When you play the World Cup, you win....or you go home.
June 20, 2015 7:16 AM   Subscribe

16 teams remain in the FIFA 2015 Women's World Cup as we enter the knockout stages. Let's review the 16 survivors, how they got there, and how far they might go.

But first...a nod to those who have gone.

#17 Thailand
#18 Costa Rica
#19 New Zealand
#20 Spain
#21 Nigeria
#22 Mexico
#23 Ivory Coast
#24 Ecuador

And now. The 16 who remain. In bracket order. My predictions will stop at the semi-finals.


1) China (Group A runner up)

How they got here: Defense against Canada, a surprising blitz against the Netherlands, and then, well, two frank gifts from the ref against New Zealand.

Issues: Historically, China has never beaten an opponent from CONCACAF, and they almost certainly have to do that to reach the Semifinals.

How far will they go: They play the lowest ranked team left in the tournament (you'll meet them next). Then they play the 2nd highest ranked team in the tournament.

Prediction: Out in Quarterfinals.

2) Cameroon (Group C runner-up)

How they got here: Beat the (bleep) out of Ecuador, then beat Switzerland, job done. Then almost drew Japan. Hey! Only the 2nd African team to qualify, first African team to qualify on more than 50% points.

Issues: No consistency. One minute, they're brilliant. Next minute, they're playing like five year olds. Against teams like Germany and the US, that will get punished fast.

How far will they go: They're still the lowest ranked team in the 16. They could beat China. They won't beat the US. I don't think they'll beat China.

Prediction: Out in Round of 16.

3) United States (Won Group A)

How they got here: Beat Australia, Tied Sweden, Beat Nigeria. But that simplifies a story that should have been that simple. The USWNT is normally a very simple thing -- a blistering attack that scores goal after goal, but is a little shaky on defense. This year's model had a very shaky midfield, an offense that never really got going in two games, and a rock solid defense.

Issues: The US midfield, right now, is a gaping hole, saved only by the brilliant back four and the best goaltender in the game. A lot of the offensive woes can also be linked to the poor midfield play. Where are the US midfielders? Alas, most of the best are at home!

How far will they go: Unlike the Group Stage, where they played in the hardest group by far, the USA gets a cakewalk to the semifinal.

Prediction: Semifinalist+

4) Columbia (Third place in Group F)

How they got here: Beat France, the Group F seed and ranked third in the world, 2-0. That means "not a pushover." Tied Mexico. Lost to England.

Issues: Discipline. One, they get chippy, and two, that has cost them badly, they play without their starting goalkeeper, suspended for the USA match.

Prediction: out in the Round of 16.

5) Germany (Won Group B)

How they got there: Beating the (bleep) out of the Ivory Coast, tying Norway, beating Thailand. And, it's Germany. They do this. Ranked #1 in the world.

Issues: Arguably, Norway found that you can attack them deep, and the team who loves the fast deep attack is the US. While Germany is good at Goalkeepers, it is really their weakest spot - but note, in this case, that means a B- grade. Germany is a really solid team.

Finally, though, where the US had the hard fight in the group stage, Germany has the harder fight in the knockouts. It is possible that Germany will have to Sweden (#5), France (#3), the US (#2) to reach the Final. Germany is probably the favorite to win the cup -- but they're going to have to prove they've earned it.

Prediction: Semifinal+. If you have to pick one team to win it all, pick Germany.

6) Sweden (Group D third place)

How they got here: By the skin of their bright nordic teeth! Ranked fifth in the world, controversially not seeded, and then, by luck of the draw, dropped into the same group as the US to create the Group of Death, they promptly came to Canada and tied Nigeria? Tying the US wasn't shameful at all, but then tying Australia put them in a very bad place, and it wasn't until the end of the very last match that Sweden was assured that they'd made it in.

Issues: HELLO SWEDEN WHERE ARE YOU? DID YOU GET OFF THE PLANE? Maybe they were taken over by pod people.

How far will they go: Depends. The real Swedish Team could beat Germany. The Pod People? Not a hope with Hel.

Prediction: Real Sweden? Maybe Semifinal+. Pod People? Out in Round of 16.

7. France (Won Group F)

How they got here: Beat England, lost to Columbia WAIT WHAT? Hold on, I'll be back, I need coffee, I must have misread that. (back). No, seriously, it was helped by a couple of bad calls, but Columbia played marvelously and it was the upset of the tournament. France bounced back by beating the (bleep) out of Mexico and making sure England couldn't catch them on goal differential. Ranked #3 in the world.

Issues: That Columbia loss. France was on a real tear, including having beaten Germany in a friendly, and looked unbeatable. That game shook them. Otherwise, they're solid, and a real contender to win.

Prediction: Semifinal plus.

8. South Korea (Group E Runner Up)

How they got here: Lost to Brazil, tied Costa Rica, sent in a cross to Spain, then the Spanish Goalkeeper misread the cross and it went in. Three points, advance.

Issues: Very little experience. Very short goalkeeper, and height is a real factor in the sport in general and goalkeeping in particular -- Sweden, Germany and the US are know for both good goaltenders and tall women and this is *not* unrelated.

How far will they go: How far is the airport? Columbia upset the Blues. South Korea won't.

Prediction: Out in the round of 16.

9. Brazil (Won group E)

How did they win: Easily. Scored goals. Didn't concede any. THE ARISTOCRATS. Of course, this was the easiest group in the world for Brazil. They have the best player in the world -- Marta. Imagine combining a superb striker, a superb winger, and a superb attacking midfielder. That's Marta. The USWNT two worst defeats happened because Marta decided to power up.

Issues: Untested, really, this World Cup. Discipline can be an issue for Brazil as well, get them chippy and they can card themselves into trouble, though the women's side is not nearly as bad about this as the men's side is -- see Neymar just getting himself tossed out of the Copa América, which pretty much ends Brazil's chances there.

How far will they go: On one hand, Marta. On the other hand, Japan. On the gripping hand, that's it -- if they can beat Japan, the next hardest team between them and the semifinals is Canada.

Prediction: Semifinals+ (but I could be wrong, because Japan.)


10. Australia (2nd in Group D)

How they got here: Lost to the US, Beat Nigeria, Tied Sweden. Well, they seemed to think they beat the US. Plucky little bastards, aren't they?

Issues. Not a lot of experience in the game. Very young. About to be fed to Marta. I'll be honest, they played well, and as a big USWNT supporter, I loved that whole "They ain't very good" they wrote after getting beaten 3-1. Good on ya, mates. scoreboard. I suspect in a few years, the Aussies are going to become a force in the game. But this is not that year.

Prediction: Out in the round of 16.

11. Japan (Won Group C, defending Champions)

How they got here: Quietly. No muss, no fuss, won three games, and unlike the other two teams in the group, when it came to Ecuador, they scored one goal and parked the bus. They didn't need to rack up a dozen goals. They could have, but they didn't, because that is not their way.

Issues: Not tested at all in the group stages, so we don't know if they have any real issues or not. But they are a very very good team, and they are very resilient.

How far will they go: Depends. Can they handle Marta? In their championship run, they never faced her -- but they took down Germany. This time, the only way to the cup is through Brazil.

Prediction: Semifinal+ (but I could be wrong, because Brazil. One of the two...)

12. The Netherlands (Group A third place)

How they got there: Barely. Beat New Zealand, Lost to China, Tied Canada. Also benefited from the poorly called New Zealand/China match.

Issues: Scored two goals. TWO. That normally gets you nowhere fast. And it'll get them nowhere faster, doubly so when you get to play Japan in your first match!

How far will they go. About 90 minutes, give or take.

Prediction: Out in the round of 16.

13. Norway (Group B runner up)

How they got here: Don't let that runner up fool you. Norway is a quality team, the runner up comes from being in the same group as Germany, and the reason Germany didn't win three games is Norway. Beat Thailand, Tied Germany, Beat Ivory Coast.

Issues: Not many. And, if you wanted to pull for a sleeper team, here's a really good one. Tested once and found to hold with that tie against Germany, and in a bracket position to make a good run.

How far will they go: Given what they face (you'll see in a moment) I have to go long with them. I honestly think they're not going to fall until they face one of the giants -- and maybe not even then. So, even though they're ranked #11th, and they'll face a higher ranked team, I'm going...

Prediction: Semifinal+ (!)

14. England (Group E runner up)

How they got here: Lost to France (shame!) Beat Mexico, beat Columbia. The England FA has made a large investment in improving the women's game, and...it appears to be working. Compared to four years ago, this is a much better team.

Issues: England plays a reactive game. Norway likes that. I don't think they can beat them. If they do beat them, I think that England can become the sleeper that I'm predicting Norway to be. Midfield is weak, goalkeeping is a little weak, offense is better than you think they are.

How far will they go: I just don't think they have the one extra step they need to beat Norway. This is a plucky team that has improved immensley, and while I would love for them to win and make a deep run, I just don't think they will. So, alas, with a deep sigh, I must say...

Prediction: Out in the round of 16. (sniff)

15. Canada (Won Group A)

How they got there: Unimpressively. Good: Won the group. Bad: WITH TWO GOALS. Sneaking in as a third place team with two goals? Fine. WINNING THE GROUP? Yeah, that's not a good sign. Worse, one of them was a penalty. So, Canada may have the politest offense, but that's a really bad thing. They've only given up one goal, so either they have a good defense, or they were in a weak group. Maybe both?

Issues: Offense offense, where art thou? We don't know how good the defense is, because, well, I smell a weak group. Christine Sinclair, normally one of the best strikers in the world, has looked distinctly off this cup -- and she normally plays on turf, it's not that.

How far will they go: I'm thinking not very. They have a sweet setup -- they won't have travel, they don't have to face any giants until the semi finals, you'd think they'd be on a run. But I don't think it matters, because the sleepers I've talked about are going to use them to level up so they can take a chance at the giants. Hell, I'd give you even money that Switzerland could take them out, but lordy, FIFA would HATE that, seeing all that sweet ticket money disappearing with the host nation. I think they can make it one step. I don't think two.

Prediction: Quarterfinals. If they're lucky.

16. Switzerland (Group C third place)

How they got here: Beat the (bleep) out of Ecuador, lost to Japan, lost to Cameroon. Beating the (bleep) out of Ecuador gave them the goal differential to get in.

Issues: We thought the Swiss would be much better, but while they've been shooting like mad, they haven't been getting shots on target -- less than 40% on frame. Worse, the attack-happy shot-happy method leave them wide open to the counter, and good teams will happily take them up on that. It's okay to give up four goals if you score eight -- but not when you score 8 in one game and give up four in the other two.

How far will they go: While I'm down on Canada, if Switzerland keeps on their merry "run towards the box and FIRE" ways, Canada is well versed at the North American "We Punish Turnovers" counterattack. Unless they're putting those balls on frame, it's going to be a long day for the Swiss. If they are putting them on frame, it might be an interesting game. Something tells me, though, there will be one more good day for Canada, and thus...

Prediction: Out in the Round of 16.

Games in the Round of 16 start today!
posted by eriko (843 comments total) 43 users marked this as a favorite
 
Superb post—I'll be referring to it a lot in coming days!

The USWNT is normally a very simple thing -- a blistering attack that scores goal after goal, but is a little shaky on defense.

And where the hell is that blistering attack? I've liked the way they've been playing in general, but if they don't start scoring more goals they're not going very far.
posted by languagehat at 7:39 AM on June 20, 2015 [1 favorite]


Today's matches.

Times are in US Central Daylight Time, which is A) the central time zone of the five times zone these matches are being played in and B) the time zone of yr. humble correspondent, so I'm used to the conversions and less likely to screw them up. Note I said less likely.

I have found a source for broadcast in the US/UK, so I'll append that. Hope it's correct! (FOX=Fox Main Network, FS= Fox Sports, FSX=Fox Sports 1, 2, etc. BBCX=BBC1,2,3, BRB=BBC Red Button)

Saturday, 20 June:

Germany vs. Sweden, 1500 CDT, Lansdowne Stadium, Ottawa (US: FS1, UK:BBC3)

China vs. Cameroon, 1830 CDT, Commonwealth Stadium, Edmonton (US: FS1, UK: BRB)

In the future, I know that two of the quarter finals, one of the semi finals, the third place game, and the final will be on Fox, which is the over-the-air broadcast network in the US. But most of the games in the US will be FS1 or FS2, which are mostly cable.

In the UK, all the games are also available online. Other nations availability varies.

If you live in a US city with a large hispanic population, see if Telemundo is available on your TV. They have the games as well, and while you may not be able to understand the commentators if you don't understand Spanish, they are a lot of fun to listen to. (Alas, Chicago, Univision doesn't have them...which is sad, they had great coverage of the World Cup, but they lost the contract to Telemundo, which we don't get over the air. Sniff)
posted by eriko at 7:41 AM on June 20, 2015


I've not seen all the games, but am enjoying the ones I've seen. Definite midfield weakness in the U.S.A. team. Too conservative perhaps? Wambach looks off the pace, but is an excellent holder of the ball and at laying it off. When they play to that strength, they can look good. Playing balls for her to run on to...not so much.

England were a bit lucky against Colombia, who have some extremely talented individual players. Given the US's form, I wouldn't be surprised if Colombia beat them. The last half an hour was the England defense hoofing it away, and the offense giving it away. I do like Kirby though. She seems like a very intelligent player most of the time and works hard.

Japan are so good on the ball. They are often a real pleasure to watch.
posted by idb at 8:15 AM on June 20, 2015


A lot of blame for the uninspiring offense has rightly been placed on the midfield, particularly on the 442 lineup and the insistence of serving long balls in to well defended strikers. It's pretty clear that the US can no longer dominate with sheer physicality alone; the rest of the world is catching up quickly, and we will need a more sophisticated tactical approach. It will start with finding the right combination of players who can create sustained possession in the final third.

Also I think the turf has a lot to do with it as well.

That said, the defense is playing at a championship level, which gives some margin for error and will keep them in any game.
posted by mbd1mbd1 at 8:24 AM on June 20, 2015


I hope that Canada is just having start-of-the-tournament nerves and will start scoring more goals soon. Their most fun player to watch has been Buchanan.
posted by beau jackson at 9:24 AM on June 20, 2015


[Heya, I know the framing of the post is unusual but in the combined spirits of World Cupliness and Saturday I'm gonna just say lets run with it.]
posted by cortex at 9:34 AM on June 20, 2015 [14 favorites]


US: Abby Wambach is getting older and slower and mostly scores with her head. She was worried about injury so elected to play ZERO National Women's Soccer League games, so she's lacking in match fitness.

Alex Morgan didn't play any games for about 50 days before the tournament opened because she was recovering from injury.

Megan Rapinoe looks fantastic, she is all over the field - and she's a midfielder so I can't say all the trouble is coming from there at all.

Sydney Leroux (the girl who abandoned Canada to play for the US) opens a lot of space with her runs, but her shot's been off. She's more of a chaos-causer than a goalscorer, but it can work both ways for us.

It's hard to blame the turf when literally everyone is playing on it, don't you think?
posted by taterpie at 10:07 AM on June 20, 2015


Are any of the teams going to be affected by the long cross-country flight times, or are the games planned out so that won't be a problem? I see that Germany and Sweden are playing a 4 or 5 hour flight (plus time wasted in the airport) away from Edmonton.
posted by clawsoon at 10:17 AM on June 20, 2015


Thanks for the roundup, eriko.

I'm not sold on the idea that it's the midfield mucking things up for the US. They have a solid amount of possession and are working well with the back line in building plays. (The defense, as mentioned, has been quite good all around.) Rapinoe has had really good play and is pushing forward to pull out the goals our forwards can't seem to find. I think the midfield has been picking up a lot of slack. Leroux is pushing forward all right, and she's had several close chances. I'm looking forward to her first goal in the tournament. But the dynamic duo we've come to expect from Morgan and Wambach is gone, baby, gone. Injuries and lack of team practice show, for those two. I was hopeful when Morgan started in the last game, but surprised to watch her run around with seemingly little direction. It was kind of manic. Took her twenty minutes to settle down, but still never saw much from her. I'm hoping Wambach's late header instills some confidence and drive in her, because she's looked rusty. It would be great to see those two step it up and get in sync again. Indeed, I think it will be an essential part of us getting past the semifinals. I'm just not sure it'll happen.

My non-US thoughts: holy crap, the English team must have learned how (and how often) to dive from the EPL (oh, lordy, I loved watching them lose to France); Germany...stop being so beautiful to watch (no, don't) and same for Japan; Norway's a great sleeper team. If they weren't playing the US so soon, my underdog rooting would go to Cameroon for two brilliant games in a row fought with nothing but crazy amounts of confidence and bulldozing (hey, it could happen). However, I think China might play too technical to let that happen. We'll see; I love watching the young teams, knowing there's women's football culture still growing in those countries
posted by weeyin at 10:28 AM on June 20, 2015 [2 favorites]


It's hard to blame the turf when literally everyone is playing on it, don't you think?

It favors younger, healthier teams.

I'm pleased to see that the NYT is doing their Spot the Ball thing for the WWC as well. (h/t nevercalm's deleted FPP)
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 10:40 AM on June 20, 2015 [1 favorite]


As to the artificial turf, it is instructive to look at who the USWNT players play for when they're not playing for the USWNT, and look at where they play. Six of the nine fields are artificial turf. One is actually AstroTurf.

The biggest issue with turf, and it is a real issue, is that in direct sunlight, it can get *very* hot very quickly, which makes it rather grabby and if there isn't a breeze makes it very hot period. There is a fix, but it's very very very expensive. Just like grass fields can have piping installed underneath to allow you to warm them to keep them from freezing, you can installing piping underneath artificial turf to cool them, but it's a massively expensive retrofit -- even more expensive that piping a grass field, because you're digging out concrete rather than dirt.

The biggest mistake on artificial turf is wearing the wrong cleats. Long cleats for grass are a mistake on turf. You want firm ground cleats with short cleats. The wrong cleats mean you're bottoming out, so you're running on concrete -- which means you're getting hurt.
posted by eriko at 10:49 AM on June 20, 2015


After o saw Japan play a couple times, I picked them to win. Regardless, I believe that we will win!
posted by persona au gratin at 11:11 AM on June 20, 2015


South Korea (Group E Runner Up)

Issues: Very little experience. Very short goalkeeper, and height is a real factor in the sport in general and goalkeeping in particular -- Sweden, Germany and the US are know for both good goaltenders and tall women and this is *not* unrelated.


Very interesting! Also completely baseless. Based on who played in the last group matches:

Kim Jung-Mi (Korea) = 5' 10"
Hedvig Lindahl (Sweden) = 5' 10"
Nadine Angerer (Germany) = 5' 9"
Hope Solo (USA) = 5' 9"
Wang Fei (China) = 5' 10"
Miho Fukumoto (Japan) = 5' 5"

Source (Other countries are selectable using dropdown menu.)

Kim is not great and has often looked a liability, but it's not because of her height. Funny you highlight her shortness when she's a full 5" taller than Fukumoto.
posted by shortfuse at 11:37 AM on June 20, 2015 [1 favorite]


> I'm pleased to see that the NYT is doing their Spot the Ball thing for the WWC as well.

Thanks for that, it was fun! (I only beat 64.52% of other players overall, but 99.05% in the US-Nigeria one.)
posted by languagehat at 11:38 AM on June 20, 2015


> Kim is not great and has often looked a liability, but it's not because of her height. Funny you highlight her shortness when she's a full 5" taller than Fukumoto.
posted by shortfuse


Eponysterical!

posted by languagehat at 11:39 AM on June 20, 2015 [2 favorites]


Funny you highlight her shortness when she's a full 5" taller than Fukumoto.

Umm, because my notes had her at 1.6m, which is 5' 3". Wiki has her at 1.78m, which, yeah, puts here right in the pack.

What we call this is, well, wrong. I'd love to say that was the first time I was wrong, but then I'd be wrong twice here! Thanks for catching that. Apologies. If I'd had a chance to see Japan play this year I might have spotted it, but I didn't.
posted by eriko at 11:56 AM on June 20, 2015 [4 favorites]


And here we go. My heart says Sweden, my brain says "are you nuts? Germany, dude."
posted by eriko at 1:01 PM on June 20, 2015


And my brain adds "seriously, dude, they almost scored in fifteen seconds. Not a hope in hell for Sweden here." Shut up brain. Shut up..
posted by eriko at 1:02 PM on June 20, 2015


How they got there: Unimpressively. Good: Won the group. Bad: WITH TWO GOALS. Sneaking in as a third place team with two goals? Fine. WINNING THE GROUP?

I'm not sure this makes sense to me. As you say it might mean a weak group, but it might also mean a group made up of teams with more defensive qualities. it's not better to finish third than first in the group - you can only play the team in front of you!
posted by biffa at 1:22 PM on June 20, 2015


I actually got to one of the opening round games!! I saw Canada vs Netherlands in Montreal. Tons of fun!!

My incredibly neophyte analysis: Canada has a weak midfield and that is really hurting their ability both to create good scoring chances and to prevent penetration into their zone. Their defense is quite solid and can turn away a lot attacks, but if an opponent gets organized midfield, they can swamp Canada.

As for Sinclair...yeah, she really looks like she's lost more than a step. In the game I attended, they kept trying to create chances for her in set pieces, but she couldn't get to the ball. In open play, she almost seemed like a non-factor.
posted by dry white toast at 1:26 PM on June 20, 2015


That was a soft penalty. Wow.
posted by eriko at 1:37 PM on June 20, 2015


I have seen on Twitter that Alexei Lalas predicted a win for Sweden. Well, that'll end well.
posted by eriko at 1:40 PM on June 20, 2015


I don't even know if I can watch this game because all i can think of is murdering that one guy with the fucking horn
posted by poffin boffin at 1:44 PM on June 20, 2015


"My eyes have seen the glory of the crushing of the horn"

Almost makes you miss trumpet guy. At least he could play actual notes.
posted by eriko at 1:47 PM on June 20, 2015


I love Pia but the Swedish team needs years of reworking to get to Germany's standard.
posted by taterpie at 1:47 PM on June 20, 2015


If Sweden could finish, they'd be tied. They've skied a number of shots.
posted by eriko at 1:50 PM on June 20, 2015


And...the actual Swedish team showed up. Unfortunately, at the 80th minute and only for about 5 minutes. So, yeah, that ended poorly for Sweden.
posted by eriko at 2:54 PM on June 20, 2015


I am a quiet fan of the U.S. team, so I will cheer for them quietly:

usa. usa. usa.
posted by kyrademon at 3:06 PM on June 20, 2015 [4 favorites]


And what we have here is a failure to validate.
posted by eriko at 3:17 PM on June 20, 2015


God, this game has the dulcet tones of the vuvuzela.
posted by eriko at 4:45 PM on June 20, 2015


Really pacey China v. Cameroon game. Lots of aerial acrobatics. Fuuun.

Die, vuvuzelas, die.
posted by weeyin at 5:56 PM on June 20, 2015


Well, in the Controversy Files -- and what World Cup doesn't end up with a large file cabinet full of these?

1) Twice, the sent-off coach of China talks to somebody next to him, who madly texts someone. The trainer on the bench gets a text. Immediately, China sends in a sub. If this is really a connection, this is in fact a major breach of the rules.

2) Do you even concussion protocol, bro? I mean, you wrapped her head up with pretty much every bandage you had, but yeah, the four second between finishing that and sending her back in was plenty of time to check her mental state, right?

But, we're down to fourteen. A convincing win, of course, by Germany, and a tight 1-0 win by China. Sweden and Cameroon head home.

Three games tomorrow.
posted by eriko at 6:29 PM on June 20, 2015


Source tweet on texting accusation, btw. Just realized I'd meant to put that in and already hit post.
posted by eriko at 6:31 PM on June 20, 2015


I guess what with the coach's repeated shenanigans and their elimination of some charming underdog teams, China are shaping up to be this year's designated villains. Every good World Cup needs one of those.
posted by Kattullus at 3:56 AM on June 21, 2015


Day two of the knockouts. We're down to 14.

