Creed cancles all remaining shows for the remainder of this tour...
April 29, 2002 3:17 PM Subscribe
Creed cancles all remaining shows for the remainder of this tour... This is the fourth time a Sacramento show has been cancelled for one reason or another... I think the accident is just a coverup... they just hate us here!
Yeah darian, I don't understand. Creed gives you the gift of not having to hear them play, and you're unhappy?
Kids today, they have no appreciation for the gifts given to them.
posted by mathowie at 3:37 PM on April 29, 2002
Kids today, they have no appreciation for the gifts given to them.
posted by mathowie at 3:37 PM on April 29, 2002
"Due to the nature of the accident, his body absorbed a sixty mile an hour impact." Um....what does that mean, exactly? That he walked away but he needs to rest? That he got whiplash? He broke his pinkie toe? What?!
The phrasing of that is more than a bit odd, 'specially since it doesn't actually *say* whether he's okay or not.
posted by metrocake at 3:37 PM on April 29, 2002
The phrasing of that is more than a bit odd, 'specially since it doesn't actually *say* whether he's okay or not.
posted by metrocake at 3:37 PM on April 29, 2002
Naaah, the only reason I'd be unhappy is because I couldn't throw things at him... You know that us Sacramentans are that way... we did it to TOOL and ended the show early...
Bah... naah, I'm not disappointed, but I do find it amusing that this is the fourth time it has happened...
posted by darian at 3:39 PM on April 29, 2002
Bah... naah, I'm not disappointed, but I do find it amusing that this is the fourth time it has happened...
posted by darian at 3:39 PM on April 29, 2002
Creed seems to be a special sort of band that polarizes the listening public. Everyone seems to either like them or be driven into a homicidal rage of epic proportions by them.
Why?
I've heard them a grand total of once, when they were on Saturday Night Live. They sounded very generic, a la Live or Pearl Jam or whatever. What's so enfuriating about these guys?
posted by Kafkaesque at 3:39 PM on April 29, 2002
Why?
I've heard them a grand total of once, when they were on Saturday Night Live. They sounded very generic, a la Live or Pearl Jam or whatever. What's so enfuriating about these guys?
posted by Kafkaesque at 3:39 PM on April 29, 2002
Let's see, you throw crap at Tool and you look forward to Creed? Someone's musical tastes need readjustment. What's next, burning King Crimson or Primus in effagy while waiting for a D.C. Talk show?
posted by mkelley at 3:43 PM on April 29, 2002
posted by mkelley at 3:43 PM on April 29, 2002
Creed is the Barry Manilow is the 00's: not especially good, not especially bad, and a catchphrase synonym for "bad band" employed by those too lazy to think up something clever.
posted by Shadowkeeper at 3:45 PM on April 29, 2002
posted by Shadowkeeper at 3:45 PM on April 29, 2002
I don't think Creed's music is any worse than a number of their "alternative radio" brethren, but when Scott Stapp compares his band to Led Zep, well, that's when we start throwing things at him.
posted by Reggie452 at 3:50 PM on April 29, 2002
posted by Reggie452 at 3:50 PM on April 29, 2002
"older christians are burning" is the funniest thing ever!
posted by rhyax at 4:02 PM on April 29, 2002
posted by rhyax at 4:02 PM on April 29, 2002
yes, anyone have the full quote for effect?
didnt Oasis once say they were better than the Beatles?
hahahahhahahahahah!
posted by Satapher at 4:41 PM on April 29, 2002
didnt Oasis once say they were better than the Beatles?
hahahahhahahahahah!
posted by Satapher at 4:41 PM on April 29, 2002
Skallas, of course you meant Nickleback and not Pinback. I hope.
posted by akmonday at 4:41 PM on April 29, 2002
posted by akmonday at 4:41 PM on April 29, 2002
People keep talking about Creed but I don't think I've actually heard any of their music. Any song titles I might recognize?
