Canada, Politics, Feminism, Fatherhood
March 27, 2016 4:57 PM   Subscribe

Liz Plank sits down to talk with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in NYC during his recent visit, and asks him (among many other things) what he thinks about 28% of 2000 Americans polled saying they'd try to move to Canada if Trump won the 2016 election, about multiculturalism and diversity, about gender equality, and about balancing fatherhood and politics.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken (24 comments total) 13 users marked this as a favorite
 
Good guy that Trudeau. He's got a good way of looking at things. We need folks like him in the US.
posted by Jernau at 5:14 PM on March 27, 2016 [2 favorites]


Build a wall during his next US visit, don't let him go back! He's ours now!
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 5:39 PM on March 27, 2016 [9 favorites]


If I live to see the day when the US and Canada are represented by two women as gifted and charismatic as Trudeau and Obama are,

I don't know that would just be really really great.

But this is good, too.
posted by an animate objects at 5:59 PM on March 27, 2016 [8 favorites]


Trudeau is easy to like and I admired his dad but having the offspring of a former leader running the country seems like a symptom of something unhealthy in our society.

I'm glad they mentioned the referendum, the Quebec values charter, and the populist support for people like Rob Ford and Donald Trump. We've got our own Koch/Fox News in the form of Quebecor, a Quebec-based, family owned media conglomerate with newspapers and talk radio shows across the country. Christ, it took us nearly 10 years just to get rid of Harper. It's not like we're lacking for blinkered social views.
posted by bonobothegreat at 6:01 PM on March 27, 2016 [13 favorites]


I just want articles to stop being so excited that Sophie Gregoire-Trudeau uses her birth name. First of all, they got married in Quebec; her legal name is still Sophie Gregoire. Second of all, she was known as Sophie Gregoire for quite a while after their marriage, until Justin Trudeau got a national stage, at which point she added his name. Not to say that she shouldn't have done that, but her use of Gregoire isn't a feminist act: rather her addition of Trudeau is a pragmatic, political act.

(This has been bugging me.)
posted by jeather at 6:18 PM on March 27, 2016 [20 favorites]


Yeah all the French Canadian married women that I know (there's only 4) have all kept their names. From what they tell me, it's more uncommon for a woman to change her name after marriage than to keep it.
posted by LizBoBiz at 6:37 PM on March 27, 2016 [3 favorites]


From what they tell me, it's more uncommon for a woman to change her name after marriage than to keep it.

It's not just uncommon - in Quebec, there's no mechanism for a woman to automatically change her name after marriage. She would have to legally apply to change her name the way anyone else would, through a legal application to a judicial body, with an explanation of the extenuating circumstances requiring the name change.
posted by northernish at 6:55 PM on March 27, 2016 [7 favorites]


In the sense that it is essentially impossible to change your name after marriage here. Some people use a married name socially, but not many women Grégoire's age and especially not francophone women.
posted by jeather at 7:00 PM on March 27, 2016


Or, as Slate put it in a headline, Justin Trudeau Reaches Peak Justin Trudeau in This Video About Feminism
posted by Kabanos at 7:00 PM on March 27, 2016 [2 favorites]


The required reminder that Canada also has immigration laws and that even if Hitler-Satan gets elected in Nov you can't just pack up and move to Canada, yanks.

Like, jeez, imagine if the wrong guy got elected in Mexico and all the Mexicans just moved to Texas.
posted by GuyZero at 7:06 PM on March 27, 2016 [12 favorites]


I have long known where I would live in Canada: St John's, Newfoundland. Great bar and restaurant culture and the 2nd mildest climate in Canada...
posted by jim in austin at 7:06 PM on March 27, 2016 [1 favorite]


St John's, Newfoundland...the 2nd mildest climate in Canada...

Who told you that?
posted by bonobothegreat at 7:17 PM on March 27, 2016 [6 favorites]


The first mildest climate in this case is "the rest of Canada."
posted by 256 at 7:19 PM on March 27, 2016 [37 favorites]


St John's - 2nd mildest winters in Canada, but also the foggiest, windiest and cloudiest city in the county. Oh and they average close to 10ft of snowfall a year.
posted by thecjm at 7:52 PM on March 27, 2016 [2 favorites]


And there's the problem. I would happily move to Canada, Trump or no Trump, were it located about 30 degrees or so to the South.
posted by Panjandrum at 8:05 PM on March 27, 2016 [2 favorites]


Hey Canada, wonderful terrifying news about the new influx of immigrants (that you'll deny entrance to)...
Interestingly, though, it's not just liberals. Self-identified Tea Party supporters are slightly more likely than other voters to consider abandoning Trump's America: 31% of them said they were very or somewhat likely to consider it, compared with 27% of non-Tea Partiers.
But yeah, as this article points out every election year has folks threatening to leave the US. And it just doesn't happen. That article has examples of a bunch of Americans that had the means to leave the US if Bush got elected (were literally rich and famous), but they still didn't leave.

That poll in the post was about how many people would 'consider' (not actually promising or pledging to move). Furthermore only 15% said they'd 'very likely consider' moving (another 12% said they were 'somewhat likely to consider' moving).

What I'm saying, Canada, is that there isn't any reason to start working on your wall yet (even though you'd undoubtedly get Trump to pay for it).
posted by el io at 8:47 PM on March 27, 2016


Vancouver and the lower mainland and Victoria (a little rainier in Vancouver, being closer to the mountains, where the warm Pacific air piles up and drops its moisture) enjoy by a quite large margin the warmest climate in Canada. At least back when I lived there decades ago, temperatures in the winter rarely dipped for very long below freezing in the winter.

Which is actually not as good as it sounds, because endless rain and near-freezing temperatures are, I find, way worse than a nice consistent -30 or -40 Celsius under blue skies for a couple of months, like what we had in my hometown growing up: the way the universe intended winter to be.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:55 PM on March 27, 2016 [2 favorites]


We'll all move to Turks And Caicos islands and then Canada can go ahead and annex it!
posted by Harvey Kilobit at 9:38 PM on March 27, 2016 [3 favorites]


I have long known where I would live in Canada: St John's, Newfoundland. Great bar and restaurant culture and the 2nd mildest climate in Canada...

I was there in June without the down liner to my jacket. Oops.
posted by sebastienbailard at 11:02 PM on March 27, 2016 [4 favorites]


And there's the problem. I would happily move to Canada, Trump or no Trump, were it located about 30 degrees or so to the South.

In ten to fifteen years, Canada's northerlyness will be a feature rather than a bug.
posted by mightygodking at 2:00 AM on March 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


If you look at the average winter highs and lows of major Canadian cities, St John's is behind only the Victoria/Vancouver duo. This is in large part to having the Gulf Stream turn eastward as it meets the Labrador Current right off their position. It's also the source of their wildly variable weather. And also the reason for The Grand Banks...
posted by jim in austin at 6:32 AM on March 28, 2016


I live and work in St. John's.

I'm not sure I would classify the -5 and -20 with the windchill we had last week as "mild"
posted by Paladin1138 at 7:01 AM on March 28, 2016


The "mildness" is on average. If you have one foot frozen in a block of dry ice and the other buried in hot glowing coals you are, on average, comfortable...
posted by jim in austin at 7:09 AM on March 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I'm not sure I would classify the -5 and -20 with the windchill we had last week as "mild"

Justin's only been PM for five months...give him a chance, people!
posted by rocket88 at 8:39 AM on March 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


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