The reason these games aren't on Fox, and therefore, broadcast TV, is they are apparently showing the US Open Golf tournament in a post-apocalyptic hell. Take a gander between games.

Speaking of games, we have some! We have three. It's a magic number. Yes it is.

Brazil vs. Australia, Noon CDT, Moncton Stadium, Moncton

France vs. South Korea, 15:00 CDT, Olympic Stadium, Montreal

Canada vs. Switzerland, 18:30 CDT, BC Place, Vancouver

Oddball note: Say goodbye to Moncton, this will be our last game played here.

You may have noticed the intervals between games are longer -- this is because the games can run longer, since they'll play an extra 30 minutes if they're tied after 90, then go to kicks from the penalty spot if they're still tied. So, they want at least three hours between them.

Three seeded teams today. Naturally, they put Canada as the late game, because ratings! Ticket sales! Money!

As to our two advancing teams: Germany moves from Ottawa to Montreal for the Quarter Finals on the 26th, a short trip, might even be a bus ride (~100mi/160km depending on exactly where in the two cities you're going.) Heck, I'd certainly do it on a bus, unless there was a decent train. Just dealing with the airports would take longer. China moves from Edmonton to Ottawa for the Quarter Finals on the same date, that's quite the haul (~3400km/2112 miles*) We don't know who they will play yet, and we won't officially know until later today for Germany and tomorrow for Friday.

So. See you at noon, CDT, for the first kickoff.

* I kid you not. OF COURSE IT WOULD BE. CANADA!
posted by eriko at 7:22 AM on June 21, 2015


Was in a bar in Kansas during the 2011 USA vs Japan final, when I almost got into my first sports fight. I was sitting at a table and there was a black man at the bar, watching the game. Coming from a well mixed family, I was super stoked that both teams in the final were two of "my" teams. The other guy was clearly team USA. When the USA scored its first goal, the man at the bar shouted "Yeah, Pearl Harbor, bitches!"

Now, theres a clash of unexpected here. I'm sure he didn't expect to find a Japan fan in Kansas. I usually only watch domestic soorts. I'm sure he didn't expect anyone to be offended. I'd never heard anyone say something that overtly racist and misogynistic in a "friendly" context. I was pretty much shocked into insensibility, so not thinking straight, I did the only thing I could think of. When Japan scored their first goal, I took a deep breath, shouted "Woo! Nagasaki, motherfucker!"

I'd never shouted anything offensive in a sports match before, and I probably never will again. Lacking experience, my voice cracked partway through. And then there was silence. He definitely heard me. The guy at the bar, who I remember as being much taller than me, looked just as shocked as I did when he first shouted. He started to stand up, but the bartender took his arm, gave a little headshake, and that was the end of that.

We both watched the game in silence from then on, and left quietly when it was over. although I don't know what would have happened if the USA won that game. That would have been really embarrasing. I'd like to think that that day, we both learned not to shout horribly offensive things in sports bars again.

So that's why I think I'll stick with the classic "Nihon Ganbare!" this year.
posted by yeolcoatl at 8:46 AM on June 21, 2015 [5 favorites]


but lordy, FIFA would HATE that, seeing all that sweet ticket money disappearing with the host nation.

Are you suggesting that Canadian fans are so impolite as to fail to sell out the games if our team loses?
posted by clawsoon at 8:50 AM on June 21, 2015


i want those drummers to find the horn guy and SET HIM STRAIGHT on how to behave at a football game
posted by poffin boffin at 10:07 AM on June 21, 2015 [1 favorite]


I wonder if Australia's crosses are being messed up because they're on the wrong side of the planet and the Coriolis Force is turning them the wrong way?
posted by eriko at 10:40 AM on June 21, 2015 [3 favorites]


Apparently, the concussion protocol has changed to "Why do you think it's called the knockout round?"
posted by eriko at 11:22 AM on June 21, 2015


i am uPSET
posted by poffin boffin at 11:48 AM on June 21, 2015


Peep peep PEEP! Guess that Group of Death was tougher than it looked!
posted by eriko at 11:48 AM on June 21, 2015


I honestly don't know which team is more surprised by this one, but... BRA 0-1 AUS. Did not expect that one, but the Aussies hung tough and made that one big break count. Brazil couldn't get the Timbit in the basket, and becomes the first group seed and first group winner to fall. (Well, there's only been one other group seed/winner to play so far, but it sounds dramatic, right?)

And I'm happy to report that despite the fact that I understand about 20 words of Spanish, Telemundo's commentators are *vastly* better than Fox's.
posted by eriko at 11:57 AM on June 21, 2015 [2 favorites]


WELP
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 1:13 PM on June 21, 2015


They look like South Korea, but they're playing like Ecuador. Maybe it's like a weird remake of Freaky Friday.
posted by eriko at 1:15 PM on June 21, 2015


What, an actual concussion check? What madness is this?
posted by eriko at 1:18 PM on June 21, 2015


Was at the stadium for the S. Korea vs Spain game and that was some intense stuff. It was awesome.
posted by aclevername at 2:01 PM on June 21, 2015


Surprised the Korean keeper is still in. She got rocked pretty hard.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 2:07 PM on June 21, 2015


Well, unlike the last game, this game went pretty much as expected. FRA 3-0 KOR. Hard day at the office for the South Korean goalkeeper.
posted by eriko at 2:55 PM on June 21, 2015 [1 favorite]


Wow these BOOOOOOOOOOO Canadians really BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO are polite!
posted by eriko at 4:56 PM on June 21, 2015


What were they booing?
posted by clawsoon at 5:47 PM on June 21, 2015


A perceived handball and something else which I forget. What everyone forgets is not all hands touching a ball are handballs, though, lordy, we've hand enough of them missed this tournament.

They didn't replay it, though, so I can't tell you if it was a real handball, a ball-to-hand, not a handball, or just practice booing.
posted by eriko at 5:52 PM on June 21, 2015


That BOOOOO was at the ref.
posted by eriko at 6:03 PM on June 21, 2015


yay!
posted by poffin boffin at 6:24 PM on June 21, 2015


And there we are. CAN 1-0 SWI, to a record crowd in Canada.
posted by eriko at 6:25 PM on June 21, 2015


And then there were 11.

France will take a "long" trip from Montreal to Montréal, and they will play Germany in their quarterfinal match, the first of the titan matches. That, so far, is the only quarterfinal match that we have both sides for. That match happens on the 26th.

Canada will also stay in place, in Vancouver, they play on the 27th.

Australia, as a 2nd place team in their group, gets on a plane and goes to Edmonton, they also play on the 27th.

In the Round of 16 matches, we have five done, but three remain. Two more tomorrow, one Tuesday. See you then.
posted by eriko at 6:33 PM on June 21, 2015


Good morning!

Two, two, two more matches today! Two more quarterfinals to fill!

But first, a belated farewell to Winnipeg, which I'd missed that we'd finished with in the group stages! Goodbye Winnipeg, amazingly flat city of the west!

Broadcast note: I found out that Sirius XM has the audio broadcast of all the games. Check the website for the exact channel, live games are always like that, they'll use news channels on weekends and a bank of empty channels as well so there's no discernible pattern. Don't try to sync them to a Spanish language TV broadcast, they're like two minutes behind. Trust me on that. :-)

If anybody is from another country besides US/UK and wants me to include that in the broadcast note parenthetical, let me know.

Anyway, today we have:


Norway vs. England, 16:00 CDT, Lansdowne Stadium, Ottawa (US=FS1, UK=BBC3)

United States vs. Colombia, 19:00 CDT, Commonwealth Stadium, Edmonton (US=FS1, UK=BBC2)


Norway vs. England is, technically, the other match of the non-seeds, but they're both very good teams, closely matched, and with the Australian upset of Brazil, playing on the side of a bracket down to only two strong teams (Japan and Canada.) This is the side a sleeper could well run to the final on, and if any team is going to be that sleeper, it's one of these two. Honestly, in terms of best game to watch, once again, I think the non-USWNT match is going to be that game. Thankfully, this isn't the group stages, we can watch both.

The USWNT? What can we say that hasn't already been said. Well, we can put some numbers behind it, like this article does. Colombia is still feeling good about the French upset, they feel if they can beat France, they can beat anybody, and who knows? We've already had one upset so far, and oh, the wailing and gnashing of teeth that will happen in US Soccer if the US go out in the Round Of 16.
posted by eriko at 5:29 AM on June 22, 2015 [2 favorites]


Also, with Marta out and Birgit Prinz not playing, Abby Wambach has a real chance of becoming the all time leading WWC goal scorer. She's on 14, Marta has 15. Both have 1 so far this tournament.

They almost exactly mirror. 3 in 2003, Marta had 7 in 2007 over Wambach's 6, and both had 4 in 2011. Amazing given the very different styles they play, Marta is a (depending on what football tradition you grew up in) playmaking forward or second striker (and almost plays as a #10/attacking mid) and Wambach is a pure center forward.
posted by eriko at 7:14 AM on June 22, 2015 [1 favorite]


To tide you over until the games this evening:
World Cup of Arm-Folding
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 9:33 AM on June 22, 2015 [3 favorites]


Rapinoe for President.
posted by GrapeApiary at 11:42 AM on June 22, 2015 [1 favorite]


V. excited for the games today. Would love to see Norway battle through England to the next round (what? I'm down on England??? Meh, blame Mr. Weeyin, the Scotsman). And, of course, USA! USA! which I'm hoping will have bounced into form after Wambach's header. I'd like to say they shouldn't have a problem with Columbia, but I am not about to entice the football superstitions demons (already knocking on wood) so I will just keep my mouth shut and light a quiet little fire of hope in my belly.
posted by weeyin at 12:27 PM on June 22, 2015


England is dead.

England is NOT dead.

Dueling corners, this game.
posted by eriko at 3:19 PM on June 22, 2015


That shot will be in the tournament highlight reel.
posted by eriko at 3:34 PM on June 22, 2015


GOL!!
posted by languagehat at 3:35 PM on June 22, 2015


Man, Norway just completely gave up after that second goal. They looked totally uninterested in attacking.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 3:51 PM on June 22, 2015


England expects every one to do their D-U-T-Y. And, whaddaya know, they did! ENG 2-1 NOR. Norway was dominant the first half, and I thought it was over when they scored first, but England tied it up quickly and took the lead on an absolutely smoking goal.

So... USA vs. Columbia next.
posted by eriko at 3:53 PM on June 22, 2015


UGH I am so upset, I really want to see Colombia advance but I can't see any way that they're going to beat the US barring alien abduction right off the pitch or maybe angry bees in the locker room.
posted by poffin boffin at 3:53 PM on June 22, 2015


That second England goal was a proper bullet. Well done. Would have loved to see Norway through, but oh well.

poffin boffin, quit maligning bees. The ones in my garden are fat and fuzzy and adorable and drunk on pollen and are more suited to snuggling than attacking a football team.
posted by weeyin at 4:00 PM on June 22, 2015


In one of those oddities, UEFA uses the WWC as the qualifier for the Women's Olympic Soccer Tournament. The three best finishing European teams qualify. Because England isn't eligible*, the Norway loss means that Germany and France have locked qualification, and if I am reading the standings correctly, if the Netherlands wins tomorrow, they'll will also qualify, having also made the quarterfinals. Otherwise, Norway will, having come 2nd in a group as opposed to third for the Netherlands, Sweden and Switzerland, all having made the Group of 16 but no further.

* England isn't an IOC country, Great Britain is, but Great Britain isn't competing in the World Cup. This is odd, but there it is, England can't compete in the Olympic soccer tournament.
posted by eriko at 4:42 PM on June 22, 2015


ARGH
posted by robocop is bleeding at 5:04 PM on June 22, 2015


GOALLLLlsides.
posted by eriko at 5:05 PM on June 22, 2015


For those without access to the games on TV, the Guardian has been liveblogging all the games.
posted by clawsoon at 5:17 PM on June 22, 2015


Yellow?!
posted by languagehat at 5:17 PM on June 22, 2015


That was a weak yellow. Makes me worried about the tone the ref is setting early on.
posted by weeyin at 5:18 PM on June 22, 2015


How the hell is it that Rapinoe keep getting taken down and it's a US foul?
posted by eriko at 5:35 PM on June 22, 2015


I've been wondering that, but I'm biased and unschooled.
posted by mollweide at 5:38 PM on June 22, 2015


This is some awful reffing.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 5:41 PM on June 22, 2015


Oh, fuck. That's a disaster.
posted by eriko at 5:42 PM on June 22, 2015


Red!
posted by robocop is bleeding at 6:02 PM on June 22, 2015


OMG
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 6:03 PM on June 22, 2015


DOGSO GONE!
posted by eriko at 6:03 PM on June 22, 2015


!!
posted by languagehat at 6:03 PM on June 22, 2015


Whoa!
posted by mollweide at 6:05 PM on June 22, 2015


No
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 6:05 PM on June 22, 2015


AARGH, Son of ARGH
posted by robocop is bleeding at 6:05 PM on June 22, 2015 [1 favorite]


Was that red card worthy?
posted by mollweide at 6:06 PM on June 22, 2015


Can't play the player, even if you are the goaltender.
posted by eriko at 6:06 PM on June 22, 2015


!!!
posted by languagehat at 6:06 PM on June 22, 2015


Absolutely not, I refuse to believe that just happened.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 6:06 PM on June 22, 2015


BENCH WAMBACH.
posted by eriko at 6:06 PM on June 22, 2015


I
Just
what
happened
posted by weeyin at 6:07 PM on June 22, 2015


this game what i just what
posted by languagehat at 6:07 PM on June 22, 2015


A cold keeper and you miss the goal?
posted by eriko at 6:07 PM on June 22, 2015


WHO IS WRITING THIS EPISODE? WHAT NEXT? THE CHOMPERS?
posted by eriko at 6:08 PM on June 22, 2015


yesssssss!!!
posted by weeyin at 6:09 PM on June 22, 2015


Thank you.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 6:09 PM on June 22, 2015


FFS. IASIIAFTROTM. (I'm speaking in internet acronyms for the rest of the match.)
posted by mollweide at 6:09 PM on June 22, 2015 [1 favorite]


SO SCORE MORE
posted by robocop is bleeding at 6:10 PM on June 22, 2015


Finally.

WHAT THE HELL ELSE DID YOU NEED?
posted by eriko at 6:10 PM on June 22, 2015


Good, I was almost ready to start pre-gnash and wailing.
posted by Drinky Die at 6:10 PM on June 22, 2015


GOOOLLL!!!!!
posted by languagehat at 6:10 PM on June 22, 2015


But Jesus God we are so out in the Quarter Finals playing like this.
posted by eriko at 6:12 PM on June 22, 2015


Well, maybe not......China? But no way we're getting by Germany or France playing like this.
posted by eriko at 6:13 PM on June 22, 2015 [1 favorite]


True that, eriko. This is not the team we need to see. Or the one I was hoping to see.
posted by weeyin at 6:13 PM on June 22, 2015


Regarding the fouls in the first half, did Rapinoe actually have one? I'm not trolling, I'm just trying to understand what I'm seeing (without the benefit of an English language broadcast).
posted by mollweide at 6:13 PM on June 22, 2015


boo
posted by poffin boffin at 6:14 PM on June 22, 2015


She had one for sure, maybe one more. She was fouled a bunch. She might well have gotten the card for dissent, to be honest.
posted by eriko at 6:15 PM on June 22, 2015


China has shown more composure than we have. With Rapinoe gone next game, our midfield will suffer. I'm still not convinced Mogan is 100%, and after that penalty, I'm concerned about Wambach's confidence. We can only bulldoze for so long, and when our best bulldozers are rusty, well.
posted by weeyin at 6:15 PM on June 22, 2015


Where's the yellow now, ref?
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 6:16 PM on June 22, 2015


Studs up on Johnston - Colombia should be down to 9.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 6:17 PM on June 22, 2015


Inconsistent reffing. Not cool.
posted by weeyin at 6:17 PM on June 22, 2015


Thanks, eriko. To me it looked she was fouled more than she fouled.
posted by mollweide at 6:19 PM on June 22, 2015


After throwing a red at a goalie? That's the biggest card a ref can throw. A lot of refs will eat that card.

And that was a fair challenge on 'Pinoe there.

This ref is doing a much better job in the 2nd half. Maybe the 4th Official had a talking with her.
posted by eriko at 6:19 PM on June 22, 2015


Here we go again. YESSS! Well done, Lloyd.
posted by weeyin at 6:22 PM on June 22, 2015


Good, needed that. I'll take a few more just to be sure.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 6:22 PM on June 22, 2015


Don't get me wrong -- I think Holiday was done very wrong and Rapinoe was done wrong. But I could see her carded for dissent, she was making a lot of hand talk and such.

That time, it was clearly a penalty.
posted by eriko at 6:22 PM on June 22, 2015 [1 favorite]


THIS TIME FOR SURE.....PRESTO!
posted by eriko at 6:22 PM on June 22, 2015


Gotta wonder who made the call about taking that penalty.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 6:22 PM on June 22, 2015


Thank god.
posted by languagehat at 6:23 PM on June 22, 2015


I'm not sure I'm in favor of Doctor Grampa, Maester of Fouls.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 6:23 PM on June 22, 2015


MORE MORE MORE. That's petty of me but I wasn't the one trash talking before the game MORE MORE MORE.
posted by eriko at 6:24 PM on June 22, 2015 [1 favorite]


As a nascent fan, I really appreciate these threads, since I learn a lot from them.
posted by mollweide at 6:26 PM on June 22, 2015 [1 favorite]


Though the fact that the only reason we're wining is a very raw goaltender made a mistake and got a red card really, really bothers me. There is so much talent on this team. This should have been a walkover, why was this hard until that moment?
posted by eriko at 6:28 PM on June 22, 2015


Also -- who ever this person is with the horn?

Kill them. Please?
posted by eriko at 6:30 PM on June 22, 2015 [1 favorite]


Christen Press! I like her. She is a absolute master at one-time shots.
posted by eriko at 6:31 PM on June 22, 2015


Hopefully see you in the Semis, 'Pinoe. Hopefully.....
posted by eriko at 6:31 PM on June 22, 2015


Yeah, I'd like to see more of Press. One of the problems I've been seeing is in the passing game. Either waiting too long to release the ball, inaccurate passes, or not enough pace on it, so a lot of balls are getting intercepted.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 6:34 PM on June 22, 2015


Chalupa time!

(yes, I know that's not how it's spelled.)
posted by eriko at 6:37 PM on June 22, 2015


Both Press and Chalupny play for the Chicago Red Stars, btw.
posted by eriko at 6:37 PM on June 22, 2015


After throwing a red at a goalie? That's the biggest card a ref can throw. A lot of refs will eat that card.

Not sure if this was directed at me, but this is exactly why I was concerned by the ref pulling out early yellow cards for relatively soft yellows. It sets a certain tone to the game whereby lots of cards get thrown and everyone gets a bit more scrappy. And if you see a yellow for one side, it's expected that the ref should consistently throw the same card for every similar foul. The red card was definitely a red card, but I would have liked to have seen the ref spend a little more time cooling down the field and having good control over the game, rather than pulling the soft yellows early on. Especially in a two-yellows-and-you're-out tournament.
posted by weeyin at 6:38 PM on June 22, 2015


Damn, Solo is good. She made that save look easy. (Not a shocking discovery, I know.)
posted by languagehat at 6:43 PM on June 22, 2015


Johnston's verbosity makes me happy.
posted by weeyin at 6:49 PM on June 22, 2015


Solo is the best goaltender in the women's game, and it's not even close. She has range and an uncanny awareness of space, plus an ability to play the ball forward that many midfielders wish they had.

The US has always had a knack at goaltenders, mainly because two very popular sports here build skillsets that directly map onto soccer goaltending -- basketball and volleyball, and even better, body types that make for good volleyballers and certain basketballers make for good goalkeepers.

So it's not that surprising that the two best goalies in the women's game have been from the US, Briana Scurry and Hope Solo.
posted by eriko at 6:51 PM on June 22, 2015 [2 favorites]


You're going down, China. WOOOOOOO!
posted by Drinky Die at 6:52 PM on June 22, 2015


Nadine Angerer is (was?) up there too.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 6:57 PM on June 22, 2015


Peep Peep PEEP. USA 2-0 COL. I'm not even going to be to describe this game. Oh OK. Columbia managed to confuse the US, despite good US pressure and a called back goal, and some soft cards, but a disastrous mistake by the Columbian goalkeeper at the start of the second half led to a red card for DOGSO, which led to -- a completely missed penalty kick. No worries, the US scored two and won easily with the person advantage.

The big disaster for the USA, Lauren Holiday and Megan Rapinoe both picked up 2nd Yellow Cards and will sit for the quarter final game.

And where will those be, you ask?

Well...

England will travel to Vancouver and face Canada on the 27th of June, and the US will travel to Ottawa and face China on the 26th of June.

We are down to 9. One match in the Round of 16 left.
posted by eriko at 6:57 PM on June 22, 2015


Nadine Angerer is (was?) up there too.

Is, and is in goal this tournament.
posted by eriko at 6:59 PM on June 22, 2015


Yeah, I knew she was starting in this tournament, but she's had a rough club season and I was thinking she might be on the decline.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 7:04 PM on June 22, 2015


Now, the one good thing the USWNT has going for it -- once again, another shutout. The back four/keeper are still playing very tough. You can get away with a lot if you're not letting in goals.

It does make watching the games really freaking hard.

And we're going to *have* to try something new in the quarterfinals. We can't play the 4-4-2, because we won't have Holiday and Rapinoe to do it with. What will Ellis do? We won't know until Friday.
posted by eriko at 7:21 PM on June 22, 2015


ARGHLEBARGLE! YOU PEOPLE KEEP CALLING THEM GOAL"TENDERS" AND IT'S DRIVING ME CRAZY.

This isn't ice hockey. It's goalkeeper.

But other than that, good thread peeps, keep it up.
posted by trif at 3:36 AM on June 23, 2015 [1 favorite]


This isn't ice hockey. It's goalkeeper.

We call them lots of things. Goalkeeper, goaltender, keeper, minder, goalie...hmm, I can't really say the rest of them in polite company, can I?
posted by eriko at 6:00 AM on June 23, 2015


Missed the first 6 minutes of the USA game and the first 8 of the second half. Missed almost all of the cool shit. Damnit.
posted by GrapeApiary at 6:05 AM on June 23, 2015


Good Morning. Let's finish the round of 16, shall we?

First, about last night.

ARRGHWTFC'MONWHATTHEHELLWASTHATCRAPARRRGH!!!!

Sorry. Had to get that off my chest.

We have but one game today, which will take us to 8 and lead us into the quarterfinals.


Japan vs. The Netherlands, 2100 CDT, BC Place, Vancouver (US=FS1, UK=BBC2)


I don't know if I'll be able to watch this one, though given that it's a 9PM start for me, maybe I'll catch the latter part. I seemed to be cursed when it comes to watching Japan. This one should be an easy Japan win, and while I'd say "well, look at Brazil, or the US", I'm pretty sure that Japan won't have any problems here.

But there's a reason we play the match.
posted by eriko at 6:08 AM on June 23, 2015 [2 favorites]


Controversies from yesterday (heh.)

1) The red card. Some argue that there was a Colombian defender close enough to not make it an obvious goal scoring opportunity. I don't buy it. It was obvious Morgan was straight onto goal and the ball was behind the GT (sorry) GK when she was taken out. That was the right call -- calling DOGSO on the GK is the single biggest game changer a ref can do, and many refs flinch when they need to do it. Full credit on this one, who did *not* have a good first half, for doing it. That part of the call was correct. Heck, the ball damn near ended up in the net anyway (which, arguably, would have saved the Colombian GK, because you can't have DOGSO if a goal is scored.)

