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October 7, 2015 1:55 PM Subscribe
The Sherlock special trailer (SLYT)
Wow, this looks ten times better than I was expecting! I'll have to rewatch it a few times with a clearer head to see if we have any clues as to which bits of canon they're adapting. Can't wait to see this.
posted by dialetheia at 2:28 PM on October 7, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by dialetheia at 2:28 PM on October 7, 2015 [1 favorite]
It looks like we get more Amanda Abbington in this. Which is fantastic.
I really don't know about the hat. The joke was good in the modern era, but for Victorian London, he should have some other sort of hat. Probably a small top hat. Watson should have a bowler.
posted by Hactar at 2:29 PM on October 7, 2015
I really don't know about the hat. The joke was good in the modern era, but for Victorian London, he should have some other sort of hat. Probably a small top hat. Watson should have a bowler.
posted by Hactar at 2:29 PM on October 7, 2015
Things that made this version of Sherlock Holmes great: its modern setting.
posted by lownote at 2:40 PM on October 7, 2015 [5 favorites]
posted by lownote at 2:40 PM on October 7, 2015 [5 favorites]
Is it me, or is Martin Freeman using a more "proper" accent for Watson in this than in the standard series?
posted by tzikeh at 2:43 PM on October 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by tzikeh at 2:43 PM on October 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
I will never stop loving the fact any two words, literally any two words that are (1) longer than three syllables, where (2) the first one starts with a B, and (3) the second one with a hard C, will correctly identify Benedict Cumberbatch.
Bandersnatch Cummerbund. Bindlewarp Kerboblywibble. Blogopost Catgiffer. Doesn't matter. It always works.
posted by mhoye at 2:51 PM on October 7, 2015 [23 favorites]
Bandersnatch Cummerbund. Bindlewarp Kerboblywibble. Blogopost Catgiffer. Doesn't matter. It always works.
posted by mhoye at 2:51 PM on October 7, 2015 [23 favorites]
He'll always be Benny Crumbles to me.
posted by Artw at 2:52 PM on October 7, 2015 [9 favorites]
posted by Artw at 2:52 PM on October 7, 2015 [9 favorites]
Beckonspliff Clamperpants!
posted by KingEdRa at 2:55 PM on October 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by KingEdRa at 2:55 PM on October 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
Rousing trailer - as it should be. Good.
posted by joseph conrad is fully awesome at 2:58 PM on October 7, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by joseph conrad is fully awesome at 2:58 PM on October 7, 2015 [1 favorite]
I did put a load of Breakfasting Cutlery in the tags but Moriarty stole them... not that I was lazy and didn't bother after thinking of it or anything
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 2:59 PM on October 7, 2015
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 2:59 PM on October 7, 2015
any clues as to which bits of canon they're adapting.
The pointy hoods glimpsed at 0:34 and 0:58 evoke "The Five Orange Pips."
posted by Iridic at 3:06 PM on October 7, 2015 [3 favorites]
The pointy hoods glimpsed at 0:34 and 0:58 evoke "The Five Orange Pips."
posted by Iridic at 3:06 PM on October 7, 2015 [3 favorites]
I personally know at least two ardent fans who will surely scream at the loss of Holmes' wavy locks.
posted by Greg_Ace at 3:10 PM on October 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by Greg_Ace at 3:10 PM on October 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
Wait - what's going on here, now?
This is a trailer for a special Christmas episode of Sherlock. It will suspend the show's modern continuity for a one-off story set in the 1880s.
posted by Iridic at 3:12 PM on October 7, 2015 [4 favorites]
This is a trailer for a special Christmas episode of Sherlock. It will suspend the show's modern continuity for a one-off story set in the 1880s.
posted by Iridic at 3:12 PM on October 7, 2015 [4 favorites]
Sharp trailer. The shot of Baker Street from above (crowded, carriages) looks very suspiciously like a nod to the opening titles of the Jeremy Brett series.
The pointy hoods glimpsed at 0:34 and 0:58 suggest "The Five Orange Pips."
