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January 11, 2016 12:40 PM   Subscribe

 
"Say, what's the nerdiest musical we could possibly write?"

"I don't know- maybe something about the invention of the Mercator projection?"

"It's a start, but I think it might still be too approachable for the layperson."

"How about the life and times of America's first Treasury Secretary?"

"Kid, you're a genius!"
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 1:12 PM on January 11, 2016 [8 favorites]


I love how there's this long response about how cool it was to have Obama come and talk with them all after seeing the show and then it's all "MC Hammer came woo!"
posted by angrycat at 1:18 PM on January 11, 2016 [1 favorite]


Lafayette has this great arc where he starts out rhyming words that don't really rhyme and he can't really figure it out. As he becomes comfortable — and a general — he can do this really complicated, technical, fast stuff. It's like him mastering this language. Jefferson's raps are so bouncy and all over the place,

This is so true
posted by angrycat at 1:21 PM on January 11, 2016 [2 favorites]


The Vulture interview is absolutely fantastic. Can't wait to see what else they've got cooking up for Hamilton Week.
posted by kmz at 1:25 PM on January 11, 2016 [3 favorites]


The author of the other Hamilton biography they mention in that Huffington Post article, Washington and Hamilton: The Alliance That Forged America, must be pretty depressed at this whole thing.
posted by ChuraChura at 1:26 PM on January 11, 2016 [2 favorites]


that 8 shows a week link is long and amazing. even if you've read all the other hamilton stuff, they touch on some things in different ways than they have in other interviews. i'm excited to see what this week brings over at vulture for hamilton week. there's already another piece posted, Lin-Manuel Miranda Has Already Cemented His Place in Broadway History.
posted by nadawi at 1:26 PM on January 11, 2016 [2 favorites]


Any Hamilton fans who haven't heard Daveed Diggs' solo album, it's well worth checking out. Also, if you're not a Hamilton fan but you just like good hip-hop, it's still well worth checking out.

The stuff he did as clipping. is also great, though a little more experimental, Death Grips-ey.
posted by Itaxpica at 1:36 PM on January 11, 2016 [2 favorites]


The author of the other Hamilton biography they mention in that Huffington Post article, Washington and Hamilton: The Alliance That Forged America, must be pretty depressed at this whole thing.

Nah. A rising tide lifts all Hams.
posted by Solon and Thanks at 1:47 PM on January 11, 2016 [8 favorites]


The teenager of the house has discovered Hamilton and listens to the soundtrack pretty much continuously. When I was asking about possible Xmas gifts, she mentioned she wanted the biography of Alexander Hamilton by Ron Chernow. I was a bit taken aback, because a year ago she was still firmly in the Young Adult fiction world, so I had to double-check: "Alexander Hamilton? First Secretary of the Treasury of the US? Duel with Aaron Burr? You know he didn't fight werewolves or anything, right?"

Anyway, she is deep in the book now and my mother, vying for Best Gramma title, is taking her to NYC in the summer to see the musical on Broadway.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 2:21 PM on January 11, 2016 [28 favorites]


Think of the series of implausible sentences required to explain the Hamilton phenomenon, that a musical about the first treasury secretary, starring an nearly all POC cast, that is almost entirely song, is so complex, character-driven and catchy that it's widely regarded as the best American Musical of the 21st century if not the last 50 years, and is so popular epically with children and teens that it's leading the biggest single profit year in Broadway's history and fueling a gigantic reinterest in the colonial period and politics across the country.

Oh and it also completely done in and explores the breadth of African American music from the 1900s onward that Broadway has traditionally ignored or appropriated.

yikes
posted by The Whelk at 2:32 PM on January 11, 2016 [30 favorites]


The teenager of the house has discovered Hamilton and listens to the soundtrack pretty much continuously. When I was asking about possible Xmas gifts, she mentioned she wanted the biography of Alexander Hamilton by Ron Chernow

I love this anecdote. If you're looking for future book gifts to capitalize on this interest, here's a great list of recommendations that she'll probably enjoy. "Lafayette in the Somewhat United States" by Sarah Vowell gets recommended a lot in particular.
posted by Solon and Thanks at 2:50 PM on January 11, 2016 [8 favorites]


thanks so much for this! we just saw Hamilton (tickets purchase inJuly!) and it completely lived up to the hype and then some.
posted by bluesky43 at 3:06 PM on January 11, 2016


I picked up the Vowell book last week but no one has got to it yet.

