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Star Wars Saxophone. [slyt]
This is... I mean... I'm not even sure... I... Um......
posted by hippybear at 12:03 PM on September 11, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by hippybear at 12:03 PM on September 11, 2016 [5 favorites]
(needs a HappyFunSeptember tag)
posted by hippybear at 12:03 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by hippybear at 12:03 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
The fourths are strong in this one.
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 12:06 PM on September 11, 2016 [21 favorites]
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 12:06 PM on September 11, 2016 [21 favorites]
I love that there are forces that not even Darth Vader would mess with. Like, ugh, ok, just gotto sit this asshole out I guess.
Pretty sure The Emperor has something to do with this.
posted by Foci for Analysis at 12:26 PM on September 11, 2016 [6 favorites]
Pretty sure The Emperor has something to do with this.
posted by Foci for Analysis at 12:26 PM on September 11, 2016 [6 favorites]
Am I just an old fuddy-duddy, or is this random unfunny pointlessness?
posted by Greg_Ace at 12:28 PM on September 11, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by Greg_Ace at 12:28 PM on September 11, 2016 [6 favorites]
So, when I was six, my grandma gave me a toy clarinet, and I ran to my friend who lived across the street to show him. I rang on the door. Some old lady opened. Must be his grandma, I thought. "I got a clarinet!", I said, and proceeded to demonstrate what it is for and what loud noise it can make. The reception I received was remarkably similar to this thread - it turned out I mixed up the floors.
posted by hat_eater at 12:49 PM on September 11, 2016 [13 favorites]
posted by hat_eater at 12:49 PM on September 11, 2016 [13 favorites]
I feel I'm watching an inside joke.
posted by lmfsilva at 12:50 PM on September 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by lmfsilva at 12:50 PM on September 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
>Am I just an old fuddy-duddy, or is this random unfunny pointlessness?
I think it's just what humor is now. You still can tell a funny joke if you must, but it's better if you take a video clip from Lord Of The Rings of Gimli scratching his ass and loop it for ten hours and put it on YouTube. It's not exactly funny, but it's funny that somebody did that, and it Leverages The Existing Technology, and people can follow, like, and share it. It's like that Bridge Over Troubled Water video that showed up yesterday--it's necessary to have Burning Man Moustache Guy doing interpretive dance that even he thinks is stupid, because otherwise you're just listening to the song Bridge Over Troubled Water, and that's not a deconstruction of anything.
Remember when Homer Simpson was performing at some alternative music festival? The one kid in the audience says, "That was SO COOL," and the kid next to him says, "Are you being sarcastic?" and the first kid says, "I just don't know anymore." That episode is twenty years old now and it's all been downhill since then.
posted by Sing Or Swim at 12:58 PM on September 11, 2016 [23 favorites]
I think it's just what humor is now. You still can tell a funny joke if you must, but it's better if you take a video clip from Lord Of The Rings of Gimli scratching his ass and loop it for ten hours and put it on YouTube. It's not exactly funny, but it's funny that somebody did that, and it Leverages The Existing Technology, and people can follow, like, and share it. It's like that Bridge Over Troubled Water video that showed up yesterday--it's necessary to have Burning Man Moustache Guy doing interpretive dance that even he thinks is stupid, because otherwise you're just listening to the song Bridge Over Troubled Water, and that's not a deconstruction of anything.
Remember when Homer Simpson was performing at some alternative music festival? The one kid in the audience says, "That was SO COOL," and the kid next to him says, "Are you being sarcastic?" and the first kid says, "I just don't know anymore." That episode is twenty years old now and it's all been downhill since then.
posted by Sing Or Swim at 12:58 PM on September 11, 2016 [23 favorites]
Ha! Put a smile on my face. The silent reactions gag isn't too original, but the wandering saxomophone guy and his playing feel plenty fresh.
posted by comealongpole at 1:14 PM on September 11, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by comealongpole at 1:14 PM on September 11, 2016 [3 favorites]
Best of the Web you say?
posted by humboldt32 at 1:19 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by humboldt32 at 1:19 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
Pretty sure The Emperor has something to do with this.
Embouchure about that?
*ducks*
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 1:30 PM on September 11, 2016 [8 favorites]
Embouchure about that?
*ducks*
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 1:30 PM on September 11, 2016 [8 favorites]
The fourths are strong in this one.
I find his lack of fifths disturbing.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 1:39 PM on September 11, 2016 [12 favorites]
I find his lack of fifths disturbing.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 1:39 PM on September 11, 2016 [12 favorites]
Am I just an old fuddy-duddy, or is this random unfunny pointlessness?
