Hail Godzilla, King of the Monsters. He's NOT Your Father's Godzilla.
October 14, 2016 7:47 PM   Subscribe

In theaters in the US from Oct 11th thru the 18th, Japanese with English subtitles. The Godzilla Myth is reborn by Toho Film Co., Ltd., a new Godzilla for a new age. An entirely new story (except for the part where he wrecks Tokyo,) same great theme song. If the 2014 Godzilla movie with it's paltry 8 minutes of monster left you cold, Shin Godzilla is the kaiju movie for you!
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~~~~Mothra Rules~~~~

posted by sammyo at 7:51 PM on October 14, 2016 [9 favorites]


I saw this during the US premiere at Fantastic Fest.

It's very, very, very unusual and bold. I would place bets that Western audiences will not understand it and hate it. But I loved it, and smart savvy audiences like this crowd will probably love it too. I was floored by what it set out to do. GO SEE IT.

IMO it's the one Godzilla movie that's most like the original, in a lot of unexpected ways.

If the 2014 Godzilla movie with it's paltry 8 minutes of monster left you cold, Shin Godzilla is the kaiju movie for you!

I don't want to put anyone off, but I'd wager that it's not the kaiju movie for you. This spoiler-y review explains, if you're curious.
posted by naju at 7:58 PM on October 14, 2016 [5 favorites]


Sounds like another Pacific Rim Job.
posted by oneswellfoop at 8:06 PM on October 14, 2016 [2 favorites]


I'd wager that it's not the kaiju movie for you.

I disagree! I read the review and it's wrong in any comparisons to the 2014 Godzilla which had such dark bullshit renderings of the monster, I actually apologized to my husband for making him sit through 2014 Godzilla after seeing Shin Godzilla in the theater last night.

Shin Godzilla as a monster had just enough cheesiness to thrill the kid in you that loved guys in rubber suits stomping each other, and lovely extended scenes that fully allowed you to enjoy and appreciate this particular unique version. The traditionalist in me wanted to dislike this new depiction, yet everything about the story and the evolution of the creature sold me on its (final?) form.
posted by jbenben at 8:13 PM on October 14, 2016 [3 favorites]


Well, [spoilers!] on a purely "minutes of screen time" comparison, I'm not sure it fares much better. I could be wrong about that though, it's not like I counted.
posted by naju at 8:16 PM on October 14, 2016


This looks pretty good, will see
posted by clockzero at 8:19 PM on October 14, 2016


paltry 8 minutes of monster

Now if the rest had been more Ken Waranabe and Bryan Cranston solving monster science problems and not J. Random Nobody failing to be interesting it still might have been salvageable.
posted by Artw at 8:24 PM on October 14, 2016 [7 favorites]


Seeing it this weekend, and I'm super excited. It has Hideaki Anno directing, whom some of you may recognize as the auteur behind the Evangelion franchise. I've been hoping for years that he'd re-enter the realm of live action, and directing the most iconic of kaiju films seems to be a perfect match for him.
posted by Room 101 at 8:43 PM on October 14, 2016 [7 favorites]


Hasn't J. Random Nobody filled a crucial non-monstershaped plot role since the fifties? How do we know it's not hir relationship with the kaiju that leads to this terrible serial urban destruction issue?

Is J. Random Nobody a big Ayn Rand fan?
posted by mwhybark at 8:43 PM on October 14, 2016


maybe a bit too lit-crit, but how does this relate to Japan? What's the Godzilla resurgence got to do with Abe and his maneuvering to rid Japan of peace, and what's it got to do with the imperial counter-move.

Deeper, harder, please!
posted by owalt1 at 9:43 PM on October 14, 2016 [1 favorite]


Thanks for the heads-up, jbenben! I just found out it's playing here. The official website's theatre locator doesn't seem to work very well, but local sources say it's playing on the 19th and the 24th! Just need to round up some monster lovers, and it'll be a date.

A date with destruction.

posted by Kevin Street at 10:16 PM on October 14, 2016 [2 favorites]


The 2014 Godzilla works if you treat it as a series of pretty great WWE matches broken up by some okay family drama.