Definitely looks like it. Not one of Holmes' more successful cases...
posted by thomas j wise at 3:14 PM on October 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
The pointy hoods glimpsed at 0:34 and 0:58 suggest "The Five Orange Pips."
Definitely looks like it. Not one of Holmes' more successful cases...
posted by thomas j wise at 3:14 PM on October 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
Funny how I'm way more interested in this than seeing much more of the modern series. Cumberbatch is trying really hard (and succeeding!) to be Brett in some of those shots.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 3:15 PM on October 7, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 3:15 PM on October 7, 2015 [3 favorites]
YAY! YAY! YAY!
posted by figment of my conation at 3:16 PM on October 7, 2015
posted by figment of my conation at 3:16 PM on October 7, 2015
I am really over the "make fun of Benedict Cumberbatch's name" meme, given that he's gone on record talking about how he was bullied as a kid.
posted by Tknophobia at 3:25 PM on October 7, 2015 [10 favorites]
posted by Tknophobia at 3:25 PM on October 7, 2015 [10 favorites]
I'll give this Granada-ening a chance, but those are some really big shoes to fill.
posted by Poldo at 3:28 PM on October 7, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by Poldo at 3:28 PM on October 7, 2015 [1 favorite]
I will never stop loving the fact any two words, literally any two words that are (1) longer than three syllables, where (2) the first one starts with a B, and (3) the second one with a hard C, will correctly identify Benedict Cumberbatch.
A linguist actually went and figured out the rules for this. Because that's what we do in our free time.
posted by damayanti at 3:37 PM on October 7, 2015
A linguist actually went and figured out the rules for this. Because that's what we do in our free time.
posted by damayanti at 3:37 PM on October 7, 2015
Why not split the difference and have it take place in the Edwardian era? Then you can have a Downton Abbey crossover to get the big American Anglophile TV donor dollars for PBS.
posted by Apocryphon at 3:37 PM on October 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by Apocryphon at 3:37 PM on October 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
Watson should have a bowler, you say?
"Caught the murderer, still looking for the legs. Think we'll call it a draw" - and then it gets, well, meta...
posted by Devonian at 3:38 PM on October 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
"Caught the murderer, still looking for the legs. Think we'll call it a draw" - and then it gets, well, meta...
posted by Devonian at 3:38 PM on October 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
Bandersnatch Cummerbund. Bindlewarp Kerboblywibble...
*cough*
posted by gwint at 3:41 PM on October 7, 2015
*cough*
posted by gwint at 3:41 PM on October 7, 2015
lownote: "Things that made this version of Sherlock Holmes great: its modern setting."
Yeah. Putting these guys in Victorian London reduces it to just one of a hundred Sherlock Holmes adaptations. On the other hand, it couldn't be worse than the last se[ason|ries].
posted by octothorpe at 4:01 PM on October 7, 2015
Yeah. Putting these guys in Victorian London reduces it to just one of a hundred Sherlock Holmes adaptations. On the other hand, it couldn't be worse than the last se[ason|ries].
posted by octothorpe at 4:01 PM on October 7, 2015
I am really over the "make fun of Benedict Cumberbatch's name" meme, given that he's gone on record talking about how he was bullied as a kid.
Maybe his parents shouldn't have named him after a TRAITOR
posted by Apocryphon at 4:01 PM on October 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
Maybe his parents shouldn't have named him after a TRAITOR
posted by Apocryphon at 4:01 PM on October 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
Maybe his parents shouldn't have named him after a TRAITOR
Maybe if he were born in the U.S.ofA. instead of London, that might apply.
As for renamings, to me, the simpler the better, so I go for Benadryl Cummerbund, also for the appropriate references to a sleep-inducing drug and an obsolete, overly-formal piece of dress.