It's not pointless if you view it as a pretty talented editing and video compositing exercise. I don't think it has much use aside from that, but I'd be curious to know what equipment and software was used to create it, because if that was done "at home", it's very impressive.
posted by hippybear at 1:43 PM on September 11, 2016 [4 favorites]
It's not pointless if you view it as a pretty talented editing and video compositing exercise. I don't think it has much use aside from that, but I'd be curious to know what equipment and software was used to create it, because if that was done "at home", it's very impressive.
posted by hippybear at 1:43 PM on September 11, 2016 [4 favorites]
If Star Wars had a Tom Bombadil character. That played the saxophone.
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 1:58 PM on September 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 1:58 PM on September 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
why
posted by Vitamaster at 2:20 PM on September 11, 2016
posted by Vitamaster at 2:20 PM on September 11, 2016
>Am I just an old fuddy-duddy, or is this random unfunny pointlessness?
I think it's just what humor is now.
So then, I'm a fuddy-duddy and it's pointless? Fair enough.
posted by Greg_Ace at 2:23 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
I think it's just what humor is now.
So then, I'm a fuddy-duddy and it's pointless? Fair enough.
posted by Greg_Ace at 2:23 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
I agree, Greg_Ace.
posted by Seekerofsplendor at 2:25 PM on September 11, 2016
posted by Seekerofsplendor at 2:25 PM on September 11, 2016
It looks like that sax is made out of plastic. I would think that would change the voice more than it seems to have.
(A soprano sax is basically a clarinet made out of brass instead of wood, and it doesn't sound like a clarinet.)
posted by Chocolate Pickle at 2:30 PM on September 11, 2016
(A soprano sax is basically a clarinet made out of brass instead of wood, and it doesn't sound like a clarinet.)
posted by Chocolate Pickle at 2:30 PM on September 11, 2016
Credits say thanks for the polycarbonate sax.
posted by thetortoise at 2:36 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by thetortoise at 2:36 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
Saxophones have a conical bore, clarinets are cylindrical. That makes a big difference in the sound.
posted by Greg_Ace at 2:39 PM on September 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by Greg_Ace at 2:39 PM on September 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
I hit "post" too soon - I meant to say, a bigger difference than the material it's made of.
posted by Greg_Ace at 2:41 PM on September 11, 2016
posted by Greg_Ace at 2:41 PM on September 11, 2016
Am I just an old fuddy-duddy, or is this random unfunny pointlessness?
It's random unfunny pointlessness AND you're an old fuddy-duddy.
-or-
Please provide a NOT random unfunny pointlessness humor...Something expected funny and meaningful?
Do you know Harry Nilsson's fable The Point! (1971)?
posted by lazycomputerkids at 2:41 PM on September 11, 2016
It's random unfunny pointlessness AND you're an old fuddy-duddy.
-or-
Please provide a NOT random unfunny pointlessness humor...Something expected funny and meaningful?
Do you know Harry Nilsson's fable The Point! (1971)?
posted by lazycomputerkids at 2:41 PM on September 11, 2016
>So then, I'm a fuddy-duddy and it's pointless? Fair enough.
I was speaking as a member of the Fuddy Fraternity.
posted by Sing Or Swim at 2:43 PM on September 11, 2016
I was speaking as a member of the Fuddy Fraternity.
posted by Sing Or Swim at 2:43 PM on September 11, 2016
Yes, and to my mind I had made one. (a point, not a post)
posted by Greg_Ace at 2:43 PM on September 11, 2016
posted by Greg_Ace at 2:43 PM on September 11, 2016
Guys...the insertion of an AND to ANY asserted premise that uses exclusivity was GOLD to an ex of mine. She cracked that joke a hundred times a month. As the saying goes: You asked for it.
posted by lazycomputerkids at 2:49 PM on September 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by lazycomputerkids at 2:49 PM on September 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
I know of nobody I would rather see fud a dud more than Greg_Ace.
posted by hippybear at 2:50 PM on September 11, 2016
posted by hippybear at 2:50 PM on September 11, 2016
(A soprano sax is basically a clarinet made out of brass instead of wood, and it doesn't sound like a clarinet.)
ahem, I play clarinet and sax... :-)
I do agree that for wind instruments the material the walls are made of is less critical than one might think.
