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Why was Turkish Delight the ultimate temptation in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe?
posted by Chrysostom (65 comments total) 38 users marked this as a favorite
 
...because Edmund Pevensie had terrible taste in candy.
posted by Kitteh at 12:10 PM on August 8, 2016 [37 favorites]


This is a lovely read, thank you.
posted by Hermione Granger at 12:18 PM on August 8, 2016


Good article - I don't get why so many see the idea of Turkish Delight as incredibly silly in the context of Lewis' story. Americans don't eat the stuff; I don't even know if it's that big a deal in England nowadays. But the article does a great job of explaining why it would be considered a great treat for a young boy, in that era especially. And I'd never even thought about the Christmas foreshadowing.

The idea that any kind of sweet or candy (or food, period) doesn't seem to bear the dramatic weight it's called on to carry may miss the point. Don't forget that it was a story for children. In another context maybe sexual temptation or greed for power or wealth would make more sense. But a ten year old reader might not really "get" those ideas like they would candy.

And there's a somewhat older story involving fruit... Lewis may have had that in mind...
posted by randomkeystrike at 12:21 PM on August 8, 2016 [12 favorites]


Related, previously
posted by Mogur at 12:21 PM on August 8, 2016 [1 favorite]


I've read about Turkish Delight in this context before, but I've not seen such a vivid explanation for why it'd be Edmund's 30 peices of silver. This is good stuff.
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 12:22 PM on August 8, 2016 [6 favorites]


I came here to say "because rationing" as it's the answer to the why of many dubious British foods. Decided to read the article first. Turns out it's because rationing.
posted by Helga-woo at 12:25 PM on August 8, 2016 [40 favorites]


Yeah to be fair, Edmund was like 9 years old at the time, and probably just naming the fanciest treat he could think of. At that age I would have sold out both of my brothers for half a snickers dug out from between the couch cushions.

Also this is a really interesting article. And Turkish delight is delicious.
posted by specialagentwebb at 12:26 PM on August 8, 2016 [10 favorites]


Before long, their wishes came true: Importation to England began in 1861, when lokum was known as “Lumps of Delight.”

Also a Black Eyed Peas song.
posted by maxsparber at 12:26 PM on August 8, 2016 [10 favorites]


As a teenager, I formulated a theory that "Turkish delight" was a euphemism for some unspeakable sex act. Given Lewis's personal history, I thought that he had thrown it in as an undercover shout-out to old friends.

Once my hormones leveled out and I aged to the point of being able to think about something other than sex for an extended period of time, I accepted that Lewis probably was talking about that terrible garbage-candy.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 12:27 PM on August 8, 2016 [30 favorites]


As a teenager, I formulated a theory that "Turkish delight" was a euphemism for some unspeakable sex act.

Oh good, I'm not the only one.
posted by indubitable at 12:29 PM on August 8, 2016 [7 favorites]


You wouldn't be saying that if, instead of candy, he had talked about pot brownies or craft beer or fine wine.
posted by tel3path at 12:33 PM on August 8, 2016 [2 favorites]


As a teenager, I formulated a theory that "Turkish delight" was a euphemism for some unspeakable sex act.

Costs a Hundred Thousand Dollar Bar, Same As In Town.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:33 PM on August 8, 2016 [10 favorites]


Nice read. I was totally confused when I finally had Turkish Delight in Turkey. It was so normal ... the name conjured up something far more exotic and exciting than a gum drop. I was more confused given all the amazing desserts you can find in Istanbul; I thought that Lewis must've been referring to some other Turkish Delight that they don't make anymore.
posted by kanewai at 12:41 PM on August 8, 2016 [2 favorites]


What Helga-woo said. It's also worth pointing out that rationing was still going on well into the fifties when these books were published so the young readers would still have been able to relate.

As an '80s kid (Fry's) Turkish Delight used to be the thing left till last from my Christmas [Chocolate] Selection Box, but these days some half-decent lokum is a seasonal staple. Yum! (fwiw: would not sell soul or siblings for)
posted by comealongpole at 12:41 PM on August 8, 2016 [1 favorite]


Turkish Delight, after trying it for the first time, was determined to be a cruel joke along the same lines as the chewing gum by the name of "Thrills" (which tasted like detergent).
posted by some loser at 12:47 PM on August 8, 2016 [2 favorites]


Interesting. I figured there was exoticism to it, but the difficulty of production and the rationing I didn't know.

