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November 26, 2015 8:20 PM Subscribe
Michael Dukakis would very much like your turkey carcass. In his tidy Brookline kitchen, the state’s former governor and onetime Democratic presidential nominee has had a quirky but endearing tradition legendary among family and friends. He collects Thanksgiving turkey carcasses to make soup for his extended family for the year to come.
The soup sounds better than the plain turkey.
posted by zabuni at 8:51 PM on November 26, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by zabuni at 8:51 PM on November 26, 2015 [1 favorite]
It has to be turkeys, otherwise everyone would be talking about Dukakis's duck carcasses.
posted by zamboni at 8:57 PM on November 26, 2015 [22 favorites]
posted by zamboni at 8:57 PM on November 26, 2015 [22 favorites]
My mother tried this. House smelled very strongly like turkey for a long, long time.
posted by knoyers at 8:58 PM on November 26, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by knoyers at 8:58 PM on November 26, 2015 [2 favorites]
Before we were vegetarians, my mom made soup out of every carcass that we wound up with (thank you, More With Less cookbook.) Smellin' like delicious carcass is part of the charm!
posted by blnkfrnk at 9:08 PM on November 26, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by blnkfrnk at 9:08 PM on November 26, 2015 [3 favorites]
Re: Dukakis giving no fucks, from Wikipedia:
In 2008, he reflected on his defeat during an interview with Katie Couric, in which he said he "owe[d] the American people an apology" because "if I had beaten [George H. W. Bush], we never would have heard of [George W. Bush], and we wouldn't be in this mess."
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 9:15 PM on November 26, 2015 [34 favorites]
In 2008, he reflected on his defeat during an interview with Katie Couric, in which he said he "owe[d] the American people an apology" because "if I had beaten [George H. W. Bush], we never would have heard of [George W. Bush], and we wouldn't be in this mess."
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 9:15 PM on November 26, 2015 [34 favorites]
You young people laugh, but if he said he was making "bone broth" you'd be all over it. (I've got my turkey carcass simmering away in the Crock Pot right now. I get you, Mike.)
posted by The corpse in the library at 9:18 PM on November 26, 2015 [11 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 9:18 PM on November 26, 2015 [11 favorites]
Dukakis wasn't supposed to win that nomination. It was his first and only presidential campaign, trying to get national cred by leveraging the "Massachusetts Miracle." You wonder whether he was actually playing for a VP nod to elevate his national profile for an eventual run in '96. He would've been 63 years old then. Perfect!
The '88 nomination was Gary Hart's to lose, and lose he did, in spectacular fashion. Then it should've gone to Gore, or Gephardt, but those guys fizzled. Dukakis was the only one left standing.
It's telling how bad Gore and Gephardt actually were at campaigning, that they couldn't distinguish themselves from Dukakis. And, Gore couldn't beat Dukakis, so why did he think he could beat Bush without Clinton's enthusiastic support, which didn't come?
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 9:29 PM on November 26, 2015 [7 favorites]
The '88 nomination was Gary Hart's to lose, and lose he did, in spectacular fashion. Then it should've gone to Gore, or Gephardt, but those guys fizzled. Dukakis was the only one left standing.
It's telling how bad Gore and Gephardt actually were at campaigning, that they couldn't distinguish themselves from Dukakis. And, Gore couldn't beat Dukakis, so why did he think he could beat Bush without Clinton's enthusiastic support, which didn't come?
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 9:29 PM on November 26, 2015 [7 favorites]
Dude, I just spent half an hour wrestling a twenty-pound turkey's carcass into submission so that I can make soup out of it tomorrow. Who makes turkey and doesn't use the carcass for massive quantities of turkey soup the next day? Or a chicken, for that matter--we use the carcass for stock every time we make one. Making soup from a carcass was maybe one of the first things I ever learned to cook on my own, and definitely the first thing I learned to cook without clutching a recipe as I went.