-Mars
posted by Mars Saxman at 4:43 PM on April 29, 2002
-Mars
posted by Mars Saxman at 4:43 PM on April 29, 2002
From Metal-Sludge's interview with Jackie Enxx: "if I see one more 'I'm so forelorn' look from Scott Stapp, I'll slit my wirsts or, better yet, his."
Creed are a "bad band" because they're not innovators and their bible-thumping image doesn't go over well. Especially with angry metal-heads like myself. (My favourite band is The Project Hate MCMXCIX. Go figure.)
Remember folks, rock 'n religion != cool.
posted by Dark Messiah at 4:44 PM on April 29, 2002
Creed are a "bad band" because they're not innovators and their bible-thumping image doesn't go over well. Especially with angry metal-heads like myself. (My favourite band is The Project Hate MCMXCIX. Go figure.)
Remember folks, rock 'n religion != cool.
posted by Dark Messiah at 4:44 PM on April 29, 2002
WOAH WOAH WOAH... I was mentioning the TOOL bit sarcastically... it sucked that people threw things on stage at that show. I saw TOOL 5 times on that last tour, adn will see them again on this next leg (allegedly July 13th in Sacramento my inside sources reveal)
Though yes, If I had a spare shoe from the concert floor I would lob it at Creed's singer...
And Mars, some of Creed's songs you may recognize are "Arms Wide Open" "Higher" "My Sacrifice" etc...
posted by darian at 4:49 PM on April 29, 2002
Though yes, If I had a spare shoe from the concert floor I would lob it at Creed's singer...
And Mars, some of Creed's songs you may recognize are "Arms Wide Open" "Higher" "My Sacrifice" etc...
posted by darian at 4:49 PM on April 29, 2002
I guess rock specifically about religion doesn't interest me. I know the 16 Horsepower guy is a very devout Christian, but it never really struck me as being the *ahem* crux of their work.
posted by Kafkaesque at 4:50 PM on April 29, 2002
posted by Kafkaesque at 4:50 PM on April 29, 2002
From Metal-Sludge's interview with Jackie Enxx: "if I see one more 'I'm so forelorn' look from Scott Stapp, I'll slit my wirsts or, better yet, his."
Here's a quote from Jackie's own personal website:
My name is Jackie Marie Enx. I am a 46 year old transgendered woman (birthday: 4/13/56) living in the Los Angeles area. I got to pick my name (unlike most people), because about 8 years ago I was re-invented.
Before then, I was living a relatively normal (even though quite exciting) life of a 38 year old guy. I earned 4 letters in high school sports ( basketball, football and 2 in cross-country), I also played little league baseball (through Babe Ruth) and a couple years of years of ice hockey.
Gosh, if we can't trust hir opinion, whose can we trust?
posted by RevGreg at 4:54 PM on April 29, 2002
Here's a quote from Jackie's own personal website:
My name is Jackie Marie Enx. I am a 46 year old transgendered woman (birthday: 4/13/56) living in the Los Angeles area. I got to pick my name (unlike most people), because about 8 years ago I was re-invented.
Before then, I was living a relatively normal (even though quite exciting) life of a 38 year old guy. I earned 4 letters in high school sports ( basketball, football and 2 in cross-country), I also played little league baseball (through Babe Ruth) and a couple years of years of ice hockey.
Gosh, if we can't trust hir opinion, whose can we trust?
posted by RevGreg at 4:54 PM on April 29, 2002
i don't know where i was having this conversation recently (so pardon me if i'm repeating myself), but the only rock about religion that does interest me comes from Pedro the Lion. christian rock without the preaching. okay, mostly without the preaching.
btw darian: throw whatever you want at tool.
posted by eyeballkid at 4:57 PM on April 29, 2002
btw darian: throw whatever you want at tool.
posted by eyeballkid at 4:57 PM on April 29, 2002
Creed left me nonplussed (though I did turn the radio dial when they came on) until that horrible, horrible, CGI video for whatever single it was. Now I want them to go away.