I've had turkish delight before. It's neat, but it loses its luster before you finish a package, I've found.
posted by kafziel at 12:58 PM on August 8, 2016


Then again I'm on a ketogenic diet right now so I'd murder someone for it.
posted by kafziel at 1:05 PM on August 8, 2016 [1 favorite]


Then again I'm on a ketogenic diet right now so I'd murder someone for it.

I have Gestational Diabetes, and it's definitely off limits until this kid pops out of me.

I would probably trade my siblings for some right now if it wouldn't spike my numbers.

(I rather like Turkish Delight, even the rose-flavored ones.)
posted by offalark at 1:07 PM on August 8, 2016 [3 favorites]


Nice read. I was totally confused when I finally had Turkish Delight in Turkey.

There, they just call it regular delight.
posted by overeducated_alligator at 1:26 PM on August 8, 2016 [19 favorites]


It always seemed like a strange choice to me, too.

This also made me think about a food reference in The Horse and His Boy. I can't remember the exact wording, but it was something about how bread was better with butter rather than oil. As a matter of fact, this whole book starts of in an exotic/Turkish sort of setting. It took until I was an adult to connect the dots about bread dipped in olive oil.
posted by annsunny at 1:28 PM on August 8, 2016 [1 favorite]


When I was in university I was at a variety store with a friend and he bought a Big Turk. When I asked him why he ate those things he replied "Nobody ever asks to share."
posted by The Card Cheat at 1:35 PM on August 8, 2016 [8 favorites]


You know what I like? Turtles.

I rather think I did sell my soul to buy a case (as in, a suitcase) of them on my recent trip Stateside.

(No, really, though. Chocolate is known to be the product of slavery unless otherwise stated, and I also was in debt when I bought them. It's depressingly easy to sell your soul.)
posted by tel3path at 1:36 PM on August 8, 2016 [2 favorites]


With an adult palate and memories of how revolting 11-year-old me thought Turkish delight was, I'd like to try some now. The stuff I tried on that trip certainly wasn't delicate.

Of course I've given marzipan additional chances and regretted it every time, so maybe one Turkish delight was indeed enough.
posted by fedward at 1:43 PM on August 8, 2016 [2 favorites]


The first time I read the books, I was so young I somehow got it in my head that Turkish Delight was some delicious way of cooking/serving turkey. I remember re-reading the book later and getting to that part and thinking, "Huh? I thought I remembered her serving him some big meal, not candy."
posted by straight at 1:44 PM on August 8, 2016 [3 favorites]


Welcome to Your Favorite Candy Sucks, hosted by me, fedward. Today on our show: the Mounds bar.
posted by fedward at 1:45 PM on August 8, 2016 [11 favorites]


Jeez, buncha haters here. I love Turkish delight! I don't think I had it until I was an adult, but I was eager to try it (because of the book). I wasn't disappointed at all, although it maybe wasn't something I'd have sold my soul for. But the few times I've had it I've been unable to stop myself from eating it all.

Maybe different people like different things, or maybe I just have terrible taste ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
posted by teponaztli at 1:51 PM on August 8, 2016 [9 favorites]


You know what I like? Turtles.

I was at a coffee shop in Minneapolis once, and they had turtle bars in the case. As is my occasional practice, I asked the counterguy if the turtle in the turtle bars was canned or fresh. Without missing a beat, he said "Frozen. They bring the turtles up and flash-free them right there on the deck." He then took a long look to each side, leaned forward and whispered "They're endangered sea turtles." Since my bluff had been so masterfully called, I had to buy one. It was OK. I wouldn't sell a brother for it, not even my least-favorite brother.
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:13 PM on August 8, 2016 [39 favorites]


It's a very appropriate thing for him to be eating because the evidence of your guilty overindulgence winds up literally everywhere, no matter how careful you are. You take that deal, and it marks you. Judas' story is as much about guilt as anything else. It seems appropriate for betrayal to come wrapped in powdered sugar, is what I'm saying.