Takes an afternoon to simmer it down into a nice strong broth and then you pick all the usable bits off the bones when you've simmered them a while and put them back into the soup for texture. Add whatever vegetables you've got handy and maybe some nice herbs and a bit of salt and pepper and BAM, you've got something delicious that you can freeze and eat off of for months. The only thing I'm surprised by there is the bit where he's getting them from other people to use--that hadn't occurred to me, but it seems quite sensible.
...if anyone in Austin isn't using their turkey carcass, can I have it? I have a chest freezer, it's not like I couldn't store it until the one I'm cooking is done with!
posted by sciatrix at 9:36 PM on November 26, 2015 [11 favorites]
Takes an afternoon to simmer it down into a nice strong broth and then you pick all the usable bits off the bones when you've simmered them a while and put them back into the soup for texture. Add whatever vegetables you've got handy and maybe some nice herbs and a bit of salt and pepper and BAM, you've got something delicious that you can freeze and eat off of for months. The only thing I'm surprised by there is the bit where he's getting them from other people to use--that hadn't occurred to me, but it seems quite sensible.
...if anyone in Austin isn't using their turkey carcass, can I have it? I have a chest freezer, it's not like I couldn't store it until the one I'm cooking is done with!
posted by sciatrix at 9:36 PM on November 26, 2015 [11 favorites]
I could've sworn Dukakis died a few years back but I guess he's still kickin', so then I thought that it was Mondale that croaked but nope he's alive too.
WHO AM I THINKING OF
Lloyd Bentsen died in 2006, so that would be my guess.
posted by mightygodking at 10:21 PM on November 26, 2015 [2 favorites]
WHO AM I THINKING OF
Lloyd Bentsen died in 2006, so that would be my guess.
posted by mightygodking at 10:21 PM on November 26, 2015 [2 favorites]
I have a friend who went to Harvard and she told me that she would occasionally see Dukakis in and around Harvard Square and when he was walking around he would often stop to pick up litter and dispose it in the proper trash bins.
posted by mcmile at 10:39 PM on November 26, 2015 [36 favorites]
posted by mcmile at 10:39 PM on November 26, 2015 [36 favorites]
I could've sworn Dukakis died a few years back but I guess he's still kickin', so then I thought that it was Mondale that croaked but nope he's alive too.
Tsongas?
posted by dismas at 10:53 PM on November 26, 2015 [10 favorites]
Tsongas?
posted by dismas at 10:53 PM on November 26, 2015 [10 favorites]
I'm vegetarian but every year I take home at least one turkey carcass because the meat eaters don't understand cooking.
posted by tofu_crouton at 11:23 PM on November 26, 2015 [12 favorites]
posted by tofu_crouton at 11:23 PM on November 26, 2015 [12 favorites]
If only all nominees were this frugal and spent as much time making stock...
posted by iffthen at 11:28 PM on November 26, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by iffthen at 11:28 PM on November 26, 2015 [3 favorites]
I could've sworn Dukakis died a few years back but I guess he's still kickin', so then I thought that it was Mondale that croaked but nope he's alive too.
Mondale's daughter Eleanor (who was also a radio host and the wife of Chan Poling of the Suburbs) died of brain cancer in 2011. His wife Joan died in hospice in 2014. So it's possible you saw an obituary of somebody from the Mondale family recently.
posted by jonp72 at 11:33 PM on November 26, 2015 [3 favorites]
Mondale's daughter Eleanor (who was also a radio host and the wife of Chan Poling of the Suburbs) died of brain cancer in 2011. His wife Joan died in hospice in 2014. So it's possible you saw an obituary of somebody from the Mondale family recently.
posted by jonp72 at 11:33 PM on November 26, 2015 [3 favorites]
There are people that don't use leftover carcasses to make stock?
posted by Hairy Lobster at 11:38 PM on November 26, 2015 [11 favorites]
posted by Hairy Lobster at 11:38 PM on November 26, 2015 [11 favorites]
I'm fine with the soup making, but I wouldn't solicit carcasses from random strangers. Especially if I were a notable political figure who might not be beloved of all.
posted by Segundus at 11:39 PM on November 26, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by Segundus at 11:39 PM on November 26, 2015 [3 favorites]
I often cook a chicken just so I can make a stock from the carcass. Red lentils cooked in fresh stock is half the reason I ever buy a chicken.
posted by vbfg at 12:53 AM on November 27, 2015 [4 favorites]
posted by vbfg at 12:53 AM on November 27, 2015 [4 favorites]
I too thought everyone made soup from the leftover turkey or chicken. My mother did, I do.
