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posted by infinitewindow at 1:36 PM on January 16, 2016 [37 favorites]


Canada! The sensible Dave Franco to America's increasingly confusing James.
posted by The Whelk at 1:42 PM on January 16, 2016 [11 favorites]


Paging Justin's father, Great White North, and the last time the NYT ran this same article.
posted by blucevalo at 1:51 PM on January 16, 2016 [8 favorites]


But the notion that our neighbor to the north is a frozen cultural wasteland populated with hopelessly unstylish citizens is quickly becoming so outdated as to be almost offensive.
Almost offensive, but you know us Canadians, we're too nice to actually take offense.
posted by jeather at 1:53 PM on January 16, 2016 [10 favorites]


They love us when the loonie's low.
posted by Jode at 2:03 PM on January 16, 2016 [39 favorites]


Some day the NYT Style section will get to write an article like this about itself. Not any time soon, mind you, but it's bound to become relevant eventually, seeing as it's apparently immortal. Once it outlives everything else, bam!
posted by Sys Rq at 2:06 PM on January 16, 2016


No mention of the Trailer Park Boys?
posted by Catblack at 2:09 PM on January 16, 2016 [2 favorites]


When has Canada ever not been hip?
posted by yeolcoatl at 2:09 PM on January 16, 2016


It's like Rob Ford never existed!
posted by srboisvert at 2:11 PM on January 16, 2016 [5 favorites]


So... is Canada still working on this thing?
posted by effbot at 2:11 PM on January 16, 2016 [1 favorite]


What? Canada is now, and has always been, a bastion of cool. We're like the Wilfred Brimley of coolness.
posted by the uncomplicated soups of my childhood at 2:20 PM on January 16, 2016 [3 favorites]


eh.
posted by Fizz at 2:20 PM on January 16, 2016


The list is bullshit being that I am not on it.
posted by Keith Talent at 2:23 PM on January 16, 2016


Yeah I hate this article every time someone writes it. Name the only 5 things you know about Canada!
It always seems to say much more about American xenophobia than it does about us.
Also I went to high school with Joe Zee. He and my (now) wife got into trouble on a grade 10 band trip to Boston. I think they threw patio furniture into the pool of the family's house they were staying at or something like that.
posted by chococat at 2:23 PM on January 16, 2016 [5 favorites]


I love it when the New York Times periodically rediscovers that there's life and culture outside of the five boroughs..
posted by octothorpe at 2:26 PM on January 16, 2016 [22 favorites]


There are FIVE?!?
posted by The Whelk at 2:33 PM on January 16, 2016 [42 favorites]


Yeah, Canada is not so much hip as it's on sale for 30% off, country-wide.

It's as hip as a factory outlet store on the way to your bubbie's house. And I say that as a Canadian.

That said, if you're not from New York, Toronto and Montreal are pretty passable substitutes for the Big Apple. Relive the roaring 80's by taking in Phantom on stage in Toronto. Head up to Montreal for the International Film Festival this spring. Eat at a fancy restaurant. Have locals scowl at you as you try to navigate public transit badly. Enjoy multi-story buildings. Maybe you'll catch an unannounced Holy Fuck show at the Horseshoe.
posted by GuyZero at 2:36 PM on January 16, 2016 [11 favorites]


Every time NYT puts out a "hip" piece my brain goes to How do you do, fellow kids?
posted by fatehunter at 2:45 PM on January 16, 2016 [7 favorites]


> They love us when the loonie's low.

Shit up here is going to be more "poverty chic" than hip for the next little while.
posted by The Card Cheat at 2:53 PM on January 16, 2016 [1 favorite]


As an American that watches Hockey Night in Canada, I get to see Canadian TV ads. Then the Justin Trudeau ad came on, where he's talking to the crowd, exhorting against the "politics of fear," and then he finishes with, "We have the chance to beat fear with hope. This is Canada. And in Canada, better is always possible."

... Well, I totally fell in luuuuuuurve. He's so dreamy. Dude, I wanted to throw a hotel room key through the TV. Can I be Canadian now, too? Please?
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 2:57 PM on January 16, 2016 [12 favorites]


No, the cool Canadians would never watch hnic.
posted by Keith Talent at 3:04 PM on January 16, 2016


Just because you don't talk about it doesn't mean you don't watch.
posted by From Bklyn at 3:08 PM on January 16, 2016 [5 favorites]


Besides only knowing half of the people (way too many fashion people on that list) did anyone else find it weird that the subjects [mixed] ancestry (and sometimes religion!) was only mentioned when the person was non-white?
posted by saucysault at 3:08 PM on January 16, 2016 [2 favorites]


All white Canadians are identical and interchangeable, so it makes sense.
posted by GuyZero at 3:14 PM on January 16, 2016 [5 favorites]


Well, that and it's really hard for Americans to differentiate between any Canadian, what with our flappy heads and beady eyes.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 3:20 PM on January 16, 2016 [9 favorites]


I knew something was up last night when Australian Netfix offered "Canadian" as a category to browse. That's when you know you have made it culturally as a country.
posted by drnick at 3:23 PM on January 16, 2016 [5 favorites]


No, the cool Canadians would never watch hnic.