- clarinet has cylindrical bore, saxes are conical. This is a MAJOR design difference, and leads to the clarinet's pitches being quite different (its two registers are a 12th apart, not an octave)
- different mouthpiece dimensions. (In fact, them both having single-reed mouthpieces is the main point of similarity)
- different set of keywork.
If anything, I think the soprano sax sounds more like an oboe than a clarinet (oboes are also conical bore)
Here's a metal clarinet being played. Not a great recording (and the clarinetist is okay, but I think he was kind of goofing around). Still sounds like a clarinet...
(I think I've qualified as a fuddy here...)
posted by randomkeystrike at 3:14 PM on September 11, 2016 [3 favorites]
ahem, I play clarinet and sax... :-)
I do agree that for wind instruments the material the walls are made of is less critical than one might think.
- clarinet has cylindrical bore, saxes are conical. This is a MAJOR design difference, and leads to the clarinet's pitches being quite different (its two registers are a 12th apart, not an octave)
- different mouthpiece dimensions. (In fact, them both having single-reed mouthpieces is the main point of similarity)
- different set of keywork.
If anything, I think the soprano sax sounds more like an oboe than a clarinet (oboes are also conical bore)
Here's a metal clarinet being played. Not a great recording (and the clarinetist is okay, but I think he was kind of goofing around). Still sounds like a clarinet...
(I think I've qualified as a fuddy here...)
posted by randomkeystrike at 3:14 PM on September 11, 2016 [3 favorites]
On the other hand, there's the tárogató, which is conical but made of wood, and has a fascinating sound halfway between a clarinet and a soprano sax.
posted by Greg_Ace at 3:43 PM on September 11, 2016
posted by Greg_Ace at 3:43 PM on September 11, 2016
I was speaking as a member of the Fuddy Fraternity.
Where do I sign up?
posted by charlesminus at 4:14 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
Where do I sign up?
posted by charlesminus at 4:14 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
I like how you guys are saying "unfunny" as if that's an inexcusable flaw in any sax solo.
posted by sfenders at 4:38 PM on September 11, 2016
posted by sfenders at 4:38 PM on September 11, 2016
No no, I have a completely separate set of issues with the sax playing itself.
posted by Greg_Ace at 5:24 PM on September 11, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by Greg_Ace at 5:24 PM on September 11, 2016 [3 favorites]
I'm only now considering Greg_Ace's response was ironic, or fully satirical in context, and subtlety is cool 'n' all, but its bedfellows are tricky.
"The main strategy of evasion employed by men's magazines takes the form of cheeky knowingness and self-reflexiveness (commonly glossed as irony), which enables it to simultaneously affirm and deny its values. Indeed, it has been observed that irony preserves a quality of "deniability" (Stringfellow, 1994) It allows a writer to articulate an anti-feminist sentiment, whilst explicitly distancing himself from it, and thus disclaiming responsibility from or even an authentic authorship of it."
Gender identity and discourse analysis By Lia Litosseliti, Jane Sunderland
"As Frank Stringfellow argues, Freud was too precipitous in dismissing irony as merely a conscious, rhetorical flourish. Certainly irony does function as a conscious defense mechanism. The canny rhetor is shielded from censure because the author always says the opposite of whatever substance the audience makes of his or her remarks. This is the refuge of of plausible deniability. But ambiguous utterances fashioned to elude censure are also an ideal avenue for the unconscious to have its say."
Horror Film and Psychoanalysis-Freud's Worst Nightmares Edited by Steven Jay Schneider
posted by lazycomputerkids at 5:34 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
"The main strategy of evasion employed by men's magazines takes the form of cheeky knowingness and self-reflexiveness (commonly glossed as irony), which enables it to simultaneously affirm and deny its values. Indeed, it has been observed that irony preserves a quality of "deniability" (Stringfellow, 1994) It allows a writer to articulate an anti-feminist sentiment, whilst explicitly distancing himself from it, and thus disclaiming responsibility from or even an authentic authorship of it."
Gender identity and discourse analysis By Lia Litosseliti, Jane Sunderland
"As Frank Stringfellow argues, Freud was too precipitous in dismissing irony as merely a conscious, rhetorical flourish. Certainly irony does function as a conscious defense mechanism. The canny rhetor is shielded from censure because the author always says the opposite of whatever substance the audience makes of his or her remarks. This is the refuge of of plausible deniability. But ambiguous utterances fashioned to elude censure are also an ideal avenue for the unconscious to have its say."