An alternative fate for the carcass was one my brother tried one year, put it outside for the critters. We live in a suburban area that used to be rural, but still enough land to do this sort of thing. We were visited that year by a big black buzzard who really enjoyed the leftovers.
It was great. Yeah, we are sort of Addams Family people.
posted by mermayd at 2:59 AM on November 27, 2015 [13 favorites]
An alternative fate for the carcass was one my brother tried one year, put it outside for the critters. We live in a suburban area that used to be rural, but still enough land to do this sort of thing. We were visited that year by a big black buzzard who really enjoyed the leftovers.
It was great. Yeah, we are sort of Addams Family people.
posted by mermayd at 2:59 AM on November 27, 2015 [13 favorites]
There are people that don't use leftover carcasses to make stock?
Yesterday's pressure canning session produced 30 pints plus four quarts of stock. Lovely, lovely stock. My next Ask is going to be about building soups around it.
posted by MonkeyToes at 3:43 AM on November 27, 2015 [1 favorite]
Yesterday's pressure canning session produced 30 pints plus four quarts of stock. Lovely, lovely stock. My next Ask is going to be about building soups around it.
posted by MonkeyToes at 3:43 AM on November 27, 2015 [1 favorite]
Me making a stock from the turkey carcass is apparently the latest family tradition. I did so one year, and when we had a couple cousins and their kids drop in the day after Thanksgiving, it was on hand for me to spontaneously whip up some soup with some fresh carrots and turkey meat and feed everyone. then this year, when one cousin told us she'd be with her in-laws for the day and wanted to come by after, she said "and EC can make soup", so I guess this is a thing now.
And the only thing approaching family drama this year came when I was doling the stock into some Tupperware, and my brother came in and tried to lecture me about BPA's - but he was drunk as shit and there were no other storage containers in the house so he dropped it.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 3:44 AM on November 27, 2015 [2 favorites]
And the only thing approaching family drama this year came when I was doling the stock into some Tupperware, and my brother came in and tried to lecture me about BPA's - but he was drunk as shit and there were no other storage containers in the house so he dropped it.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 3:44 AM on November 27, 2015 [2 favorites]
He just says they're turkey carcasses. They're actually the bones of his enemies, and the soup he makes will eventually grant him the power to rule the world.
I, for one, can't wait until that glorious, glorious day.
Or else it's soup, which is pretty yummy too.
posted by xingcat at 4:21 AM on November 27, 2015 [8 favorites]
I, for one, can't wait until that glorious, glorious day.
Or else it's soup, which is pretty yummy too.
posted by xingcat at 4:21 AM on November 27, 2015 [8 favorites]
“Throwing out a turkey carcass is sinful. Absolutely sinful,” Dukakis says, in all seriousness. “It’s a terrible thing to do. There’s so much richness and goodness in a turkey carcass, God.”
I like him for this, and for being able to see potential in what's left after the feast, and for continuing a practical tradition. He's grateful for the whole bird, and shares what he works at. Thumbs up, Mr. Dukakis.
My neighbor got a deer a few days ago, and I hung out in his pole barn as he skinned the meat from the bone. He's a slow and deliberate processor, and there was lots of time for him to tell me stories about his younger years out hunting, about how work is going, about his garden planning for next spring. The skin was in a lumpy pile on the floor and the dogs circled the work area, waiting for something to fall their way. The meat went into a big silver bowl. The bones emerged, and it came to me that there might be something to do with them: venison stock. We wrestled the bones apart, and I went back home with about 10 pounds of potential. Today, I'm going to defrost and roast those bones, and tonight the house is going to smell of stock, and for the next few months, there will be rich, good soup. What's not to like?
posted by MonkeyToes at 4:53 AM on November 27, 2015 [14 favorites]
I like him for this, and for being able to see potential in what's left after the feast, and for continuing a practical tradition. He's grateful for the whole bird, and shares what he works at. Thumbs up, Mr. Dukakis.