We need to do more with other actors with borderline-silly names, like Leonardo DiCaprio (Guylombardo DeCapandtrade) or Ving Rhames (Bing Rhymes... why isn't he doing Microsoft commercials?) or Joaquin Phoenix (Wallclean Albuquerque) or Cobie Smulders (Doobie's Mothers) or even the Avengers' Asgard brothers, Hemsworth (Phlegmhurt) and Hiddleston (Fiddlestone).
Even Shia LaBoeuf (Shyboy LaBoop) is under-renamed compared to Ben.
posted by oneswellfoop at 4:29 PM on October 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
Maybe if he were born in the U.S.ofA. instead of London, that might apply.
As for renamings, to me, the simpler the better, so I go for Benadryl Cummerbund, also for the appropriate references to a sleep-inducing drug and an obsolete, overly-formal piece of dress.
We need to do more with other actors with borderline-silly names, like Leonardo DiCaprio (Guylombardo DeCapandtrade) or Ving Rhames (Bing Rhymes... why isn't he doing Microsoft commercials?) or Joaquin Phoenix (Wallclean Albuquerque) or Cobie Smulders (Doobie's Mothers) or even the Avengers' Asgard brothers, Hemsworth (Phlegmhurt) and Hiddleston (Fiddlestone).
Even Shia LaBoeuf (Shyboy LaBoop) is under-renamed compared to Ben.
posted by oneswellfoop at 4:29 PM on October 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
I haven't seen it yet, but I'm already disappointed and angry because Mofftiss.
posted by betweenthebars at 4:41 PM on October 7, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by betweenthebars at 4:41 PM on October 7, 2015 [3 favorites]
Wait, is it two hundred and twenty-one B and not two two one B?
Have I been reading it wrong all these years?
(Then how does the "that is the question" joke work?)
posted by madajb at 5:16 PM on October 7, 2015
Have I been reading it wrong all these years?
(Then how does the "that is the question" joke work?)
posted by madajb at 5:16 PM on October 7, 2015
Things that made this version of Sherlock Holmes great: its modern setting.
I do also rather feel that this is an odd thing because THE MODERN-DAY SETTING IS KIND OF THE POINT.
But against that: I would say that this version is also defined by its Holmes and Watson. Their characterization, the interplay between them, the performances by the actors. And presumably those attributes do carry back into the special's setting.
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 5:16 PM on October 7, 2015 [1 favorite]
I do also rather feel that this is an odd thing because THE MODERN-DAY SETTING IS KIND OF THE POINT.
But against that: I would say that this version is also defined by its Holmes and Watson. Their characterization, the interplay between them, the performances by the actors. And presumably those attributes do carry back into the special's setting.
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 5:16 PM on October 7, 2015 [1 favorite]
Benedict Arnold had at least one limb that betrayed mother England, so technically he was a traitor to both nations.
posted by Apocryphon at 5:32 PM on October 7, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by Apocryphon at 5:32 PM on October 7, 2015 [1 favorite]
*chick.
I'm seeing shades of 'The Adventure of the Red Circle' and 'The Adventure of the Noble Bachelor'.
posted by clavdivs at 7:18 PM on October 7, 2015
I'm seeing shades of 'The Adventure of the Red Circle' and 'The Adventure of the Noble Bachelor'.
posted by clavdivs at 7:18 PM on October 7, 2015
Why not split the difference and have it take place in the Edwardian era? Then you can have a Downton Abbey crossover to get the big American Anglophile TV donor dollars for PBS.
They already did exactly that, basically--Arthur & George
posted by We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese at 7:48 PM on October 7, 2015
They already did exactly that, basically--Arthur & George
posted by We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese at 7:48 PM on October 7, 2015
It looks like they have, at least temporarily, moved away from the extreme silliness that would occasionally bubble up in the contemporary episodes.
posted by mecran01 at 7:55 PM on October 7, 2015
posted by mecran01 at 7:55 PM on October 7, 2015
I haven't seen it yet, but I'm already disappointed and angry because Mofftiss.
You have many fellow travelers on that road. (I'm not one of them but the number of people driven to irrational rage by the mere mention of Moffat's name boggles and annoys me. I've had to tumblr savior it for my own sanity.)
