How to Impeach the President (Of the United States) [SLYT 7min 15sec]
July 11, 2017 10:15 AM Subscribe
"Epic How To" breaks down the process and purpose of presidential impeachment Learn everything you need to know about how to impeach the President! Not any particular President. Just in general.
Apologies there is no transcript for this video
Wikipedia states:
Impeachment is the process by which a legislative body formally levels charges against a high official of government.
Apologies there is no transcript for this video
Wikipedia states:
Impeachment is the process by which a legislative body formally levels charges against a high official of government.
- Here are details of what that looks like across the world
- Here are details of what the process means and might look like in the U.S.A specifically
- At the time of writing this post, no United States President has ever been successfully impeached
- Teen Vogue wrote an article detailing what the impeachment process is in February 2017 - for those of you unwilling or unable to watch/listen to video right now.
Contra to the above, both A. Johnson and Clinton were successfully impeached (charges brought against them and sent to Senate trial).
posted by The Notorious SRD at 10:22 AM on July 11, 2017 [6 favorites]
posted by The Notorious SRD at 10:22 AM on July 11, 2017 [6 favorites]
The Notorious SRD: "Contra to the above, both A. Johnson and Clinton were successfully impeached (charges brought against them and sent to Senate trial)."
Indeed, as Teen Vogue says:
What does it mean to be impeached?
One of the most common misconceptions is that "impeached" is synonymous with "taken out of office," but that's not the case. Instead, impeachment means bringing formal charges (an "indictment" in legalese) against a public official. The legislative branch (i.e. the House of Representatives and the Senate) can bring charges against a high-level government official, try that person, and decide whether or not to convict and remove that person from office.
posted by chavenet at 10:24 AM on July 11, 2017 [1 favorite]
Indeed, as Teen Vogue says:
What does it mean to be impeached?
One of the most common misconceptions is that "impeached" is synonymous with "taken out of office," but that's not the case. Instead, impeachment means bringing formal charges (an "indictment" in legalese) against a public official. The legislative branch (i.e. the House of Representatives and the Senate) can bring charges against a high-level government official, try that person, and decide whether or not to convict and remove that person from office.
posted by chavenet at 10:24 AM on July 11, 2017 [1 favorite]
"Was successfully impeached" is like "was successfully prosecuted." The success is not in bringing the case -- no reasonable native speaker of English would use "The DA successfully prosecuted A. Aaron Aaronson" to mean that Mr. Aaronson was found not guilty and walked free. The success is in winning it, and the original quote is right.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 10:34 AM on July 11, 2017 [8 favorites]
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 10:34 AM on July 11, 2017 [8 favorites]
Roman Mars is hosting a new podcast called: What Trump Can Teach Us About Con Law.
posted by Fizz at 10:42 AM on July 11, 2017 [13 favorites]
“Professor Elizabeth Joh teaches Intro to Constitutional Law and most of the time this is a pretty straight forward job. But with Trump in office, everything has changed. Five minutes before class Professor Joh checks Twitter to find out what the 45th President has said and how it jibes with 200 years of the judicial branch interpreting and ruling on the Constitution. Hosted by acclaimed podcaster Roman Mars (99% Invisible, co-founder Radiotopia), this show is a weekly, fun, casual Con Law 101 class that uses the tumultuous and erratic activities of the executive branch under Trump to teach us all about the US Constitution.”It's a very informative, entertaining, and mind-boggling look past U.S. history of constitutional law and our current political climate with President Orange Head.
posted by Fizz at 10:42 AM on July 11, 2017 [13 favorites]
I've often wondered about one aspect of this process: exactly how large a peach does one need?
And furthermore, how do you know he won't just eat his way out of the peach, once impeached? Is this why no President has been successfully impeached - because they just eat their way out of the peach they have been imprisoned in, like some voracious worm?
Lastly: why a peach, for heaven's sake? One can only assume it's because your glorious constitution was "hacked" by the intelligence agencies of Johnston, South Carolina.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:52 AM on July 11, 2017 [9 favorites]
And furthermore, how do you know he won't just eat his way out of the peach, once impeached? Is this why no President has been successfully impeached - because they just eat their way out of the peach they have been imprisoned in, like some voracious worm?
Lastly: why a peach, for heaven's sake? One can only assume it's because your glorious constitution was "hacked" by the intelligence agencies of Johnston, South Carolina.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:52 AM on July 11, 2017 [9 favorites]
To be honest, unless Pence is also impeached somehow, I would prefer Trump in office.
posted by beatThedealer at 10:56 AM on July 11, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by beatThedealer at 10:56 AM on July 11, 2017 [3 favorites]
To be honest, unless Pence is also impeached somehow, I would prefer Trump in office.
The classic "Between an inept moron and a clear and present danger" problem.
posted by Splunge at 11:24 AM on July 11, 2017 [7 favorites]
The classic "Between an inept moron and a clear and present danger" problem.
posted by Splunge at 11:24 AM on July 11, 2017 [7 favorites]
1. Assuming a spherical spineful GOP...
posted by RobotVoodooPower at 11:28 AM on July 11, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by RobotVoodooPower at 11:28 AM on July 11, 2017 [3 favorites]
To be honest, unless Pence is also impeached somehow, I would prefer Trump in office.