My neighbor got a deer a few days ago, and I hung out in his pole barn as he skinned the meat from the bone. He's a slow and deliberate processor, and there was lots of time for him to tell me stories about his younger years out hunting, about how work is going, about his garden planning for next spring. The skin was in a lumpy pile on the floor and the dogs circled the work area, waiting for something to fall their way. The meat went into a big silver bowl. The bones emerged, and it came to me that there might be something to do with them: venison stock. We wrestled the bones apart, and I went back home with about 10 pounds of potential. Today, I'm going to defrost and roast those bones, and tonight the house is going to smell of stock, and for the next few months, there will be rich, good soup. What's not to like?
posted by MonkeyToes at 4:53 AM on November 27, 2015 [14 favorites]
One year my husband's friend made their Thanksgiving turkey with an insane amount of chili powder stuffed inside the cavity, something I didn't realize until I'd put the carcass into the stock pot to make soup. The broth on its own was so spicy it was basically inedible, but cut 50/50 with regular stock was an incredible base for all kinds of soupy, noodley delights for a good part of the winter that followed. I've never been able to replicate it.
(tl;dr: Check the inside of your hand-me-down carcasses if you don't like surprises. Or, enjoy the surprise.)
posted by Sweetie Darling at 5:06 AM on November 27, 2015 [3 favorites]
(tl;dr: Check the inside of your hand-me-down carcasses if you don't like surprises. Or, enjoy the surprise.)
posted by Sweetie Darling at 5:06 AM on November 27, 2015 [3 favorites]
I have a friend who went to Harvard and she told me that she would occasionally see Dukakis in and around Harvard Square and when he was walking around he would often stop to pick up litter and dispose it in the proper trash bins.
He still does this! Boston Magazine had a great interview with him, conducted on one of his litter walks. Up until the Dukarcass story, it was the most Dukakis thing ever.
Forget Diamond City, he's the jewel of the Commonwealth.
posted by Jugwine at 5:35 AM on November 27, 2015 [11 favorites]
He still does this! Boston Magazine had a great interview with him, conducted on one of his litter walks. Up until the Dukarcass story, it was the most Dukakis thing ever.
Forget Diamond City, he's the jewel of the Commonwealth.
posted by Jugwine at 5:35 AM on November 27, 2015 [11 favorites]
There are people that don't use leftover carcasses to make stock?
I turn chicken carcasses into soup once in a while. It takes a lot of time (not much effort, but you have to be around the house keeping an eye on things) and I find that the end result is good but not fantastic. If I had a chest freezer I'd keep the carcasses and spend a weekend making one huge batch, which would be a better use of the effort.
posted by Dip Flash at 5:41 AM on November 27, 2015
I turn chicken carcasses into soup once in a while. It takes a lot of time (not much effort, but you have to be around the house keeping an eye on things) and I find that the end result is good but not fantastic. If I had a chest freezer I'd keep the carcasses and spend a weekend making one huge batch, which would be a better use of the effort.
posted by Dip Flash at 5:41 AM on November 27, 2015
Somewhere, Karl Rove is scrambling for a phone in which to shout RUN AN AD ABOUT HOW DUKAKIS WANTS TO FREE WILLIE HORTON TO GO DOOR-TO-DOOR KNIFING YOUR TURKEYS.
Force of habit.
posted by delfin at 5:56 AM on November 27, 2015 [4 favorites]
Force of habit.
posted by delfin at 5:56 AM on November 27, 2015 [4 favorites]
He just says they're turkey carcasses. They're actually the bones of his enemies
Given that he lives in Brookline, I don't see any contradiction.
Forget Diamond City, he's the jewel of the Commonwealth.
He came to the commencement at my out-in-the-middle-of-nowhere state college. He wasn't the invited speaker, and he didn't receive any honors. Heck, his presence wasn't even acknowledged during the proceedings. He just quietly sat there on stage in a very dignified and quiet manner. Apparently he comes every year.