2) The PK awarded. It was close, but replays show it was barely outside the box. Not a PK, should have been a direct free kick just outside the box. Of course, the WORST PK OF THE TOURNAMENT nullified that missed call.

When the NFL rates a call (and they rate *every* call the officials make,) they have three grades. "Correct" means the call was correct. "Incorrect" means the officials blew the call. "Support" means the officials in fact got the call wrong, but the league realizes that while they can see the call was wrong after multiple replays from multiple camera angles, they understand that the officials on the field, who get one chance to see it, would make call it the way they did honestly, and you have to call what you see, so while they call was wrong, they're not going to mark down that crew for that call.

The call to award the PK? I'd grade that as a clear "support." It was close enough to the line that from a distance, I could easily have seen it as in the box and award the PK. So, while it was factually an incorrect call, I wouldn't mark down that ref for that call. You really needed to be in the right place to see it, and most of the right places to see it would have been the wrong place for the ref to be for other plays, and the rest of them involved being up in the air an impossible distance. Don't punish a ref for making a wrong call for being otherwise in the right position and having to make a difficult call at distance, and at the initial moment, I thought it was in the box as well.

3) Somebody pointed out that wasn't it amazing that the two yellow cards that went out early happened to go out to the two US players that were already on yellow cards? Hmm? Unfortunately, that someone was Abby Wambach, and that sort of thing will get you suspended, as Christine Sinclair found out after bitching about the ref in the 2012 Olympics, which got her a $3500 fine and a four match ban.

Her defense, I'm sure, is that she will say she wasn't accusing the *ref* of doing that, just that it was strange that this happened. We'll see what FIFA thinks. If they do take action resulting in a suspension, she would be able to appeal, if that appeal wasn't heard before Friday, she would be eligible to play Friday's quarterfinal, even if the appeal was heard Friday and rejected. Basically, the fact that the appeal was not heard by end-of-day Thursday makes her eligible Friday, they don't leave you hanging during game prep.

I think that's it.
posted by eriko at 6:29 AM on June 23, 2015 [5 favorites]


This isn't ice hockey. It's goalkeeper.

This is Canada. They're either keepers, if you had a British coach, as so many seem to be, or goalies to everyone else. A couple million preteens can't be wrong.
posted by bonehead at 7:14 AM on June 23, 2015 [2 favorites]


Also, it isn't "ice hockey". It's just "hockey", eh?
posted by clawsoon at 7:54 AM on June 23, 2015 [1 favorite]


We call them goalies in Britain, too. I was attempting to avoid colloquialisms.

Does Canada have a field hockey team?
posted by trif at 9:03 AM on June 23, 2015


I'm sure Canada does have a field hockey team.

But it's a field hockey team, not a hockey team.
posted by clawsoon at 9:11 AM on June 23, 2015


Yeah, we have field hockey, but it's a specialist interest*. Hockey is just hockey with no qualifiers. Hockey without ice is most commonly played on the street with two nets and an orange ball: shinny.

*The most common running-after-balls-with-sticks-on-grass game in Canada is lacrosse.
posted by bonehead at 9:11 AM on June 23, 2015 [1 favorite]


*The most common running-after-balls-with-sticks-on-grass game form of legalized assault Canada is lacrosse.

Fixed that for you. Happy to help my northern neighbors!
posted by eriko at 9:26 AM on June 23, 2015 [1 favorite]


Okay, I loved this comment about the USWNT last night from here.

"I think Jill Ellis watches Game of Thrones and thinks to herself 'I love the way that Stannis fellow sticks to a plan.'"
posted by eriko at 11:00 AM on June 23, 2015 [1 favorite]


Since Friday's first game is Germany vs France I apologize in advance for all the terrible Maginot Line jokes I will inevitably make.
posted by poffin boffin at 12:39 PM on June 23, 2015 [1 favorite]


What, Germany is going to run over and beat Belgium first?
posted by eriko at 1:21 PM on June 23, 2015 [2 favorites]


Actually, I can see it now!

The draw Poland, Spain and Czechoslovakia in the group stage, and win that easily. They get Belgium in the round of 16, blitz them, then the Netherlands in the quarters, take them out, then France in the semifinals, and it's over before the half.

And then they get cocky and take on Russia *and* England *and* the USA in the final, and lose badly.
posted by eriko at 1:29 PM on June 23, 2015 [1 favorite]


also there is a devastating surprise attack by japan
posted by poffin boffin at 1:42 PM on June 23, 2015


THE US DEFENSE WAS COMPLETELY NOT EXPECTING THAT LONG BALL ATTACK. WAVE AFTER WAVE OF GOALS. And the best US strikers are hurt badly! They're in deep trouble now, Bob!

Yes, Dan... but they didn't touch the midfielders, and the US bench is very deep. I'm afraid Japan has awoken a sleeping team here. This match has just begun, and the Americans are out to end it on their terms now.
posted by eriko at 1:48 PM on June 23, 2015 [1 favorite]


Something something War of 1812.
posted by Kattullus at 1:54 PM on June 23, 2015


The war of 1812 was nice because both sides thought they won. If only soccer could be so uplifting.
posted by clawsoon at 2:32 PM on June 23, 2015


The war of 1812 was nice because both sides thought they won.

Oh, like the US-Australia game!
posted by eriko at 2:52 PM on June 23, 2015


So, England vs Canada - any battles or wars people want to bring up for that one?

Also, Come on, England! You can do this!
posted by marienbad at 5:48 PM on June 23, 2015


Our independence from England involved a lot of drinking and a circus. Not sure what you can do with that.
posted by clawsoon at 8:27 PM on June 23, 2015


And, apparently, we have a final.

JPN 2-1 NDL

So. Now there are 8, and Japan heads to Edmonton to meet Australia on the 27th of June.
posted by eriko at 9:13 PM on June 23, 2015


And now we can tell the whole tale. The Quarterfinals will be:


26 June 2015

Germany vs France, 15:00 CDT, Olympic Stadium, Montreal

China vs United States, 18:30 CDT, Lansdowne Stadium, Ottawa

27 June 2015

Australia vs Japan, 15:00 CDT, Commonwealth Stadium, Edmonton

England vs Canada, 18:30 CDT, BC Place, Vancouver


Broadcast info later in the week. See you Friday -- late for me, I will be driving to Cincinnati, so I will probably miss (online) the start of the Germany-France match, but I have SiriusXM, so I'll certainly be listening. I just won't be able to post.

So you guys will have to carry that weight. I'll get the morning post in before I go.
posted by eriko at 9:21 PM on June 23, 2015 [1 favorite]


Oh, about those UEFA Olympic qualifiers....

Turns out the fact that Norway did better in the group stage? Means nothing. If the Netherlands had beat Japan, they would have joined France and Germany in the Olympics. They didn't. So, there is going to be a four way tournament between them, Norway, Sweden, and Switzerland for that last spot.

Why? Because someone was smoking the wacky tobaccky when they decided this, that's why.

Why they don't run another full qualification tournament like everyone else and get even more money I have no idea. Because it is really awesome wacky tobaccky and they aren't sharing obviously.
posted by eriko at 9:30 PM on June 23, 2015




The *only* explanation for that Netherlands goal was the goalkeeper's controller broke.
posted by eriko at 5:58 AM on June 24, 2015


That Japanese goal...the back heal...the step over...the curling hard shot into the upper corner was indeed a thing of beauty. I watched it several times over.
posted by mmascolino at 7:15 AM on June 24, 2015 [1 favorite]


Okay, guys.

PREDICTION TIME!

First, my brave/stupid predictions

GER 2-3 FRA (?!)
CHN 0-1 USA

AUS 1-3 JPN
ENG 1-1 CAN, England in PKs.

Yes, I think France can beat Germany. Germany is tough, but they haven't been tested this Worldcup. France has, got surprised one and toughen up. The US will continue to have a brick wall defense and an incompetent offense that will get one goal.

Japan will, alas, send the Aussies home efficiently. Goodbye, Matildas, you played the US the best and that brag of yours was absolutely right. You are all set to be a real power come next time. I think England can hold the fort against the hosts and then? Well I think the have the right attitude to win in PKs.

Anybody else want to lay it on the line and be completely and utterly wrong like me?
posted by eriko at 8:41 AM on June 24, 2015


I haven't been able to follow the elimination stage as closely as I had hoped:

GER 2-FRA 2, FRA in PKs
CHN 1-USA 2

AUS 0 - JPN 2
ENG 0 - CAN 0, CAN in PKs.

(Have to go with CAN as, you know, I'm a homer).

Prepared to be completely wrong!
posted by nubs at 10:41 AM on June 24, 2015


Wait wait wait wait wait.
England to win a penalty shootout?

Let's not get crazy here.
posted by Huffy Puffy at 11:17 AM on June 24, 2015


I dislike making predictions in general... but in this particular case, what the hell...

GER 1-FRA 2 (I'm honestly just going with my heart on this one, in theory they're very evenly matched teams).
CHN 0-USA 2 (Though narratively speaking, China should go to the end and lose to the lovable underdog team).

AUS 1 - JPN 2 (The Japanese defense can always make mistakes, but their attackers should be able to score more than one goal agains the Matildas).
ENG 1 - CAN 2 a.e.t. (I just think that the massed fans will spur Canada to victory).

I'm generally more in favor of good analysis than crapshoot guesses, but I'd say that since I'm more often wrong than not when predicting scores.
posted by Kattullus at 11:22 AM on June 24, 2015


England to win a penalty shootout?

Sure. Rooney isn't taking part. zing!

I'm still laughing at his corner kick against Italy last world cup. It was a work of outdoor art. You know, big, out in public, and useless.
posted by eriko at 11:23 AM on June 24, 2015 [1 favorite]


GER 4-1 FRA
CHN 0-1 USA

AUS 0-1 JPN
ENG 2-1 CAN a. e. t.
posted by Tsuga at 11:35 AM on June 24, 2015


eriko: The *only* explanation for that Netherlands goal was the goalkeeper's controller broke.

Watching it again, it looks like she's caught completely off guard by the way the ball bounces. I think this one can be chalked up to playing on turf.
posted by Kattullus at 11:40 AM on June 24, 2015




The thing is, almost everywhere, these guys have played on turf often -- many practice fields are turf, because they can't handle the constant wear with grass. 6 of the 9 US women's pro teams play on turf. A lot of practice fields are turf because grass can't handle the day-in-day-out workload.

Of course, that particular turf in Vancouver isn't very popular with the MLS crowd. They rated it the 2nd worst surface in the league (behind New England) but BC Place sees a lot of events besides MLS and CFL games and the turf spend a lot of time under covers and gets matted down. And this is an issue because Vancouver is where the final will be played -- and note where Japan was playing when that goal happened.
posted by eriko at 12:29 PM on June 24, 2015


If FIFA is so goddam concerned with the women's game, why can't they make sure it's not played on turf? "Well, it doesn't just happen at the World Cup" isn't much help.
posted by languagehat at 1:28 PM on June 24, 2015


I honestly don't know why. Guesses.

1) 5 of the 6 stadia were turf, Canada (the only bid left) said it would cost too much and they would pull out if they had to convert to grass. FIFA said OK.

2) Canada simply didn't think it was a big deal. FIFA said convert Moncton to turf so all the fields were consistent, they did.

3) The turf manufacturer paid FIFA a big bribe.

Pick your favorite.
posted by eriko at 1:33 PM on June 24, 2015


And, since the Round of 16 is done, we can update the final rankings of the eliminated teams.

(eliminated in Round of 16)
9. Brazil (9 pts +3)
10. Norway (7 pts +5)
11. Cameroon (6 pts +5)
12. Colombia (4 pts -1)
13. The Netherlands (4 pts -1) (loses on goals for (3 vs. 4))
14. South Korea (4 pts -4)
15. Switzerland (3 pts +6)
16. Sweden (3 pts -3)
(eliminated in Group Stage)
17. Thailand (3 pts -7)
18. Costa Rica (2 pts -1)
19. New Zealand (2 pts -1) (loses on goals for (2 vs. 3))
20. Spain (1 pt -2)
21. Nigeria (1 pt -3)
22. Mexico (1 pt -6)
23. Ivory Coast (0 pts -13)
24. Ecuador (0 pts -16)

The four who lose Friday and Saturday go home. The four that win play two more games -- the semifinals and the final/third place games.
posted by eriko at 2:02 PM on June 24, 2015


I've played on the Ottawa turf for rec league (though calling it even rec level probably dignifies us a great deal more than a bunch of creaky knees deserve). It's... ok, I guess. I'd much, much rather play on grass.
posted by bonehead at 2:03 PM on June 24, 2015


Oh, England no! Never forget the comma. That comma is important.
posted by eriko at 6:19 PM on June 24, 2015 [2 favorites]


I never thought "Clap for Sweden" would be trumped. I was so wrong. So very, very wrong.
posted by eriko at 6:21 PM on June 24, 2015 [1 favorite]


What the hell…

GER 2-1 FRA (I feel like everyone is trying for this not to be the case.)
CHN 0-1 USA (USA! USA!)

AUS 0-2 JPN (Sorry, but your number is up)
ENG 1-1 CAN (CAN in PKs.)
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 6:51 PM on June 24, 2015


Oh, England no! Never forget the comma. That comma is important.

Home of the King's English.
posted by nubs at 6:19 AM on June 25, 2015


Gooood morning! QUARTERFINAL TIME!

Our long dark period is over.

Today, we shall say our goodbyes to Ottawa, the city that is half vowel. After this quarterfinal, we shall play here no more. Farewell, sweet capital!

Two go home. Two go on.

I'm adding SiriusXM to the broadcast info because I'm going to have to listen to at least part of Germany/France on a drive today (probably, unless I can get out early enough) and I might as well let you guys know the info too, right?

Today's matches:


Germany vs. France, 15:00 CDT, Olympic Stadium, Montreal (US=FOX, UK=BBC3, SIR=219, XM=203)

China vs. United States, 18:00 CDT, Lansdowne Stadium, Ottawa (US=FOX, UK=BRB, SIR=94, XM=94)


If you want to join the be incredibly wrong with your predictions fun, do so before 3PM CDT, and I'll expect you guy to carry on the conversation until I get settled and am able to scream at the TV for the USA game.

Because I fully expect that to happen again.
posted by eriko at 5:15 AM on June 26, 2015


GER 2 - 0 FRA
CHN 0 - 1 USA a.e.t.

AUS 2 - 3 JPN
ENG 2 - 1 CAN

Now taking wagers on number of Rock Steady myocardial infarctions during CHN-USA: over/under 3.
posted by Rock Steady at 6:41 AM on June 26, 2015


I'll take the under if we start a 4-3-3 and the over if we start the damn 4-4-2.
posted by eriko at 7:03 AM on June 26, 2015 [1 favorite]


I'll be at work for Germany-France, but friends have already bailed on me (and I on them), so China-USA will get my full attention. Yay for games finally being on network TV!

No predictions, because I fear mine will be freakishly similar to all the ones posted before, for I am boring and still new at this sort of thing.
posted by PearlRose at 9:08 AM on June 26, 2015


A POX UPON THIS HORN MAN
posted by poffin boffin at 1:14 PM on June 26, 2015 [2 favorites]


also my prediction for this game is PKs at 2 all.
posted by poffin boffin at 1:17 PM on June 26, 2015


with no actual prediction on the winner, yes.
posted by poffin boffin at 1:17 PM on June 26, 2015 [1 favorite]


Wow, France has done a really good job of stifling the German attack.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 1:46 PM on June 26, 2015


Le goal!
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 2:19 PM on June 26, 2015


Wow this ref is bad
posted by sauril at 2:32 PM on June 26, 2015


Wow, this ref is really bad.
posted by sauril at 2:39 PM on June 26, 2015


I'm at the office and can't live stream it, but what happened? Bad penalty call to allow Germany to even it up is my guess?
posted by nubs at 3:09 PM on June 26, 2015


yeah, so far from what I've seen, the ref has got in the way of a good scoring opportunity or two, given a few calls the wrong way, made phantom calls, missed obvious fouls, and called a terrible penalty.
posted by sauril at 3:16 PM on June 26, 2015


PKs!
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 3:28 PM on June 26, 2015


Woot! Made it to a TV in time for PKs!
posted by eriko at 3:35 PM on June 26, 2015


Woot! Forgot how bad Fox Soccer commentators are!
posted by eriko at 3:35 PM on June 26, 2015


Arg, TSN's Match page is useless...I mean, it's updating the score & # of successful PKs, but it won't tell me how many PKs have been taken...
posted by nubs at 3:36 PM on June 26, 2015


It's currently 3 for 3 for both teams
posted by eriko at 3:36 PM on June 26, 2015


Who's really happy about this game is whomever wins China/USA, provided they do not also go to extra time.
posted by eriko at 3:38 PM on June 26, 2015


France is a must-make now
posted by eriko at 3:38 PM on June 26, 2015


GER 1-1 FRA (5-4 PK)
posted by eriko at 3:39 PM on June 26, 2015


France loses a heartbreaker on the last kick.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 3:39 PM on June 26, 2015


As much as France dominated this game, it comes down to one missed penalty kick. Absolutely heartbreaking.

Person of the match has to go to Angerer. She got shelled and let one through.
posted by eriko at 3:40 PM on June 26, 2015


That miss at the end, the bad penalty call.... France really should have won that.
posted by sauril at 3:43 PM on June 26, 2015


And to call out an earlier conversation? Yes, if Hope Solo is the best GK in the world? Nadine Angerer is the only one playing who's close. I don't think she's better. But she's at least in the argument. The one thing I'll give her without hesitation is hand speed -- she's a damn kung fu master with her hands. Hope relies more on getting her body in the way and knowing where to put her body, Angerer can count on getting her arms up fast.

It's also her last dance -- she's retiring after this World Cup.

France really should have won that.

All those shots, didn't get them in. Almost doesn't count. You gotta get them in the net while you had the chance. If they had the finish, this was 3-0 at the half, done and dusted.

They let Germany back into this match, and you cannot do that.
posted by eriko at 3:46 PM on June 26, 2015


I'm watching the highlights -- 1st minute, they had Angerer beat, and they missed the frame.

117 minute -- they had her beat again -- she's completely out of position -- and they missed the frame AGAIN.

They beat Nadine Angerer THREE TIMES and walked away with one goal.

You don't win like that.

AND GOD I FORGOT ABOUT LALAS KILL ME NOW.
posted by eriko at 3:50 PM on June 26, 2015


A POX UPON THIS HORN MAN

So THAT'S what the hell that noise was on the SiriusXM broadcast. Sounded like someone was screwing an opera singer in the back of the press box or something.
posted by eriko at 3:52 PM on June 26, 2015


Okay, going to need help. MUST NOT THROW OBJECTS AT HOTEL TV.
posted by eriko at 3:52 PM on June 26, 2015


China is playing a 4-3-2-1. The US is playing AAGH FUCK YOU ELLIS, I mean 4-4-2.

Morgan/A Rod up front. I didn't catch the mids, too busy swearing.
posted by eriko at 3:54 PM on June 26, 2015


Ahh, anthem time.

We own all your helmets,
we own all your shoes!
We own all your generals -
touch us and you'll lose!

posted by eriko at 4:25 PM on June 26, 2015


Ouch, horrible tackle.
posted by languagehat at 4:58 PM on June 26, 2015


Damn, header too high.
posted by languagehat at 5:01 PM on June 26, 2015


Both teams looking good, as you would expect.
posted by languagehat at 5:01 PM on June 26, 2015


Damn, so close.
posted by eriko at 5:01 PM on June 26, 2015


This team is so different with O'Hara out there. Completely different, and 100% better. ARE YOU NOTCING THIS MS. ELLIS?
posted by eriko at 5:02 PM on June 26, 2015


US looking good at halftime, but they'd better figure out how to actually get a goal.
posted by languagehat at 5:18 PM on June 26, 2015


Well, other than one little detail, the US has pretty much been dominant in this half.

The one detail is, well, that 0-0 score. And we all saw what happened to France when they didn't get it on frame. But the US pressure has left China basically unable to do anything but desperately try to clear for most the of the half.

But no goals.
posted by eriko at 5:21 PM on June 26, 2015


Lalas wants to put in Wambach. Which means DON'T DO IT.
posted by eriko at 5:22 PM on June 26, 2015


GOALLL!
posted by eriko at 5:37 PM on June 26, 2015


I tripped over a box in my haste to scream at the TV. Why is there an empty box in my living room?!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL.
posted by PearlRose at 5:38 PM on June 26, 2015


No doubt.
posted by Drinky Die at 5:38 PM on June 26, 2015


GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOALLLLLLL!!!!!
posted by languagehat at 5:39 PM on June 26, 2015


Don't back off now. MORE MORE MORE
posted by eriko at 5:40 PM on June 26, 2015


Carli Lloyd!!!
posted by languagehat at 5:40 PM on June 26, 2015 [1 favorite]


Abby should fucking ask for another fucking goal. :-)
posted by eriko at 5:41 PM on June 26, 2015


Damn!
posted by languagehat at 5:43 PM on June 26, 2015


Press coming in.
posted by languagehat at 5:47 PM on June 26, 2015


Damn, O'Hara off. Okay, Press, you've got the best one touch in the game. Score us some goals.
posted by eriko at 5:48 PM on June 26, 2015


Last China sub in. Two US subs left.
posted by eriko at 6:01 PM on June 26, 2015


WE CAN HAS HAO!!!!
posted by eriko at 6:07 PM on June 26, 2015


the only thing better than hearing the nbc universo commentator say FRAU MANNSCHAFT is seeing the captions person try to type it
posted by poffin boffin at 6:18 PM on June 26, 2015 [2 favorites]


Peep peep PEEP! USA 1-0 CHN!!!!!!
posted by eriko at 6:20 PM on June 26, 2015


GERMANY HERE WE COME!
posted by languagehat at 6:21 PM on June 26, 2015


And now there are six left.

Credit to China, who's program collapsed after 1999 and many people thought wouldn't make it out of the group, and they made the quarterfinals, but their time here is done. Farewell.

And farewell to Ottawa, as well.

Credit to the USWNT, who played a much better game than the 1-0 score would indicate, and I hope Jill Ellis TOOK NOTES.

Aslo -- accumulated yellow cards are wiped out after the quarterfinals. Everybody who's made it is eligible for the Semifinals.

So. Semifinal #1 will be Germany vs. United States, June 30th, 18:00CDT in Montreal.

We will find out Semifinal #2 tomorrow, and of course, I'll have the usual morning post..in the morning. As for now, it is beer time!
posted by eriko at 6:25 PM on June 26, 2015


Well, with France out of the picture it looks like it's up to us to handle Germany.




Again.
posted by Drinky Die at 6:55 PM on June 26, 2015 [1 favorite]


Again.

Will you need two years to begin doing the right thing this time, or three?
posted by clawsoon at 7:12 PM on June 26, 2015 [5 favorites]


It's not our fault we weren't matched up with Japan yet!
posted by Drinky Die at 7:15 PM on June 26, 2015


Goddamn Germany.

I hope they get trounced by Wambach's forehead.
posted by Kattullus at 4:42 AM on June 27, 2015 [1 favorite]


Well, with France out of the picture it looks like it's up to us to handle Germany.
Again.

posted by Drinky Die

Yeah, you guys did a great job of that during the Battle of Britain.

Come on, England!

*enspouses eriko for the link to that twitter pic upthread* - Don't worry, it's all legal now; thanks SCOTUS!
posted by marienbad at 6:56 AM on June 27, 2015


Wasn't Britain still styling themselves an Empire at the time? Who knew you would need little old US just to hold on to poor Airstrip One? Well, whatever the historical situation, I think we can all rest assured that this sporting event will settle everything once and for all.
posted by Drinky Die at 7:06 AM on June 27, 2015


Well, if England and the U.S. make it to the finals we will get the war of 1812!