It's also the thing I remind myself every time I'm tempted to buy it, that I'm going to consume the entire box in an evening, and I'm going to feel terrible about it afterwards. Lewis was more merciful to his betrayer than his source material was, and also more merciful than my stomach being confronted with a solid 8 ounces of sugar.
posted by Sequence at 2:15 PM on August 8, 2016 [18 favorites]


Of course I've given marzipan additional chances and regretted it every time, so maybe one Turkish delight was indeed enough.

In this case: As someone who is generally not fond of almonds but still has a soft spot for marzipan, let me assure you that Turkish delight is not better than marzipan. Let sleeping disappointments lie.
posted by psoas at 2:24 PM on August 8, 2016 [1 favorite]


FWIW as a kid I would have taken turkish delight over marizpan any time.

Plus, it's like silicone before silicone was a thing! Squeeze it and it keeps its volume, but still reverts back to shape. Rubber was too solid to do that. Foam rubber just compressed. The tactile properties of Turkish delight stood unique and alone among the solids (that were available to children) until the invention of silicone enabled the invention of the silicone stress-ball :)
posted by -harlequin- at 2:35 PM on August 8, 2016


I like Turkish delight, but I've also not read any of the Narnia books. It's a perfectly fine candy as long as you don't expect it to be the physical realization of man's fallibility in the face of temptation.
posted by Pyry at 2:36 PM on August 8, 2016 [23 favorites]


I somehow got it in my head that Turkish Delight was some delicious way of cooking/serving turkey. I remember re-reading the book later and getting to that part and thinking, "Huh? I thought I remembered her serving him some big meal, not candy."

Maybe you were unconsciously blending in the turkey dinner in A Wrinkle in Time?
posted by praemunire at 2:41 PM on August 8, 2016 [3 favorites]


I was so fascinated by the concept of this mythical candy, when I was a wee otterlass, that I tracked down a recipe and tried to MAKE Turkish Delight, at age ... 8 or so. With tolerant but "it won't be as good as you think" help from Mom with the boiling of sugar and so forth. I even got actual rose-water from a bemused pharmacist.

Reader, it WAS awful. Stuck to the pan, etc etc.

I was only just starting to 'get' the Christian allegory in the Narnia books and now I suspect this was the beginning of my disillusionment with all things religious.

LIES. STICKY, GUMMY, FLAVORLESS LIES.
posted by The otter lady at 2:41 PM on August 8, 2016 [22 favorites]


It reminds me of the American Captain strip where Steve Rogers is delighted that in this present day, he can buy loads and loads of oranges.

Oh nooo, the comic isn't online anymore? *cries*
posted by cadge at 2:43 PM on August 8, 2016 [1 favorite]


It's a perfectly fine candy as long as you don't expect it to be the physical realization of man's fallibility in the face of temptation.

To be fair, I find the stickiness of my fingers and the powered sugar that gets everywhere a fine metaphor for the Fallen Nature of Humanity and the Omnipresence of Sin. On the other hand, I was raised by a conservative Lutheran minister.
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:45 PM on August 8, 2016 [11 favorites]


Fry's Turkish delight is inedible cloying rose-flavored jelly, but proper nut lokum, preferably the double pistachio from Ali Muhiddin Hacı Bekir (purveyors of fine sweets since 1777) is indeed delightful. I always come back from İstanbul with at least a kilo of that stuff stowed in the suitcase, and now half of my relatives are addicted to it as well.

What surprised me, the first time I tried the real thing, was its resemblance to Aplets & Cotlets, a classic Northwest candy I'd grown up eating. Later, I found out that the original makers were Ottoman Armenian immigrants, producing their own twist on a sweet from home with the products of the Washington orchards where they'd ended up. After that I started bringing a couple of boxes of Aplets & Cotlets with me every time I flew back to Turkey, as gifts for friends and colleagues there who were inevitably amused by this American mutation of a familiar foodstuff.
posted by karayel at 2:57 PM on August 8, 2016 [15 favorites]


The first time I read the books, I was so young I somehow got it in my head that Turkish Delight was some delicious way of cooking/serving turkey

well, to be fair, Turkish cuisine does in fact feature a sweet pudding made from pounded chicken breast. And it's actually pretty tasty.

