Nom Jabbar
April 25, 2016 3:47 PM   Subscribe

 
“What do you despise? By this are you truly known.”
posted by Fizz at 3:49 PM on April 25, 2016


Kwasi Haderachi!

Well I for one find our tiny prickly overlords creepy as all get out.
posted by sammyo at 3:50 PM on April 25, 2016


Cute but creepy.
posted by sammyo at 3:50 PM on April 25, 2016


Did you know spice is the most important thing in the universe?
posted by Farce_First at 3:51 PM on April 25, 2016


Does Goofus know about this?
posted by Abehammerb Lincoln at 3:53 PM on April 25, 2016 [1 favorite]


I was expecting a bitey kitteh, but that was great.
posted by BrotherCaine at 3:54 PM on April 25, 2016 [1 favorite]


I was expecting a bitey kitteh,

I don't know kitteh well enough to know if she bites or not. :p
posted by Fizz at 3:57 PM on April 25, 2016 [1 favorite]


I wanted to dislike this. But hedgehog. Cute is the mind-killer.
posted by Splunge at 4:10 PM on April 25, 2016 [5 favorites]


I may be a womanchild but I am more than happy to hang out with a hedgehog for considerably longer.
I suppose if so exposed I might squee myself out of existence, however.
posted by nat at 4:19 PM on April 25, 2016


It's been a while, I admit, but that's not how I remember that scene in the book at all.
posted by fantabulous timewaster at 4:23 PM on April 25, 2016 [5 favorites]


Nature knows no fury like a caged hedgehog.
posted by doctor_negative at 4:27 PM on April 25, 2016


Also I was actually expecting something food related, given this quote: "Spice is in everything here. You breathe it and eat it in almost everything."

Or maybe something with a certain pug?

And separately.. I am now confused about the plot of Dune. Because the quote continues with: "And I find it imparts a certain natural immunity to some of the most common poisons of the Assassins' Handbook. And the need to watch every drop of water puts all food production - yeast culture, hydroponics, chemavit, everything - under the strictlest surveillance. We cannot kill of large segments of our population with poison - and we cannot be attacked this way, either."

So.. why does Yueh give the duke a poison tooth? And how come the poison dart that stabs the Duke works in the first place?
posted by nat at 4:30 PM on April 25, 2016 [2 favorites]


Now do it with Flash Gordon.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 4:33 PM on April 25, 2016 [4 favorites]


In before 200 views. Somehow.

Anyway, here's Eon with Fear is the Mind Killer. There is no finer example of haphazard breakbeat techno with film samples, from 199X.
posted by asok at 4:38 PM on April 25, 2016


For MBMBAM 300, a classic MBMBAM bit: Gom Jabbar
posted by kmz at 4:41 PM on April 25, 2016 [3 favorites]


You have to work really hard to wrong a lol out of these old bones with a cute animal mashup these days but dang if they didn't got me good. You got me good lil guy! Got me so good. Chuckle.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 5:34 PM on April 25, 2016 [1 favorite]


 _   __      _ _                 _               _ _ 
| | / /     | | |               | |             | | |
| |/ / _   _| | | __      ____ _| |__   __ _  __| | |
|    \| | | | | | \ \ /\ / / _` | '_ \ / _` |/ _` | |
| |\  \ |_| | | |  \ V  V / (_| | | | | (_| | (_| |_|
\_| \_/\__,_|_|_|   \_/\_/ \__,_|_| |_|\__,_|\__,_(_)
                                                     
                                                     
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 5:38 PM on April 25, 2016 [5 favorites]


Ai thpit out ma milk. It kem out by dose.
posted by cleroy at 5:44 PM on April 25, 2016 [1 favorite]


If you had told me what was in the box, I would have been sold from the beginning.

Also, I said those lines before taking the LSAT. It didn't help.
posted by susiswimmer at 6:12 PM on April 25, 2016


If you walk without rhythm you won't attract the hedgehog.
posted by Joey Michaels at 6:57 PM on April 25, 2016 [7 favorites]


So.. why does Yueh give the duke a poison tooth? And how come the poison dart that stabs the Duke works in the first place?

Near as I can reckon:

House Atreides wasn't what would be considered heavy consumers of spice - if at all - before being assigned to Arrakis. Not all of the Great Houses consumed spice, and most likely didn't do it beyond low level geriatric protection thresholds.

It's worth remembering that not only is the Spice mortally addictive once you become addicted but it's also the singularly most valuable and fantastically expensive material in the known universe. It would be very inadvisable and foolish to become fully addicted to it without plans to stockpile it and have your own lifetime supply.

And as a counter example, House Harkonnen used a lot more than most Houses. Further, I believe Lady Jessica is mainly spice naive as well. It's not mentioned in any of the prequels that she had had the Water of Life ritual-orgy before leading her own Water of Life transformation on Dune.

And if I recall correctly, earlier in the book Paul really only gets his first real taste of Spice in threshold quantities from his first meals on Arrakis, and this triggers his latent/repressed prescience and starts him off on his terrible purpose and the Golden Path and all of that other stuff.

Now, the Fremen were a different story, and they (or other heavy users) would have been consuming enough spice since birth that they would have developed immunities to certain poisons. They not only consumed spice with meals, but seitch orgies would have been a regular thing, not to mention spice coffee, beer, rugs, materials/plastics and so on.

They're soaking in it, which is what the quote is really directly talking about. It's not about the known universe, just Dune/Arrakis - and in particular the Fremen.

That's why their eyes are blue-within-blue. Paul and Jessica's eyes don't shift color until rather later in the story, probably during or after their Water of Life ceremony.

On a scale of one to gluttonous Harkonnen, a deep desert Fremen naturally consumes so much spice that they probably beat out not just the most of the Great Houses, but perhaps even the Emperor in day to day and lifelong consumption.

Though rather much less than a Guildsman, otherwise they'd probably be Guildsman.

And last - what Assassin worth employing by a Great House would send a common poison against the Duke or family of another Great House? It would be too easy to detect with their poison sniffers, and the family members of any given House would have probably trained themselves against whatever common poisons they could train an immunity for.

Plus you'd be the laughing stock of CHOAM and the Landsraad just for the sheer lack of style alone, much less such a clumsy failed attempt.

And if I'm recalling correctly it's intimated at a few places in the books that poisons are one of the least artful methods of assassination and an act of desperation, frustration if not cowardice compared to more direct forms like kanly, open conflict or a plain old dagger between the ribs, or less subtle and stylish than a grandly ornate trap or double-crossing and the Great Houses are really big on style points when it came to assassinations.

But the Harkonnens aren't so big on style points as they are on winning, and Yueh was on a revenge mission and just wanted Baron Harkonnen dead.
posted by loquacious at 10:27 PM on April 25, 2016 [10 favorites]


Aah, kids.
posted by sebastienbailard at 10:54 PM on April 25, 2016


Misread link and expected Klaus Nomi. And it sorta worked for me.
posted by hal9k at 12:37 AM on April 26, 2016 [1 favorite]


Genius.
posted by bonobothegreat at 4:04 AM on April 26, 2016


Nom Jabbar is a solid pun.
posted by Mezentian at 6:02 AM on April 26, 2016


Lesson learned - do not put finger in bald woman's box.
posted by jenh526 at 12:13 PM on April 26, 2016


« Older Enter the Tingleverse   |   Sorry, you're not sick enough. Newer »


This thread has been archived and is closed to new comments