posted by Salmonberry at 5:06 PM on April 29, 2002
posted by Salmonberry at 5:06 PM on April 29, 2002
Creed raises my ire because they're so horribly one-note, mediocre and predictable. But I do have to give credit to any singer who gives a pamphlet on anger management to Fred Durst. That's just inspired.
posted by Dreama at 5:15 PM on April 29, 2002
posted by Dreama at 5:15 PM on April 29, 2002
I was content to ignore Creed's presence on Earth until I heard a quote from Stapp on VH1 Behind The Music, where he said something to the effect of "I was leading a directionless life when Jim Morrison came to me in a dream and told me to go to Gainesville to start a rock band." Couple this with the Jesus complex (every video has Stapp holding his arms out like he's on a crucifix) and the utter mediocrity, and I'm offended as a 16-year resident of Florida, an appreciator of music, and a Christian.
posted by Danelope at 6:37 PM on April 29, 2002
posted by Danelope at 6:37 PM on April 29, 2002
Dreama: I thought you thought it was wussy, not inspired.
posted by brittney at 6:39 PM on April 29, 2002
posted by brittney at 6:39 PM on April 29, 2002
easy on Tool now. danelope has the skinny on the Creed schism.
posted by clavdivs at 6:46 PM on April 29, 2002
posted by clavdivs at 6:46 PM on April 29, 2002
Does anyone else find it strange that neither Yahoo or E! Online has anything about Scott Stapp being in a car accident? When something happens to anyone, it seems that Yahoo and E! have it first. When the lead singer of Alice in Chains died, we heard about it, and I think it's fair to say (by popular vote, not by any personal preference) that Creed is/has been more popular than Alice in Chains.
Something is rotten in the State of Denmark, and it's not just Creed's hackneyed, recycled, post-grunge, pseudo-Christian sound...
posted by bryanzera at 6:57 PM on April 29, 2002
Something is rotten in the State of Denmark, and it's not just Creed's hackneyed, recycled, post-grunge, pseudo-Christian sound...
posted by bryanzera at 6:57 PM on April 29, 2002
Bryanzera -- *exactly.* Like I said up top, the press release just mentions that he was in a car accident -- no news on what happened, or if he's okay. And the *rest of their web site* doesn't say anything either -- it just refers you to the press release.
Since when did a band that appeals to teenagers (read: male singer with at least some teenybopper appeal) *not* rush to assure everyone that said singer was "a-ok?"
I wonder whose fault this accident was...
posted by metrocake at 7:53 PM on April 29, 2002
Since when did a band that appeals to teenagers (read: male singer with at least some teenybopper appeal) *not* rush to assure everyone that said singer was "a-ok?"
I wonder whose fault this accident was...
posted by metrocake at 7:53 PM on April 29, 2002
Actually, here's the Yahoo story -- E! Online just has a little blurb. This just went up at 10:30 pm EST, and things still sound a little shady...
posted by metrocake at 8:01 PM on April 29, 2002
posted by metrocake at 8:01 PM on April 29, 2002
i'd love to find whoever was driving the other car and buy them a drink. unless it was a soccer mom in a suburban with a cell phone, in which case i will just shake my head in partial disgust. nobody deserves to be hit by one of those.
either way, maybe now that his vocal cords and brain have "absorbed a 60 mile per hour impact" he will stop trying to sing like eddie vedder... one can only hope
posted by sixtwenty3dc at 8:07 PM on April 29, 2002
either way, maybe now that his vocal cords and brain have "absorbed a 60 mile per hour impact" he will stop trying to sing like eddie vedder... one can only hope
posted by sixtwenty3dc at 8:07 PM on April 29, 2002
Creed = soccer mom rock
posted by Mach3avelli at 8:28 PM on April 29, 2002
posted by Mach3avelli at 8:28 PM on April 29, 2002
Dreama: I thought you thought it was wussy, not inspired.
I've reconsidered my position. At the time I branded the action as coming from a wussy little punk, I was feeling some inexplicable sympathy for Durst. I have since come to my senses vis-a-vis that particular person.