Later on in the day I held a door open for him and he thanked me.
posted by RonButNotStupid at 6:01 AM on November 27, 2015 [15 favorites]
Given that he lives in Brookline, I don't see any contradiction.
Forget Diamond City, he's the jewel of the Commonwealth.
He came to the commencement at my out-in-the-middle-of-nowhere state college. He wasn't the invited speaker, and he didn't receive any honors. Heck, his presence wasn't even acknowledged during the proceedings. He just quietly sat there on stage in a very dignified and quiet manner. Apparently he comes every year.
Later on in the day I held a door open for him and he thanked me.
posted by RonButNotStupid at 6:01 AM on November 27, 2015 [15 favorites]
This was very sweet to read.
My in-laws make soup every year. Watching my father-in-law carve while grumbling about how he was so sick of turkey after last year, then yelling at any family member who got too close to the bones still LOADED with tender dark meat that he was tossing aside for the soup - the cognitive dissonance made my head ache.
posted by theBigRedKittyPurrs at 6:04 AM on November 27, 2015
My in-laws make soup every year. Watching my father-in-law carve while grumbling about how he was so sick of turkey after last year, then yelling at any family member who got too close to the bones still LOADED with tender dark meat that he was tossing aside for the soup - the cognitive dissonance made my head ache.
posted by theBigRedKittyPurrs at 6:04 AM on November 27, 2015
Out turkey was broken down as soon as dessert was done, and my MiL had wrestled it into the pot immediately. The Kitchen Aid mixer's bowl is balanced carefully now in my fridge among the few leftovers that my wife didn't send home with guests...which is OK because I scored all the stock!
Monkey Toes, I am quite curious about your venison stock. Maybe use it to make weirdo risotto, or simmer white beans, or something even stranger!
posted by wenestvedt at 6:53 AM on November 27, 2015
Monkey Toes, I am quite curious about your venison stock. Maybe use it to make weirdo risotto, or simmer white beans, or something even stranger!
posted by wenestvedt at 6:53 AM on November 27, 2015
> you have to be around the house keeping an eye on things
Crock Pot! I am a reckless person who leaves the Crock Pot going when I'm not home. Dooo it. Take 24 hours to make your broth.
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:38 AM on November 27, 2015 [6 favorites]
Crock Pot! I am a reckless person who leaves the Crock Pot going when I'm not home. Dooo it. Take 24 hours to make your broth.
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:38 AM on November 27, 2015 [6 favorites]
I could've sworn Dukakis died a few years back but I guess he's still kickin', so then I thought that it was Mondale that croaked but nope he's alive too.
WHO AM I THINKING OF
George McGovern died in 2012.
posted by duffell at 7:50 AM on November 27, 2015 [1 favorite]
WHO AM I THINKING OF
George McGovern died in 2012.
posted by duffell at 7:50 AM on November 27, 2015 [1 favorite]
I've been cooking turkey in parts for around 20 years now (sous vide breasts and confit legs, both deboned) which gives me the ability to use the bones and scraps immediately. I run it all through a meat grinder powerful enough to break up the bones, then roast it to very dark brown in the oven, then make pressure-cooker stock with it. Once that's strained out, I do it all again pressure cooking the stock with ground & roasted turkey wings (super cheap), shallots and white port. You know that amazing pan sauce you get by splashing some wine into the roasting pan and scraping up the brown bits (aka jus)? I have about a gallon and a half of it. One of the nice things is that, due to all the intensive roasting, it's more "poultry" jus than it is "turkey" jus. So I can use it to sauce chicken, etc.
posted by slkinsey at 8:00 AM on November 27, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by slkinsey at 8:00 AM on November 27, 2015 [2 favorites]
Black Friday is for making turkey stock and never putting on pants.
I have spoken.
posted by duffell at 8:01 AM on November 27, 2015 [15 favorites]
I have spoken.
posted by duffell at 8:01 AM on November 27, 2015 [15 favorites]
The secret ingredient that pairs with turkey stock is vermouth.