Teenager tells me she is so far on page 4 of the Chernow book. Vowell will be an easier read.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 3:18 PM on January 11, 2016


The Vowell book also has some lovely interior illustrations of the key figures.
posted by The Whelk at 3:24 PM on January 11, 2016 [1 favorite]


Anyway, she is deep in the book now and my mother, vying for Best Gramma title, is taking her to NYC in the summer to see the musical on Broadway.

I think she can consider that title effectively clinched.

I am kind of amazed that I'm still not tired of listening to the cast recording. I think it's because the music and lyrics are so complex. You can always find new things to get excited about.
posted by lunasol at 4:36 PM on January 11, 2016 [4 favorites]


This is amazing, from the first link:

Christopher Jackson: I was shopping a couple of days before Christmas, and I got off the train and the cop grabs my arm. And there were a number of things going through my head. And he was like, "Are you Christopher Jackson?"

REG: He used your name, not the character!

CJ: "I love your work. Thank you for what you're doing." And I was like, "Thank you for saying that. Would you please let go of my arm? Unhand me."

posted by lunasol at 4:47 PM on January 11, 2016 [3 favorites]


God, I know, you listen to it one billion times and then you're still kinda like, "I am going to have deep thoughts over such-and-such" and "ohhh, I never realized that the lyrics said THAT even though I have read the Genius site like, a lot."

Btw, now I finished a Madison book and am all "uh, what do I read now that I covered one book for everybody in the show?"
posted by jenfullmoon at 6:00 PM on January 11, 2016 [4 favorites]


Also, a different thing makes me tear up every time, I swear. Yesterday it was "THE OTHER 51" which I found sort of goofy the first 75 times but just hit me right in the feels yesterday for some reason. Hamilton poured so much of himself into his work! And so does Lin Manuel! And they both made such a difference in the world! And then I got to the end of the song where Hamilton sings "I am not throwing away my shot" and the cast answers "Just you wait!" and I needed a moment.
posted by lunasol at 6:08 PM on January 11, 2016 [4 favorites]


Yeah, I especially like in "Non Stop" where the lyrics folds into itself.... "I am Alexander Hamilton, Hamilton just you wait..."
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 6:42 PM on January 11, 2016 [3 favorites]


I like Non Stop cause it feels like the musical theatre version of how I feel about working (NO YOU DONT UNDERSTAND I HAVE TO KEEP GOING FOREVER WITHOUT STOPPING OR ILL DIE OR BE FORGOTTEN THATS THE SAME THING) it's the ambitious kid anthem
posted by The Whelk at 7:20 PM on January 11, 2016 [5 favorites]


I unapologetically listen to "Right Hand Man" unreasonably loud in my car so I can shout BOOM.
posted by Dr. Zira at 7:44 PM on January 11, 2016 [15 favorites]


The Whelk, I so feel that.
posted by lunasol at 7:50 PM on January 11, 2016


The best part of Hamilton is that it sounds patently absurd on paper, but just works in a way that seems almost carelessly effortless, and obvious in hindsight. It's pretty remarkable how Hamilton never feels like it's desperate to prove a point or stretching to fulfill some sort of high-concept conceptual vision.

Hamilton's success seems so effortless that it's kind of surprising to consider that it wasn't preceded by a decade of other hip-hop musicals about the American Revolution.
posted by schmod at 8:01 PM on January 11, 2016 [12 favorites]


I'm sure my neighbors love me shouting out random lines as I clean. It's like vacuum: "The truth is in your eyes when you hear the British cannons go BOOM" clean the kitty letter: "Of course it's hard to have intercourse over four sets of corsets" wash the dishes: "I shoot back, we have resorted to eating our horses" make the bed: "make it impossible to justify the cause of the fight."
posted by angrycat at 1:11 AM on January 12, 2016 [5 favorites]


angrycat, that's so funny because I wondered last night, as I wheeled the trash and recycle bins to the curb, if the neighbors could hear me "singing":

There would have been nothin’ left to do for someone less astute
He woulda been dead or destitute, without a cent of restitution
Started workin’, clerkin’ for his late mother’s landlord*
Tradin’ sugar cane and rum and all the things he can’t afford