Hey, marienbad! Come to complain about the short corners?
posted by eriko at 7:06 AM on June 27, 2015 [1 favorite]


And, you know, I've heard of sports widows. Why not. I'm proud to call marienbad my footie husband!

We do have a mixed marriage though. USA USA USA!
posted by eriko at 7:29 AM on June 27, 2015


Good morning, all!

Sorry for the slight delay, folks. I was up late talking to friends, this, after all, being why I drove down here. Then, apparently, I got soccer married. WHO KNEW? Hell of a night. Yuengling, kids, hell of a drug. ANYWAY.

We have two more matches today! For 27 June, 2015, we have:


Australia vs. Japan, 15:00 CDT, Commonwealth Stadium, Edmonton

England vs. Canada, 18:30 CDT, BC Place, Vancouver


The winners have the semi finals and another match ahead of them. They will meet in the July 1st semifinal. The losers have a long flight home. Well, unless Canada loses, that's not as long a flight for them.

First round prediction winners:

For Germany-France, I'm giving it to ChurchHatesTucker for his 2-1 Germany, which is closest and has Germany winning.

For USA-China, we have three who nailed it: ChurchHatesTucker, Tsuga, and Yours Truly, and an oh so close, Rock Steady, who got the score right but shanks it with the "a.e.t." at the end.

So, 2-0 so far ChurchHatesTucker. Try not to be too smug.

Those wanting to try for today's game who haven't, you've got until 3PM CST. The worst you can do is be wrong.
posted by eriko at 8:10 AM on June 27, 2015


So, 2-0 so far ChurchHatesTucker. Try not to be too smug.

Wow. First marriage equality and now this...
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 8:21 AM on June 27, 2015 [2 favorites]


Whoops. I forgot broadcast info. (Falls on foam sword.)

Australia vs. Japan, 15:00 CDT, Commonwealth Stadium, Edmonton (US=FS1, UK=BBC3, SIRI=219, XM=203)

England vs. Canada, 18:30 CDT, BC Place, Vancouver (US=FS1, UK=BBC1, SIRI=94, XM=94)

Yes, England has made the big time -- BBC1. They're also on BBC3 and BBC Radio 5 Live.
posted by eriko at 8:27 AM on June 27, 2015


Wow. First marriage equality and now this...

They banned selfie sticks at Disneyworld too. It's a WHOLE NEW WORLD.....
posted by eriko at 8:29 AM on June 27, 2015 [1 favorite]


Man, no love for Aus v Japan? Aus looking much better than I was expecting, but also Japan looking just about as sloppy as they are - plenty of passes to the opposition from both teams.
posted by the agents of KAOS at 1:37 PM on June 27, 2015


Is it the Aussies or the Japanese who are calling to each other so much? It's hard for me to tell because Fox, naturally and as usual, has the crowd noise mixed to goddamned loud.
posted by ob1quixote at 1:38 PM on June 27, 2015


Whoop, I didn't set my watch to EDT, missed most of the 1st half, and this is not the score I expected to see. Good on the Aussies.
posted by eriko at 1:43 PM on June 27, 2015


I'm watching the BBC - I think it's Australia but I can't really hear it properly.

The corner lineup Japan is doing is neat. Have they been doing that all tournament?
posted by the agents of KAOS at 1:44 PM on June 27, 2015


has the crowd noise mixed to goddamned loud.

Oh, lordy, yes. Even worse was listening to it in the car, when they had it all mixed into flat stereo and you could barely hear the call over the crowd noise, and it all compressed into an incredibly narrow channel so you had like 4KHz of bandwidth.
posted by eriko at 1:44 PM on June 27, 2015


Has Japan been paying this slow all tournament? I remember them being really fast in 2011.
posted by eriko at 2:06 PM on June 27, 2015


Well, the Japan back four has pace. Nice drop back to shut that attack right down.
posted by eriko at 2:09 PM on June 27, 2015


You'd think one of these times Japan is going to score. They're working the ball in. Australia's bombing it in long distance and hoping for a breakaway.
posted by eriko at 2:21 PM on June 27, 2015


Stab in the heart goal.
posted by eriko at 2:43 PM on June 27, 2015


JPN 1-0 AUS.

Sorry, Aussies. You were great, and I'm really afraid of what you're going to be in 2019.

One more quarterfinal to go... see you in 90 minutes!
posted by eriko at 2:51 PM on June 27, 2015


I followed the game in The Guardian's minute-by-minute report. I nominate the following as the most Australian thing said about this Australian team: "Kerr is doubled over, looking as exhausted as a pair of socks you’ve worn on a 98km hike across a desert track."
posted by Kattullus at 3:01 PM on June 27, 2015


That miss hardly matters now as Japan score a well-deserved goal. Australia have a mountain to climb now. Or at least a very large hill, which tend to be called mountains in Australia.

I love the Guardian's liveblog!
posted by languagehat at 3:10 PM on June 27, 2015 [1 favorite]


The Guardian live blogs are a treasure. I really like the cricket ones because they have a lot more time for things related, but the soccer ones are good too.
posted by eriko at 3:27 PM on June 27, 2015


Kattullus: “"Kerr is doubled over, looking as exhausted as a pair of socks you’ve worn on a 98km hike across a desert track."”
At one point, one of the Australian players got a bottle of water during a stoppage, opened it, and poured it over her feet rather than into her mouth. It seems like the conditions on that turf are hellish, despite protestations to the contrary by the organizers.

Also, I got a chance to hear more clearly during the second half at one point when I was watching in the kitchen, and I thought what I heard was, "Hai! Hai! Hai! So I'm inclined to believe it was the Japanese team calling to each other during the match.
posted by ob1quixote at 3:43 PM on June 27, 2015


Hopefully, in this game, it'll be impossible to hear the teams over the crowd, not merely difficult.
posted by clawsoon at 4:24 PM on June 27, 2015


GOOOOOAAAALLLL!!

ENGLAND!
posted by eriko at 4:42 PM on June 27, 2015 [1 favorite]


Wow, what a defensive howler by Canada.
posted by eriko at 4:43 PM on June 27, 2015


Nice finish!
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 4:43 PM on June 27, 2015


A bit of luck, but well exploited.
posted by Thing at 4:44 PM on June 27, 2015


GOALLL! ENGLAND AGAIN!
posted by eriko at 4:45 PM on June 27, 2015 [1 favorite]


Again! Beautiful set piece!
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 4:45 PM on June 27, 2015


ENGLAND WOMEN ARE COMING ON.
posted by eriko at 4:45 PM on June 27, 2015


That was the most awkward repressed hug between two guys I've ever seen - so English!
posted by the agents of KAOS at 4:46 PM on June 27, 2015 [1 favorite]


Okay, that one wasn't luck! Clearly they're on fire.
posted by Thing at 4:47 PM on June 27, 2015


Wow, the stadium has gotten so quiet that you can now clearly hear England's manager yelling instructions to the team. Talk about taking the crowd out the game.
posted by eriko at 4:48 PM on June 27, 2015


It's going to be an excruciating 75 minutes for Canada supporters, that's for sure.
posted by Thing at 4:49 PM on June 27, 2015


If Schmitt and Sinclair can't get the ball on frame, then this game is going to end very badly for Canada.
posted by eriko at 4:50 PM on June 27, 2015


It's been pretty even so far, really, except for the finishing. Canada have had two practically identical chances to the two England scored from and not even hit the target with either of them.
posted by dng at 4:51 PM on June 27, 2015


Another Sinclair miss -- but that one was a tough ball to get on target, with her moving 180° to it.
posted by eriko at 5:02 PM on June 27, 2015


This ref certainly likes giving Canada free kicks.
posted by dng at 5:04 PM on June 27, 2015


Schitt, I misspelled Schmidt. Apologies, ma'am.

Okay, England, that was the lamest attempt at clearing I've seen in a long time.
posted by eriko at 5:04 PM on June 27, 2015


GOAL! Canada back in it!
posted by eriko at 5:12 PM on June 27, 2015


Wow, that was solid confident work around the box by Canada!
posted by the agents of KAOS at 5:13 PM on June 27, 2015


Got it! Canada claws one back!
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 5:14 PM on June 27, 2015


That was certainly a crappy goal to concede. A shame for Bardsley because she played brilliantly in the last round.
posted by dng at 5:14 PM on June 27, 2015


Canada is on fire right now.
posted by eriko at 5:15 PM on June 27, 2015


Peep PEEP HALFTIME.
posted by eriko at 5:18 PM on June 27, 2015


Definitely a very entertaining game so far.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 5:18 PM on June 27, 2015


I wonder if Canada is looking for a fucking goal in the first ten fucking minutes? #WorkedForTheUSA
posted by eriko at 5:34 PM on June 27, 2015


Is it just me or does nothing good ever happen after Sesselman takes the ball?
posted by cacofonie at 5:34 PM on June 27, 2015


Wow, England has to sub out the goalie. That's not good. I hope she's ok.
posted by eriko at 5:38 PM on June 27, 2015


Uh oh, potentially bad news for England.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 5:38 PM on June 27, 2015


Retinal detachment?
posted by cacofonie at 5:39 PM on June 27, 2015


Oh, hush people, you'll get all this back in stoppage time. Sheesh.
posted by eriko at 5:39 PM on June 27, 2015


NICE save, and probably saved the game for Canada.
posted by eriko at 5:43 PM on June 27, 2015


That was an incredible save there.
posted by dng at 5:43 PM on June 27, 2015


Current report on Bardsley is impact injury, possible orbital fracture.
posted by eriko at 5:46 PM on June 27, 2015


Did they ever re-show what caused it?
posted by dng at 5:48 PM on June 27, 2015


I didn't see a replay on what caused the injury.
posted by eriko at 5:48 PM on June 27, 2015


Canada is definitely in control of the match right now -- question is can they get that second goal they need before the clock runs out?
posted by eriko at 5:53 PM on June 27, 2015


Corner for Canada...
posted by languagehat at 5:59 PM on June 27, 2015


Another ball straight to McLeod!
posted by languagehat at 6:05 PM on June 27, 2015


59% possession for Canada!
posted by cacofonie at 6:09 PM on June 27, 2015


Ouch, they should have scored there.
posted by languagehat at 6:12 PM on June 27, 2015


Seriously, Canada, if you can't finish....
posted by eriko at 6:13 PM on June 27, 2015


Just five minutes left...
posted by languagehat at 6:14 PM on June 27, 2015


I don't know why they're being so hard on Tancredi. It was a chance, but hardly an open net
posted by cacofonie at 6:14 PM on June 27, 2015


Remember -- there's going to be a lot of stoppage time.
posted by eriko at 6:15 PM on June 27, 2015


Time to pull the goalie, eh?
posted by clawsoon at 6:17 PM on June 27, 2015


And a few more good, clean bodychecks to show those Europeans what's what.
posted by clawsoon at 6:18 PM on June 27, 2015


Five minutes stoppage...
posted by languagehat at 6:18 PM on June 27, 2015


Goalie up!
posted by eriko at 6:19 PM on June 27, 2015


Free kick for England!
posted by languagehat at 6:21 PM on June 27, 2015


*sigh* Sesselman!!
posted by cacofonie at 6:21 PM on June 27, 2015


She should have been sent off there.
posted by dng at 6:22 PM on June 27, 2015


2-1!
posted by languagehat at 6:24 PM on June 27, 2015


Hell of a game!
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 6:24 PM on June 27, 2015


Well done England.
posted by languagehat at 6:25 PM on June 27, 2015


Good call, Rock Steady.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 6:25 PM on June 27, 2015


Is there a plausible explanation for how she wasn't sent off?
posted by the agents of KAOS at 6:25 PM on June 27, 2015


Didn't the ref miss an earlier card when a Canadian player interfered with a throw in?
posted by Thing at 6:29 PM on June 27, 2015


And, well ENG 2-1 CAN. And the hosts go, or actually stay home.

So. Semifinal #2: England vs. Japan, July 1st.

And then there were four. Germany, #1 in the World. The US, #2 in the World. Japan, the Defending Champs.

And England.

See you on Wednesday!
posted by eriko at 6:31 PM on June 27, 2015


Yeeeeessss!! Again - Come on, England! We can beat Japan, and make it to the final.

Anyone confident enough to make some predictions for the semis?
posted by marienbad at 4:45 AM on June 28, 2015


England 1 - 0 Japan - A close and tight game, but England edge it.

Germany 4 - 0 USA - USA shown how the German machine operates when it gets this far into a competition.
posted by marienbad at 4:47 AM on June 28, 2015


Final - Germany 3 - 1 England - Unfortunately, so are England.
posted by marienbad at 4:47 AM on June 28, 2015


The 2011 final between Japan and England is the best final at a major international tournament I've seen this century (i.e. since the 2000 Men's Euros final). I'm kinda hoping for a rematch in the final.

How was the 2012 Olympics finals? I couldn't watch it at the time, which I rued.
posted by Kattullus at 8:54 AM on June 28, 2015


Okay. Back home. A few post keeping, or if you prefer, post tending posts. First.

Since we've finished the quarterfinals, we can update the standings.
(eliminated in Quarterfinals)

5. France (10 pts +7) (Qualifies for Olympic Women's Tournament)
6. Canada (8 pts +1)
7. Australia (7 pts +0)
8. China (7 pts +0) (loses on goals for (4 vs. 5))
(eliminated in Round of 16)
9. Brazil (9 pts +3)
10. Norway (7 pts +5)
11. Cameroon (6 pts +5)
12. Colombia (4 pts -1)
13. The Netherlands (4 pts -1) (loses on goals for (3 vs. 4))
14. South Korea (4 pts -4)
15. Switzerland (3 pts +6)
16. Sweden (3 pts -3)
(eliminated in Group Stage)
17. Thailand (3 pts -7)
18. Costa Rica (2 pts -1)
19. New Zealand (2 pts -1) (loses on goals for (2 vs. 3))
20. Spain (1 pt -2)
21. Nigeria (1 pt -3)
22. Mexico (1 pt -6)
23. Ivory Coast (0 pts -13)
24. Ecuador (0 pts -16)

The remaining teams play two games. The results of those determines thier place.

Lose, then lose: Fourth.
Lose, then win: Third.
Win, then lose: Second.
Win, then win: Champions.

Finally, as to the Olympics. Regardless, Germany also qualifies as the (now 1st, since they have advanced farther than France) qualifier to the Women's Olympic Tournament. France is the 2nd Qualifier. The Netherlands, Norway, Switzerland and Sweden will later play a four game tournament for the third and final place (I thought Norway would win it on points, but nope.)

England doesn't qualify for the Olympic tournament because the Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish FAs objected to England representing the United Kingdom alone in that tournament, rather than a UK wide team, but there's no way for a UK wide team to try and qualify, because UEFA uses the WWC as the Olympic Qualifier. Had the other FA's agreed, England could have stood for the UK, but they didn't, so The FA stood down the offer, and despite England also being in the semis, will not be in the Olympics. England alone is not an Olympic nation, so that team cannot participate.

Hopefully, UEFA will fix this by stop using the WWC and actually hosting a tournament like the other confederations, which would allow a UK wide team to enter.
posted by eriko at 2:04 PM on June 28, 2015 [2 favorites]


Postkeeping #2: How did I do?

Remember those predictions I made in the FPP? Let's see...

1) China.
Predicted:Out in QF.
Actual: Out in QF.
DING! DING! DING!
1 for 1

2) Cameroon.
Predicted: Out in R16.
Actual: Out in R16.
DING! DING! DING!
2 for 2

3) USA.
Predicted: Still here.
Actual: USA! USA! USA!
I BELIEVE THAT I CAN DING DING DING!
3 for 3

4) Columbia.
Predicted: Out in R16.
Actual: Out in R16.
DING! DING! DING!
4 for 4

5) Germany.
Predicted: Teutonic Efficiency... (Still here.)
Actual: Is Teutonic! (Still here.)
DING! DING! DING!
5 for 5

6) Sweden.
Predicted: Made two, so calling it a push.
Actual: For the record, the pod people showed up, and they were out in R16.
5 for 5, one push

7) France.
Predicted: Stupidly, Still Here, which meant this or Germany was wrong.
Actual: And this was the wrong one.
(Sad Trombone.)
5 for 6, one push

8) South Korea
Predicted: Out in R16.
Actual: Out in R16.
BACK TO THE DING! DING! DING!
6 for 7, one push

9) Brazil
Predicted: Still here (but warned I could be wrong.)
Actual: Out in R16 (I was wrong.)
(Sad Trombone Strikes Back!)
6 for 8, one push

10) Australia
Predicted: Out in R16.
Actual: Out in Quarterfinals. They weren't who I was expecting to make me wrong about Brazil.
(Sad Trombone III: The Saddening.)
6 for 9, one push

11) Japan
Predicted: Still here (but warned I could be wrong.)
Actual: STILL HERE! (Brazil couldn't knock them out because Australia.)
SAVE ME DINGER! DING! DING! DING!
7 for 10, one push.

12) The Netherlands
Predicted: Out in R16.
Actual: Out in R16.
MORE OF THAT SWEET DING! DING! DING!
8 for 11, one push.

13) Norway.
Predicted: Still Here as the Sleeper.
Actual: Out in R16, WRONG SLEEPER.
(Sad Trombone IV: Sad Trombone Jubilee All Stars!)
8 for 12, one push.

14) England.
Predicted: Out in R16
Actual: HERE'S THE FUCKING SLEEPER. Still Here.
(Sad Trombone V: Sad Trombone goes to London!)
8 for 13, one push.

15) Canada.
Predicted: Out in QF, if they were lucky.
Actual: Out in QF, they were lucky.
DING! DING! DING! EH!
9 for 14, one push

16) Switzerland.
Predicted: Out in the QF.
Actual: Out in the QF.
DING ME BABY ON LAST TIME! DING! DING! DING!
10 for 15, one push.

So... 10 correct, 5 wrong, one push. I did correctly predict a sleeper, I just predicted the wrong one -- Norway instead of England, but they started in exactly the same place and ran exactly the same path to the Semifinal, so I could almost take a bonus DING! for that.
posted by eriko at 2:30 PM on June 28, 2015 [2 favorites]


I don't think Germany is going to light up the USA. Colombia put two on France, couldn't put any on the USA, and Germany barely got one on France. The USA back four have been brilliant all tournament, and the US GKs are the best there are.

I don't know who's going to win -- but there score is going to be at most 1-1. This is the two best teams with the two best defenses and the two best goalkeepers in Angerer and Solo. The only difference is you have the methodical and precise offense of Germany versus the opportunistic offense of the US, and I don't think either one is going to work here.

If it went 0-0 a.e.t, I would not be surprised. If it went down 0-0 a.e.t and pks were 5-4 and we were at a must-save PK, I would not be surprised -- and I'm not sure who'd I want at that line. Could Angerer do it again? Could Solo, who hasn't been tested at all the last four games?

England? Well, the easy street that let the sleeper sneak in is over. Canada had horrific offensive problems the entire tournament, dominated most of that game, but simply couldn't get the ball in the net, and made a howler which England (to its great credit) immediately made them pay for.

But Japan is on a whole different level. Can England beat them? I don't think they can. But if any England team could beat Japan, this is the one. But England's defense is going to have to play tight to stop Japan -- and, of course, the question is will Karen Bardsley be able to go into goal or will Siobhan Chamberlain have to make the start, her first at the WC level and only second appearance?

It will be tough for England. I think they'll lose 2-0. I do not want them to, and I really hope I'm wrong again here.
posted by eriko at 2:46 PM on June 28, 2015 [1 favorite]


A tale of two quarterfinals, in the xG (Expected Goals) maps.

The first: The USA dominates 1-0. What do you mean, dominates? This. Note that China never even got close, and the TOTAL expected goals was 0.2

Yes. China's total expected goals of all of their shots was 1/5th of a goal.

That's a domination with defense. Yes, the US should have scored more, but really, they didn't need to, because China wasn't going to score. China, which had gotten that far with generally precise passing, was *shattered* by the US offense and midfield pressure. They literally could do nothing but bunker down, bomb the ball away, and pray that the shots wouldn't go in.

This was, by far, the best game the USWNT has played all year, and if the USWNT can play like that Tuesday, Germany will have it hands, err, feet full.

Now, can you completely dominate a game offensively and lose? Yes, you can. If France could have finished off those attacks, this game wasn't even close. But despite all those quality attacks, they couldn't get it in the net, which meant when they made the mistake and gave up the penalty, they let Germany back into the game -- and they went home.

But this map doesn't bode well for Germany. 120 minutes, and a total of 1 expected goal. They have to do better than that, and while there are still a lot of very valid question about the front of the USWNT, the back line is the best there is right now. The German offense has to step it up if they're going to have a chance at advancing. France damn near shut them down, and France was a much weaker defense. If Germany's attack is like that again, Germany's xG map is going to look more like China's, and that doesn't bode well for their hopes.

Finally. The US and Germany have met three times before, twice in the Semifinals, once in the quarters. 2-1 in favor of the US. But the real important fact -- each time, the winner of that match went on and won the World Cup.
posted by eriko at 5:18 PM on June 28, 2015 [2 favorites]


Looks like Bardsley will be able to play. They seem to be calling it swelling due to an allergic reaction.

Gee, I wonder what could have gotten into her eye.
posted by cacofonie at 12:38 PM on June 29, 2015


Germany 2 - USA 1 -> USA has played well but hasn't truly been tested yet.
Japan 2 - England 0 -> How do you say "Tiki-Taka" in Japanese, anyways?
posted by cacofonie at 12:44 PM on June 29, 2015


Gee, I wonder what could have gotten into her eye.

What many wise people said on twitter -- if it had been a bit of the turf, the very first thing that trainer would have done would have been to flush her eye out with the eyewash kit they all carry, because getting things in your eye is a thing that happens on both turf and grass fields.

The trainer *did not* do that.

We're still wondering what caused it, but it's just as likely to be something to relive pain or muscle soreness, or even sunscreen, as the turf. Yes, turf sucks, but it is not the cause of *all* the problems in this world cup. (France didn't lose because of the seeding. France lost because they didn't hit an open net. Twice. Oh, and they gave up that penalty late in regulation.)

But, for England's sake, that's good news that it looks like she'll play, but the reports of a black eye don't really jibe with a allergic reaction. Then again, maybe they were just wrong.
posted by eriko at 2:10 PM on June 29, 2015


USA 1 - Germany 0
Japan 2 - England 1
posted by Tsuga at 3:32 PM on June 29, 2015


Good Morning!

There is but one match today. Then again, at this point, they're all going to mean something.

Today, we say goodbye to Montreal, et nous disons au revoir à Montréal.


30 June 2015: Semifinal #1

USA vs. Germany, 18:00 CDT, Olympic Stadium, Montreal

Broadcast: USA=FOX, UK=BBC3, SIRI=94, XM=94


The World's #1 ranked team vs. the World's #2 ranked team. The highest scoring team in the tournament vs. the best defense in the tournament. The unstoppable force vs. the unmovable wall. Arguably, an early version of the final England and Japan yell HEY but I did say arguably. Whenever these two have faced each other in the tournament, the winner goes on and wins it all.

The US, normally known for POWER!!!!!!, has a sputtering offense and a defense second to none. Germany, the unstoppable machine, went up against France and was found badly wanting, saved only by the deft hands of Nadine Angerer on the very last kick from the spot after 120 desperate minutes, a handball gift and two major missed opportunities from France. What was expected to be a masterclass from Frau Mannschaft ended up being a 1-1 a.e.t. 5-4 nail biter and (had France finished up what they started) could easily have been a French walkover.

The V8 American Big Block is down on power. The German Precision Machine is misfiring. Both two time champions. Can either get back in form?
posted by eriko at 4:59 AM on June 30, 2015 [2 favorites]


Yes. America will.
posted by Drinky Die at 5:01 AM on June 30, 2015


USA 1-0 GER aet

I'm banking on GER wearing down.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 8:57 AM on June 30, 2015


USA 0-0 GER (USA wins on PKs)
posted by Rock Steady at 11:18 AM on June 30, 2015


Fuck it, I'm never right anyway, so I might as well go big.