/me sadly tears maple leaf patch from backpack
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 3:24 PM on January 16, 2016 [3 favorites]


cool Canadians don't watch f***ing hockey, they played it for at least a decade, have scars to prove it, but roundabout the time they hit legal drinking age (nineteen in most jurisdictions) they fell in with a weird crowd, discovered art-drugs-anarchy-in-general and fortunately, being Canadian, had room to move, expand, contract, leave the road at well over 80 mph but not hit anything. When dawn finally came (nights are long up here), they realized they were on a beach, nothing but snow or ice in all directions. The car wouldn't run anymore but the tape deck still worked. Neil Young if you must know, singing about a different beach, but he'd definitely been there.
posted by philip-random at 3:24 PM on January 16, 2016 [19 favorites]


1. I hope it's not "New York hip" because being a USian near the border when the exchange rate is what it is now is like the Best Thing Ever. European designer clothes that cost less than The Gap. Cheap world class skiing. A weekend at the Fairmont Vancouver for like a hundred bucks a night. I know it's selfish, but it's a dream to go visit a version of America that's not totally broken for 70 cents on the dollar.

2. Any USian that doubts that Canadians are the best people ever, should go watch Bruce McDonald's film Highway 61, like right now. Twee, subversive, and hilariously precious long before any of that was cool in NYC. Jello Biafra plays a border guard and Earl Pastko as Satan funds his soul-buying cleaning up at small town church bingo games along the way.

3. I kinda like the way their cartoon-like heads flap up and down while they fart on each other.

4. No mention of Rush, either unironically or Hollywood's new ironic comedic appreciation.

5. This article is pretty stupid and condescending, starting with the assumption that there are people who have never heard of Canada.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 3:25 PM on January 16, 2016 [14 favorites]


I knew something was up last night when Australian Netfix offered "Canadian" as a category to browse

Look, the Ginger Snaps series isn't going to watch itself.
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 3:25 PM on January 16, 2016 [5 favorites]


2. Any USian that doubts that Canadians are the best people ever, should go watch Bruce McDonald's film Highway 61, like right now. Twee, subversive, and hilariously precious long before any of that was cool in NYC. Jello Biafra plays a border guard and Earl Pastko as Satan funds his soul-buying cleaning up at small town church bingo games yt along the way.

Yes, this is a thing you must do.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 3:26 PM on January 16, 2016 [2 favorites]


Well, that and it's really hard for Americans to differentiate between any Canadian, what with our flappy heads and beady eyes.

*removes eyes and shakes them*

Comme ça.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 3:32 PM on January 16, 2016 [6 favorites]


If I could live anywhere in the world, British Columbia north of Vancouver would be very, very, very high on the list.
posted by LastOfHisKind at 3:46 PM on January 16, 2016 [2 favorites]


Of course, Canada did invent lumberjack chic.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 3:53 PM on January 16, 2016 [3 favorites]


If I could live anywhere in the world, British Columbia north of Vancouver would be very, very, very high on the list.

Having spent a great summer vacation in Squamish last year, I concur with your plan.
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 3:58 PM on January 16, 2016 [1 favorite]


Oh look! The American media is Discovering! Canada!, a process which seems to happen once every 15 years or so.

It's cyclical, like the tides.
posted by jrochest at 4:09 PM on January 16, 2016 [1 favorite]


So... is Canada still working on this thing?

As of today, it's "up in the air" but it would seem unlikely to go forward, thankfully. What kind of mind looks at the beauty of the Highlands and says, "Yeah, this is cool and all, but you know what this view really needs? A big-ass statue, that's what!"
posted by Jughead at 4:13 PM on January 16, 2016 [1 favorite]


I'm tired of things being hip. Things should go back to being cool.
posted by BitterOldPunk at 4:22 PM on January 16, 2016 [4 favorites]


I used to watch HNIC and then stopped in protest after the whole Rogers thing & they let Tim Thompson go. I'm sure my absence was noticed.

also fuck Don Cherry
posted by barchan at 4:24 PM on January 16, 2016 [2 favorites]


Yeah, fuck Don Cherry.
posted by bonobothegreat at 4:29 PM on January 16, 2016 [4 favorites]


The best is when they write this article and title it "Oh, Canada!"
HAHAHA BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM HAHAHAHA SO FUNNY
posted by chococat at 4:31 PM on January 16, 2016 [8 favorites]


Well, might I respectfully note that with a title like "Oh, Canada" you are kind asking for it. You are safer to go for something like "Advance Australia Fair" which when heard leaves no impression whatsoever except "Girt? What's girt? Why would you have a home that is 'girt by the sea'?"
posted by drnick at 4:48 PM on January 16, 2016


Name the only 5 things you know about Canada!