(*at this point I break into my best Leslie Odom Jr.; I know I'm a 48 year old suburban white lady but I DON'T CARE)

I've also had to stop listening to the soundtrack on the way to work because I worry that my colleagues think I'm in personal crisis, walking in every day with red-rimmed eyes and all.
posted by Sweetie Darling at 4:13 AM on January 12, 2016 [7 favorites]


Hamilton continues to be fantastic and I'm still endlessly looping the soundtrack over here. What I wouldn't give to see it live!
posted by flatluigi at 6:06 AM on January 12, 2016 [1 favorite]


Hamilton's success seems so effortless that it's kind of surprising to consider that it wasn't preceded by a decade of other hip-hop musicals about the American Revolution.

What amazes me is, yes, it seems so effortless and natural and "yeah, of course there are a bunch of people of color rapping on a Broadway stage about the American Revolution" but the more you listen to the cast recording and the more you read about it, the more you realize that it is the product of unbelievably painstaking labor. Certainly by LMM, who wove together such a tight, complex, and kind of perfect peace of art over 6 years, but also by the whole company. And yet it really does seem effortless.
posted by lunasol at 6:37 AM on January 12, 2016 [6 favorites]


This might be a good place to ask:

For those of you who have nearly memorized one or more Hamilton songs, what's the one line you keep forgetting?

Me:

Alexander Hamilton: "Scammin' for every book he can get his hands on / plannin' for the future" (but I can always remember the next bit, "see him now as he stands on the bow of a ship")

My Shot: "tryin' to reach my goal" and "Foes oppose us, we take an honest stand"

Non-Stop: "Now for a strong central democracy"

Your Obedient Servant: "I don't wanna fight" and "You stand only for yourself"

(I will probably get to the "only a couple of lines missing" memorization point with One Last Time sometime but it's gonna cost me a lot of tears. Good laws under a free government! *cries*)
posted by brainwane at 7:37 AM on January 12, 2016 [2 favorites]


what's the one line you keep forgetting?

Not one thing per se, but I occasionally drop words and then wonder how I got lost.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 7:52 AM on January 12, 2016 [1 favorite]


(I will probably get to the "only a couple of lines missing" memorization point with One Last Time sometime but it's gonna cost me a lot of tears. Good laws under a free government! *cries*)

One Last Time is the song where I consistently lose it with the weepiness. Not Burn, Not It's Quiet Uptown, Not Who Lives, Who Dies, Who Tells Your Story -- but One Last Time.

I've just learned to live with the fact that I am weird. But I'm glad to know I'm not alone here.
posted by JustKeepSwimming at 8:23 AM on January 12, 2016 [1 favorite]


One Last Time is the one that surprise-gets me every time, always a different line. Also "I never had a group of friends before." I now have a "no Act III" rule in the car because it's not safe to drive like that.

Anyway, I had a two-full-listen day on Sunday after rarely missing a day listening to at least a little since mid-October and I'm still finding stuff and meaning and callbacks and clever bits. It's very rare to get to consume any form of media that holds up like that.
posted by Lyn Never at 8:58 AM on January 12, 2016 [4 favorites]


the next article from vulture is here! Should I Listen to Hamilton Before I See It? A Step-by-Step Decision Guide

i disagree about some of the selections/order of selections, but i'm a bad person to ask since i personally went with the "listen to the whole thing obsessively, forever, actually." thing since i won't be watching it until it manages to tour through missouri or texas or some place like that i can drive to (because it won't be in my state for a long, long, long time, i fear).
posted by nadawi at 9:02 AM on January 12, 2016 [3 favorites]


I saw Hamilton on Saturday and it was such an amazing experience. When we first sat down I was a little bummed to see that Jon Rua (the second understudy) was playing Hamilton instead of Lin-Manuel, but once the show started that disappeared quickly. Jon probably has a better singing voice than Lin. I had listened to almost all of the first act, but I had not listened to Act II and so I was unprepared for how powerful and emotional it was. I was there with my wife and two other family members and we all wept.