My hope as someone who's been up and down on Sherlock is that the change of temporal scenery, like the change of lead in Who, leads to some positive changes in the writing and plotting.
posted by immlass at 8:14 PM on October 7, 2015
You have many fellow travelers on that road. (I'm not one of them but the number of people driven to irrational rage by the mere mention of Moffat's name boggles and annoys me. I've had to tumblr savior it for my own sanity.)
My hope as someone who's been up and down on Sherlock is that the change of temporal scenery, like the change of lead in Who, leads to some positive changes in the writing and plotting.
posted by immlass at 8:14 PM on October 7, 2015
They should leave the continuity suspended permanently and just set every episode in a different time period. Sherlock 1980 with two-tone pork pie hat. Sherlock 2080 with anti-Psycoborg neural diffusion visor. Sherlock 880 with Sutton Hoo helmet.
posted by No-sword at 8:48 PM on October 7, 2015 [20 favorites]
posted by No-sword at 8:48 PM on October 7, 2015 [20 favorites]
any clues as to which bits of canon they're adapting.
I remember reading awhile ago about them adapting The Adventure of the Blue Carbuncle for this special, but it would have to be a very loose adaptation if that's what they're going for.
The pointy hoods glimpsed at 0:34 and 0:58 evoke "The Five Orange Pips."
They sort of worked in the five pips during the Great Game, but it was more of a passing reference, and I agree that it seems like it would fit based on this trailer.
Personally, I'm excited and I WANT IT NOW, but I'm a complete, unabashed BBC Sherlock fangirl. I do agree that the modern setting is one of the things that really sets apart the current series, but I don't think that's the only thing. I feel like Martin Freeman and Benedict Cumberbatch play off of each other really well. I also really enjoy the humor that they bring to it.
At the same time, I don't think it would work if they took the exact modern day BBC Sherlock version of Holmes and Watson and just transported them back to the original Sherlock Holmes era, but based on the trailer it seems like they're adjusting their portrayals for the time period, which will make it much more interesting. I really like seeing this slightly more restrained version of Benedict's Holmes.
(I feel like we're on a first name basis now that I had a ten second conversation with him when he signed my program after Hamlet. And in case you were wondering, he was so nice and self deprecating and it was one of the best moments of my life.)
Is there a release date yet? It doesn't seem like it. I want to be able to mark it in my calendar and count down the days.
What can I say, having a nearly two year wait just to get a single 1.5 hour episode makes the whole Sherlock fandom a little rabid.
posted by litera scripta manet at 9:22 PM on October 7, 2015 [6 favorites]
I remember reading awhile ago about them adapting The Adventure of the Blue Carbuncle for this special, but it would have to be a very loose adaptation if that's what they're going for.
The pointy hoods glimpsed at 0:34 and 0:58 evoke "The Five Orange Pips."
They sort of worked in the five pips during the Great Game, but it was more of a passing reference, and I agree that it seems like it would fit based on this trailer.
Personally, I'm excited and I WANT IT NOW, but I'm a complete, unabashed BBC Sherlock fangirl. I do agree that the modern setting is one of the things that really sets apart the current series, but I don't think that's the only thing. I feel like Martin Freeman and Benedict Cumberbatch play off of each other really well. I also really enjoy the humor that they bring to it.
At the same time, I don't think it would work if they took the exact modern day BBC Sherlock version of Holmes and Watson and just transported them back to the original Sherlock Holmes era, but based on the trailer it seems like they're adjusting their portrayals for the time period, which will make it much more interesting. I really like seeing this slightly more restrained version of Benedict's Holmes.
(I feel like we're on a first name basis now that I had a ten second conversation with him when he signed my program after Hamlet. And in case you were wondering, he was so nice and self deprecating and it was one of the best moments of my life.)
Is there a release date yet? It doesn't seem like it. I want to be able to mark it in my calendar and count down the days.