Horror Film and Psychoanalysis-Freud's Worst Nightmares Edited by Steven Jay Schneider
posted by lazycomputerkids at 5:34 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
I've never seen a sax playing itself, and I wonder where Greg_Ace encountered such a thing.
posted by hippybear at 5:51 PM on September 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by hippybear at 5:51 PM on September 11, 2016 [2 favorites]
Nice find. It lead me to this pair of dueling saxophonists.
posted by a lungful of dragon at 6:13 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by a lungful of dragon at 6:13 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
I'm only now considering Greg_Ace's response was ironic,
No, I was being sincere. I honestly don't "get" it, and thought it was foolish and uninteresting on any level*. Chacun a son gout, I suppose.
*I acknowledge that by now I've spent more time saying it was a waste of time than I spent watching it. So there that is.
posted by Greg_Ace at 6:34 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
No, I was being sincere. I honestly don't "get" it, and thought it was foolish and uninteresting on any level*. Chacun a son gout, I suppose.
*I acknowledge that by now I've spent more time saying it was a waste of time than I spent watching it. So there that is.
posted by Greg_Ace at 6:34 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
Some of the compositing is on a level beyond the original trilogy. I'm not going to say it's seamless, but it's pretty damn good. Didn't care much for his playing. I like those dueling saxophonists mentioned a few comments back though.
posted by wabbittwax at 6:42 PM on September 11, 2016
posted by wabbittwax at 6:42 PM on September 11, 2016
On yet another hand, there is the cylindrical bore slide saxophone, with a tone somewhat between that of a saxophone and a injured duck.
posted by randomkeystrike at 7:28 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by randomkeystrike at 7:28 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
I liked his playing a lot!
and enjoyed the deadpan gag, too, but now I'm embarrassed to say so, you fuddy-duddies!
posted by spbmp at 8:58 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
and enjoyed the deadpan gag, too, but now I'm embarrassed to say so, you fuddy-duddies!
posted by spbmp at 8:58 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
The Derivative Strikes Back was my favorite Star Wars so far. I halfway expected Lena Dunham to pop out at some point but it really was entertaining. Full disclosure: I'm commenting my obligatory first comment so I can get my posting merit badge. I didn't actually read the post above but I'm sure the thread is wildly fun though.
posted by AdjectivePanda at 9:04 PM on September 11, 2016
posted by AdjectivePanda at 9:04 PM on September 11, 2016
Newbies must read the post and all comments before adding their own comment. One demerit.
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 9:32 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 9:32 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
Some of the very best have played a plastic sax.
posted by Mei's lost sandal at 9:53 PM on September 11, 2016
posted by Mei's lost sandal at 9:53 PM on September 11, 2016
I enjoyed the pointlessness of this video. I went into it expecting a sort of over-the-top Giant Steps-y arpeggiated John Williams medley that was about half "oh hey that's cool" and a quarter "jeez we get it you can play a lot of notes" and fill the rest in with "ha yup that's how saxophonists wave saxophones around all right." And instead there was some muted goofy shuffling! It messed with my expectations in a benign and pleasing way.
posted by knuckle tattoos at 10:12 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by knuckle tattoos at 10:12 PM on September 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
Am I just an old fuddy-duddy, or is this random unfunny pointlessness?
I remember explaining to my grumpy uncle that a shrubbery was indeed an unlikely thing for the knights to want, and that itself was the point. There were a few more such discussions through the rest of the movie.
posted by vanar sena at 10:39 PM on September 11, 2016 [4 favorites]
I remember explaining to my grumpy uncle that a shrubbery was indeed an unlikely thing for the knights to want, and that itself was the point. There were a few more such discussions through the rest of the movie.
posted by vanar sena at 10:39 PM on September 11, 2016 [4 favorites]
The gap between this and Monty Python is far too large for your attempted analogy to bridge successfully.
posted by Greg_Ace at 11:54 PM on September 11, 2016
posted by Greg_Ace at 11:54 PM on September 11, 2016
So..."None shall pass," then?
posted by wenestvedt at 3:16 AM on September 12, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by wenestvedt at 3:16 AM on September 12, 2016 [2 favorites]
Chacun a son gout
To each his goat? I guess ... I mean, if that's what floats your goat.
posted by oheso at 5:01 AM on September 12, 2016 [1 favorite]
To each his goat? I guess ... I mean, if that's what floats your goat.
posted by oheso at 5:01 AM on September 12, 2016 [1 favorite]
No no no, to each his own inflammatory arthritis!
posted by Greg_Ace at 10:13 AM on September 12, 2016
posted by Greg_Ace at 10:13 AM on September 12, 2016
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