Now that I have had a couple of days to reflect on the show I think I have been able to put together why I think the show is so incredible. I am a big fan of Broadway shows and musical theater. But after seeing Hamilton, there is a part of me that feels like the entire art of musical theater exists, solely so Lin-Manuel could grow up surrounded by it and learn what he needed to create Hamilton. As others have said above, on paper it seems like it is impossible that it could be as good as it is. Yet, as good as you think it will be, when you experience it live, it is even better. As I walked out of the theater I sat there thinking if I could imagine an experience where someone could watch Hamilton and not be moved. I couldn't. I could go on and on and still it wouldn't be enough. It is magical and transformative.
posted by bove at 9:13 AM on January 12, 2016 [4 favorites]


I had no intention of seeing Hamilton until I listened to it, so, yes, listen. (In general I prefer to go in cold, though.)
posted by jeather at 9:13 AM on January 12, 2016


OK, here's another random question from a non-parent, because I've noticed so many people on Metafilter (and on Twitter/YouTube) talking about how their grade-school-age children are obsessed with the soundtrack. If you have a household where kids are discouraged from saying cuss words, how do you deal with the occasional s-word or mf-er-word that pops up?
posted by matildaben at 9:36 AM on January 12, 2016


When I first started listening to the music, I didn't know that there was explicit language in the show. Then my 11 year old son started learning the first song and I just had to tell him that a couple of the words were not polite and that when he sings the song he needs to leave them out. My kids have seen movies that have some profanity and so they know that these words exist, but that they need to avoid saying them. He hasn't had any trouble with that and now just drops those words out when he sings it around the house.
posted by bove at 9:51 AM on January 12, 2016 [1 favorite]


NPR conveniently broadcast a version of the cast album with all of the cuss words muted out that isn't at all hard to track down.
posted by Proofs and Refutations at 9:52 AM on January 12, 2016


The world turned upside down for real. In the best way possible.

Me and my friend communicate with the lyrics in texts.

It is so dense and clever it kills me. I say this as a writer. It makes me feel like a hack.
posted by syncope at 9:58 AM on January 12, 2016 [2 favorites]


what's the one line you keep forgetting?

My Spotify download of the album somehow dropped a track sometime in the last couple months, so I kept on thinking that I just kept missing the lines "Immigrants, we get the job done" and "HERCULES MULLIGAN". I finally realized they were gone completely, and cursed Spotify's name.
posted by redsparkler at 10:04 AM on January 12, 2016


I saw Hamilton on Saturday and it was such an amazing experience. When we first sat down I was a little bummed to see that Jon Rua (the second understudy) was playing Hamilton instead of Lin-Manuel, but once the show started that disappeared quickly. Jon probably has a better singing voice than Lin.

Yeah, Lin-Manuel Miranda is a extraordinarily talented man in a great many ways (not the least of which is spending last week Facebook trolling the host of a comedy podcast he has a long history with and referenced in Hamilton), but he is not the world's best singer. I was lucky enough to see Hamilton with the full cast, but if I had to pick any of the major actors to miss out on it would probably be LMM (or maybe Okieriete Onaodowan).

(My dream casting for Hamilton in the re-make would probably be Donald Glover).
posted by Itaxpica at 10:11 AM on January 12, 2016 [1 favorite]


Maybe it's because I've listened to the cast album so many times, but I like the fact that Miranda's voice is a just a bit nerdier and not as smooth as the other performers; it distinguishes Alexander's characters from the others and accentuates his earnestness and drive.
posted by redsparkler at 10:14 AM on January 12, 2016 [9 favorites]


(or maybe Okieriete Onaodowan).

PISTOLS AT DAWN.

(I agree on LMM, tho. He's a genius and I loved seeing him play Hamilton when I went, but I'm interested to see what other people can do with that role.)
posted by protocoach at 10:24 AM on January 12, 2016 [2 favorites]


I mostly just picked Onaodowan because I don't think he's quite as vital to the proceedings as, say, Renée Elise Goldsberry, or Daveed Diggs, or Phillippa Soo, or (god forbid) Leslie Odom Jr.