7-1. USA victory.
posted by Kattullus at 12:11 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


USA 1-0 GER

Probably wrong, but I have to let wishes be horses here.
posted by languagehat at 12:48 PM on June 30, 2015


Kattullus. I realize you are being outrageously bold in your prediction, but come on, you are kind of embarrassing yourself here. There is no way in a million years that they are getting one past Hope Solo.

I BELIEVE &c.
posted by Rock Steady at 1:31 PM on June 30, 2015 [3 favorites]


And we are....underway!
posted by eriko at 4:00 PM on June 30, 2015


Allied victories tonight and tomorrow.
War of 1812 rematch in the final.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 4:00 PM on June 30, 2015


Damn, Germany's looking good.
posted by languagehat at 4:05 PM on June 30, 2015


USA 0-0 GER (USA wins on PKs)

You're going to bet against Germany on penalties? Have you thought that through?

Germany already ahead on national anthems of course.
posted by biffa at 4:06 PM on June 30, 2015


So close...
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 4:07 PM on June 30, 2015


I don't think either team was ready for what they're seeing....
posted by eriko at 4:09 PM on June 30, 2015


Heath, what do you mean "how was that a foul?" Lucky for a warning there.
posted by eriko at 4:10 PM on June 30, 2015


Man, we gotta finish on these big chances.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 4:10 PM on June 30, 2015


Carli, Carli, buy her dinner first!
posted by eriko at 4:12 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


Much snappier start by Germany than their lethargic play against France. Ref continues to be terrible, and I'd love a little less arm wrestling between the players...
posted by TwoStride at 4:13 PM on June 30, 2015


FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
posted by robocop is bleeding at 4:14 PM on June 30, 2015


DAMMIT
posted by languagehat at 4:14 PM on June 30, 2015


I do have to hand it to the play by play guy. He is pronouncing Célia Šašić name so it doesn't sound like "Sausage."
posted by eriko at 4:15 PM on June 30, 2015


MORGAN! THAT WAS YOURS!
posted by eriko at 4:15 PM on June 30, 2015


C'mon, Alex, be patient. When it's one on one against the German goalie DON'T SHOOT IN ANGERER.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 4:16 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


GAH MORGAN! When will you start playing like you mean it?!?!
posted by weeyin at 4:17 PM on June 30, 2015


I'm watching this in Norwegian, of which I speak not a word, the commentator reminds me of Greedo "blabla blabla So-lo".

Ow, she shit the bed there. Germany need to slow this down though.
posted by biffa at 4:17 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


Well, ref, that was the tricky-tackiest of the ticky-tac fouls I've ever seen. Even Germany wonders how they were fouled!
posted by eriko at 4:18 PM on June 30, 2015


I'm watching this in Norwegian
Probably waaaay better than the US broadcast, where one of the announcers sounds like he's from ESPN OCHO with every cliche there is ("this is going to be attacks followed by counter attacks"; "this is mentality versus mentality") and it is painful.
posted by TwoStride at 4:19 PM on June 30, 2015


ALARM!!!!!!
posted by eriko at 4:21 PM on June 30, 2015


Klinsmann lives!
posted by biffa at 4:21 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


Nice, Kreiger!
posted by eriko at 4:21 PM on June 30, 2015


Brilliant analysis -- "The U.S. needs a goal." Where's the Norwegian feed?
posted by languagehat at 4:25 PM on June 30, 2015 [4 favorites]


Cat Whitehill, you were a brilliant player, you need to find the person who told you that you could do color commentary and you need to hurt them badly.

And have a feeling that person was Alexi Lalas.
posted by eriko at 4:26 PM on June 30, 2015 [2 favorites]


Can Angerer actually clear the ball? I noticed that was a huge problem against France--all she ever did was roll it to her left back. Hope Solo can be relied upon to get the ball almost to the other box if USA is having trouble getting through the midfield; Angerer doesn't seem able/willing to help her team that way.
posted by TwoStride at 4:27 PM on June 30, 2015


Man, FOX is good at internal promotion - somehow they got the German coach to model the speacial Throwback Season 2 Dana Scully wardrobe.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 4:28 PM on June 30, 2015


Oh, shit, that was bad.
posted by eriko at 4:28 PM on June 30, 2015


OUCH.
posted by TwoStride at 4:29 PM on June 30, 2015


The German player went slack when they hit. That was a bad hit.
posted by eriko at 4:29 PM on June 30, 2015


Uh-oh.
posted by languagehat at 4:30 PM on June 30, 2015


I can imagine Alexi Lalas sitting in the Dark Back Room of Evil Making trying to decide who he could recruit that would make his commentary actually look competent.
posted by weeyin at 4:30 PM on June 30, 2015 [2 favorites]


Morgan Brian did too!
posted by eriko at 4:30 PM on June 30, 2015


Germany looking feeble on the attack. Player through, only one following up, USA not bothering to pull back, not a good sign.

Meanwhile SO Is trying to remember whether it is Han Solo or Hans Solo. And not just to wind me up.
posted by biffa at 4:30 PM on June 30, 2015


Did he just insinuate that the German players care more about water than their teammate? That's rather uncharitable.
posted by weeyin at 4:31 PM on June 30, 2015


Hands Solo, of course.
posted by eriko at 4:31 PM on June 30, 2015


The look on the German Coach's face is damn near heartbreaking.
posted by eriko at 4:32 PM on June 30, 2015


Professional Foul Yellow there.
posted by eriko at 4:33 PM on June 30, 2015


So does Johnston play all positions now? It's starting to feel like it.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 4:36 PM on June 30, 2015


GAHHH GET IN THE NET!!!
posted by eriko at 4:36 PM on June 30, 2015


This is a helluva game.
posted by languagehat at 4:37 PM on June 30, 2015


SO MANY CHANCES.

The goal's a'comin'!
posted by weeyin at 4:37 PM on June 30, 2015


And yep, another Professional Foul Yellow.
posted by eriko at 4:37 PM on June 30, 2015


I thought she was going to ring up Klingenberg and I was going to be angry.
posted by eriko at 4:39 PM on June 30, 2015


Well, Klingenberg was going with some Professional Flailing of Cleats to Other Player's Midsection, there.
posted by TwoStride at 4:40 PM on June 30, 2015


Me too.
posted by languagehat at 4:40 PM on June 30, 2015


GRAAARGH
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 4:44 PM on June 30, 2015


AAAAAHHHG
posted by languagehat at 4:44 PM on June 30, 2015


Geez, the USA just ran the ball off their own touchline, could they be any less scared? Pity they can't shoot.
posted by biffa at 4:44 PM on June 30, 2015


God damn, we're Francing this.
posted by eriko at 4:44 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


This is going to kill me.
posted by languagehat at 4:44 PM on June 30, 2015


Oh, jeeze, Heath just got rang up on the ad board.

Credit to the German player for helping her there.
posted by eriko at 4:45 PM on June 30, 2015


The announcers keep going on about Germany's 20 goals, but I feel like when 10 of them come against a hopelessly outclassed team... that's not really as impressive a statistic.

Ouch, poor Heath!
posted by TwoStride at 4:45 PM on June 30, 2015


ALARM!!!!!
posted by eriko at 4:46 PM on June 30, 2015


WHAT? NO FUCKING CARD?
posted by eriko at 4:46 PM on June 30, 2015


NO NO NO NO NOT RAPINOE
posted by weeyin at 4:46 PM on June 30, 2015


I smell desperation and sauerkraut, Germany.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 4:49 PM on June 30, 2015


The announcers keep going on about Germany's 20 goals, but I feel like when 10 of them come against a hopelessly outclassed team... that's not really as impressive a statistic.

Ahem. 10 against the Ivory Coast, 4 against Thailand (-7 GD).

Take the 14 out against those two in the group stage, and suddenly....
posted by eriko at 4:50 PM on June 30, 2015


"That HP Sauce coming fast and furious"???? Did I hear that? Am I having a stroke?
posted by robocop is bleeding at 4:55 PM on June 30, 2015 [3 favorites]


Well. I didn't expect that half.

Well, other than one detail, this one's been pretty much in the hands of the US.

But that's what France said.

One thing, though -- the pace this game is moving at definitely favors the US.

But we need to get the Timbit in the basket. Everything else is working, but we're not getting that last bit done. Personally? If we sub forwards, I'd sub out Morgan for Press or Leroux, but NOT Wambach or Rodriguez. We need speed here.

OH GOD SHUT UP LALAS SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

(thank god for mute)

Questions: Is Morgan Brian OK? If there's ANY question, then I'd get O'Hara in there pronto, she played brilliantly against China.

Keep up the pressure, Germany is not handling it well. Do *NOT* fall for the temptation of Wambach, this game is going to be won with speed and energy. Keep doing what we're doing -- it's working, mostly, we just need to work on the finish.
posted by eriko at 4:58 PM on June 30, 2015


4 against Thailand (-7 GD).
Ah yes, somehow I'd forgotten about the poor other punching bag of the tournament!
posted by TwoStride at 4:59 PM on June 30, 2015


God, I will not miss this fucking Fiat commercial.
posted by eriko at 5:00 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


I thought Rodriguez played well in the last match. Wambach should not leave the bench AT ALL, though!
posted by TwoStride at 5:00 PM on June 30, 2015


Hey, Abby, fucking tell us that we fucking need a fucking goal. It fucking worked last fucking match!
posted by eriko at 5:03 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


"We've secretly replaced our second half commentary with random Ralph Wiggum quotes. Let's see if anyone notices."

"..."

"..."

"This is getting awkward."
posted by robocop is bleeding at 5:07 PM on June 30, 2015


Angry Angerer is Angry
posted by eriko at 5:07 PM on June 30, 2015


SO CLOSE
posted by languagehat at 5:07 PM on June 30, 2015


Bah, straight to Angerer.
posted by languagehat at 5:15 PM on June 30, 2015


PENALTY!!!!!!
posted by cacofonie at 5:18 PM on June 30, 2015


WHEW
posted by languagehat at 5:19 PM on June 30, 2015


FUCK
posted by eriko at 5:19 PM on June 30, 2015


OH NO!'
posted by languagehat at 5:19 PM on June 30, 2015


That's as blatant a red card as you could ever get. Madness. Absurd refereeing.
posted by dng at 5:19 PM on June 30, 2015


Please Solo, please.
posted by weeyin at 5:19 PM on June 30, 2015


HOLY COW!
posted by eriko at 5:20 PM on June 30, 2015


OMG CHOKE!
posted by TwoStride at 5:20 PM on June 30, 2015


WAMBACHED IT!
posted by eriko at 5:20 PM on June 30, 2015


WIDE!!!!!!
posted by weeyin at 5:20 PM on June 30, 2015


MISSED!!!!
posted by languagehat at 5:20 PM on June 30, 2015


Fuck yeah!
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 5:21 PM on June 30, 2015


BUT I HAD A GOOD SAUSAGE/SASIC PUN READY
posted by robocop is bleeding at 5:21 PM on June 30, 2015


Holy scheisse
posted by Rock Steady at 5:21 PM on June 30, 2015


I'M COMIN', ELIZABETH!!
posted by languagehat at 5:21 PM on June 30, 2015


Wow at Solo's psychological warfare.
posted by Drinky Die at 5:22 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


I don't think I can take much more of this. Can we please score like 5 goals right now?
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 5:23 PM on June 30, 2015


I HATE THIS GAME CAN WE JUST GO TO JAPAN ENGLAND NOW?
posted by eriko at 5:24 PM on June 30, 2015


Rapinoe should get a Purple Heart for this game.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 5:25 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


GOD DAMN THIS GAME I HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT
posted by eriko at 5:26 PM on June 30, 2015


PENATLY!
posted by eriko at 5:27 PM on June 30, 2015


Penatly?
posted by eriko at 5:27 PM on June 30, 2015


Luuuuccckkkyyyyyy
posted by robocop is bleeding at 5:28 PM on June 30, 2015


A) That's not how you spell that and B) I don't think that was in the box.
posted by eriko at 5:28 PM on June 30, 2015


That was outside the box!!!!!
posted by cacofonie at 5:28 PM on June 30, 2015


She's going to miss too, isn't she?
posted by eriko at 5:28 PM on June 30, 2015


I WAS WRONG!
posted by eriko at 5:29 PM on June 30, 2015


AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! GOALLLLL!!!!!!! :D :D :D
posted by weeyin at 5:29 PM on June 30, 2015


GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (cont on pg. 2)
posted by eriko at 5:29 PM on June 30, 2015


OMG gift from the refs.
posted by TwoStride at 5:29 PM on June 30, 2015


YYYYEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 5:29 PM on June 30, 2015


WOOOOOO!!!!!!!
posted by languagehat at 5:30 PM on June 30, 2015


CALL THE BUS DRIVER TOOT TOOT
posted by robocop is bleeding at 5:30 PM on June 30, 2015


GoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooaaaal!
posted by Rock Steady at 5:30 PM on June 30, 2015


Boo. Ref goal.
posted by cacofonie at 5:31 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


CALL THE BUS DRIVER TOOT TOOT

SHUT YOUR MOUTH.

MORE MORE MORE! NEVER STOP.

This is GERMANY.
posted by eriko at 5:31 PM on June 30, 2015


Stay solid, U.S. This is not the time to give up a counter goal.
posted by weeyin at 5:31 PM on June 30, 2015


TIME GO FASTER
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 5:33 PM on June 30, 2015 [2 favorites]


Boo. Ref goal.

Actually, with you there. It was. I want the US to win, but yeah.

But it's hard to make those calls when they're moving fast and they're close to the box.
posted by eriko at 5:33 PM on June 30, 2015


"Stay Cool" fan is my favorite fan in the world right now.
posted by eriko at 5:34 PM on June 30, 2015


O'HARA!
posted by eriko at 5:34 PM on June 30, 2015


O'HARA means Family!

wait.
posted by eriko at 5:34 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


Good, O'Hara's coming in.
posted by languagehat at 5:36 PM on June 30, 2015


Less holding hands in air trying to get a foul call, more playing dammit!
posted by eriko at 5:36 PM on June 30, 2015


Keep shooting from 30 meters out, Germany!
posted by eriko at 5:37 PM on June 30, 2015


This clock is going to be cow-shaped we will milk it so hard.
posted by Rock Steady at 5:38 PM on June 30, 2015


Yes, let's bring in the *least* holding forward we have. BRILLIANT!
posted by eriko at 5:38 PM on June 30, 2015


Oh dear, not Wambach!
posted by TwoStride at 5:39 PM on June 30, 2015


FOR RAPINOE! DIE IN A FIRE, ELLIS!
posted by eriko at 5:39 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


That was a...weird...slo mo shot of solo with the water bottle.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 5:39 PM on June 30, 2015 [2 favorites]


Thank you for a brilliant game, Rapinoe.
posted by weeyin at 5:40 PM on June 30, 2015 [3 favorites]


Yes, actually. Thank you, weeyin, for that reminder.

Thank you, Megan Rapinoe. Another stellar effort. Thank you again.
posted by eriko at 5:41 PM on June 30, 2015


O'HARA MEANS GOOOOOOOOOAAAALLLLL!!!!!
posted by eriko at 5:44 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


GOAL!
posted by robocop is bleeding at 5:44 PM on June 30, 2015


YEEESSSSSS!!!!
posted by weeyin at 5:44 PM on June 30, 2015


Fuck Yeah!
posted by Rock Steady at 5:44 PM on June 30, 2015


WAHOOOO!!
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 5:44 PM on June 30, 2015


2-0!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by languagehat at 5:44 PM on June 30, 2015


That was BEAUTIFUL!
posted by eriko at 5:45 PM on June 30, 2015


Makes me feel better about the slightly shady previous goal.
posted by Drinky Die at 5:45 PM on June 30, 2015


Nice! Was that Morgan with the assist? Fancy footwork!
posted by cacofonie at 5:46 PM on June 30, 2015


Dos a cero
posted by Rock Steady at 5:46 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


zwei auf Null!
posted by eriko at 5:47 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


Cut out that jiggery-pokery in the box! Applesauce.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 5:47 PM on June 30, 2015


Loyd to O'Hara. This was always a game that needed the midfield to step up and make those goals and that was exactly how it needed to be done. Woohoo!
posted by weeyin at 5:48 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


I BELEIVE THAT WE CAN PASS!
posted by eriko at 5:49 PM on June 30, 2015


Holy shit, Angerer CAN clear the ball. WHY HASN'T SHE TRIED THAT BEFORE?
posted by TwoStride at 5:49 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


Look how happy Solo looks!
posted by languagehat at 5:52 PM on June 30, 2015


Jill Ellis sitting on the sidelines trying to hide that delighted smile heh.
posted by weeyin at 5:52 PM on June 30, 2015


Leroux get a victory cap.
posted by eriko at 5:53 PM on June 30, 2015


Peep peep PEEP!
posted by eriko at 5:54 PM on June 30, 2015


USA 2-0 GER

Holy shit.

Recap in a moment.
posted by eriko at 5:54 PM on June 30, 2015


Win!
posted by languagehat at 5:54 PM on June 30, 2015


*exhale*
posted by weeyin at 5:54 PM on June 30, 2015


I hope that England wins tomorrow and through a giant mix up, both teams wear their white kits to the final.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 5:56 PM on June 30, 2015 [3 favorites]


Question: why put Leroux in like that at the very end?
posted by cacofonie at 5:56 PM on June 30, 2015


I BELIEVE THAT WE JUST WON!
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 5:56 PM on June 30, 2015 [2 favorites]


cacofonie :taking time off the clock.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 5:57 PM on June 30, 2015


There were questions about the USWNT this whole tournament, but there are no questions now -- the US flat outplayed Germany the entire match. Yes, one goal was on a bad PK call, but the other was a straight out clean goal -- and Germany could have tied it, and shanked a PK.

This was Julie Johnston's worst match, and she was *still* amazing. She's the US Tourney MVP, without a doubt.

Person of the match? Gotta give it to Carli Lloyd, in my opinion. Scored one on the PK, fed O'Hara on the other, was a force the entire game. She's gotten better as the tournament has gone on. Nicely done, Ms. Lloyd.

So. Finalist #1: USA.

The US will play on Sunday, July 5th in Vancouver, in the title match.

Germany will play on Saturday, July 4th, in Edmonton, in the third place game.

And, yes -- it is very possible we are going to have a rematch of the 2011 final. We shall see.

And, again. Holy. Shit.
posted by eriko at 6:04 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


COME ON,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, OUR GIRLS
posted by robocop is bleeding at 6:06 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


For the last twenty minutes my tv reception went to shit and everything looked like this forever. It was pretty terrifying.
posted by dng at 6:11 PM on June 30, 2015


Now I'm gonna catch up on a DVRd Philly Union game.


I have a feeling it's going to be a slightly less exhilarating viewing experience.
posted by Drinky Die at 6:12 PM on June 30, 2015


2-0!!!!!!!!!!!

Somebody pointed out that you never want to let the US get to that score. It's our magic score.

And NOBODY picked the US to get more than 1 goal. Except Kattullus, who picked 7. That's a little...long.

So, we won and EVERYBODY LOST THAT ONE!

WOOOOOOOO! WE ALL SUCK! WOOOOOOO!
posted by eriko at 6:28 PM on June 30, 2015


I'm going ENGLAND 7-1 JAPAN! It didn't work for Kattullus, and it won't work for me!!!!
posted by eriko at 6:29 PM on June 30, 2015 [3 favorites]


Put Carli Lloyd on the $10 bill
posted by The Gooch at 6:32 PM on June 30, 2015 [2 favorites]


For those of you who are reading the thread but didn't watch the game (or want to re-live it), here's FIFA's paltry 2 minute highlight reel. I'm glad I didn't watch this live because I don't think I could have taken that heart-stopping penalty kick miss. If anyone else has a link to a longer highlight reel please post.

(Also, I'm irritated that some wise-ass at FIFA thought that the Top 10 moments highlight reel should include random audience shots, warm up exercises, and falling over fences. What, you couldn't find enough football to highlight? Ass.)
posted by RedOrGreen at 7:26 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


I hope that England wins tomorrow and through a giant mix up, both teams wear their white kits to the final.

You know...I just realized something. Does England have another kit? I can't recall seeing them in anything but white. I can't say I've seen every match, true.
posted by eriko at 8:24 PM on June 30, 2015


I suppose now is the time for the WWII jokes, what with Germany beating France, then the US beating Germany then turning around to beat Japan?
posted by cacofonie at 8:48 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


OR the glorious possibility of an England - US game on Independance Day Weekend?
posted by cacofonie at 8:49 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


And NOBODY picked the US to get more than 1 goal. Except Kattullus, who picked 7. That's a little...long.

But they should get this one for sheer optimism. 2 might as well have been 7 for most of us.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 9:39 PM on June 30, 2015 [3 favorites]


eriko: And NOBODY picked the US to get more than 1 goal. Except Kattullus, who picked 7. That's a little...long.

I'll note that while I didn't win this battle, in the Copa, Argentina beat Paraguay 6-1, so I won a moral victory. Not the only time in my life I've resembled Stupendous Man.
posted by Kattullus at 12:56 AM on July 1, 2015


Good morning!

I'm in an airport lounge! I didn't get a lot of sleep last night for some reason.

And we still have three games to go, and they just get more important as we go.

Because it takes two to Watusi, we need to find another Watusi-ee. And that, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, is what tonight is all about. So, keep your head, arms, hands, legs and feet inside the vehicle at all times, because tonight we have, in a loser goes nowhere match (literally!)


1 July 2015: Semifinal #2

England vs. Japan, 18:00 CDT, Commonwealth Stadium, Edmonton

Broadcast: US=FS1, UK=BBC1, BBC3, BBC5Live, Siri=94, XM=94


Japan: Neat, clean, tidy, seems to make that one mistake that's going to cost them the match then turns around and wins the game. Also, the defending World Cup champions, ranked #4 in the world. Currently the favorites in this match.

England: #6 in the world, which was consider a stretch by many. And yet -- almost beat France, almost won the group, and now in the Semifinal. Plays hard, has gotten farther than anyone thought they could, won games by grit, energy, and most importantly, by making teams pay for mistakes. You know, like Japan seems to make.

I think this game is not the blowout many are thinking it will be. If the 2011 Japan team shows up? Yeah, that would be Japan in a blowout -- but that was a younger team. This Japan is a wiser, but slower team, but can they handle England's energy, and the fact that England, having gotten much farther than they'd ever dreamed they can get, can almost taste that final? Japan has the precision -- many of the prettiest goals of the tournament have been made by the Japanese. England has the drive, they will bomb in and get the ball in the net, somehow, some way, England expects to score.

We find out tonight. The winner goes to Vancouver and meets the United States for the title match. The loser stays here and plays Germany for third place. Yes, this time, the loser does not go home. If Japan wins, we have a rematch of the 2011 Final. If England wins, we have a rematch for the War of 1812.

See you then!
posted by eriko at 4:21 AM on July 1, 2015


To continue my streak of inaccuracy, I say
ENG 1 - 3 JPN

I'd really love to see a US - England final though. There would be a lot of good-natured shit-talking between the fanbases.
posted by Rock Steady at 5:37 AM on July 1, 2015


The best part is England discovering they have a women's national team. #ENGWNT heh.
posted by eriko at 6:10 AM on July 1, 2015


So, I was looking at that Julie Johnston yellow card/penalty again.

The ref was right -- that was a penalty and a yellow, not a red for DOGSO. She made several mistakes, but she got that one right.

Popp didn't have an obvious goal scoring opportunity. She didn't have control over the ball, which is one of the keys to an "obvious" goal scoring opportunity. She wasn't about to get control of the ball. She never even touched the ball until after JJ touched it, and even then, it was a long reach of the leg for her to even get it because of the fact that the ball was bouncing wildly.

