, Angela Bassett, Helen Mirren, Sigourney Weaver.
posted by glasseyes at 7:53 AM on March 11, 2015 [1 favorite]


What does OLGB mean? Google says Online Game Boy. That doesn't seem to fit. I searched through many pages of garbage, and finally found the suggestion of Older Lesbian Gay Bisexual. Is that what you mean? Are you suggesting they make a Ghostbusters movie with actors rumored to be lesbians or a movie portraying older lesbian Ghostbusters?
posted by eye of newt at 9:15 AM on March 11, 2015


Older Lady GhostBusters
posted by dinty_moore at 9:21 AM on March 11, 2015


no, let's make it older lesbian ghostbusters. W/, idk, Vivica A Fox as the Dana/Zuul role
posted by kagredon at 10:33 AM on March 11, 2015


OLGB: Ellen DeGeneres, RuPaul Charles, Alan Cumming

I would watch them bust ghosts
posted by a lungful of dragon at 10:35 AM on March 11, 2015 [1 favorite]


how did you forget to put Ian McKellen in OLGB
he is clearly the Egon
posted by Rock Steady at 11:55 AM on March 11, 2015 [1 favorite]




So reading that article Artw just posted, indeed, the all-male one is the ghostbusters sequel, and the one initially announced as the sequel is just a joke, a trick, a publicity stunt. Jesus.
posted by cashman at 10:01 AM on March 16, 2015 [3 favorites]


There might be political reasons they've got to pretend dragging around the dead wreckage of previous franchise reboots is a good thing, but yeah, it doesn't sound great.
posted by Artw at 11:28 AM on March 16, 2015


Russo Brothers to direct infinity war.
posted by Artw at 2:12 PM on March 23, 2015


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