Seriously, seeing it live drives home quite how much the whole thing is Odom's show.
posted by Itaxpica at 10:31 AM on January 12, 2016


(I guess you could lose Ramos, too)
posted by Itaxpica at 10:31 AM on January 12, 2016


While I agree that the show was still amazing, I am still trying to figure out a way to go see it again just so I can have the experience with the complete original cast. It just feels like a once in a lifetime kind of thing. Philippa Soo was also out for our show and I absolutely love her voice on the cast album. Her understudy was also very good. But part of the experience I wanted in on was the original cast experience.
posted by bove at 10:32 AM on January 12, 2016


I'm terrified that LMM will leave the role before I can see it in New York; is there any word on this?
posted by redsparkler at 10:38 AM on January 12, 2016


Since ticket sales are out to September now, and I'm waiting for some open financial questions in my household to be answered before I pull the trigger on show and airplane tickets, I just assume that the cast will have changed by the time I get out there. I will just have to accept that whoever they are, they will also be good.
posted by matildaben at 10:38 AM on January 12, 2016




Seriously, seeing it live drives home quite how much the whole thing is Odom's show.

I haven't seen the show live, but Odom's performance on the album is so amazing that I can see what you're saying. I do wonder what transpired for the switch between Utkarsh Ambudkar (original Hamilton mixtape performance) and Odom. I wonder what moved Ambudkar on and let Odom take over the role.

President Obama must be reading this thread.

It makes me happy to see how many people answered with "Teach them how to say goodbye."
posted by gladly at 11:18 AM on January 12, 2016


I'm hoping that come Tony time, Hamilton will choose to feature Odom's performance. My guess is that they'll do "My Shot" but watching Odom sing "Room Where it Happens" and "Wait for It" live is rally incredible and I hope more people get a chance to see it.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 11:20 AM on January 12, 2016 [1 favorite]


"Wait For It" seems like it'd be a pretty great Tony performance, but I could also see them going with the title track to get everybody on stage.
posted by protocoach at 11:23 AM on January 12, 2016 [1 favorite]


Odom transcends to another level of existence at the end of Room Where It Happens. I've rarely seen anything like it.
posted by Mavri at 11:28 AM on January 12, 2016 [3 favorites]


at the tony awards, in the heights did a medley and i'd expect lin to set up the same thing for hamilton. i wonder if we'll get another freestyle acceptance speech from lin if(/when) he finds himself at the podium. odom better walk away with the lead actor award. i know it's unfair to say since i've not listened to any of the other shows for this year, but i just really really want him to get it.

speaking of "wait for it" - daveed diggs did an interview with playbill where odom/the song comes up :
To this day, when asked his favorite part of the show to perform, he names not any of his own show-stopping numbers, but "Wait For It," which Leslie Odom Jr. sings as Aaron Burr.

"Every night, singing backup for [Odom Jr.] during 'Wait For It' [makes me] feel like I'm living out a bizarre fantasy. I love how he sings that song, and [I know] I'd never get that job as his backup singer, outside of Broadway. 'Wait For It' is such a beautiful song and the fact that I get to support it…"
posted by nadawi at 11:41 AM on January 12, 2016 [3 favorites]




WAIT FOR IT is my favorite song too! Call me, Daveed Diggs!
posted by redsparkler at 11:47 AM on January 12, 2016 [1 favorite]


Regarding language in shows, and children, my favorite show when I was 9 and 10 was Ragtime, which is full of language and violence, both racially charged and not. I got in trouble for singing "Everyone has a name, even the little Negro baby who lives in our attic" while we were waiting for our table at a Chinese restuarant when I was 9, and then my mother forbade me from singing anything from Ragtime in public ever again.
posted by ChuraChura at 12:03 PM on January 12, 2016 [1 favorite]


Favorite bits from the roundtable include:

Odom, Jr. mentioning he'd love to play King George, and on the tension in "Wait For It"
Diggs dissecting flow, and discussing how he wants you to feel about Jefferson
Jackson asking if we could try not comparing Hamilton and Rent, and other performers giving idiosyncratic comparisons
Goldsberry considering leaving so someone else can have her journey
How the performance varies from night to night, including "There was a night the gunshot didn't go off."
"[Leslie makes an intense Aaron Burr face.]"

Diggs:
Some of my favorite research was reading the letters between Lafayette and George Washington where they're, like, trading tips about who should build a statue of you. "Oh, you've got to have this guy write a poem about you. It's going to be really big in 100 years."
And my favorite:
Question: Are there times where, as Burr, you wish you didn't kill him at the end?