Also, crack your bones for the marrow. (You can do this with good cooking shears after softening the bones for a few hours if you can't break them any other way)
No one in my house really likes turkey, but they all want my soup.
posted by Xyanthilous P. Harrierstick at 8:02 AM on November 27, 2015 [1 favorite]
Also, crack your bones for the marrow. (You can do this with good cooking shears after softening the bones for a few hours if you can't break them any other way)
No one in my house really likes turkey, but they all want my soup.
posted by Xyanthilous P. Harrierstick at 8:02 AM on November 27, 2015 [1 favorite]
Dukakis is a class act.
Obligatory: "I can't believe I'm losing to this guy."
posted by Chrysostom at 8:12 AM on November 27, 2015 [1 favorite]
Obligatory: "I can't believe I'm losing to this guy."
posted by Chrysostom at 8:12 AM on November 27, 2015 [1 favorite]
During his first run, our local radio station had a "Michael Dukakis eyebrow lookalike contest". (Good old Z-93 in Atlanta) My best friend and I sent in a 50 year old picture of her grandfather, a south Ga gentleman who had eyebrows the size of bushy, black twinkies over each eye and we won $500!! We were so thrilled!! That was impossible money for two eighth graders! We got to go up to the station office and meet Steve McCoy and the gang.... Good times!
posted by pearlybob at 8:15 AM on November 27, 2015 [8 favorites]
posted by pearlybob at 8:15 AM on November 27, 2015 [8 favorites]
>Also, crack your bones for the marrow.
I usually use the turkey's bones, but I'm intrigued by this suggestion
The rich, sticky mouthfeel of a stock comes from gelatin. Gelatin is produced by subjecting collagen to heat and water. Marrow has a lot of collagen in it. Thus, if you break open the bones you are exposing a lot of collagen to the stock making process and will get a more gelatin-rich stock.
In addition, yellow marrow has a lot of fat in it. Fat has flavor. This is likely far less significant than the effect cracking the bones has on gelatin extraction, however. Protip: Flavor comes from the meat, not the bones. Friends have experimented with removing all the meat from the exterior of bones and using just the bones to make stock, and the result had very little flavor. This is why we are enjoined to use "meaty bones" when making stock.
posted by slkinsey at 8:42 AM on November 27, 2015 [2 favorites]
I usually use the turkey's bones, but I'm intrigued by this suggestion
The rich, sticky mouthfeel of a stock comes from gelatin. Gelatin is produced by subjecting collagen to heat and water. Marrow has a lot of collagen in it. Thus, if you break open the bones you are exposing a lot of collagen to the stock making process and will get a more gelatin-rich stock.
In addition, yellow marrow has a lot of fat in it. Fat has flavor. This is likely far less significant than the effect cracking the bones has on gelatin extraction, however. Protip: Flavor comes from the meat, not the bones. Friends have experimented with removing all the meat from the exterior of bones and using just the bones to make stock, and the result had very little flavor. This is why we are enjoined to use "meaty bones" when making stock.
posted by slkinsey at 8:42 AM on November 27, 2015 [2 favorites]
There are people that don't use leftover carcasses to make stock?
i just buy soup, it comes in boxes. it's like $2.99
posted by poffin boffin at 9:37 AM on November 27, 2015 [4 favorites]
i just buy soup, it comes in boxes. it's like $2.99
posted by poffin boffin at 9:37 AM on November 27, 2015 [4 favorites]
There's happiness in my house when the carcass is simmering, because soon there will be tasty risotto. I like Dukakis, he's a goog guy, wish he'd been a better campaigner. We need a good campaigner this time, the GOP slate uses commercial chicken broth and will nominate supreme court justices who discard turkey carcasses. Don't even get me started on gizzards.
posted by theora55 at 9:59 AM on November 27, 2015 [5 favorites]
posted by theora55 at 9:59 AM on November 27, 2015 [5 favorites]
According to his granddaughter Ali on Twitter, they've gotten a dozen donations as of this afternoon.