I am very excited to see what Hideaki Anno did with this one though. I was supposed to see it earlier this week but haven't been feeling well. But hopefully tomorrow!
posted by sparkletone at 10:27 PM on October 14, 2016


Now if the rest had been more Ken Waranabe and Bryan Cranston solving monster science problems and not J. Random Nobody failing to be interesting it still might have been salvageable.

Oh god I so disagree. The J. Random Nobody stuff was awful, but Cranston's part...Ugh. The problem there was that he was too good. I felt so bad for this dude who'd lost his wife and was clearly adrift and alone and all his pain cast a pall over the rest of the film. Like how the hell am I supposed to enjoy a monster-stomping movie if I have to sit here with all this stuff about grief and loneliness? How the hell is that supposed to make a monster movie fun?
posted by scaryblackdeath at 10:36 PM on October 14, 2016 [2 favorites]


I saw this on Thursday night and it was great fun! Terrific satire of bureaucracy, and lots of Monster Stomping Tokyo Action! Would watch again!
posted by Cookiebastard at 10:38 PM on October 14, 2016 [1 favorite]


If the 2014 Godzilla movie with it's paltry 8 minutes of monster

For all it's flaws, I thought 2014 Godzilla's idea of making all the monsters hungry for nukes, allowing the humans to use nukes to lure and manipulate them, was the best plot device I've seen for keeping humans involved in the action of a kaiju movie that doesn't involve giant robots.

(And that credits sequence!)
posted by straight at 11:06 PM on October 14, 2016 [4 favorites]


Credit sequence is a thing of amaze, yes.
posted by Artw at 11:16 PM on October 14, 2016


Like how the hell am I supposed to enjoy a monster-stomping movie if I have to sit here with all this stuff about grief and loneliness?

"Let me just steer you away from ever watching Evangelion," he understated.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 11:22 PM on October 14, 2016 [12 favorites]


I saw this film last night. What Anno has done, in essence, is a reboot that is modernized and minimalized, with a dialogue pacing that is comparable to Aaron Sorkin. In fact, I'd say it's the Aaron Sorkin Godzilla: lot's of stressed minister's and department heads arguing intelligently and passionately about what ought to be done.

I thoroughly enjoyed this film. I thought it was an effective reprise of the power of the original Godzilla film: the idea of this slow moving monster that cannot be stopped, no matter what you throw at it, a slightly anthropomorphized (dinomorphized?) walking calamity. This is a movie that will make you understand why Godzilla originally was a creature of horror.

Others, however, may find it dialogue heavy, with insufficient action, and insufficient time spent in the presence of Godzilla. It's very much a film about how Japan, and also the world, would react to Godzilla.

But it's your best bet for a big-screen entertainment in US theatres at this time.
posted by LeRoienJaune at 12:50 AM on October 15, 2016 [5 favorites]


If the 2014 Godzilla movie with it's paltry 8 minutes of monster left you cold, Shin Godzilla is the kaiju movie for you!

The 2014 Godzilla was directed by Gareth Edwards, who is now directing the ill-fated Star Wars spinoff Rogue One. It's hard to tell whether he specializes in disaster movies or disastrous movies. (Curiously, his directorial debut Monsters, was superb.)
posted by fairmettle at 1:44 AM on October 15, 2016 [1 favorite]


In fact, I'd say it's the Aaron Sorkin Godzilla: lot's of stressed minister's and department heads arguing intelligently and passionately about what ought to be done.

Sort of. I see it as the Contagion of Godzilla movies. A key difference from Sorkin is that it's absolutely scathing about the ways in which Japanese bureaucrats responded to the Fukushima disaster. This is a boldly political movie, and it has bones to pick about the way Japanese government has functioned in the recent past.
posted by naju at 1:55 AM on October 15, 2016 [5 favorites]


I honestly didn't think it was that scathing. I feel like if Anno had wanted to really kick the government of the time in the nether regions he could have gone a lot harder. (I would say that the people who come off worst in the film are the big-time academics.) Of course the fact that it's Godzilla does hamper that a bit: joking about Godzilla & co's repeated trashing of Tokyo aside, it's totally reasonable for the government to flounder a bit when faced with a threat which literally could not happen for reasons of biology, physics, etc. No such excuse applies to Fukushima.
posted by No-sword at 3:03 AM on October 15, 2016


I've only seen the original (during the release for its 50th anniversary) and I thought this was a worthy successor.
posted by channaher at 6:44 AM on October 15, 2016


Like how the hell am I supposed to enjoy a monster-stomping movie if I have to sit here with all this stuff about grief and loneliness? How the hell is that supposed to make a monster movie fun?