LOJ: Every night. I have to.
posted by brainwane at 12:08 PM on January 12, 2016 [6 favorites]


My husband had to ask me to stop singing Hominy Grits from Grey Gardens in public.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 12:09 PM on January 12, 2016


I've also had to stop listening to the soundtrack on the way to work because I worry that my colleagues think I'm in personal crisis, walking in every day with red-rimmed eyes and all.

I walked into the house last night after a serious sobfest in the driveway over "It's Quiet Uptown." Fortunately my wife had her dress tucked into the back of her pantyhose when I walked into the kitchen so I could snap out of it quickly.
posted by dlugoczaj at 12:17 PM on January 12, 2016 [2 favorites]


Diggs:
Some of my favorite research was reading the letters between Lafayette and George Washington where they're, like, trading tips about who should build a statue of you. "Oh, you've got to have this guy write a poem about you. It's going to be really big in 100 years."


I loved this too, because I've been idly wondering if all these guys were really that obsessed with their legacies, of if that was a sort of winky recognition of the fact that these are all historical giants. But nope, they really were!

Also: I am going through super busy time right now (about to move across the country, launching a big project at work) and thus have banned myself from listening to anything past "Burn" because I don't have the time, at this particular juncture of my life, for spending a half hour breaking my own heart and making myself sob over people who have been dead for over 200 years. But come February! The tears will flow.
posted by lunasol at 12:43 PM on January 12, 2016 [1 favorite]


I loved this too, because I've been idly wondering if all these guys were really that obsessed with their legacies, of if that was a sort of winky recognition of the fact that these are all historical giants. But nope, they really were!

I was telling my brother (PhD in American history, the revolutionary period is his favorite) about Hamilton because it's all I want to talk about.

Me: There's an interesting meta level to it about history and winners and losers and how those stories are told.
Dr. Brother: Those guys were all very concerned with their legacies and how history would view them.
Me: There's a song about that!
Dr. Brother: George Washington especially.
Me: He sings the song about that!
posted by Mavri at 1:32 PM on January 12, 2016 [14 favorites]


via Yahoo! News: The White House is billing President Obama’s seventh and final State of the Union address as “untraditional,” an opportunity to move beyond the usual laundry list of policy proposals and ambitions toward a broader consideration of the president’s legacy and the country’s direction.

Oh, man, I hope Lin is involved in this somehow.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 1:35 PM on January 12, 2016 [2 favorites]


oh dang i absolutely cannot listen to burn, either on its own or in the show, unless i have a good 20 minutes afterwards to just pace around the house silently while i recover. the "you you YOU" part absolutely destroys me.
posted by nadawi at 1:53 PM on January 12, 2016 [6 favorites]


What amazes me is, yes, it seems so effortless and natural and "yeah, of course there are a bunch of people of color rapping on a Broadway stage about the American Revolution" but the more you listen to the cast recording and the more you read about it, the more you realize that it is the product of unbelievably painstaking labor. Certainly by LMM, who wove together such a tight, complex, and kind of perfect peace of art over 6 years, but also by the whole company. And yet it really does seem effortless.

Yeah, isn't there some quote about genius meaning somebody who can make something super difficult seem effortless?

"My Shot" took him a full year to write, and is just so damn good. Like, yeah, obviously the whole show is, but everything about "My Shot" is just unbelievably good.
posted by kmz at 2:02 PM on January 12, 2016


I ... have banned myself from listening to anything past "Burn" because I don't have the time, at this particular juncture of my life, for spending a half hour breaking my own heart

I used to be devastated by the second act, and basically never listened to it, but by this point I've heard the entire album so much that I've developed a emotional tolerance and just jump straight into Stay Alive redux, like okay, fuck me up.

It's pretty nice when you can get past the point of being furious about Say No To This and appreciate what a freaking good song it is. My appreciation for Jefferson's songs has also grown, if not my appreciation of the dude himself. (Reading the bio right now, Jefferson comes off even worse than in the show! The show tries to be sympathetic to his support for the French revolution, but holy shit, no way man.)
posted by Solon and Thanks at 2:14 PM on January 12, 2016 [4 favorites]


Also, a note: the biggest difference I found between the soundtrack (which I had listened to about a thousand times before I saw the actual show) and the show itself is that Diggs's fake French accent is moderately less terrible in the show itself.
posted by Itaxpica at 2:18 PM on January 12, 2016


oh, I dunno! Maybe agree to disagree, but I'm pretty fluent in French and while I don't think his accent is amazing, it doesn't stick out to me as obviously bad. Especially given the ridiculous situations he's using it in.
posted by Solon and Thanks at 2:22 PM on January 12, 2016 [1 favorite]