Today, I found myself behind a pickup truck on a rural road which was emblazoned with three kinds of bumper/window stickers: pro-Islam statements and Limp Bizkit and Creed fan stickers. I was deeply perplexed. I really wanted to ask the driver what was up with that, but I couldn't imagine what words might be sufficient for such an inquiry.
posted by Dreama at 8:36 PM on April 29, 2002
I've reconsidered my position. At the time I branded the action as coming from a wussy little punk, I was feeling some inexplicable sympathy for Durst. I have since come to my senses vis-a-vis that particular person.
Today, I found myself behind a pickup truck on a rural road which was emblazoned with three kinds of bumper/window stickers: pro-Islam statements and Limp Bizkit and Creed fan stickers. I was deeply perplexed. I really wanted to ask the driver what was up with that, but I couldn't imagine what words might be sufficient for such an inquiry.
posted by Dreama at 8:36 PM on April 29, 2002
"We don't want people to believe that this is a situation where Scott will not recover."
That's a weird statement to give to the press.
posted by swerve at 8:45 PM on April 29, 2002
That's a weird statement to give to the press.
posted by swerve at 8:45 PM on April 29, 2002
Satapher...
Oasis only said they were "bigger than the Beatles." It was a joke. Y'see, the Beatles said they were "bigger than God" cuz so many people would go to their concerts on Sunday or something like that. Oasis had a CD outsell the Beatles, so they said that they were bigger than the Beatles, tounge-in-cheek. Even they won't compare themselves to the Beatles, though "Stop Crying Your Heart Out" from the new Oasis album is as good as any Beatles song in my opinion.
posted by Kevs at 9:37 PM on April 29, 2002
Oasis only said they were "bigger than the Beatles." It was a joke. Y'see, the Beatles said they were "bigger than God" cuz so many people would go to their concerts on Sunday or something like that. Oasis had a CD outsell the Beatles, so they said that they were bigger than the Beatles, tounge-in-cheek. Even they won't compare themselves to the Beatles, though "Stop Crying Your Heart Out" from the new Oasis album is as good as any Beatles song in my opinion.
posted by Kevs at 9:37 PM on April 29, 2002
I think most people's (and my) problem with creed is that they simply don't make very good or interesting music.
posted by mcsweetie at 10:27 PM on April 29, 2002
posted by mcsweetie at 10:27 PM on April 29, 2002
Y'see, the Beatles said they were "bigger than God"
Actually, I think John Lennon said they were bigger than Jesus. Whatever. [/nitpicking]
posted by anathema at 4:27 AM on April 30, 2002
Actually, I think John Lennon said they were bigger than Jesus. Whatever. [/nitpicking]
posted by anathema at 4:27 AM on April 30, 2002
Stapp holding his arms out like he's on a crucifix
Ahem.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 4:42 AM on April 30, 2002
Ahem.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 4:42 AM on April 30, 2002
Damn you, wonderchicken -- now I'm in the mood to listen to "Badmotorfinger."
:D
posted by metrocake at 8:29 AM on April 30, 2002
:D
posted by metrocake at 8:29 AM on April 30, 2002
Actually, I think John Lennon said they were bigger than Jesus.
[Rutles] Actually, it was all a misunderstanding. John just said they were bigger than Rod [Stewart] who would not find popularity until years later. [/Rutles]
posted by Kafkaesque at 8:45 AM on April 30, 2002
[Rutles] Actually, it was all a misunderstanding. John just said they were bigger than Rod [Stewart] who would not find popularity until years later. [/Rutles]
posted by Kafkaesque at 8:45 AM on April 30, 2002
I'm getting the feeling that a MeFi thread about a Creed cover band made up of vegetarian Israelis would be the most commented on thread ever...
posted by Cyrano at 11:01 AM on April 30, 2002
posted by Cyrano at 11:01 AM on April 30, 2002
Apparently, no injuries were reported to police, according to Billboard.
Curiouser and curiouser...
posted by me3dia at 12:16 PM on May 1, 2002
Curiouser and curiouser...
posted by me3dia at 12:16 PM on May 1, 2002
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