Happy to report that we used ours for soup already.
posted by Jugwine at 10:50 AM on November 27, 2015 [3 favorites]
Happy to report that we used ours for soup already.
posted by Jugwine at 10:50 AM on November 27, 2015 [3 favorites]
The one time I tried to make venison stock from bones, there was a weird off-flavor. I don't know if there is special prep you have to do to avoid that, I just chucked them in a pot with aromatics.
posted by tavella at 11:13 AM on November 27, 2015
posted by tavella at 11:13 AM on November 27, 2015
Mondale's not dead, but in photos he looks more and more like Gorbachev every day.
posted by blucevalo at 12:04 PM on November 27, 2015
posted by blucevalo at 12:04 PM on November 27, 2015
Tsongas?
He died of cancer maybe 25 or 30 years ago, I think. I remember him mainly for his soundbite line "I'm running to be President, not Santa Claus". When I heard that, I said, well, that's the end of him.
posted by thelonius at 1:20 PM on November 27, 2015
He died of cancer maybe 25 or 30 years ago, I think. I remember him mainly for his soundbite line "I'm running to be President, not Santa Claus". When I heard that, I said, well, that's the end of him.
posted by thelonius at 1:20 PM on November 27, 2015
He died January 1997.
posted by Chrysostom at 3:07 PM on November 27, 2015
posted by Chrysostom at 3:07 PM on November 27, 2015
So long as we're playing "Dead Democrats who we maybe confused with Dukakis," I'm going to go with "Geraldine Ferraro."
Also, the whole point to roasting the turkey is the carcass for soup stock, right? My partner and I still debate what goes into the stock the next day; he's fine with the bones and some onion and thyme; I believe in adding some Penzey's poultry seasoning mix at regular intervals.
posted by sobell at 3:59 PM on November 27, 2015 [1 favorite]
Also, the whole point to roasting the turkey is the carcass for soup stock, right? My partner and I still debate what goes into the stock the next day; he's fine with the bones and some onion and thyme; I believe in adding some Penzey's poultry seasoning mix at regular intervals.
posted by sobell at 3:59 PM on November 27, 2015 [1 favorite]
I don't do turkey for thanksgiving (bison roast), so my stuffing is cooked in a dutch oven and is moistened with a stock made from roasted marrow bones. I love making stock on cold days!
posted by acrasis at 5:06 PM on November 27, 2015
posted by acrasis at 5:06 PM on November 27, 2015
In more positive news, Olympia Dukakis is still with us.
posted by Halloween Jack at 6:53 PM on November 27, 2015
posted by Halloween Jack at 6:53 PM on November 27, 2015
They're already being called Ducarcasses. In addition to this, Dukakis regularly walks along the Muddy River (which separates Brookline and Boston), picking up trash.
posted by adamg at 7:20 PM on November 27, 2015
posted by adamg at 7:20 PM on November 27, 2015
This is a glorious Thanksgiving, as I got two different carcasses from two different feasts! My freezer is stuffed with carcasses I'll cook next week.
I will be having delicious turkey broth to put in my cooking for months, once I break them down.
posted by spinifex23 at 7:21 PM on November 27, 2015
I will be having delicious turkey broth to put in my cooking for months, once I break them down.
posted by spinifex23 at 7:21 PM on November 27, 2015
I make chicken (from leftover carcasses) and beef stock (from the cheap bones my butcher sells me) all the time. My freezer is stuffed with it in little 1c ziploc bags (which are easier to fit in small places than tupperware). Makes it easy to use in random recipes or whip up some chicken soup if one of us is sick. Imagine my surprise when Bone Broth (TM) became a Thing (TM) and all my friends started swapping stock recipes like no one had ever thought of it before. In addition to keeping carcasses or bones I keep a freezer bag full of meat trimmings, the ends of carrots, the stems of mushrooms (for beef broth), the rest of the celery in a bag that I didn't use in another recipe, etc, so as soon as I run out of my freezer stock o' stock I can just dump bags of bones and trimmings in a pot and be re-stocked a day later.