Mefites who have seen the show, how does the live show handle the "rewind" portion of Satisfied? On the album they have rewinding sound effects and they process Angelica's voice to repeat it a few times, but I heard an early live recording where they just jump to the next part of the song with no fanfare.
posted by brookedel at 2:39 PM on January 12, 2016 [1 favorite]


It sounds just like it does on the album, with the added bonus of absolutely incredible staging - they use the rotating stage to literally rewind back to the stage as it looked at the beginning of Helpless and go from there, but this time from Angelica's perspective.
posted by Itaxpica at 3:04 PM on January 12, 2016 [3 favorites]


there are so many times when I want to jump through time and give Eliza a hug.
posted by angrycat at 3:20 PM on January 12, 2016 [5 favorites]


I don't keep up with the other Ham threads so apologies if this was posted already, but fans of "One Last Time" will enjoy Lin and Chris's performance at the Washington Book Prize presentation. Scroll ahead to 01:06 for the song. Also, Chernow speaks at 00:26 and Lin gets the award at 00:52 (and there is a lot of blah-blah-blah official event stuff in between).
posted by Sweetie Darling at 4:00 PM on January 12, 2016 [6 favorites]


we've seen a tiny bit of the rewind portion - maybe 60 minutes? maybe something else? there are hidden links on youtube to every second of the show that's been part of any tv package, but they get taken down as soon as they hit tumblr or whatever.

i haven't seen it - but from reading and watching everything i can get my hands on it seems like the double turntables are used best during the duels and satisfied.

it's also my impression that there's a single scene that is not on the soundtrack. are there more than that?
posted by nadawi at 7:40 PM on January 12, 2016


Nope, IIRC just the one (between Dear Theodosia and Non-Stop, when Hamilton finds out Laurens has died).
posted by Itaxpica at 7:44 PM on January 12, 2016 [2 favorites]


For those of you who have nearly memorized one or more Hamilton songs, what's the one line you keep forgetting?

Um, if I knew, then I could answer the question...
posted by jenfullmoon at 7:50 PM on January 12, 2016


Those of you hungry for more links, interviews, clips, etc. might love the Hamiltunes community on Dreamwidth.

The actual rewinding on "Satisfied" is indeed awesome. At the start the actors literally walk backwards, and a bunch of the blocking is similar for the "I'm going to change your life.... I'll leave you to it" dialogue. Some more things that I loved when I got to see it (one of the $10 front-row tickets, one of the luckiest pieces of luck I've ever had):

* How much paper there is, constantly passing from person to person, being written on or read from or (in one instance) as handbills tossed in the air
* George Washington handing a quill to Hamilton when offering him the right-hand man position, and then a sword when giving him a military command, and then a quill when asking him to help write Washington's farewell address ... and then Hamilton during "Hurricane" taking a quill from Maria Reynolds
* The props and staging during "Hurricane" evoking the everything-jumbled mental state of Hamilton's situation by comparison with the effects of a hurricane
* The King remaining onstage and dancing a bit during the first bit of "The Adams Administration"
* Maria Reynolds's and Alexander's body language and interpersonal physical interactions, helping me see how Hamilton succumbed to his lust for her
posted by brainwane at 6:14 AM on January 13, 2016 [2 favorites]


The King dancing in "The Adams Administration" is my favorite thing ever.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 6:29 AM on January 13, 2016


someone storyboarded the crucial moments of 'the world was wide enough.'
posted by nadawi at 7:11 AM on January 13, 2016 [2 favorites]


hamilton week continues! Browse the Backstage Hamilton Cutout That Celebrities Sign When They See the Show and as a bonus, lin tells us something (and another) not included.
posted by nadawi at 7:46 AM on January 13, 2016




How does a Berklee hotshot halfway to an EGOT end up playing keyboards on a tribute to a melting pot, spend half a decade working to eliminate its weak spots, and find himself sitting at the right hand of a juggernaut?

what a fantastic opening sentence.

also, lacamoire is always giving little tidbits and gifts on his twitter
posted by nadawi at 9:26 AM on January 13, 2016 [2 favorites]


My three-year-old is obsessed with the one line: "I'm a general. Whee!" And I have caught him singing "I am not throwing away my shot!" to his toys. We have had the soundtrack for all of one week.
posted by arcticwoman at 10:06 AM on January 13, 2016 [6 favorites]


what a fantastic opening sentence.

so many articles try to do that, and this is the first I've seen that actually scans
posted by Solon and Thanks at 10:34 AM on January 13, 2016 [1 favorite]


Sweetie Darling, thank you so much for that C-SPAN link!