And that's the stuff I enjoyed about Edward's 2014 Godzilla. It made Godzilla (and Kaiju) frightening in a Lovecraftian, Cosmic Horror sort of way. There is vast, incomprehensible shit out there that gives zero fucks about you and all your loss and despair is merely a footnote to something happening on a scale that you can barely contemplate. It comes closest to capturing the spirit of the 1954 original Japanese Gojira (NOT the recut-for-America-Raymond-Burr-starring Godzilla). Don't get me wrong, I'll always enjoy a kaiju throw down like Final Wars or Destroy All Monsters but none of those ever filled me wth dread.

I have high hopes for Shin Godzilla in the same regard. I have tickets to see it Tuesday night; we'll see how I feel afterwards..
posted by KingEdRa at 8:14 AM on October 15, 2016 [1 favorite]


KingEdRa, throughout Shin Godzilla I was most reminded of seeing the iconic Return of the Living Dead in the theater back in 1985 - thrilling, mold-breaking for the genre, socially and politically aware + the sense the movie was far enough from formula absolutely anything might happen.

I predict you will not be disappointed on Tuesday. Please report back!
posted by jbenben at 8:28 AM on October 15, 2016 [4 favorites]


the ill-fated Star Wars spinoff Rogue One.

That may be a bit of a premature judgement. Trailer looks fantastic, at any rate.

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posted by Artw at 8:29 AM on October 15, 2016 [1 favorite]


I haven't seen this yet, but I am an unabashed Evangelion fan and I am so stoked for this. Judging from the review posted upthread this definitely sounds like Anno. I think people forget that so much of NGE is spent watching Gendo and Fuyutsuki talk about/talk to beaurocratic BS/figureheads. So many episodes touch upon the government's response to the Angels and their distrust (rightfully so) of NERV, funding issues, and diplomatic issues with other nations, etc. I can't wait to see this.
posted by gucci mane at 9:41 AM on October 15, 2016 [2 favorites]


The FPP title is accurate: my father's godzilla is in a climate-controlled storage unit in Tarzana
posted by clockzero at 10:06 AM on October 15, 2016 [2 favorites]


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posted by newdaddy at 10:06 AM on October 15, 2016 [1 favorite]


I joked going into this that I would pretend I was watching Evangelion: 3.0+1.0. And then 20 minutes in Anno drops a music cue from Eva and I realized that there were a million tiresome lil fanbois just like me who threw the same shade and he decided he would fuck with us. At least a little.

Good movie tho'.
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 10:27 AM on October 15, 2016 [1 favorite]


Thanks so much for posting this jbenben. My son has been a huge Godzilla fan for probably ten years now and we managed to catch an afternoon showing today. We both loved it; a great mix of paying homage to the original (the theme music, the roar, etc) and adding some new ideas. Great storytelling and an excellent job of keeping the suspension through out.
posted by BigHeartedGuy at 8:02 PM on October 15, 2016 [1 favorite]


...He's NOT Your Father's Godzilla.

Let alone your Grandfather's Godzilla! (1954)
posted by Twang at 9:42 PM on October 15, 2016


I saw this last night and was pretty blown away by it. It was funny, like I'd heard about it in advance, but not quite in the way I expected it to be. I found it straight up terrifying in a number of places. Even the initial encounter with Godzilla, a scene in which there are quite a few jokes, was unnerving enough that I had trouble laughing as much as the rest of the theater I was in did. It's a really, really smart, well-made movie that I think even people who don't normally go for this kind of thing would enjoy.

(I would say that the people who come off worst in the film are the big-time academics.)

I dunno. They were in the movie for maybe 45 seconds and mostly just shrugged or made guesses about the nature of something wholly unprecedented. For all that they're a joke, the main point of that scene is just "no one has any fucking clue what's going on or what to do about it, and it's gonna get a bunch of people killed, oh god."