*pfffft* This American knows lots of fun things about Canada. Canada is inhabited by only one subspecies of walrus, the Atlantic walrus. Sadly the Pacific walrus cannot get to Canada but not because it's not hip enough. Because of ice.
posted by barchan at 5:13 PM on January 16, 2016 [4 favorites]


plus points for the cool flag, colorful money, hockey, Red-Green show. poutine, montreal bagels.
minus points for that ass hat Justin Beiber, snow, more snow, lack of good tex-mex.
posted by shockingbluamp at 5:14 PM on January 16, 2016


How did they miss Fashion Santa?
posted by Adamsmasher at 5:17 PM on January 16, 2016 [8 favorites]


I loved how they quoted S.J. Perelman lauding Canadian Stephen Leacock as a humor writer. I love S.J., and remember loving Leacock and Benchley as a youngster. Dada humorists, all, at their best. Dave Barry's of their time, otherwise.

All three comedic writers are lost to the sands of Canadian and USAian time for most, unfortunately.
posted by kozad at 5:31 PM on January 16, 2016 [2 favorites]


How did they miss Fashion Santa?
exactly
posted by chococat at 5:33 PM on January 16, 2016 [2 favorites]


Sadly the Pacific walrus cannot get to Canada but not because it's not hip enough. Because of ice.

A couple more degrees C and we will have that solved.
posted by Dip Flash at 5:33 PM on January 16, 2016


Our anthem is called O Canada, actually.
posted by Sys Rq at 5:36 PM on January 16, 2016 [1 favorite]


Correct.
posted by chococat at 5:42 PM on January 16, 2016


A couple more degrees C and we will have that solved.

But then Canada won't be cool anymore. *rimshot*
posted by barchan at 5:43 PM on January 16, 2016 [9 favorites]


IN WHICH I THINK ABOUT CANADA UNTIL I HAVE FIVE THINGS:

1) People in Vancouver have a totally different accent than people in Bellingham, even though it's like right next door.
2) Toronto's subway's main line is shaped like a big U.
3) The NDP is probably the most decent political party on this whole continent.
4) There are no electoral districts. there are ridings instead. Ridings is such a great word!
5) even little tiny towns in the Yukon have curling sheets. Curling is the best sport ever invented.

Canada!
posted by You Can't Tip a Buick at 5:56 PM on January 16, 2016 [4 favorites]


6) there's a band from Montreal I think named the Hidden Cameras. They're pretty fun.

okay done now. Canada has been described. by me. everyone can go home now.
posted by You Can't Tip a Buick at 5:56 PM on January 16, 2016 [1 favorite]


7. Poutine is proof that God exists and that the Canadians are the chosen people.
posted by TheNewWazoo at 6:04 PM on January 16, 2016 [6 favorites]


I really hope this thread turns into people just stating random facts about Canada.

8) The town of Springhill, Nova Scotia, went from being a coal mining town to being a coal mining town known for its coal mining disasters to being a town known for the largest coal mine "bump" in North America to a town with the Anne Murray Museum, a trajectory tragic in both economics and infamy.
posted by barchan at 6:06 PM on January 16, 2016 [2 favorites]


So.....
Hipness is based entirely on Canada's mainstream culture?
posted by triangle at 6:21 PM on January 16, 2016


Hmm. Rush must have broken up.








Relax. I'm just kidding.
posted by 4ster at 6:22 PM on January 16, 2016 [2 favorites]


9) Upper Canada being south of Lower Canada is something that really bothered me throughout every Canadian History class I sat through in school.
posted by dismitree at 6:30 PM on January 16, 2016 [13 favorites]


True story: my sister has only evinced any interest in visiting me in Canada after me living here for close to a decade since she heard Maroon 5 will be coming to the Bell Centre in September. Her logic? "Well, Montreal is close to you, right? So we can just go there and come back to your house?"

I live in Kingston.

This is not how geography in Canada works but I guess if you're my sister, it does.