(incidentally, in Turkish the turkey is called a hindi, i.e., a bird from India--which is the case in French and several other languages as well. It's a very linguistically confusing fowl.)
posted by karayel at 3:04 PM on August 8, 2016 [5 favorites]


Fry's Turkish Felight is pretty ..inedible but Turkish Nut-Rosewater candies are a delight, if not exactly equal to mans capacity for fallibility

(I also thought about the English boarding school tradition, which the kids are stuck within at various times in the series, and how it was normal practice to starve them for lengths of time or serve only the meanest, blandest flood)
posted by The Whelk at 3:10 PM on August 8, 2016 [1 favorite]


I thought in the book the choice of Turkish Delight was meant to be idiosyncratic, just Edmund's personal quirk; I think Lewis intended it to be a bit unexpected - not obviously the most desirable food ever created.

why lokum has never been successfully manufactured in Europe

Obviously no true lokum could ever be made in Europe, but Fry's factory and others turned out Turkish Delight in vast quantities.
posted by Segundus at 3:15 PM on August 8, 2016


There's a new cafe in my city that sells Turkish Delight. Or they have it available for sale, anyway. All pretty and sitting under a glass dome on a little pedestal and I'm sure if you bought and ate it through some wild comedy of errors it would taste as awful as every other piece of Turkish Delight ever made.

I'm pretty certain there's a giant block of it somewhere they've been carving away at and trying to get rid of for the past 60 years.
posted by the uncomplicated soups of my childhood at 3:20 PM on August 8, 2016 [1 favorite]


Incidentally, is the word 'aslan' really archaic in Turkish?
posted by Segundus at 3:21 PM on August 8, 2016


Candy in children's books often seems better than it is. In "Little Women" the girls were always dreaming about "Marchpane", which turned out to be marzipane, and the "Mouse and his Child" were always talking about "treacle", which turned out to be molasses.
posted by acrasis at 3:22 PM on August 8, 2016 [2 favorites]


Incidentally, is the word 'aslan' really archaic in Turkish?

nope, it's just the standard word for lion, and in the possessive form (aslanım) it's also a term of endearment, usually for a boy or young man ("my lion!")
posted by karayel at 3:31 PM on August 8, 2016 [6 favorites]


LIES. STICKY, GUMMY, FLAVORLESS LIES.

Flavourless? Here's my recipe (self link, sorry!), and use either 1.5 teaspoons of proper, intense rose water, or a couple of drops of rose oil (food grade, obvs).

The texture is the thing that puts people off so much, I think. Proper good Turkish delight should be like a slightly chewy jelly without being rubbery or like freaking toffee. Apparently it should have the consistency of an ear-lobe - make of that what you will.
posted by ninazer0 at 3:46 PM on August 8, 2016 [8 favorites]


All right, speaking of temptation, I just edited the blog posts from my beach holiday and I do not look nearly as good in that swimsuit and hat as I expected. I have since the beginning of the year lost a good ten percent of my bodyweight through strict calorie counting, aerobicizing faithfully until beet-red, limiting myself to no more than eight frozen coffees with whipped cream in any one day, and as a reward for my diligence I am now firmly placed towards the far smug end of the BMI scale, where it's coloured a bright forest green.

So having stocked up for a bumper swimwear year, it turns out I look like a mushroom in every photo. A fat little squat squashy mushroom, with that... abundant, creamy, frilly quality that fungi often sport at their most flamboyant, oozing over the edges of my designer tankini. All pocked with little craters and dimples of a kind David Attenborough would crouch down and explain in detail to the camera, if he were here.

The ensemble being topped off with a large black wicker lampshade which, when removed, left a blue-black imprint across my forehead that could not be scrubbed off. The overall effect is very much like one of those little candy mushrooms with a marshmallow stem and an indeterminate soft chocolate cap rolled in shredded coconut.

