Israeli reservists tell of Jenin assault
April 26, 2002 6:32 AM   Subscribe

Israeli reservists tell of Jenin assault Anecdotal or an overview? You decide. In a similar situation, how would you react?
posted by Postroad (8 comments total)
at the risk of offending, whatever
posted by lampshade at 6:58 AM on April 26, 2002

I like to think I wouldn't be in a similar situation -- that I would have the courage to refuse.
posted by sudama at 6:59 AM on April 26, 2002

Isn't it annoying how a few non-Middle East FPPs interrupt our "all Middle East all the time" discussion here on MeFi?
posted by matteo at 7:27 AM on April 26, 2002

- sudama, in the Israeli army you would have that right. The Israeli army is the only army that I know of that explicity gives their soldiers the right to refuse an order that they feel is unlawful. Having the right to dissent and disagree is one of the aspects of democratic government that I would be willing to fight for.

Also, I'm not sick of the Middle East threads. God forbid there's some discussion about a topic more important that the latest Unix server development or Flash upgrade. Believe it or not, some people here find that stuff uninteresting, yet have no problem with its inclusion.

I have found the discussion about the Middle East to be informative and eye opening. I was unaware that so many felt so strongly about the Palestinian cause; reading about thier points of view has enabled me to broaden my understanding the situation, and given me the chance, hopefully, to do the same for others.

I understand you have no interest in this dicussion. Cool. I don't think we have much in common. Why don't you give those that are interested a break and go play your videogames?
posted by xammerboy at 8:17 AM on April 26, 2002

Cool. I don't think we have much in common. Why don't you give those that are interested a break and go play your videogames?

No we do not. I look at facts. You are blinded by religious rhetoric.

Well, I have given you "that are interested" a break for the past several weeks. I have said very little. What has come out of "giving you a break" is a whole lot of divisive threads that accomplish nothing.

If you are so interested in this, get your own blog. Create your argurmental bloat on your own time. Leave us alone. All of these threads serve only to make us non Israelis/Palestinians less sympathetic to your cause(s).

We don't like you. We don't like your slanted politic.

On the other hand, if you could state a rational argument as to why you are correct, then maybe people might listen. But that seems to be beyond you. "You" being both sides of the argument.

Oh, and on your video game comment. Grow up little boy.......grow up.
posted by lampshade at 8:21 PM on April 26, 2002

If you don't care, why do you read and contribute to these threads? There are plenty of others to read.

But no, you have nothing better to do than to interrupt a discussion between interested parties. Some people enjoy discussions and arguments about politics. Others don't.

I'm not always interested in the Middle East. On those days, I don't read these threads.

Just because we're talking about something you don't want to talk about doesn't mean we should go away. You sound like the cranky child who wants to take his bat and ball and go home.

Grow up little boy.......grow up. Heed your own advice.
posted by robcorr at 11:04 PM on April 26, 2002

If you don't care, why do you read and contribute to these threads? There are plenty of others to read.

Understood and yes, that is sound logic. Certainly the I/P issue is something worth talking about, and certainly there are other threads to chime in on.

It is not that I do not care about the issue. What is going with regards to this is affecting many people and alot of people want to talk about it. I can appreciate that. However, after x amount of weeks of, more or less, the same discussion, I have had about all I can take. It almost seems that when there is a lull in the situation over there, someone seeks out some tangental article to fan the flames as it were.

If there was a MeFi button that would allow me to filter out certain threads, I would. The I/P threads would be on my filter list - not permanently - just for a while.

For what it is worth, sorry for the thread hijack. My initial comment should have been a MeTa entry in the first place. Bad form on my part, apologies all around.
posted by lampshade at 5:07 AM on April 27, 2002

Discussing a war is wonderful if the discussion has some reasonable chance of expanding our understanding of the war and concluding it sooner and with fewer deaths. Daily free-form gabbing (and the requisite argument) about each news article that concerns a war is just watercooler chit-chat and car-wreck rubbernecking.

Of all the trouble in the world -- read this and this and this -- why do so many people want to argue about just one war? And why do they need to argue here (and not anywhere that might make a difference) about that war week after week, news story after news story?
posted by pracowity at 6:03 AM on April 27, 2002

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