If Popp had brought the ball into the box and JJ pulled her from behind like that? Yes, red card, without a doubt. But she didn't. They were both going for a loose ball. That's not an "obvious goal scoring opportunity," that's a foul in a race for a ball, and in every referee guide there is, a foul in a race for a ball is a clear example of not DOGSO.

The ref was right to A) give the penalty and B) give the yellow as a foul for taking down what could have become a breakaway, and C) not giving a red. There wasn't an obvious goal there. Compare to Alex Morgan getting taken down by the Columbian goalkeeper in the round of 16. If she's not fouled there, she scores without any doubt, she has control of the ball, the ball is heading on goal, there's only the GK between her and goal, the ball is behind the GK. That's a DOGSO. Handball in the goal? That's a dogs. GK catching the ball outside the box on a breakaway because they forgot where the box was? That's DOGSO.

Here? The ball isn't heading into the goal, nobody has control, though Popp is closer to it, and there's a GK between the ball and goal. Not DOGSO. Yes, a FOX commentator called it a clear red card, which I submit to you as more proof that it was not!

Now, the ref did error on the Colombian GK red card in granting a penalty kick, because that foul occurred outside the box. It was still a red card for DOGSO, but it should have been a DFK just outside, not a PK.

On the US PK last night? That's a harder call -- a shove in the back foul is a foul as long as you are shoving. If the hands were on the back at any point over the line, it was a foul in the box and a PK was the correct call, and we don't have an angle that clearly shows that. However, I think that this was a miss -- that this should have also been a DFK just outside the box, not a PK.

But, to go back to my NFL example above -- that call also rates a support. The ref on the pitch at a distance is looking at an angle to the box that makes it very difficult to see exactly over the box. If you are within half a meter/a foot of the box, don't foul -- the ref is likely to call you in the box, because if they're any distance away, it's going to look like you are in the box to them!

Cameras above the pitch can see that you're not, but a ref on the field cannot -- it's a simple matter of angles. You want camera technology, this is one where I think a few fixed cameras and a 5th ref watching them could make a huge difference when the on field ref could ask 'Was that in the box at the time of the foul?" Personally, I'd make sure that if the 5th ref dithers, I'd say "Okay, not in the box" and call the DFK just outside.

Of course, you could only use that tech at the highest levels -- the cost is too high.

I think this ref did a credible job, if not stellar, job last night. She kept the game under control, she got the tough decisions right, and most of what she got wrong was wrong in ways you can understand why she got wrong.
posted by eriko at 8:21 AM on July 1, 2015 [4 favorites]


eriko: "But, to go back to my NFL example above -- that call also rates a support."

I actually remembered that analogy while watching the replays of that call and thought "This is one of those 'support' calls like eriko was talking about." Technically probably a bad call, but impossible to hold the ref to such a high standard.
posted by Rock Steady at 9:14 AM on July 1, 2015


I know AUS went out on a tough beat against JPN, but Lisa De Vanna could well end up the only woman who managed a goal against the U.S. this whole tournament. That's gotta be heartening, at least, right?
posted by Navelgazer at 10:10 AM on July 1, 2015


We could get her a shirt.

Sweden Couldn't
Nigeria Couldn't
Colombia Couldn't
China Couldn't
Germany Couldn't
I did.

Obviously even better if we blank the next team too.
posted by eriko at 10:35 AM on July 1, 2015 [1 favorite]


ENG 1-2 JPN

England will continue to surprise, but Japan will rally.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 11:56 AM on July 1, 2015


If I'm making a wild-ass guess, ENG-JPN 1-1, Japan taking it in the shootout.
posted by Navelgazer at 1:02 PM on July 1, 2015


I'm going to be patriotic and suggest that England will run away with this game and perform smashingly.
posted by Thing at 3:41 PM on July 1, 2015


Japan's national anthem isn't very...anthemy.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 3:57 PM on July 1, 2015


Not quite the same crowd tonight. Guess England and Japan are a bit further away than the U.S. or Canada.
posted by eriko at 3:57 PM on July 1, 2015


Why does this cheese
From ancient time
Moulder in England's icebox still?
posted by eriko at 4:00 PM on July 1, 2015


That was dangerous!
posted by languagehat at 4:22 PM on July 1, 2015


That, however, was horrible. Lovely popup, out of play.
posted by eriko at 4:28 PM on July 1, 2015


Penalty!!
posted by languagehat at 4:31 PM on July 1, 2015


Look, another supportable out of the box PK!
posted by eriko at 4:31 PM on July 1, 2015


Goal.
posted by eriko at 4:32 PM on July 1, 2015


And it's 1-0.
posted by languagehat at 4:33 PM on July 1, 2015


That's fair I guess.
posted by Thing at 4:34 PM on July 1, 2015


Anyone else think that run up by the kicker was against the rules? Looked to me that she stopped twice.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 4:34 PM on July 1, 2015


As long as she never went backwards, legal.
posted by eriko at 4:35 PM on July 1, 2015


Keep driving, England. You're not done yet.
posted by eriko at 4:38 PM on July 1, 2015


Penalty back!
posted by eriko at 4:39 PM on July 1, 2015


Keep diving, England.
posted by languagehat at 4:40 PM on July 1, 2015 [1 favorite]


On who, I don't know, but there you go.
posted by eriko at 4:40 PM on July 1, 2015


Another pretty terrible decision. But a lovely one, I suppose.
posted by dng at 4:40 PM on July 1, 2015


Goal!!!
posted by eriko at 4:40 PM on July 1, 2015


Tied!
posted by languagehat at 4:40 PM on July 1, 2015


It wasn't a dive, but it wasn't a foul either.

Anyway, I suppose the game's back to what it was.
posted by Thing at 4:42 PM on July 1, 2015


Two penalties = no stoppage time. I don't understand this new math.
posted by eriko at 4:46 PM on July 1, 2015


Guardian liveblog agrees with me, for what it's worth.
posted by languagehat at 4:47 PM on July 1, 2015


What, that it's tied?

(I keed, I keed)
posted by eriko at 4:48 PM on July 1, 2015


Slow mo shows that Ogimi was stepping on Houghton's ankle, not pulling her back. It was a foul after all.
posted by Thing at 4:51 PM on July 1, 2015


Huh, I stand corrected.
posted by languagehat at 4:56 PM on July 1, 2015


But the first penalty? Nope.
posted by eriko at 4:59 PM on July 1, 2015


In fairness it was incredibly hard to see the Ogimi foul. The BBC commentators suggested pulling, but nobody could see where or how. I certainly couldn't see it.
posted by Thing at 5:02 PM on July 1, 2015


Well, crap. Storm cell is eating sat signal.
posted by eriko at 5:09 PM on July 1, 2015


Frankly, I can't see the U.S. having much trouble with either of these teams...
posted by languagehat at 5:14 PM on July 1, 2015


Don't jinx it!
posted by mandanza at 5:20 PM on July 1, 2015


Two good England strikes lately. Looking good.
posted by Thing at 5:20 PM on July 1, 2015


Wow, lots of action!
posted by languagehat at 5:21 PM on July 1, 2015


Iwabuchi looks great.
posted by languagehat at 5:29 PM on July 1, 2015


Watching on the laptop. Can't stop me, storms!
posted by eriko at 5:36 PM on July 1, 2015


Everyone looks completely knackered now.
posted by dng at 5:37 PM on July 1, 2015


We're getting to blast and hope.

That's a victory for England, in a way. They've shut down Japan's precision attack.

But now, it's a crapshoot.
posted by eriko at 5:42 PM on July 1, 2015


Oh bloody hell
posted by dng at 5:47 PM on July 1, 2015


Oh, England.
posted by Huffy Puffy at 5:47 PM on July 1, 2015


Heartbreaking
posted by dng at 5:49 PM on July 1, 2015


Oh noooo
posted by mandanza at 5:49 PM on July 1, 2015


Oh lord no.
posted by eriko at 5:49 PM on July 1, 2015


Somewhere, Frank Lampard shakes his head.
posted by Huffy Puffy at 5:49 PM on July 1, 2015


Oof
posted by Rock Steady at 5:50 PM on July 1, 2015


Wow.
posted by cacofonie at 5:50 PM on July 1, 2015


Well, that's a moral victory to England, I'm sure of it!
posted by Thing at 5:50 PM on July 1, 2015 [1 favorite]


Ok, I was kind of laughing about England shitting the bed like that, but now that the camera is lingering on that poor girl's devastation, I feel bad.
posted by TwoStride at 5:51 PM on July 1, 2015


Yeah, I can't bear to look at her.
posted by languagehat at 5:52 PM on July 1, 2015


Shocking end to the Japan/England game. o.o

But...I'm ready for some USA revenge on Sunday.
posted by weeyin at 5:53 PM on July 1, 2015


What an absolute horror for England.

JPN 2-1 ENG

Lost on a last minute own goal. Unbelievable. I am just sick for them.

Japan goes to Vancover to meet the USA Sunday for the Final.

England stays here -- the last place they want to be -- to play Germany in the Third place game.

Somedays, the Beautiful Game is not beautiful at all.
posted by eriko at 5:56 PM on July 1, 2015


Awww, Cute British Coach is devastated, too, but doing a wonderful job standing up for his player.
posted by TwoStride at 6:01 PM on July 1, 2015


Cute British Coach calls his players "girls" in interviews instead of "women" or even "ladies" and so even his looks can't save him, for me.
posted by weeyin at 6:04 PM on July 1, 2015


I would say let the WWII jokes begin if we hadn't already started running them into the ground. :P
posted by Drinky Die at 6:04 PM on July 1, 2015


(English coach. No British football team except at Olympics.)
posted by Thing at 6:05 PM on July 1, 2015


He is Welsh, though, so maybe he wouldn't want to be called the English coach either.
posted by dng at 6:15 PM on July 1, 2015


Well that's his problem. It's like saying that Bardsley is the American goalkeeper. Or that the English Premier League is the British Premier League because of Swansea.
posted by Thing at 6:28 PM on July 1, 2015


That was just tragic for England. I feel awful.

JPN-USA will be a great match, though.
posted by Navelgazer at 7:46 PM on July 1, 2015


. It's like saying that Bardsley is the American goalkeeper

It's not though since the coach didn't have to be from the country they represent. He's the England coach not the English coach.
posted by biffa at 11:28 PM on July 1, 2015


BBC - "relive the moment England Women went out with a last minute own goal" - er, no fucking thanks, BBC.

Gutted.
posted by marienbad at 1:57 AM on July 2, 2015


There was a moment at the end of the broadcast where Bassett was sobbing into her coach's arms. One of her teammates was helping to console her, and she made the "bring the medic and quickly" hand gesture that one might make for a torn ligament or broken bone. I'm sure Bassett was close to passing out with some combination of exertion, emotion, and respiratory distress from crying, but seeing that familiar gesture outside of the run of play made you realize just how devastated she was.
posted by Rock Steady at 5:58 AM on July 2, 2015 [2 favorites]


Only England could find a worse way to go out than kicks from the spot.

But still, I have to heap nothing but praise on that team, and Basset tried the right play. That pass connects and Japan probably scores. Yes, it went horribly wrong, but you had to try and break that up, or you were done.

And then there's this. England's defense basically shut Japan down. One penalty, that wasn't, and one misplayed clear, and England falls.

Still, if the US wins, and I certainly expect them to, given how England handled Japan here, to me, England is the team of the Tournament. They were never supposed to come this far, and they damn near, hell, they *should have* been in the finals. But we play the game for a reason, and sometimes, those reasons are cruel.

I honestly think, though, that England can beat Germany Saturday. France almost did. The US did. I think England can. 3rd place may be cold comfort, but for a team that always lost in the QFs?

I said earlier that I was a bit scared of what Australia could become in 2019? I'm downright terrified of the 2019 Lionesses. The USWNT is *seriously* going to have to up its game. The world has changed. This is the last time individual talent is going to matter. Brazil learned that hard. Columbia learned that. We're learning that -- it's only that we have so much that we're still around.

Teams that play as teams are turning the tide, and they're only getting better. And as their nations realize "Holy cow, they can play. They're actually good. This is worth watching" and start supporting them, and more young girls say "i'm going to do that" and more old hands start teaching them, they get better and better.

England may come in 3rd. They may come in 4th. I would not be surprised, come 2019, if they're coming off a Euro championship and sitting on a group seed, and a favorite to win the title.

They went from nothing to a semi-final -- one they were close to winning -- in one cycle. There's no sign that they're slowing down.

If the 2019 final was ENG-AUS? I wouldn't be surprised.

Bear down, USWNT. The easy days are over.
posted by eriko at 7:18 AM on July 2, 2015


And, in better discussions.

We're coming onto the last two games, which means, time to start talking awards!

Golden/Silver/Bronze Ball (Best/2nd/Third best player)
Golden Glove (Best GK)

Best Young Player (under 21)
All-Star Team

The Golden Boot is basically automatic, based on goals scored. So far.

Golden Boot: Célia Šašić GER (6)
Silver Boot: Anja Mittag GER (5)
Bronze: 8 tied, one active Carli Lloyd USA (3)


I think Hope Solo is currently *not* in the Golden Glove, because she hasn't done anything much!

I think Julie Johnston has a real argument for a Golden Ball slot.

I think the Golden Boot is kind of a joke this year with Germany ringing up the Ivory Coast and Thailand like that. I guess I have to hope for a Carli Lloyd Hat Trick.
posted by eriko at 7:29 AM on July 2, 2015


That pass connects and Japan probably scores. Yes, it went horribly wrong, but you had to try and break that up, or you were done.

Yes, I just caught the highlights (out at Canada Day celebrations yesterday, so I missed the game). Absolutely the right play, just caught the wrong angle and went in. Devastating. Hoping the Lionesses do well against Germany.

And I think the Japan-US final will be an interesting match; hopefully I will have the time to watch it because I really haven't seen much of this tournament, but what I have seen has been some great footy and I expect the final to be the same.
posted by nubs at 10:34 AM on July 2, 2015


GER 2-1 ENG

No own goals.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 7:25 PM on July 3, 2015


Hell, I'll settle for no PKs!
posted by eriko at 8:08 PM on July 3, 2015


Good Morning!

The end is nigh. Four remain. After today, only two.

Today, we say goodbye to Edmonton, maybe the most dramatic city of the tournament. This is where the US was having fits with Colombia until the GK red card early in the 2nd half. This is where Australia almost caught out Japan. This is where England....well, almost took Japan to extra time until the clearance that went horribly wrong.

But today, we have one last game for Edmonton. One of these teams medals. Both go home, because this is the last weekend. It has been a month of dramatic highs and lows. 50 matches played so far. Two remain. Let's meet Match #51!


03 July 2015: Third Place Match

Germany vs. England, 15:00 CDT, Commonwealth Stadium, Edmonton

Broadcast: US=FOX, UK=BBC3, SIRI=95, XM=94


Germany: A walk through their group, both as befitting the #1 ranked team in the world and a team with a favorable draw. Gets Sweden in the round of 16, nominally a tough opponent ranked #5 in the world, but Sweden struggled badly in their group, barely making it to the round of 16, and Germany easily pushes them aside. Germany then gets France in the quarterfinals, and struggles badly, giving up several great chances but manages to hold on, and wins in a dramatic fashion, with a final save by Nadine Angerer in kicks from the spot. Then they meet a resurgent USWNT, having discovered that one striker is better than two, and fall 2-0.

England: Unseeded, they come out of the group second, which actually proves a bit of an advantage in that they don't end up in the side of the bracket with Germany, France and the US. Drawing Norway first, they handle them surprisingly well and move on. A surprise burst of early goals against Canada send the hosts home in the quarterfinals, given England a chance at the finals if they can beat Japan in the semifinals. But, in the most dramatic moment in the tournament so far, with a minute left in stoppage time, a failed clearance results in an own goal and they fall, 2-1, to the defending champs -- a team that they had held to remarkably few quality shots or crosses until that moment.

So: Germany, the favorites at the start, showing a bit of a weakness to a pressing defense, against England, a team that has shown that it has a *very* pressing defense and can shut down the best passing attacks, but hasn't show the ability to score at will, though they can punish you quickly if you make mistakes. England, at this stage, has very little to prove, but a third place medal would still be a great achievement for them. Germany, with two championships and a second place, is looking at this as a missed opportunity regardless, but third is always better than fourth.

Can Germany find a way through? Can England's offense step up to match the defense?

We will find out later today!
posted by eriko at 7:19 AM on July 4, 2015


And, we have the Golden Ball shortlist.

Saori Ariyoshi (Japan),
Lucy Bronze (England),
Amandine Henry (France),
Julie Johnston (USA),
Carli Lloyd (USA),
Aya Miyama (Japan),
Megan Rapinoe (USA),
Celia Šašić (Germany).

I'll put my opinions in a separate comment.
posted by eriko at 7:20 AM on July 4, 2015


In case you're wondering -- 5 out of the 7 times before, the Golden Ball went to a player on the Championship team. The two years that they didn't. In 1999, the US won, Sun Wen of China got the Golden Ball (and shared the Golden Boot). In 2007, Germany won, Marta (Brazil) got the Golden Ball and Golden Boot. In both cases, they were playing for the runner up team.

Okay. I'd eliminate Šašić, because she's scored exactly one goal outside the group stage that wasn't a penalty, and that was against Sweden, and then she had that miss. She had a hat trick against the Ivory Coast, but I wouldn't brag about that. Besides, unless Carli goes absolutely nuts in the final, Šašić is going to get the Golden Boot, but she won't be playing for the runner up team, so I don't think the Golden Boot+Runner Up= Golden Ball example will work here.

I would eliminate Megan Rapinoe, because if you're going to give it to an offensive mid right now, you would give it to Carli Lloyd or Aya Miyama. Carli has more goals, Miyama a higher work rate. Rapinoe does has a certain something when she's on, though. Obviously, if Rapinoe lights it up in the final, that changes.

Lucy Bronze rates a definite must see...if she's prominent today, she's a contender. I don't want to give her the Bronze Ball for about 11 reasons. If England wins today, she's a lock for the Silver, I think. If she scores a couple and they win, she has a real argument for the Gold.

Amandine Henry? I don't see it at all.

Julie Johnston. Really, to me, she's a compelling case for the Golden Ball. Giving a DF the golden ball is rare, but if there's any time you're going to do it, this is the time. Nobody has had an effect on a team like JJ has had on the USWNT. The only problem with this is that arguably Becky Sauerbrunn has been almost as good -- but the reason you give JJ the nod is that you see JJ up forward almost as much as you see her behind. Yes, she made that one mistake against Germany, pulling Popp down, but one mistake in six matches, compared to the number of outright saves she's made? If the USWNT wins in anything like a close game, it's hers.


I'm surprised to see Ariyoshi here -- I'm guessing "Hmm, a defender on a finalist who scored a goal, and we've put a defender on the other finalist here." I don't think she's a contender.

My three as of right now.

JJ
Bronze
Carli Lloyd.

Since all are playing, this could change -- The only one who is really static is Henry, who I don't think is going to get it. In particular, if Miyama scores and Japan wins, she's going to get the Golden Ball, and JJ will fall to Bronze, if she doesn't fall off completely.
posted by eriko at 7:46 AM on July 4, 2015


The other two finalist lists.

Golden Glove (no, not the Baseball one, the Goaltenderkeeper one)

Nadine Angerer (GER)
Ayumi Kaihori (JPN)
Hope Solo (USA)

Young Player Award (Under 21)

Kadeisha Buchanan (CAN)
Ada Hegerberg (NOR)
Tang Jiali (CHN)

Again, my comments below)
posted by eriko at 7:48 AM on July 4, 2015


Glove is easy, IMHO. Angerer. She had a much harder time. Yes, she didn't make the final, but faced a lot more shots and made more saves against tougher teams late.

Solo gets nothing because her back line was too good -- plus that Jedi Mind Trick against Šašić, while good, but that's not good goal keeping, that's good mind games. But seriously, a good back line isn't good goalkeeping.

Kaihori is arguably #2 on the list, but she didn't have to face what Angerer faced. The reason she's on this list is they always put three, and well, she's in the final and Angerer isn't.

I'll admit I'm also saying "give Angerer one last award before she goes." But of the three names on this list? I think she's played the best goal in this tournament.

Young Player? Buchanan was a force for Canada. I don't remember the other two, so I can't automatically say "that's the one", but the fact that I remember Buchanan so vividly is a factor -- she was always on the ball, mainly because she was *always* getting the ball. She was a big factor in why Canada, with a really bad offense, got as far as they did, because she kept a lot of scoring chances against Canada from developing.

Then again, that hair stood out too -- but man, she was like JJ in the "That's my ball. I'll have that ball. THANK YOU BYE!"

Anybody got any highlights on the other two? One of the problems with young player is you often don't even know to look for them.
posted by eriko at 7:57 AM on July 4, 2015


And here we go!
posted by eriko at 1:03 PM on July 4, 2015


It is so weird to see England in red!

How do they decide jersey colors in instances like this? Does the higher-ranked team get to pick?
posted by TwoStride at 1:06 PM on July 4, 2015


Wow, what a digout by Houghton!
posted by eriko at 1:08 PM on July 4, 2015


Wow, what a....unimpressive shot by Šašić.
posted by eriko at 1:09 PM on July 4, 2015


How do they decide jersey colors in instances like this?

In the group stage, a team in each match is defined as the home team, they pick first and the other side picks a contrasting color, then the refs pick a top to contrast with both. In the knockouts, it's by points earned. Germany surely picked first, and picked their white tops, that forced England out of their whites.

And now we know that England does have another kit.
posted by eriko at 1:12 PM on July 4, 2015 [1 favorite]


England is on a bit of run here.
posted by eriko at 1:13 PM on July 4, 2015


Oh, that was a lovely run there.
posted by TwoStride at 1:18 PM on July 4, 2015


Wow, hell of a shot by Dabritz. Watch for her in 2019.
posted by eriko at 1:18 PM on July 4, 2015


There are all these England fans there. WHY AREN'T THEY SINGING?
posted by eriko at 1:20 PM on July 4, 2015


Did I just hear Homer Simpson yell BORING!

Because wow, it sure sounded like it.
posted by eriko at 1:22 PM on July 4, 2015


Even the commentators sound unenthused, and I'm still WTF'ing over their Top Gun reference. Way to roll like it's 1986, commentator!
posted by TwoStride at 1:24 PM on July 4, 2015


i'm not sure exactly what that German player said, but the meaning was perfectly clear.
posted by eriko at 1:26 PM on July 4, 2015


NAILED IT!

Where IT= that cameraman square in the head.
posted by eriko at 1:26 PM on July 4, 2015


Bardlesy: You speak English. The word is "MINE." You yell "MINE" and grab the ball.
posted by eriko at 1:30 PM on July 4, 2015


I do like Bartusiak's throwback 90s World Cup headbanding.
posted by TwoStride at 1:34 PM on July 4, 2015


Man, the crowd has to be thinking "Nice forechecking. If the Oilers did that, we'd make the playoffs!"
posted by eriko at 1:36 PM on July 4, 2015


Ok, seriously, card White for that.
posted by TwoStride at 1:41 PM on July 4, 2015


That needs more than a lecture there, ref!
posted by eriko at 1:41 PM on July 4, 2015


Let's NOT bring in Dr. Joe.
posted by eriko at 1:41 PM on July 4, 2015


Note, aspiring refs out there: if it's a minor in hockey, it's a yellow card in soccer. If it's a major in hockey, straight red.
posted by eriko at 1:42 PM on July 4, 2015


Although I have to say, I agreed with Joe for once (but the whole "Dr. Joe" thing is so ridiculous).
posted by TwoStride at 1:42 PM on July 4, 2015


Well, I'm not going to say that she's angry/disappointed that she didn't get the final and that's why she's not calling the game tight. That's a bit of a reach there. A lot of times, they're told not to call these games tight.