Chernow brought a young relative to the show and that young man declared after seeing it that it had "the best disses I ever heard in my life." Excellent!
posted by brainwane at 5:54 PM on January 13, 2016 [1 favorite]




Oh god, some high school kids covered "It's Quiet Uptown" and now I'm crying. Actually, I started tearing up at just the opening piano notes, goddammit that song.
posted by lunasol at 8:07 PM on January 14, 2016 [5 favorites]


The same high school ensemble also has a great performance video of Wait For It.
posted by matildaben at 9:36 AM on January 15, 2016 [1 favorite]




Brian d’Arcy James, Jonathan Groff, and Andrew Rannells on Playing Hamilton Fan Favorite King George III

this interview has an interesting tidbit for those trying to see the original cast : Groff: “My contract goes until July, so I think I’ll just be here until then."
posted by nadawi at 10:32 AM on January 15, 2016 [2 favorites]




Since we asked upthread about how "Satisfied" is staged, could I ask about "Say No To This"? The moaning on the soundtrack is a bit, um, disconcerting and I would like to prepare myself for what is on stage. They aren't in bed, are they? Lin is such a muppet; I'm not sure I can handle that.
posted by Sweetie Darling at 6:32 PM on January 15, 2016 [1 favorite]


No, they aren't in bed.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 5:37 AM on January 16, 2016


My three-year-old is obsessed with the one line: "I'm a general. Whee!" And I have caught him singing "I am not throwing away my shot!" to his toys. We have had the soundtrack for all of one week.

Mine likes to yell "rise up!" with me in the car.
posted by phearlez at 1:25 PM on January 16, 2016




So I discovered the cast soundtrack a few days ago (yes, yes, it's a very nice rock I've been under etc.) and I LOVE THIS ALL SO MUCH. I babbled about it on facebook and pretty much every friend I have who has teenagers in the house chimed in that their kids have the whole thing memorized , which gives me hope for the future.

Thank you, everyone who makes Hamilton posts and everyone who adds links. My obsession cannot be satisfied by merely listening to the soundtrack all the time.
posted by rtha at 8:21 AM on January 26, 2016 [2 favorites]


hamilton is coming to san fransisco then los angeles as well as chicago and staying on broadway.
posted by nadawi at 8:35 AM on January 26, 2016


Yes, I just saw that! I am already standing in line!
posted by rtha at 8:54 AM on January 26, 2016


I would buy tix right now, but the only way is to subscribe to the entire season, which is kind of a big lift.
posted by suelac at 10:24 AM on January 26, 2016


> Any Hamilton fans who haven't heard Daveed Diggs' solo album, it's well worth checking out.

I am taking this advice as I type this; I've already bought CLPPNG and his solo album is ... wait why I am typing instead of hitting "buy now"? brb.
posted by rtha at 9:30 AM on January 28, 2016


Daveed Diggs and Janelle Monae in the same picture. Metafilter nirvana! (Now all we need is Mallory Ortberg.)
posted by matildaben at 1:32 PM on January 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


'Hamilton' cast gets its shot at the Grammys - live

They'll perform "Alexander Hamilton" via satellite from the Richard Rodgers Theatre. (And tickets will never be available again.)
posted by gladly at 6:32 AM on February 3, 2016 [1 favorite]


As opposed to now?
posted by phearlez at 10:39 AM on February 3, 2016


The Kids love Lin-Manuel as much as they love Snapchat.
posted by lunasol at 8:50 PM on February 4, 2016


Lin-Manuel on Drunk History? I didn't know how much I wanted to see it until I realized that I have to wait months.
posted by gladly at 5:56 PM on February 7, 2016 [1 favorite]


Lin on Drunk History is basically my Super Bowl.
posted by purpleclover at 11:50 PM on February 7, 2016


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