What can I say, having a nearly two year wait just to get a single 1.5 hour episode makes the whole Sherlock fandom a little rabid.
posted by litera scripta manet at 9:22 PM on October 7, 2015 [6 favorites]
Where is the banter
LESS INCEPTION HORN MORE BANTER
posted by regicide is good for you at 10:06 PM on October 7, 2015 [5 favorites]
LESS INCEPTION HORN MORE BANTER
posted by regicide is good for you at 10:06 PM on October 7, 2015 [5 favorites]
This show devolved into extreme fan service so gradually I barely noticed. I'm sure this will still be a lot of fun though.
posted by yellowbinder at 10:52 PM on October 7, 2015
posted by yellowbinder at 10:52 PM on October 7, 2015
Watson should have a bowler, you say?
A Coke hat from Lock, I think.
posted by mwhybark at 11:19 PM on October 7, 2015 [1 favorite]
A Coke hat from Lock, I think.
posted by mwhybark at 11:19 PM on October 7, 2015 [1 favorite]
They should leave the continuity suspended permanently and just set every episode in a different time period. Sherlock 1980 with two-tone pork pie hat. Sherlock 2080 with anti-Psycoborg neural diffusion visor. Sherlock 880 with Sutton Hoo helmet.
A tv show run by Steven Moffat about a weird genius and his more relatable companion solve crimes in different time periods!
I think it could work.
posted by Just this guy, y'know at 2:44 AM on October 8, 2015 [14 favorites]
A tv show run by Steven Moffat about a weird genius and his more relatable companion solve crimes in different time periods!
I think it could work.
posted by Just this guy, y'know at 2:44 AM on October 8, 2015 [14 favorites]
No you don't understand, it'd be totally different from Dr Who because Sherlock has a sort of disdainful affection for humans and dresses eccentrically, also his nemesis is a kind of mirror version of himself that has all the same powers but uses them for evil.
posted by No-sword at 4:01 AM on October 8, 2015 [14 favorites]
posted by No-sword at 4:01 AM on October 8, 2015 [14 favorites]
Also Sherlock can come back from the dead. There's just no similarity between the two.
posted by No-sword at 4:02 AM on October 8, 2015 [11 favorites]
posted by No-sword at 4:02 AM on October 8, 2015 [11 favorites]
I am really over the "make fun of Benedict Cumberbatch's name" meme, given that he's gone on record talking about how he was bullied as a kid.
If ever there was a character that called for an actor who had the air of having been bullied at school then Sherlock Holmes has to be a good fit.
I will never stop loving the fact any two words, literally any two words that are (1) longer than three syllables, where (2) the first one starts with a B, and (3) the second one with a hard C, will correctly identify Benedict Cumberbatch.
It also works for Englebert Humperdink of course.
posted by rongorongo at 4:42 AM on October 8, 2015
If ever there was a character that called for an actor who had the air of having been bullied at school then Sherlock Holmes has to be a good fit.
I will never stop loving the fact any two words, literally any two words that are (1) longer than three syllables, where (2) the first one starts with a B, and (3) the second one with a hard C, will correctly identify Benedict Cumberbatch.
It also works for Englebert Humperdink of course.
posted by rongorongo at 4:42 AM on October 8, 2015
As good as Cumberbatch is in the titular role, Martin Freeman is the secret sauce that makes this version of Sherlock Holmes work for me. It's funny- all the things I can't stand about Moffat WRT to Doctor Who (the "specialness" of the Companion and how The Doctor needs her, etc) are the elements I like most about Moffat's Sherlock Holmes.
posted by KingEdRa at 5:39 AM on October 8, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by KingEdRa at 5:39 AM on October 8, 2015 [2 favorites]
I will never stop loving the fact any two words, literally any two words that are (1) longer than three syllables, where (2) the first one starts with a B, and (3) the second one with a hard C, will correctly identify Benedict Cumberbatch.
It also works for Englebert Humperdink of course.
Damn, beaten to the punch, rongorongo!