(To be fair, everyone back home really doesn't know a lot about this country, enough where I have now started to get irritated. America!)
posted by Kitteh at 6:33 PM on January 16, 2016 [4 favorites]


I used to do day trips to Kingston, though of course I would leave around dinner.
posted by jeather at 6:36 PM on January 16, 2016


Upper/Lower Canada were so named because of their position in the Great Lakes/St. Lawrence watershed.
posted by Monday, stony Monday at 6:39 PM on January 16, 2016 [2 favorites]


I know many facts about Canada. For instance, it includes a place called Kanata and at least two places called Adanac. Tourist attractions include The Magnetic Hill of New Brunswick, the giant snowman of Beardmore in Ontario, and the Potholes Provincial Park of British Columbia. It's the second-largest country in the world by total area, but only fourth largest by land area since so much of it is lakes and water-filled potholes. It achieved political independence from the UK with the Statute of Westminster in 1931, which most Canadians have probably never heard of. It became considerably more "hip" with a recent change in political leadership, the accession of Queen Elizabeth II in 1953.
posted by sfenders at 6:41 PM on January 16, 2016 [6 favorites]


Random fact: the first X-files series, filmed in Vancouver, arguably set off the huge filming boom that we see today. There was a lot of filming before, but the longevity of that series marked a line that led to the industry we see today -- where it feels like every other TV show is filmed in Vancouver, but Vancouver never plays itself.

X-files (and Highlander) ran long enough to create professionals, both in front of the camera, special effects teams, and technical crew who were able to build their skills and then transfer them to other shows filmed in Vancouver.

Also, without his start on X-files, David Nutter might never have gone onto Game of Thrones.

Even more random: The best help wanted ad I ever saw was for a Highlander location scout: "Your job is to find a new place for my guy to cut someone's head off, every week."
posted by wenat at 7:21 PM on January 16, 2016 [7 favorites]


I have frequent, intense dreams about the Magdalen Islands. Also Toronto has been cooler than NYC since what? 1998?

"Suddenly" - LOL.
posted by Slap*Happy at 7:54 PM on January 16, 2016 [1 favorite]


All of the facts in this thread are 100% correct (69% correct at current exchange rate).
posted by rodlymight at 7:55 PM on January 16, 2016 [5 favorites]


So.....
Hipness is based entirely on Canada's mainstream culture?


Welp, commodity prices are in the toilet. We have export something. Watever's lying around will do, I guess.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 7:55 PM on January 16, 2016


Toronto was always hipper than me. Ain't no shame.
posted by triage_lazarus at 8:11 PM on January 16, 2016


Wherein the New York Times discovers Grimes a mere six years after her first studio album.
posted by 1adam12 at 8:15 PM on January 16, 2016 [5 favorites]


Let's see.
Uh the exports of Canada are numerous in amount.
One thing they export is corn.
Or, as the Indians call it, maize.
Another famous Indian was Crazy Horse.
In conclusion, Canada is a land of contrasts.
Thank you.
posted by blue_beetle at 8:37 PM on January 16, 2016 [8 favorites]


Can I be Canadian now, too? Please?

I feel like that’s the thing, not that Canada is hip (seriously, let’s not get carried away) but that so many Americans wish they lived there now.
posted by bongo_x at 8:47 PM on January 16, 2016 [1 favorite]


And why the hell is it so damn expensive when I’m there, and super cheap the next year? How do they know when I’m going?
posted by bongo_x at 8:48 PM on January 16, 2016 [3 favorites]


Learning that the Canadian national anthem is not sung to the tune of O Tannenbaum was one of the more significant disappointments of my childhood. O Canada, your branches will always be lovely to me.
posted by ChuraChura at 9:51 PM on January 16, 2016 [4 favorites]


They love us when the loonie's low.

Remember 1812!
posted by sebastienbailard at 10:00 PM on January 16, 2016 [3 favorites]


You hip kids get off my snow-covered lawn. You can have my Rush albums when you can pry them out of my frozen fingers.
posted by Ber at 10:09 PM on January 16, 2016 [1 favorite]


10. Tanya Tagaq!

11. La la la human steps!

And speaking of inventing lumberjack chic... Relic!
posted by chapps at 10:37 PM on January 16, 2016 [4 favorites]


any article talking about awesome canadians that doesn't mention Jay Baruchel can just go fuck itself.
posted by 5_13_23_42_69_666 at 2:01 AM on January 17, 2016 [1 favorite]


I love their colorful serapes and sombreros. Canada, si!
posted by Chitownfats at 2:03 AM on January 17, 2016 [1 favorite]


It is so cute that New York thinks it has this much standing. Of course it's a compliment, but it's the same kind of compliment as having a sixth grader think you're cool.