I didn't do my own turkey for Thanksgiving, but when I do one at Christmas you better believe turkey stock is happening.
posted by olinerd at 7:30 PM on November 27, 2015 [2 favorites]
I didn't do my own turkey for Thanksgiving, but when I do one at Christmas you better believe turkey stock is happening.
posted by olinerd at 7:30 PM on November 27, 2015 [2 favorites]
Follow up article in today's Globe
Dukakis family now inundated with turkey carcasses.
posted by thefool at 8:52 AM on November 28, 2015 [3 favorites]
Dukakis family now inundated with turkey carcasses.
posted by thefool at 8:52 AM on November 28, 2015 [3 favorites]
Looks like they are going to some humanitarian causes.
I always make stock from whatever is leftover, and use it for both soups and gravies. Now I'm inspired to give some of it all away, since I live in an area with many homeless people. Lentils in a poultry stock are delicious, and also a great way of providing nourishment to the hungry.
If you cook your stock in a pressure cooker, your dog can eat the bones, even if it is poultry. That way you can further minimize the waste.
posted by mumimor at 2:56 PM on November 28, 2015
I always make stock from whatever is leftover, and use it for both soups and gravies. Now I'm inspired to give some of it all away, since I live in an area with many homeless people. Lentils in a poultry stock are delicious, and also a great way of providing nourishment to the hungry.
If you cook your stock in a pressure cooker, your dog can eat the bones, even if it is poultry. That way you can further minimize the waste.
posted by mumimor at 2:56 PM on November 28, 2015
Inspired by this thread I have a chicken carcass simmering with pearl onions and white beans. It smells heavenly.
posted by Dip Flash at 4:54 PM on November 28, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by Dip Flash at 4:54 PM on November 28, 2015 [1 favorite]
Thank you, everyone who posted some variety of "doesn't everyone do this?" comment. My husband and inlaws looked at me like I was a crazy person when I asked if they were going to make stock from the bones and if not could I please have them.
SEE NEAL, I'M NORMAL. IT'S YOUR FAMILY THAT'S WEIRD.
posted by Jacqueline at 7:02 PM on November 28, 2015 [2 favorites]
SEE NEAL, I'M NORMAL. IT'S YOUR FAMILY THAT'S WEIRD.
posted by Jacqueline at 7:02 PM on November 28, 2015 [2 favorites]
i just buy soup, it comes in boxes. it's like $2.99
IT'S NOT THE SAME.
I weep for your poor, deprived tastebuds.
posted by Jacqueline at 7:10 PM on November 28, 2015 [1 favorite]
IT'S NOT THE SAME.
I weep for your poor, deprived tastebuds.
posted by Jacqueline at 7:10 PM on November 28, 2015 [1 favorite]
Also, crack your bones for the marrow
Pretty sure turkey bones don't have any marrow.
posted by kenko at 10:00 PM on November 28, 2015
Pretty sure turkey bones don't have any marrow.
posted by kenko at 10:00 PM on November 28, 2015
IT'S NOT THE SAME.
yeah, i know, it's like 10,000 times better because i don't have to do any work other than clicking "add to cart" on fresh direct
posted by poffin boffin at 10:43 PM on November 28, 2015 [2 favorites]
yeah, i know, it's like 10,000 times better because i don't have to do any work other than clicking "add to cart" on fresh direct
posted by poffin boffin at 10:43 PM on November 28, 2015 [2 favorites]
Kenko: there's suspiciously dark red soft stuff inside the larger leg and wing bones. Whatever it is, I want it to leak out into my stock.
posted by Xyanthilous P. Harrierstick at 12:22 PM on November 29, 2015
posted by Xyanthilous P. Harrierstick at 12:22 PM on November 29, 2015
Seven quarts of venison stock*. We used the one that failed to seal in a tortilla soup, and it was AMAZING. I sent a quart of stock next door and the hunter grinned from ear to ear. His wife, however, gave it the hairy eyeball, and took it into her kitchen as though it were a dead skunk. It's really, really good, I swear!
* Less than I had hoped. Did not use the spine, out of an abundance of caution over CWD.
posted by MonkeyToes at 3:14 PM on November 29, 2015 [1 favorite]
* Less than I had hoped. Did not use the spine, out of an abundance of caution over CWD.
posted by MonkeyToes at 3:14 PM on November 29, 2015 [1 favorite]
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