Crinklebert Fishtreebuns! Slut Bumwalla!
posted by chainsofreedom at 5:45 AM on October 8, 2015 [1 favorite]
It also works for Englebert Humperdink of course.
Damn, beaten to the punch, rongorongo!
Crinklebert Fishtreebuns! Slut Bumwalla!
posted by chainsofreedom at 5:45 AM on October 8, 2015 [1 favorite]
Sharp trailer. The shot of Baker Street from above (crowded, carriages) looks very suspiciously like a nod to the opening titles of the Jeremy Brett series.
I was under the impression that that's what they are, in fact, going for. If I remember correctly, the previous release of a snippet from the special actually includes the Granada music.
I am hugely excited for all the Victorian foggy mystery and much Cumberbatchian deep voice and cheekbones.
posted by ElleElle at 6:27 AM on October 8, 2015 [2 favorites]
I was under the impression that that's what they are, in fact, going for. If I remember correctly, the previous release of a snippet from the special actually includes the Granada music.
I am hugely excited for all the Victorian foggy mystery and much Cumberbatchian deep voice and cheekbones.
posted by ElleElle at 6:27 AM on October 8, 2015 [2 favorites]
Sherlock 1980 with two-tone pork pie hat.
God damn it, no-sword! Now I want to see a 1980s Holmes adaptation with Holmes dressed like Michael Jackson from the Billie Jean video. Thanks a lot.
posted by Naberius at 6:59 AM on October 8, 2015 [2 favorites]
God damn it, no-sword! Now I want to see a 1980s Holmes adaptation with Holmes dressed like Michael Jackson from the Billie Jean video. Thanks a lot.
posted by Naberius at 6:59 AM on October 8, 2015 [2 favorites]
I'd quite like one where he ends up in the middle of the Life on Mars world, having to work with Gene Hunt and John Simm in two roles, Sam Tyler and The Master.
posted by Devonian at 7:44 AM on October 8, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by Devonian at 7:44 AM on October 8, 2015 [1 favorite]
Wait, is it two hundred and twenty-one B and not two two one B?
Two twos, one one. And the B.
posted by scalefree at 10:59 AM on October 8, 2015
Two twos, one one. And the B.
posted by scalefree at 10:59 AM on October 8, 2015
Crinklebert Fishtreebuns! Slut Bumwalla!
Steviebuns Butrickturnnrrnsh
posted by We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese at 12:34 PM on October 8, 2015
Steviebuns Butrickturnnrrnsh
posted by We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese at 12:34 PM on October 8, 2015
We are dangerously close to "pear pimples for hairy fishnuts". On second thought, it might be just me that's taking that tangent.
I've got Moffat issues as well but the chemistry of the Sherlock cast overcomes that (Cumberbatch vs. Gatiss are almost as compelling as Cumberbatch and Freeman). But try as I might I cannot get into Doctor Who.
posted by Ber at 12:54 PM on October 8, 2015 [3 favorites]
I've got Moffat issues as well but the chemistry of the Sherlock cast overcomes that (Cumberbatch vs. Gatiss are almost as compelling as Cumberbatch and Freeman). But try as I might I cannot get into Doctor Who.
posted by Ber at 12:54 PM on October 8, 2015 [3 favorites]
"pear pimples for hairy fishnuts". On second thought, it might be just me that's taking that tangent.
No, it's also in the mind of every right-thinking person of a certain age.
posted by Greg_Ace at 1:01 PM on October 8, 2015 [1 favorite]
No, it's also in the mind of every right-thinking person of a certain age.
posted by Greg_Ace at 1:01 PM on October 8, 2015 [1 favorite]
That Victorian Sherlock Special Gets A Title and Air Date!
Spoiler: It's 'Sherlock: The Abominable Bride' and will air on New Years Day
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 4:57 AM on October 25, 2015
Spoiler: It's 'Sherlock: The Abominable Bride' and will air on New Years Day
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 4:57 AM on October 25, 2015
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