Well, downstairs there is an entire box of gourmet Turkish Delight, marked at 125 calories per piece. There are 18 pieces left in the box. I think you can see where I'm going with this.
posted by tel3path at 4:04 PM on August 8, 2016 [26 favorites]


As a child I remember being so curious what this mysterious candy tasted like that it could be so tempting. I finally tried the real deal as an adult, and thought, 'aaahhh. I finally understand.' It was delicious!
posted by branravenraven at 4:55 PM on August 8, 2016 [4 favorites]


Funny, too, about the aplets and cotlets inspiration. I am from Washington originally and grew up eating aplets and cotlets. I did think of them when I tried lokum, but thought lokum was much more delicious. Aplets and cotlets always was like the Washington version of a holiday fruitcake thrust upon unenthusiastic guests for me.
posted by branravenraven at 5:01 PM on August 8, 2016 [2 favorites]


I love the that list of names for turkey, karayel. Along with ayam belanda or Dutch Chicken , in Malaysia they're also called ayam kluk-kluk , cluck-cluck chickens.
posted by BinGregory at 5:28 PM on August 8, 2016 [1 favorite]


When I read The Chronicles of Narnia as a kid, I imagined that Turkish Delight tasted a lot like toffee, but softer. Maybe because toffee was one of my favorite things at the time. I finally tasted Turkish Delight in my 20s. I liked it fine - still do - but of course it couldn't measure up to my imagination.

This also made me think about a food reference in The Horse and His Boy. I can't remember the exact wording, but it was something about how bread was better with butter rather than oil.

“It was all new and wonderful to Shasta for Calormene food is quite different. He didn’t even know what the slices of brown stuff were, for he had never seen toast before. He didn’t know what the yellow soft thing they smeared on the toast was, because in Calormen you nearly always get oil instead of butter.”

As quoted here.
posted by bunderful at 5:32 PM on August 8, 2016 [2 favorites]


I think you're all skipping over some loser's comment above about Thrills gum. Honestly, it has to be the most amazing candy ever. It seriously is a chewing gum, like a purple Chiclet, with a candy coating, that honestly tastes like soap. And it was around for years.

Just imagine that. Instantly memorable, it was a flavour you absolutely would never forget. Not a joke, not a novelty trick meant to deceive your friends. It just tasted like soap - and people bought it, year after year. Wilfully. On purpose. Like, they could just as easily have bought some Ivory or Dial or whatever instead, and chewed on a chunk of that dipped in sugar. Same taste.

Forget Big Turk (bland jelly in chocolate) or EatMore (the original tar-and-cork bar)... Thrills gum was literally the worst treat imaginable.

...and if I happen to see it for sale, I'll probably pick up a pack. There is no explanation.
posted by GhostintheMachine at 6:22 PM on August 8, 2016 [1 favorite]


It's Raining Florence Henderson: "As a teenager, I formulated a theory that "Turkish delight" was a euphemism for some unspeakable sex act.

Costs a Hundred Thousand Dollar Bar, Same As In Town.
"

Man, the candy economy has gone to shit lately. The Candy of Living Index is BRUTAL!
posted by Samizdata at 7:13 PM on August 8, 2016 [1 favorite]


I was born the year sweet rationing ended, and my childhood (and later) Christmases always included a range of sweets that we never saw at any other time of the year, including Turkish delight, but also odd little yellow and orange jellies shaped like slices of citrus fruit, and chocolate-covered crystallized ginger pieces. They all came in fancy little wooden boxes of the sort that look as if they might be useful for keeping pins or something in, but that usually end up being thrown away by about March. Posher families would have crystallized fruits, which are genuinely completely flavourless, unlike the Turkish delight which came in rose and lemon.

So I completely understood why Edmund would have wanted Turkish delight. It's not only a delicious sweet (if you like that sort of thing), but very much a special, seasonal treat. It's still sold today, and since it is now already August, I fully expect the shops to start stocking it for Christmas again any day soon.
posted by Fuchsoid at 9:22 PM on August 8, 2016 [6 favorites]


Lovely read. Also I think Turkey would have been more exotic to the children than Narnia. Afterall, their initial experience of Narnia was a snowy wood - not super unusual for them. The mediterranean climate of coastal parts of Turkey would have been amazingly warm for them. Turkish delight probably conjured up all kinds of magical images.

That said, I'm Team Marzipan, not Team Turkish Delight. The marzipan layer on the christmas cake and under the icing was the best part of the whole thing.
posted by kitten magic at 10:29 PM on August 8, 2016 [2 favorites]


Aplets and Cotlets is a Washington thing? That makes sense.
posted by lkc at 12:24 AM on August 9, 2016


You know what's REALLY otherworldly, though? Maple candy.