She's *not* calling this game tight at all, true. And it's wrong that they tell the refs to let things go in the finals/3rds. But that's what they do. Because FIFA!
posted by eriko at 1:47 PM on July 4, 2015


I really want Dabritz to score, man. Such good step and effort... just petering out a bit in the final shot so far.
posted by TwoStride at 1:47 PM on July 4, 2015


GOD THE FUCKING FIAT COMMERICAL.

I won't miss this thing, that's for sure.
posted by eriko at 1:48 PM on July 4, 2015


Ok, you're right that Joe's assessment of the ref's mood is ludicrously unprofessional. But calls are maddening because I feel like such inconsistent reffing--and it's been particularly bad this tournament--just adds to the problem of no one taking the women's game as seriously.
posted by TwoStride at 1:51 PM on July 4, 2015


I'm sick of the Alex Morgan/pink headband/Nationwide ad, myself.
posted by TwoStride at 1:55 PM on July 4, 2015


Yeah. FIFA made the call that the Women's game would be referreed by women. I get that -- a good way to build the women's referee corps is experience. But at this level, the very top of the international game, I want the very best referees, period -- and the best way for the women to become good is for them to work with the best. A mixed corp of referees would have both helped build the women's corp by giving them experience and letting them work with the experienced men's corps of referees that has decades of experience at this level.

So, I think that was a mistake, and it has hurt this tournament. I would select the very best of the women's corp for the final, but I think that wouldn't hurt the tournament. There are excellent women's refs. There's just not enough of them for a 52 match international tournament -- one where there a number of games you cannot ref because of bias constraints -- you cannot officiate a game where your home country is playing, and until you have a lot of experience, they don't even want you officiating a game when a team from your confederation is playing.
posted by eriko at 2:03 PM on July 4, 2015 [1 favorite]


One thing I will hand the women's ref corp -- the assistant refs. Overall, they've done an excellent job running the lines and calling offsides. I can only recall a couple of times where they've blown that call either way, and out of this many matches, that's an outstanding job, and calling offsides is tough.

Compare that to the men's game, or heck, any of the top leagues. The AR corps here should be proud of themselves.
posted by eriko at 2:08 PM on July 4, 2015 [1 favorite]


Great point, Eriko. I'd love to see this be a sport that does more to pioneer mixed ref corps--women refs could offiate the men's games just as well. I just want the best in the world, period.
posted by TwoStride at 2:08 PM on July 4, 2015


Oh, hush, commentators, that wasn't a card. It was a foul, then they slipped.
posted by eriko at 2:10 PM on July 4, 2015


NICE save, Bardsley!
posted by eriko at 2:10 PM on July 4, 2015


OMG SO CLOSE from Dabritz!!
posted by TwoStride at 2:10 PM on July 4, 2015


And hell, nice one-time shot as well.
posted by eriko at 2:11 PM on July 4, 2015


Dabritz is going to be a beast in the future.
posted by eriko at 2:12 PM on July 4, 2015 [1 favorite]


What is with that play it to the back corner of England?
posted by eriko at 2:13 PM on July 4, 2015


It's about as creative as Angerer's predictable clears.
posted by TwoStride at 2:15 PM on July 4, 2015


Angerer's Predictable Clears is the name of my next band.
posted by eriko at 2:16 PM on July 4, 2015 [1 favorite]


Germany is starting to take control here. One of these attacks is going to work.
posted by eriko at 2:17 PM on July 4, 2015


You know, this ref is calling all the fouls, she's just not giving any cautions.

I'm wondering, did she accidentally leave the cards at the hotel?
posted by eriko at 2:20 PM on July 4, 2015


Half cross, half shot. It's a Shoss!
posted by eriko at 2:21 PM on July 4, 2015


Surely she could have made herself some cards out of some out of abandoned flags during halftime!
posted by TwoStride at 2:22 PM on July 4, 2015


Okay, she flat missed that handball there.
posted by eriko at 2:23 PM on July 4, 2015


This is getting beyond ridiculous.
posted by TwoStride at 2:24 PM on July 4, 2015


Houghton just plain missed that -- perfectly placed.
posted by eriko at 2:24 PM on July 4, 2015


Augh, Kemme!
posted by TwoStride at 2:26 PM on July 4, 2015


Kemme bends that the other way and it's in.
posted by eriko at 2:27 PM on July 4, 2015


Awww, bye Sasic. But your timing was juuuust a bit off today.
posted by TwoStride at 2:31 PM on July 4, 2015


Wow, someone's midsection must be dying from that block!
posted by TwoStride at 2:33 PM on July 4, 2015


Wow. England had it going there for a minute.
posted by eriko at 2:33 PM on July 4, 2015


Oh, jesus, England! You had the ball behind Angerer!
posted by eriko at 2:34 PM on July 4, 2015


OMG SHE DOES HAVE CARDS!
posted by eriko at 2:35 PM on July 4, 2015


HOLY SHIT FINALLY A CARD!
posted by TwoStride at 2:35 PM on July 4, 2015


That shot ain't working against Angerer.
posted by eriko at 2:36 PM on July 4, 2015


Seriously, ref, you find your card for that??
posted by TwoStride at 2:41 PM on July 4, 2015


and where was that card against Hope Solo last game??
posted by TwoStride at 2:41 PM on July 4, 2015


She could have called an IFK foul for that, actually.

Ask Canada about that.
posted by eriko at 2:43 PM on July 4, 2015


(Though the Canadian GK had been warned repeatedly about time wasting)
posted by eriko at 2:43 PM on July 4, 2015


Ooh, nasty hit there.
posted by eriko at 2:44 PM on July 4, 2015


OUCH. Though it looks like the turf caught Angerer more than contact with Oluko?
posted by TwoStride at 2:45 PM on July 4, 2015


Germany does not want to have Angerer getting hurt here, not with the risk of kicks from the spot coming up.
posted by eriko at 2:45 PM on July 4, 2015


England has great persistence, but their set plays need work.
posted by TwoStride at 2:47 PM on July 4, 2015


Four minutes of bonus fun.
posted by eriko at 2:48 PM on July 4, 2015


Aluko is just screwing up Germany's defense .

Goeßling looks in a bad way.
posted by eriko at 2:50 PM on July 4, 2015


Peep Peep PEEP. EXTRA TIME.
posted by eriko at 2:53 PM on July 4, 2015


Well, now 30 more minutes of hipchecking, reckless fouls, and exciting chaos within the box!
posted by TwoStride at 2:53 PM on July 4, 2015


QUICK MUTE BEFORE THE LALAS SPEAKS!
posted by eriko at 2:53 PM on July 4, 2015 [1 favorite]


Presented without comment.
posted by eriko at 2:54 PM on July 4, 2015 [1 favorite]


Well, now 30 more minutes of hipchecking, reckless fouls, and exciting chaos within the box!

Or as we call it, Playoff hockey!

Except they have better officiating.
posted by eriko at 2:55 PM on July 4, 2015


Ok, I am officially calling TSN out. According to their schedule , this game should be on their main network. Instead, they are showing US-Greece men's basketball and I assume the women's game is happening on TSN2 or some such.

Fucking unacceptable from my standpoint; I can't believe they disappeared the bronze medal game from basic cable in favour of what looks to be a meaningless friendly basketball game. You're the national rights holder for the tournament for fucks sake.

I sent them some nasty emails about their poor coverage of women's hockey during the Olympics (despite not being the rights holder they had live trackers for the men's games but not the women's); perhaps this time I should include FIFA in my email.
posted by nubs at 3:05 PM on July 4, 2015


Yeah, livesoccertv.com shows...

TSN4, TSN 1260 Edmonton, TSN3, RDS

for Canada.
posted by eriko at 3:07 PM on July 4, 2015


Wow, that's quite the headgear for Popp!

Lauderer had such a good chance on that corner, augh.
posted by TwoStride at 3:07 PM on July 4, 2015


And hell, Fox, which hates anything Not 'Merican, has this game on the broadcast network.
posted by eriko at 3:07 PM on July 4, 2015


Good game, Goessling!
posted by TwoStride at 3:08 PM on July 4, 2015


Wow, the boo-birds have come out. What did I miss?

Nice hat, Popp!
posted by eriko at 3:08 PM on July 4, 2015


Bring me the head of Horatio Hornblower, please!
posted by eriko at 3:09 PM on July 4, 2015


Guardian liveblog (at Full-time! Germany 0-0 England):

That was horrendous. There aren’t enough adjectives to fully describe the anti-football shove-fest that we have just witnessed.
posted by languagehat at 3:09 PM on July 4, 2015 [2 favorites]


I like the headgear. Very classy.
posted by PearlRose at 3:10 PM on July 4, 2015


Scott was making a nice move right up until her muscle cramped.
posted by eriko at 3:10 PM on July 4, 2015


Wish I had a mic on the German bench. I'd learn so many German expletives right now.
posted by eriko at 3:11 PM on July 4, 2015


Peep PEEP.

Third half finished!
posted by eriko at 3:13 PM on July 4, 2015


Germany keeps launching these ineffectual long-range shots on England.

V2-rockets just aren't effective!!
posted by cacofonie at 3:13 PM on July 4, 2015 [1 favorite]


Who wants to bet this ref gives a penalty at 119'?
posted by eriko at 3:14 PM on July 4, 2015 [1 favorite]


Okay, I was wrong. 105'
posted by eriko at 3:15 PM on July 4, 2015


OMG! They called something!
posted by PearlRose at 3:16 PM on July 4, 2015


It's a soft foul -- but it's a foul. PK.
posted by eriko at 3:16 PM on July 4, 2015


GOAL England 107' (PEN)
posted by eriko at 3:17 PM on July 4, 2015


OH FFS.

Fitting, to end such an atrociously officiated game.
posted by TwoStride at 3:17 PM on July 4, 2015


Gooooal!
posted by PearlRose at 3:17 PM on July 4, 2015


If TSN3 is the best they can do, then fuck em. Premium HD channel; I do have TSN 2 if I want to kick the kids away from their movie, but good grief it shows a pretty big lack of respect for the product to go to 3.
posted by nubs at 3:17 PM on July 4, 2015


But oh geez, the things that were not called in this game.
posted by PearlRose at 3:18 PM on July 4, 2015


Exactly - that was a foul, that was a fair PK, but there was a bunch that wasn't.
posted by eriko at 3:19 PM on July 4, 2015


God, I hate to see Nadine Angerer's international career end this way.
posted by eriko at 3:21 PM on July 4, 2015


Yup. I want England to win, but really, Germany should have had a PK or two of their own.
posted by PearlRose at 3:21 PM on July 4, 2015


Though I'm happy for England, of course. But man, this ref.
posted by eriko at 3:22 PM on July 4, 2015


This ref should never get another international game again.
posted by TwoStride at 3:23 PM on July 4, 2015


Well, ref got that call right -- it was just outside the box.
posted by eriko at 3:23 PM on July 4, 2015


Germany isn't giving up, though.
posted by eriko at 3:25 PM on July 4, 2015


Schmidt, killing me with that miss!
posted by TwoStride at 3:25 PM on July 4, 2015


Peep Peep PEEP ENG 1-0 GER a.e.t
posted by eriko at 3:31 PM on July 4, 2015


England third place. Best result ever for the side, and a nice recovery after the semifinal disaster.

The ref? Not good. Not good at all.

Germany? Really a disappointment. The #1, anything less than a medal has to be considered a disappointment.

Now there are two.

Tomorrow, it ends. One more match to decide it all.

And our table is that much closer to filled.

3. England (15 pts, +3)
4. Germany (11 pts, +14) (Qualifies for Olympic Women's Tournament)
(eliminated in Quarterfinals)
5. France (10 pts +7) (Qualifies for Olympic Women's Tournament)
6. Canada (8 pts +1)
7. Australia (7 pts +0)
8. China (7 pts +0) (loses on goals for (4 vs. 5))
(eliminated in Round of 16)
9. Brazil (9 pts +3)
10. Norway (7 pts +5)
11. Cameroon (6 pts +5)
12. Colombia (4 pts -1)
13. The Netherlands (4 pts -1) (loses on goals for (3 vs. 4))
14. South Korea (4 pts -4)
15. Switzerland (3 pts +6)
16. Sweden (3 pts -3)
(eliminated in Group Stage)
17. Thailand (3 pts -7)
18. Costa Rica (2 pts -1)
19. New Zealand (2 pts -1) (loses on goals for (2 vs. 3))
20. Spain (1 pt -2)
21. Nigeria (1 pt -3)
22. Mexico (1 pt -6)
23. Ivory Coast (0 pts -13)
24. Ecuador (0 pts -16)

See you, for the last time this tournament, tomorrow!
posted by eriko at 3:37 PM on July 4, 2015


USA 2-0 JPN

Both goals in the second half.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 4:02 PM on July 4, 2015


Germany needs to add speed--France, USA, and England often out-hustled them to loose/mis-hit balls--and someone with the killer instinct for goals.

And more creative building from the back (ahem, Angerer, legend that you are) would help them, too. I look forward to more from Daebritz in the future, though!
posted by TwoStride at 4:14 PM on July 4, 2015


USA 2 - JPN 0.

I saw big red flags the way England shut down Japan. When their technical, accurate passes fail to get through, they get flustered. USA can play that style x 100.
posted by cacofonie at 8:18 PM on July 4, 2015


Good Morning!

On a personal note, it has been an honor and a pleasure guiding you through this edition of the World Cup. It's had triumphs, tragedies, and of course, FIFA. We've had bad calls, like we always do, we've had bad weather, like we've always had, we've had truly mind bending plays and truly horrible ones. And, well, all World Cups have that one moment, good or bad, that marks them forever, and England's fall has, oddly enough, made this tournament one of the great ones. As tragic as it was, everyone will remember it. Every fan watching will remember where they were when that happened. It is now part of the lore of the game, forever.

I hope to see you all in the next big tournaments, which will be the 2016 Olympics for the Women and the 2018 World Cup for the Men. The Women's game continues to grow, and the fact that things like the limited coverage (though it's a lot better this year than 2011!) and the turf are causing such controversy proves the Women's game is growing.

Enough. We have unfinished business.

We began almost exactly a month ago, on June 6th, when Match #1, Canada vs. China, kicked off in Edmonton. Twenty-four teams started, all hoping to be here today. Today, Match #52 will kick off and there are only two teams left. What more needs to be said but the headline?


05 July 2015: Championship Final

United States vs. Japan, 18:00 CDT, BC Place, Vancouver

Broadcast: US=FOX, UK=BBC2,BBC3, SIRI=94, XM=94, CAN=TSN1, CTV, TSN3


This is not an accidental repeat of the 2011 World Cup final. This is, however, a rematch of the 2011 World Cup final. The USWNT, after rough start against Australia, puts them away and then struggles through the group, and then again in the round of 16 until a formation change leads them to possession domination against China and Germany and a trip to the final.

Japan had a easy walk through their group and bracket until they ran into the sleeper. England gave them fits, leaving them 1-1 in stoppage time until a break developed and then disaster struck England as a attempted clearance struck the bar and became an own goal, handing Japan their ticket to the final. England would go on to win the 3rd place game. Aside: Find a picture of Karen Basset with her medal. It'll heal your heart.

Vancouver being just over the border of the US means this will be, for all intents, a home game for the USWNT. One of two things happens tonight. Either Japan joins the United States and Germany as two time winners of the Women's World Cup, or the United States gain the third star.

Regardless, today, it ends. Somehow -- regulation, extra time, penalties. But the 2015 Women's World Cup will end this evening.

One of these two teams will be wearing a silver medal.

One of these two teams will be wearing another star.

See you this evening!
posted by eriko at 4:09 AM on July 5, 2015 [3 favorites]


Hey, all. Was hoping to get some advice ...

I am in the UK. The match starts at midnight here, and I'd like to ... follow it. Somehow. Difficulty level: I have no television license, and I have not been able to find a single sports bar here that closes any later than 1 AM.

Any suggestions? Is there anywhere which will show the match on a delay rather than live? Is anyone doing some kind of live podcast? Perhaps just somewhere with good text commentary as it happens? Or should I just watch for an hour in a pub and then go home?

Any advice welcome!
posted by kyrademon at 5:09 AM on July 5, 2015


You can listen to it on BBC Radio 5 Live. You don't need a television licence to listen to broadcast radio.
posted by Thing at 6:10 AM on July 5, 2015


Great! That sounds like the best plan. Thanks!
posted by kyrademon at 6:36 AM on July 5, 2015


And of course follow it on the Guardian liveblog.
posted by languagehat at 8:19 AM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


US 3-0 JPN

And on a side note, thanks, eriko, for all your hard work keeping this thread active and informative. You're the hands down winner of the Golden Filter!
posted by Tsuga at 9:53 AM on July 5, 2015 [7 favorites]


Damn, I was hoping the final would be at some almost reasonable hour for me, like yesterday's bronze medal game, but no, it starts at two in the morning. Which is a bummer because the last world cup final between these two sides is one of the best games of football I remember watching, certainly the best major international final I've seen since 2000. I'm sort of half hoping my newborn throws a fit starting at about five to two so I can soothe him in my lap while watching the game.

Not actually hoping my newborn son throws a fit in the middle of the night.

Okay maybe a little bit.

posted by Kattullus at 10:42 AM on July 5, 2015


languagehat: And of course follow it on the Guardian liveblog.

You can even read The Guardian's Japanese liveblog.
posted by Kattullus at 12:44 PM on July 5, 2015


WHY DID I NOT FIND THIS THREAD UNTIL TODAY

to whomever it was who broke down the Johnston yellow/PK foul: thank you. I had been very confused about that call and I'm grateful to have it sorted out.

I'll make my score prediction now: 3-1, US. I say we get our standard 2-0 scoreline, rest a little easy, Japan somehow sneaks one by Solo in the second half, and we regroup and slam in a third.
posted by KathrynT at 12:58 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


I think the US will win too. Japan just did not look good against England, and I doubt the US is worse than England.
posted by Thing at 1:56 PM on July 5, 2015


Okay.

For the last time.

Here. We. Go.

PEEP!
posted by eriko at 4:00 PM on July 5, 2015


BOOM!
posted by eriko at 4:03 PM on July 5, 2015


Carli Lloyd making her bid for the Golden ball!
posted by eriko at 4:03 PM on July 5, 2015


Wow!
posted by languagehat at 4:03 PM on July 5, 2015


YES!!
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 4:03 PM on July 5, 2015


Oh, this is going to be a walk over, isn't it?
posted by Thing at 4:04 PM on July 5, 2015


Bury them!
posted by robocop is bleeding at 4:04 PM on July 5, 2015


Lloyd doing what she does best -- get up front and f*^k s## up!
posted by eriko at 4:05 PM on July 5, 2015


DOS A CERO!
posted by eriko at 4:05 PM on July 5, 2015 [2 favorites]


Continue to bury them!
posted by robocop is bleeding at 4:05 PM on July 5, 2015


Whoa. This is going to be brutal.
posted by PearlRose at 4:05 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


HOLY CRAP!!
posted by languagehat at 4:06 PM on July 5, 2015


Lloyd is going for the Golden Ball now!
posted by eriko at 4:06 PM on July 5, 2015


Hell yes!
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 4:06 PM on July 5, 2015


Err, I meant Golden Boot!
posted by eriko at 4:07 PM on July 5, 2015


Are we chanting One More Goal?
posted by eriko at 4:07 PM on July 5, 2015


One More Goal!
posted by languagehat at 4:08 PM on July 5, 2015


There's a stat. Carli Lloyd has scored 5 of the 7 last goals for the US. Has the assist on the other 2.

Sorry, JJ, you just might have lost MVP there.
posted by eriko at 4:10 PM on July 5, 2015


Carli Lloyd! Carli Lloyd!
posted by Thing at 4:10 PM on July 5, 2015


I mean, that's what they're chanting.
posted by Thing at 4:11 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


Ahh, thanks.

I BELIEVE THAT SHE CAN SCORE!
posted by eriko at 4:11 PM on July 5, 2015


HOLIDAY!
posted by eriko at 4:14 PM on July 5, 2015


MORE DIRT!
posted by robocop is bleeding at 4:14 PM on July 5, 2015


This game. Oh my god, this game.
posted by PearlRose at 4:14 PM on July 5, 2015


One timer! You can't stop that.
posted by eriko at 4:15 PM on July 5, 2015


There it is, bam!
posted by languagehat at 4:15 PM on July 5, 2015


Beautiful finish!
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 4:15 PM on July 5, 2015


HAT TRICK LLOYD!
posted by eriko at 4:15 PM on July 5, 2015


Goooooal!
posted by Xavier Xavier at 4:15 PM on July 5, 2015


Well, I guess I will watch 60 Minutes.
posted by ob1quixote at 4:15 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


Wow!!
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 4:15 PM on July 5, 2015


HOLY SHIT
posted by robocop is bleeding at 4:15 PM on July 5, 2015


On preview: Gooooal!
posted by Xavier Xavier at 4:15 PM on July 5, 2015


Caught the keeper off her line and BURN.
posted by eriko at 4:15 PM on July 5, 2015


Carli!!!!
posted by languagehat at 4:15 PM on July 5, 2015


That was a great ball. Well played.
posted by Thing at 4:16 PM on July 5, 2015


ROUT. Complete and utter rout.
posted by eriko at 4:16 PM on July 5, 2015


Hahahahaha!
posted by Thing at 4:16 PM on July 5, 2015


Glad I'm not Japan's goalie!
posted by Blue Jello Elf at 4:16 PM on July 5, 2015


58-0!
posted by Thing at 4:16 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


oh no. I wanted the U.S. to win but I can't deal with another Brazil vs. Germany.
posted by lalex at 4:16 PM on July 5, 2015 [2 favorites]


Carli Lloyd now shares the Golden Boot with Sasic, and almost certainly has won the Golden Ball.
posted by eriko at 4:17 PM on July 5, 2015


Holey moley!
posted by homunculus at 4:17 PM on July 5, 2015


Lloyd missed?

WHAT DARK MAGIC IS THIS?
posted by eriko at 4:18 PM on July 5, 2015


Can my 7-1 prediction from the semi-final be a rollover?
posted by Kattullus at 4:18 PM on July 5, 2015 [4 favorites]


The only way this gets better is if Wambach hauls Sepp Blatter onto the pitch by his tighty-whities. She kneels on him, his face in the astroturf, until the cops come to haul him away.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 4:21 PM on July 5, 2015 [9 favorites]


Listening in car. Had to pull over to post AHHHhHhHhhHhH! USA!
posted by Drinky Die at 4:22 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


I am kind-of anxiety cheering for the Japanese goalie now. Not the team, just the goalie.
posted by Eyebrows McGee at 4:25 PM on July 5, 2015 [3 favorites]


Well, there goes our goal free streak.

That was a nice shot by Onho.
posted by eriko at 4:27 PM on July 5, 2015


The fightback begins!
posted by Thing at 4:28 PM on July 5, 2015


That wasn't just an on-preview gag, above. Lloyd literally scored again in the time it took me to post. Unreal.
posted by Xavier Xavier at 4:28 PM on July 5, 2015


... aaaand JINX.
posted by Xavier Xavier at 4:29 PM on July 5, 2015


That was a nice shot by Onho.

Ogimi.
posted by Thing at 4:31 PM on July 5, 2015


Hope Solo *just* missed the shutout record. Tied it at 540 minutes.
posted by eriko at 4:32 PM on July 5, 2015


Ogimi.

Oops, you're right. Thanks!
posted by eriko at 4:34 PM on July 5, 2015


Well... that's enough excitement for me. 2:30 am, must go to sleep. I hope that this turns into a 7-6 thriller!
posted by Kattullus at 4:37 PM on July 5, 2015


Late to the thread, how's the game going?