There's this whole theme in the movie about how, for lack of a better term at the moment, the "establishment" that are ossified in their ways cannot possibly deal effectively with new threats/a changing world and the movie stopped for a minute to include academia in that. But mostly they were a footnote.
posted by sparkletone at 11:38 AM on October 16, 2016 [1 favorite]


Yeah, I just saw it here in Seattle a couple hours ago and I'm itching to go see it again before it leaves theaters. This isn't a Godzilla movie so much as a really thoughtful (and morbidly hilarious) disaster flick with Godzilla in it, but in knowing that going in I loved practically every minute.

The humor got really meta at times, too, which made me super happy.
posted by scaryblackdeath at 3:56 PM on October 16, 2016 [2 favorites]


The humor got really meta at times, too, which made me super happy.

The sight gag with everyone's job title getting longer and longer as bureaucracy collapses in the face of the threat of Godzilla was among my favorite jokes.

Also even if someone had told me, I would never have believed that Godzilla's weird-ass dead eyes would be constantly, incredibly hilarious to me for pretty much the whole movie. What a brilliant thing to do with what's basically just an artifact of how the original rubber suit was made.
posted by sparkletone at 8:46 AM on October 17, 2016 [2 favorites]


It ended today?!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
posted by Space Kitty at 11:25 PM on October 18, 2016 [1 favorite]


Yeah. Funimation's US theater run was announced as October 11-18. Hopefully they will get it up on streaming services quickly. I want to watch it again and be able to show it to people who weren't able to see it in a theater!
posted by sparkletone at 8:55 AM on October 19, 2016 [1 favorite]


Good news! In some cities its run has been extended to the 27th, and this Saturday there will be a special matinee showing in around 200 theaters. Apparently it's done really well, making it into the top 10 movies for the week despite its limited release.
posted by JHarris at 10:56 AM on October 19, 2016 [2 favorites]


Excellent! I remember reading that it did really, really well in Japan when it was released there. Looks like here in Chicago, while the Music Box isn't showing it after the 22nd, the AMC 21 will be.
posted by sparkletone at 11:33 AM on October 19, 2016 [1 favorite]


Ditched Presidential Debate #3 to watch this... and did not regret one second of it.
(Granted, I had already bought tickets to watch it on the 24th, but I wanted an excuse to watch it twice since I've never watched any movie in theatres twice before... and wanted to see what the experience was like.)
And to think that I was never a big Godzilla fan until I learned that Hideaki Anno was directing it and I wanted to check out what kind of things he can do with the film.

This was a movie about risk management in an environment filled with red tape, with the risk being a moving monster-sized nuclear reactor. I'd expect the movie being at least 60%+ meetings would be boring, but that was actually some of the funniest parts... the part near the beginning where a government official rambled on and on with a title card basically saying "tl; dr".

Also enjoyed some of the choices Anno had made re: cinematography. Besides the milItary vs Godzilla scenes which did, as I expected, remind me of Evangelion 1.11,I loved the way he built a feeling of danger and pandemonium during Godzilla's first landfall with the shaky cam.

All in all, wishing that the extended release also includes Canada. Meanwhile I will be looking forward to my second viewing. And perhaps watching more Godzilla movies in the future.
posted by Tsukushi at 9:11 PM on October 19, 2016 [3 favorites]


When this becomes the new classic, I just wanted to be on record for my son's sake. He's 5 years old and Godzilla is his jam. He's seen every one produced, so having subtitles he can't read was normal, yet he LOVED Shin Godzilla.

We walked out and his first comment/question was, "Do you think they'll do a robot one?!"

My favorite Godzilla film is (1975) Terror of MechaGodzilla. I think he loves Terror along with (2002) Godzilla Against MechaGodzilla. Or (2003) Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S.. He's down with the minutiae of MechaGodzilla engineering changes - I think S.O.S. version has the shoulder launchers? He always talks about that one (IDK, I just try to keep up!)

I don't really see how a "robot" Godzilla would fit into the Shin Godzilla universe, since the solutions seem more about cleverness and science rather than brute force. But I would be overjoyed to see it worked into the narrative.
posted by jbenben at 11:26 PM on October 19, 2016


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