I spent my entire childhood hearing about maple candy but never tasting it, or indeed seeing it. Bear in mind I lived in the Frozen North, where you couldn't just buy whatever you wanted whenever you wanted it. Also bear in mind I was brought up on a steady diet of Little House on the Prairie where tapping the maple trees was the highlight of their year given that cornmeal mush was the only other thing they ever ate. And then we moved to the UK.

I thought maple candy would be dark and toffee-like and the one time I saw something that was said to be maple candy, that is how it looked. A girl had a piece of something brown and glossy, smaller than a Reese's peanut butter cup, fluted at the edges. It had chopped nuts inside. She unwrapped it from its cellophane and took a bite, and was faced with many curious questions. She said it was maple candy, and nobody else could have any and everybody should go away. She rewrapped the candy with the bite out of it, which led me to believe it must be extremely rich. That she had only one piece affirmed how precious it must be.

I was in my 40s the first time I saw actual maple candy, on sale in Vancouver airport. It was just light brown sugar fondant. I bought as much as I could cram into my cabin bag, meaning to give it away as gifts.

When I got home I took my first bite of it, expecting it to taste like fondant at best. There was a harp glissando and my soul briefly floated above my body.

The only thing I can say in my defense is that I was half-asleep from a long haul flight, but when I woke up I was surrounded by empty maple candy packaging.
posted by tel3path at 5:11 AM on August 9, 2016 [14 favorites]


Full disclosure: I'm holding a piece of maple candy now. It sparkles the way snow used to sparkle on the ground when I was a child. The only possible explanation is that it is lit from within.
posted by tel3path at 5:12 AM on August 9, 2016 [7 favorites]




The thing is, fresh gourmet Turkish Delight is a different experience entirely from the industrial version, let alone the chocolate-coated parody sold by Fry's to be placed in the Christmas stockings of people who don't want it.

Quality is incredibly variable even among the good stuff. But when you stumble across the Platonic ideal of Turkish Delight, it's genuinely special.
posted by tel3path at 7:42 AM on August 9, 2016


As a teenager, I formulated a theory that "Turkish delight" was a euphemism for some unspeakable sex act.

It wasn't during the time of the Four Kings and Queens of Narnia, but during that time and after, the term gradually became associated with Edmund's betrayal, and later with a sort of perversity or uncleanliness in general. This continued under the Telmarines, who had adopted the Narnian tongue following their invasion.

By the reign of Caspian I and his descendants, the phrase "Turkish Delight" did in fact refer to only the most debauched and licentious practices in Narnia and Archenland, and you know those Narnians get up to some freaky shit.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 7:48 AM on August 9, 2016 [4 favorites]


"Hey baby, would you care for some Turkish Delight?"


*gets punched by Dryad*
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 8:04 AM on August 9, 2016 [2 favorites]


Pfft. Charn is where the real freakazoids live.
posted by Chrysostom at 11:28 AM on August 9, 2016


My 2nd grade teacher read us a picture book "adaptation" of the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe and I very distinctly remember looking at the white, almost fluffy-looking illustration Turkish Delight and immediately associating it with dragon beard candy. I was totally nonplussed when I saw actual Turkish delight for the first time (maybe around age 17 or 18) and realizing that the fluffy white stuff was just a powdered sugar coating. If the Turkish delight had actually been fresh dragon beard candy, well, I mean.. I would understand Edmund's decision a bit better
posted by btfreek at 12:44 PM on August 9, 2016


The article discussing what various people pictured was fun. I think I pictured it as something kind of nougaty, maybe like the inside of a snickers.
posted by tavella at 12:56 PM on August 9, 2016


I was only just starting to 'get' the Christian allegory in the Narnia books and now I suspect this was the beginning of my disillusionment with all things religious.

Hey, remember who was trying to sell the stuff... it wasn't Aslan ;-)
posted by randomkeystrike at 7:47 PM on August 11, 2016 [1 favorite]


...and if I happen to see it for sale, I'll probably pick up a pack. There is no explanation.

Guess what my wife found at the candy store tonight? And bought for our two boys as a fun gag? And now they both love the taste? Sheesh. Cheap Thrills, indeed.

And now my burps taste of rosewater.
posted by GhostintheMachine at 3:43 PM on August 26, 2016 [2 favorites]


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