That first goal was a thing of beauty. You saw Lloyd streaking in from off screen and just knew she was going to be the target, and it came off perfectly.
posted by Rock Steady at 4:39 PM on July 5, 2015


Wow, Japan two subs in the first half.
posted by eriko at 4:40 PM on July 5, 2015


Yeah, but if you were Japan you would worry that there wasn't going to be a second half at this rate.
posted by Thing at 4:41 PM on July 5, 2015


Peep PEEP!
posted by eriko at 4:46 PM on July 5, 2015


MUST MUTE BEFORE THE LALAS EATS THE BRAIN!
posted by eriko at 4:47 PM on July 5, 2015


Lloyd from half-field as a vine.

eriko: "MUST MUTE BEFORE THE LALAS EATS THE BRAIN!"

The pink-tie guy? That guy has a LOT OF FEELINGS.
posted by Eyebrows McGee at 4:48 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


Got to the pub six minutes late. "Did I miss anything?"
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 4:49 PM on July 5, 2015 [4 favorites]


The Guardian's live blog: "If you had any doubt that Japan produces the world’s best horror films, check out the replays of the first-half. It makes The Ring look like Mary Poppins."
posted by RichardP at 4:49 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


That first goal, the Japanese GK didn't even know what happened. Lloyd came out of nowhere and BAM!

The pink-tie guy? That guy has a LOT OF FEELINGS.

That's the one! ALL THE FEELINGS.
posted by eriko at 4:52 PM on July 5, 2015


That third goal from Lloyd was a massive FU. "Hey, you're way off your line, and the sun is in your eyes! *PUNT*
posted by eriko at 4:53 PM on July 5, 2015


Annnnnd, the damn Fiat commercial. Hopefully the last time I have to see that damn thing.
posted by eriko at 5:00 PM on July 5, 2015


Okay. Here we go.
posted by eriko at 5:02 PM on July 5, 2015


4-2. Games getting dicey.
posted by eriko at 5:08 PM on July 5, 2015


Shit.
posted by languagehat at 5:09 PM on July 5, 2015


JJ own goal, no less.
posted by eriko at 5:09 PM on July 5, 2015


Well damn. Did not expect that.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 5:09 PM on July 5, 2015


Nerves.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 5:09 PM on July 5, 2015


Well that's what I get for asking for a fifth American goal without being more specific.
posted by Xavier Xavier at 5:10 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


GOT THAT BACK FAST!
posted by eriko at 5:11 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


Welp, there goes that joke.
posted by Xavier Xavier at 5:11 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


Is that better, Xavier?
posted by robocop is bleeding at 5:11 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


HEATH!
posted by eriko at 5:11 PM on July 5, 2015


Bam
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 5:12 PM on July 5, 2015


Ref about punched a player calling that foul.
posted by eriko at 5:14 PM on July 5, 2015


I leave the room for ONE MINUTE and I miss a goal!
posted by languagehat at 5:15 PM on July 5, 2015


Lucky! You could have missed two!
posted by Thing at 5:16 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


HDTV gives us the slow-motion glory of bouncing celebratory ponytails.

(I am obsessed with women's soccer hair, since they all look like real-woman hair, especially real-woman sweaty hair, and this is so unusual on television that I just can't get enough of it. Undercuts! Pixie cuts! Bobs! French braids! Ponytails! Ponytails with supplemental hairbands and pins! High ponys! Low ponys! Buns! Messy bangs! Sweat curls! Highlights! Lowlights! Grey roots! LOOOOOOVE.)
posted by Eyebrows McGee at 5:16 PM on July 5, 2015 [7 favorites]


Well, Japan is out of subs. US has not subbed out...but rumors of O'hara are afoot!
posted by eriko at 5:16 PM on July 5, 2015


Rapinoe off, O'hara on.

O'HARA MEANS GOALS!
posted by eriko at 5:17 PM on July 5, 2015


Yay, here comes O'Hara!
posted by languagehat at 5:17 PM on July 5, 2015


Morgan is just not on, hasn't been all tournament.
posted by eriko at 5:20 PM on July 5, 2015


Close!
posted by languagehat at 5:20 PM on July 5, 2015


That's what being off the field that long does to you -- not her fault, she was injured.
posted by eriko at 5:20 PM on July 5, 2015


Japan gave up three goals before this game. The US gave up one.

They've given up seven so far.
posted by eriko at 5:22 PM on July 5, 2015


I think they said the WWC final record was five.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 5:27 PM on July 5, 2015


Well, you know this sub was going to happen.
posted by eriko at 5:35 PM on July 5, 2015


Heck, the Japanese players are shaking her hand.
posted by eriko at 5:36 PM on July 5, 2015


The US is really just icing the puck right now.
posted by eriko at 5:38 PM on July 5, 2015


Yep. Tactical Foul, and no, there is no way that was DOGSO even if there wasn't another player there, not at that distance, silly commentator.
posted by eriko at 5:39 PM on July 5, 2015


Rampone in. Yes!
posted by eriko at 5:42 PM on July 5, 2015


Do yellows in a final carry over? What to?
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 5:43 PM on July 5, 2015


Nice cross!
posted by languagehat at 5:48 PM on July 5, 2015


I
I Believe
I Believe That
I Believe That We
I Believe That We Have
I Believe That We Have Won!
★★★
posted by eriko at 5:50 PM on July 5, 2015 [4 favorites]


Guess international shipping time means it takes an extra day for the Fourth of July to arrive in Canada.
posted by Eyebrows McGee at 5:50 PM on July 5, 2015


What a game!
posted by languagehat at 5:50 PM on July 5, 2015


I rate this game three stars.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 5:51 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


What a tournament! What a game! Woo hoo! U!S!A!
posted by Rock Steady at 5:51 PM on July 5, 2015


Yay.
posted by kyrademon at 5:51 PM on July 5, 2015


USA 5-2 JPN

And so it ends. The United States wins their third Women's World Cup

Carli Lloyd shares Golden Boot with Celia Sasic, must certainly win the Golden Ball.
posted by eriko at 5:51 PM on July 5, 2015


I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE THE CHAMPS!
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 5:51 PM on July 5, 2015


🏆
posted by Xavier Xavier at 5:52 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


The final table:

1. United States (16 pts. +8)
2. Japan (18 pts. +6)
3. England (15 pts, +3)
4. Germany (11 pts, +14) (Qualifies for Olympic Women's Tournament)
(eliminated in Quarterfinals)
5. France (10 pts +7) (Qualifies for Olympic Women's Tournament)
6. Canada (8 pts +1)
7. Australia (7 pts +0)
8. China (7 pts +0) (loses on goals for (4 vs. 5))
(eliminated in Round of 16)
9. Brazil (9 pts +3)
10. Norway (7 pts +5)
11. Cameroon (6 pts +5)
12. Colombia (4 pts -1)
13. The Netherlands (4 pts -1) (loses on goals for (3 vs. 4))
14. South Korea (4 pts -4)
15. Switzerland (3 pts +6)
16. Sweden (3 pts -3)
(eliminated in Group Stage)
17. Thailand (3 pts -7)
18. Costa Rica (2 pts -1)
19. New Zealand (2 pts -1) (loses on goals for (2 vs. 3))
20. Spain (1 pt -2)
21. Nigeria (1 pt -3)
22. Mexico (1 pt -6)
23. Ivory Coast (0 pts -13)
24. Ecuador (0 pts -16)
posted by eriko at 5:55 PM on July 5, 2015


Thanks for all your work, eriko. Shall we meet again next time?
posted by languagehat at 5:56 PM on July 5, 2015 [2 favorites]


That was a great game. I didn't follow the entire tournament very well (although I was at the England-Japan game in person), but I'm pretty sure the US deserved that one. Well done eriko on shepherding us through this.
posted by figurant at 5:59 PM on July 5, 2015


No doubts here. Utterly convincing win for the United States -- Japan could only muster one goal, and was given another by an own goal by the US. Julie Johnston, alas, probably ended her Golden Ball campaign with that own goal, combined with Carli Lloyd going COMPLETELY NUTS with the goal scoring.

The US offense finally showed up. And how.

Here we go. Awards time!
posted by eriko at 5:59 PM on July 5, 2015


Thanks so much, eriko!
posted by Navelgazer at 6:00 PM on July 5, 2015


Shall we meet again next time?

Olympics!
posted by eriko at 6:01 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


And thanks, all!
posted by eriko at 6:01 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


My compliments to the referees for this match. They did a solid job. Missed a handball, couple of odd calls, but that was it.

Buchanan gets Young Player.
posted by eriko at 6:02 PM on July 5, 2015


And well deserves it.
posted by eriko at 6:02 PM on July 5, 2015


Ahh, there's a tiebreak, so Lloyd gets the Silver Boot.

Solo gets the Golden Glove.
posted by eriko at 6:04 PM on July 5, 2015


Sasic get the Golden Boot.
posted by eriko at 6:04 PM on July 5, 2015


Miyama gets the bronze ball.
posted by eriko at 6:05 PM on July 5, 2015


Carli Lloyd gets the Golden Ball.
posted by eriko at 6:05 PM on July 5, 2015


The USWNT forms the Tunnel for the Japanese Women. Nice touch.
posted by eriko at 6:07 PM on July 5, 2015


Who's the hugger on the stand?
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 6:10 PM on July 5, 2015


Sunil Gulati, president of USSF (US Soccer Federation)
posted by eriko at 6:12 PM on July 5, 2015


Well. There we are. Done and dusted.
posted by eriko at 6:15 PM on July 5, 2015


I take back every negative thing I ever thought about Jill Ellis.
posted by KathrynT at 6:17 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


I take back every negative thing I ever thought about Jill Ellis.

Oh, I don't -- but she at least realized finally that the 4-4-2 wasn't working. Finally. And let Carli do what Carli does best. Which is get out front and f#$k s^#t up!

Because when she did, wow. that changed everything. Morgan couldn't score, Wambach couldn't score, but Lloyd? Lloyd was beast. As a holding mid? Lloyd was a waste of space? As a second striker?

Lloyd won the World Cup.
posted by eriko at 6:21 PM on July 5, 2015 [2 favorites]


Okay, the kids playing in the confetti with the players? That was worth the wait.
posted by eriko at 6:27 PM on July 5, 2015


I am wondering if the 4-4-2 wasn't a deliberate rope-a-dope strategy.
posted by KathrynT at 6:30 PM on July 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


Huh. The US had 48% possession.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 6:48 PM on July 5, 2015




This is the Spanish equivalent of the English "A goal would appear to have occurred".
posted by Wordshore at 10:54 PM on July 5, 2015 [3 favorites]


This is the Spanish equivalent of the English "A goal would appear to have occurred".

1) I am amused that Andrés Cantor calls her "Pinoe" too.

2) Cantor was just as surprised by Lloyd's first goal as Japan's GK was. He's like "gol?" then remembers "oh yeah, I have this thing I do" and goes "GOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL!!!!"

3) I didn't notice Jill Ellis' shit eating grin on the original broadcast. I was probably too busy typing something here. That's priceless. Then again, I had the exact shit eating grin too. "Uncoachable? Coach this!"

4) He was more ready for Lloyd's second GOALLLLL!

5) He's just as impressed by Holiday's one time as I was. That was a sweet goal -- seriously, kids, if you can learn to one-time the ball on frame, you are much more effective than if you have to trap and shoot. One time strikers are deadly.

6) Holy cow, I thought he was going to die when Lloyd nailed it from the circle.

7) The Spanish for hat trick is "el hat tricko!" I did not know that. And, yes, "Golazo!" indeed. Goalzo has gotten overused, but a shot from the center circle over the GK's head is all Golazo, al the time.

8) After Heath's goal, he sounds like he's running out of batteries. "GOOAAaaaaaaaaaa." Come to think of it, he probably was.
posted by eriko at 5:29 AM on July 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


Full list of awards, rather than my splatter as they were sort of announced last night on the broadcast.

FIFA Fair Play trophy.
France

Young Player Award (Best Under 21)
Kadeisha Buchanan (CAN)

Golden Boot (highest goalscorer)
Célia Šašić (GER)

Silver Boot (2nd highest goalscorer)
Carli Lloyd (USA)

Bronze Boot (3rd high goalscorer)
Anj Mittag (GER)

Golden Glove (Best Goalkeeper)
Hope Solo (USA)

Golden Ball (Best Player)
Carli Lloyd (USA)

Silver Ball (2nd Best Player)
Amandine Henry (FRA)

Bronze Ball (3rd Best Player)
Aya Miyama (JPN)


The Golden Boot used to be shared if number of goals was tied, there's now a tiebreaker (since the 2014 Men's WC, apparently.) If tied on goals, you go to assists. If tied on assists, as Šašić and Lloyd were, you go to minutes played, whomever played the fewest minutes wins, and that was Šašić. Since Lloyd went Beast Mode, there wasn't a tie for the Bronze.
posted by eriko at 5:45 AM on July 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


Why do they go Gold/Silver/Bronze for Ball and Boot but not for Glove?
posted by mmascolino at 7:34 AM on July 6, 2015


As an English person it is not easy to say this, but congratulations America, on winning the World Cup!

On the plus side, England beat Germany, and we don't get to say that very often!
posted by marienbad at 8:34 AM on July 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


Why do they go Gold/Silver/Bronze for Ball and Boot but not for Glove?

Not enough contestants, really -- for the GKs that are in contention, they're playing the entire WC. There are a lot more goal scorers, and there's no shortlist -- the Boot is simply who scores more, and the Ball is open to *anybody*, offense, defense or GK. There were eight on the shortlist for the Golden Ball, one of them was out when the shortlist was release (Henry) and she got the Silver Ball. There were only three on the short list for the Golden Glove -- in this case it was Angerer, Solo and Kaihori.

But really, the reason is "That's what they award."

Angerer ended on two losses and six allowed, and Kahori, well, you give up five in the final, you're not going to win the goalkeeping award. Solo ended on no losses, and three allowed, and one of those was an own goal -- and when you compare here to Angerer over the same number of matches, it's six allowed for Angerer vs. one allowed for Solo.

Admittedly, that's as much on their defenses as themselves, but goals allowed is one of the big stats for GKs. And, in the end, despite racking up 10 goals against the Ivory Coast and 4 against Thailand, Germany ended up +14, and the US ended up +11. Wipe out those 14, and Germany is +0.

That's why Germany went home without a medal and the US went home with a trophy. When they needed the offense, it wasn't there. When the US needed the offense, it was.
posted by eriko at 9:37 AM on July 6, 2015


As an English person it is not easy to say this, but congratulations America, on winning the World Cup!

TWO WORLD WARS AND THREE WORLD CUPS, DOO DAH DOO DAH!

Okay, that was mean. I'm sorry.

But seriously. Hell of a job by England to get to the semifinal, then recover from the Most English Loss Ever Lost.

This makes it better.

And I'm serious. It's a damn shame you and the other FA's on that group of islands can't figure it out with the IOC and we're going to have to wait until 2019, but seriously, England is becoming a power in the Women's game. I fully expect Germany and France to have many more bad days in the future, and I'm really looking forward to watching the Lionesses again. They're going to be a real force in the game, and that makes everybody else better.

And, well, I'm a little less worried about the US -- but we're still going to have to step up our game. The game is getting better world wide.

The teams that really need to learn this? The South American teams -- and that's true on both the Men's and Women's side. You can't win with just great players anymore. Marta can't carry you to the Final. Neymar can't carry you to the final, and it showed.
posted by eriko at 9:50 AM on July 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


Huh. The US had 48% possession.

Yeah, but there's "possession" where you're playing onesie-twosie in the midfield desperately trying to find a hole in your opponent's hulking defense, and then there's "possession" where you're driving the ball straight down the field to power it into the box.
posted by KathrynT at 10:19 AM on July 6, 2015


I still think the Women's game isn't ready for 24 teams, and it sure as heck isn't ready for 32. The only reason Célia Šašić wins the Golden Boot is a hat trick vs. the Ivory Coast. You could argue that Costa Rica, Nigeria and New Zealand are ready or close, and if Spain can fix the nightmare coach problem, they'll probably get much better, but Thailand, Ivory Coast, Ecuador and Mexico were just embarrassed badly.

And it sets up that bad situation where, if all the seeds advance and win in the round of sixteen, you're going to have four of the seeds playing each other in the QF, but two of them playing non-seeds in the QF, because there aren't eight seeds to fill the QF rounds. That's why you had the France-German QF, and if Brazil had won, you would have had the Japan-Brazil QF. With 16, you have four seeds, the first round of the knockouts is the quarters, with the group winners vs. the group seconds, if all the seeds win, they meet in the semifinals.

In a 32 team 8 seed tournament, like the Men WC, if all the seeds win and advance through the round of 16, then you have the 8 seeds playing in the QF.

But the point of this particular seeding was to make sure that Canada played in Vancouver as much as possible and that France played in Montreal as much as possible. I still think the way they did this was a bad mistake. Putting the host in Group A to play the first game? Honored tradition. After that? You draw the other seeds into the groups. Heck, I would have even been good with then *assigning* the groups to cities to put France into Montreal and Canada into Vancouver -- so, you say "France has been drawn into group B. Group B will play in Montreal." Not a problem with that, makes the draw fair and make sure you sell lots of tickets to the Francophiles.

But by doing it they way the did, they put the US and Canada on to the apparent easy tracks (the non-seed QFs.) Of course, the draw took the US right off the Easy Track and into the Group of Death, and then Canada and Brazil handed the Easy Track to England and Japan.

And then, that went wrong again when Sweden turned into Pod People Sweden, the US went catatonic, and Brazil went wrong. Because Tournaments!

But the draw was wrong, and it's the least appreciated controversy of the tournament. Hopefully, they've learned that lesson.

Controversy #2 you may not have noticed. Toronto? Calgary? Why are we in Moncton when we're not in the Largest or Fourth Largest City in Canada? Why not have the US based in, oh, Southern Ontario and get all that Sweet US money?

Well, the Pan Am games start in Toronto on July 10th. The Calgary Stampede started July 3rd. In the former, they were worried about turnaround time, in the latter, they were worried about setup/teardown (though surely they could have held group stage matches there, right?) So instead we end up overusing Edmonton, which is rather north of the border, though not a small city, and Moncton. There are four suburbs of Chicago with a larger population than Moncton -- Joliet, Aurora, Naperville and Elgin. Just to give you a sense of scale here.

So, yeah -- if you're wondering why some of the games looked a little thin on ticket sales, well, midweek games, in the middle of nowhere, and well, you get to New Brunswick. It's not easy. Beautiful place, don't get me wrong. But that was a really bad call for a world-wide event. If you're thinking "Why not Halifax?" No stadium.

Sigh. It has flaws.
posted by eriko at 10:28 AM on July 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


But in the end, the good still outweighs the bad.

And the Women's game is still building. It's not as big as the men's game. I hope some day it will be, but it isn't now. It's grown. We have a tournament, this was our 7th. It started with 12 teams, it now has 24. There were no women's professional leagues. There are now many.

It builds. It will have setbacks, of course. The men's game does. It just has a century more progress, and, of course, a society that accepted men playing sports far long than than it has accepted women playing sports. But that has changed, and continues to change.

And last night, we saw something that we never saw before. We saw people on the streets and in the parks watching the World Cup -- Watching the Women's World Cup.

And they cheered and cried and yelled and screamed along when our team won -- and it didn't matter what sex they were. They were our team. Ours.

I believed that we could win.

I never believed so many would be watching with me. :-)

And for one minute, it didn't matter. One team. One nation.

And if you don't think the world can change for the better? This happened.

That is Abby Wambach, kissing her wife, because she just won the World Cup.

Read that sentence again.

Read it one more time.

Think about it. Go back to the 1990s. Now, ask yourself this:

Did you ever imaging that you could read that sentence and it would be a simple factual statement?
posted by eriko at 10:34 AM on July 6, 2015 [6 favorites]


From the WSJ:
"She always does this to us," Japan coach Norio Sasaki said of Lloyd.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 11:02 AM on July 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


I never believed so many would be watching with me. :-)

Quite a lot, actually: U.S. Women Shatter TV Ratings Record For Soccer With World Cup Win

From the link:
While some 17 million American viewers tuned in to the 7 p.m. ET start of Sunday's game, that number quickly grew to 21.86 million an hour later — and reached 22.86 million at 8:30 p.m. ET, according to preliminary data from industry website TV Media Insights.

Those figures are comparable to the 2014 World Series' Game 7, which attracted 23.5 million viewers — far more than any other game of the 2014 series.
posted by The Gooch at 11:16 AM on July 6, 2015 [3 favorites]


Oh, and huge, huge thanks to you, eriko, for the incredible job you did facilitating the discussion of the WWC here on Metafilter. Much appreciated.
posted by The Gooch at 11:19 AM on July 6, 2015 [4 favorites]


I was really impressed with the US team last night. Superb win, richly deserved. I only wish England was the opponent rather than Japan, as there would be no shame in losing.

Also, I think England would be a great host of the women's World Cup and we should make bidding a priority.
posted by Thing at 11:24 AM on July 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


> "She always does this to us," Japan coach Norio Sasaki said of Lloyd.

Followed by "she is an excellent player and I really respect her and admire her," which I thought was classy.

(I have to say I'm still a bit disgruntled that this thread got so much less traffic than the men's last year, but maybe in 2019...)
posted by languagehat at 11:41 AM on July 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


(I have to say I'm still a bit disgruntled that this thread got so much less traffic than the men's last year, but maybe in 2019...)

The game is building. We didn't even have a thread is 2011!

And, by the way. I need to introduce you guys to two goals, if you don't know them, because they are the two most important goals in American Soccer right now.

Yes, Carli Lloyd was AMAZING last night, and Lauren Holiday goal was perfect. But they were not the most important goals in American Soccer.

They were two.

Wambach 122' USA vs. BRA 2011 World Cup.

Donovan 91' USA vs. ALG 2010 World Cup.

Both saved the tournament for the US. We didn't win either tourney. Both goals put the scorers into the pantheon of US Soccer, never mind everything they'd already done. And both goals basically doubled the number of fans in the US of the game the moment they were scored.

And both were fast -- from deep in all the way down to the opposite goal in remarkably little time.

If you haven't seen them, enjoy them. If you have seen them? You never forgot them. Someone someone else described it best. "I dumped a beer when Lloyd got the hat trick. I broke a tabled when Wambach got that header in 2011. It was the table I had to buy after I broke the last one when Donovan scored in 2010!"


And god I wish ESPN had the tournament, Ian Darke is SO much better at calling a game!
posted by eriko at 12:08 PM on July 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


Fox means I get to watch some of them, so I'm good with that.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 12:30 PM on July 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


Other fun stuff:

That much cute should be illegal.

USMNT Brad Guzan's wife breaks out the mean.

Leroux has it down. Rapinoe, not so much.

We have *got* to get a better beer sponsor, people!
posted by eriko at 12:34 PM on July 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


Also, I think England would be a great host of the women's World Cup and we should make bidding a priority.

I think you would be a superb host. Alas, the only people who have pissed off FIFA more than the US are the FA, so I think it will be a while before that happens.
posted by eriko at 1:16 PM on July 6, 2015


Also considering that 2019 is in France that would generally preclude England hosting in 2023 (you'd imagine Asia/Australia being front runners) and by 2027 you'd like to think that South America/Africa might be in the running (as well of course the US).

So, England 2041!
posted by mmascolino at 2:16 PM on July 6, 2015


Donovan 91' USA vs. ALG 2010 World Cup.

I was pregnant with my second child in 2010. June 23 was the day we found out via the level II ultrasound that we were having our first son. We very seriously considered naming him Donovan.
posted by KathrynT at 2:58 PM on July 6, 2015 [5 favorites]


Holy cow, I missed the game and came into the reply at minute 22 and it was already 4-0! I'm sorry that I missed such a tremendous start.

Thanks for all your work on this thread, Eriko! See y'all at the next big tournament.
posted by TwoStride at 5:48 PM on July 6, 2015


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