We think you're cool, too, New York!
posted by tel3path at 2:17 AM on January 17, 2016 [1 favorite]


Further Canada facts:

12. The largest island on a lake is Manitoulin Island in Lake Huron, Ontario.

13. The largest lake on an island is Nettilling Lake on Baffin Island, Nunavut.

14. The largest lake on an island in a lake is Lake Manitou on Manitoulin Island in Lake Huron.

15. The largest island in a lake on an island in a lake is Treasure Island in Mindemoya Lake on Manitoulin Island in Lake Huron.

16. The largest island in a lake on an island in a lake on an island is this thing on Victoria Island, Nunavut. [via]
posted by Freelance Demiurge at 2:24 AM on January 17, 2016 [21 favorites]


SCTV
BlueJay Way

and the weirdness of that little known town in the Punjab, Mississauga
posted by infini at 5:31 AM on January 17, 2016


O Canada!
No danger thine!
Firm stands thy watch
Along the Rhine!

I think that's how I remember it going...(or did I dream it?)
posted by Captain l'escalier at 5:47 AM on January 17, 2016


No, Milhouse, you will never be a meme.
posted by baconaut at 6:22 AM on January 17, 2016


No mention of Due South, Canada's single greatest contribution to popular culture, TV drama and Art? (F)eh.
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 6:40 AM on January 17, 2016 [5 favorites]


*claps hands in delight* These Canafacts are just super!
posted by barchan at 7:55 AM on January 17, 2016


It is so cute that New York thinks it has this much standing

I don't make the rules, but rules is rules

Colorado >> Both
posted by aydeejones at 9:03 AM on January 17, 2016


Colorado = Southern Alberta
posted by Sys Rq at 11:49 AM on January 17, 2016 [2 favorites]


Learning that the Canadian national anthem is not sung to the tune of O Tannenbaum was one of the more significant disappointments of my childhood.

Someone should've told this guy.
posted by paperback version at 11:54 AM on January 17, 2016 [1 favorite]


Klaatu
FM
Mashmakhan
posted by philip-random at 11:58 AM on January 17, 2016


Learning that the Canadian national anthem is not sung to the tune of O Tannenbaum was one of the more significant disappointments of my childhood. O Canada, your branches will always be lovely to me.
posted by ChuraChura at 9:51 PM on January 16


We're more than happy to leave that bit of appropriation to Maryland. Seriously, I have no idea how anybody can make it through a rendition of that version without cracking up (or groaning, which tends to be my default response.)
posted by sardonyx at 1:16 PM on January 17, 2016


The CBC wades in and brings Margaret Atwood.
posted by four panels at 3:41 PM on January 17, 2016 [1 favorite]


Journalists may hate twitter, but they sure love writing articles which are nothing but collected random tweets.
posted by GuyZero at 3:48 PM on January 17, 2016 [2 favorites]


Canadian dollar coins get mixed into my US dollar coin rolls in annoying proportions. I'm afraid the bus will know the diff (I use them as tokens because paper takes too long to handle) so I check every roll in the bank lobby now.

I've walked to Canada in the pnw but I've never gotten all the way to a bookstore yet. Working on it.

PS sorry friends of the library for dropping a few loonies in the buy books box!
posted by tilde at 3:56 PM on January 17, 2016


but Vancouver never plays itself .

Retro TV has been showing episodes of "DaVinci's Inquest," a CBC show I had not heard of until this year. It's aggressively set in Vancouver (and before what a friend of mine called the Glass Tower era).

The reader will be left to ponder why an American network called "Retro TV" is now airing 17-year-old episodes of a Canadian TV program.
posted by stannate at 8:11 PM on January 17, 2016


No mention of Due South, Canada's single greatest contribution to popular culture, TV drama and Art? (F)eh.

Not to mention the dramedy that launched a few thousand slashers.

Due South is one of my wife's favorite comfort shows and I do find a certain appeal to it. My two favorite moments are the time when #2 Ray leaves Fraser in the car and Fraser announces that he's going to listen to some music. And he pulls out the frickin' score and just starts reading it. A classical piece begins playing in the background. And then there's the grand finale.
posted by Ber at 9:11 PM on January 17, 2016


Hoorah Davinci's inquest. The real Davinci is beloved to many for his prominent advocacy supporting the movement for safe injection sites.
posted by chapps at 10:03 PM on January 17, 2016


Benton and Ray are locked in a bank vault.
Vecchio: Where the hell did you get a tuning fork?
Fraser: That's not important
posted by Mitheral at 11:27 PM on January 22, 2016 [2 favorites]


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