I disagree, if I must choose between Lawful Evil and Chaotic Evil alignments as powerful villains, I pick Lawful Evil.
posted by tclark at 12:26 PM on July 11, 2017 [14 favorites]
I disagree, if I must choose between Lawful Evil and Chaotic Evil alignments as powerful villains, I pick Lawful Evil.
posted by tclark at 12:26 PM on July 11, 2017 [14 favorites]
Mod note: In this thread, let's stick to the mechanisms of impeachment etc, and keep actual political arguments (who's worse, Trump or Pence) in the current catch-all US politics thread.
posted by LobsterMitten (staff) at 12:31 PM on July 11, 2017 [6 favorites]
posted by LobsterMitten (staff) at 12:31 PM on July 11, 2017 [6 favorites]
The local beloved indie coffee shop here is currently featuring a delicious iced drink of peach soda + espresso called the "Mmm...peach." They rolled it out on the 4th of July. #iseewhatyoudidthere
posted by aka burlap at 12:31 PM on July 11, 2017 [14 favorites]
posted by aka burlap at 12:31 PM on July 11, 2017 [14 favorites]
"When every week something happens that you say Trump can’t survive, and he survives it, accept the painful lesson that old norms don’t apply."
Source
At what point will we all stop saying, "now we got 'em"? I've just accepted that the whole family is teflon and will skate on pretty much anything they want to pull for the next 8 or so years.
posted by paulcole at 12:34 PM on July 11, 2017 [2 favorites]
Source
At what point will we all stop saying, "now we got 'em"? I've just accepted that the whole family is teflon and will skate on pretty much anything they want to pull for the next 8 or so years.
posted by paulcole at 12:34 PM on July 11, 2017 [2 favorites]
One can only assume it's because your glorious constitution was "hacked" by the intelligence agencies of Johnston, South Carolina.
One might think that, but really, it's the steady cultural influence of the Grimsby Peach Kings.
posted by Capt. Renault at 1:55 PM on July 11, 2017 [1 favorite]
One might think that, but really, it's the steady cultural influence of the Grimsby Peach Kings.
posted by Capt. Renault at 1:55 PM on July 11, 2017 [1 favorite]
this post is all wrong, it doesn't mention Eric Gametheory or the Marshall of the Supreme Court going to the White House to arrest the President
posted by indubitable at 2:09 PM on July 11, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by indubitable at 2:09 PM on July 11, 2017 [2 favorites]
Gaffney, SC's famous "Peachoid" is not actually a water tower, but a high-tech maximum security prison for impeached presidents. (fake)
No spoilers! I haven't gotten to season 5 yet.
posted by madcaptenor at 2:16 PM on July 11, 2017 [4 favorites]
No spoilers! I haven't gotten to season 5 yet.
posted by madcaptenor at 2:16 PM on July 11, 2017 [4 favorites]
> "To be honest, unless Pence is also impeached somehow, I would prefer Trump in office."
There is a point where I stop doing political calculus and simply want lawbreakers and traitors to face the appropriate and due process of law.
posted by kyrademon at 3:01 PM on July 11, 2017 [18 favorites]
There is a point where I stop doing political calculus and simply want lawbreakers and traitors to face the appropriate and due process of law.
posted by kyrademon at 3:01 PM on July 11, 2017 [18 favorites]
I've often wondered about one aspect of this process: exactly how large a peach does one need?
I'm sure there are uses for the judicial procedure of impeachment.
However, I believe with our current mephitic president, we could use the term imdurianment.
posted by BlueHorse at 4:34 PM on July 11, 2017 [3 favorites]
I'm sure there are uses for the judicial procedure of impeachment.
However, I believe with our current mephitic president, we could use the term imdurianment.
posted by BlueHorse at 4:34 PM on July 11, 2017 [3 favorites]
At the time of writing this post, no United States President has ever been successfully impeached
That might be correct in the most narrowly technical sense, but it's very misleading. Nixon resigned because he expected to be successfully impeached otherwise. The impeachment process was used against Nixon in a way that caused him to prematurely stop being president. So, saying "no president has been successfully impeached" glosses over this important example of the impeachment process effectively being used to prevent a president from finishing his term.
posted by John Cohen at 6:51 PM on July 11, 2017 [3 favorites]
That might be correct in the most narrowly technical sense, but it's very misleading. Nixon resigned because he expected to be successfully impeached otherwise. The impeachment process was used against Nixon in a way that caused him to prematurely stop being president. So, saying "no president has been successfully impeached" glosses over this important example of the impeachment process effectively being used to prevent a president from finishing his term.
posted by John Cohen at 6:51 PM on July 11, 2017 [3 favorites]
"Was successfully impeached" is like "was successfully prosecuted."
It's like saying someone was successfully indicted.
posted by jpe at 8:53 AM on July 12, 2017
It's like saying someone was successfully indicted.
posted by jpe at 8:53 AM on July 12, 2017
Oh, if only "impeach" meant "tar, feather, and run out of town on a rail" like in the Good Old Days.
posted by briank at 10:21 AM on July 12, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by briank at 10:21 AM on July 12, 2017 [1 favorite]
ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT HAVE BEEN FILED.
posted by Sophie1 at 11:29 AM on July 12, 2017 [6 favorites]
posted by Sophie1 at 11:29 AM on July 12, 2017 [6 favorites]
So who is going to play Archibald Cox?
Oh, if only "impeach" meant "tar, feather, and run out of town on a rail" like in the Good Old Days.
Impeach the dude but lets keep lynching and violence away from the Foo, please.
posted by clavdivs at 3:09 PM on July 12, 2017
Oh, if only "impeach" meant "tar, feather, and run out of town on a rail" like in the Good Old Days.
Impeach the dude but lets keep lynching and violence away from the Foo, please.
posted by clavdivs at 3:09 PM on July 12, 2017
I like my fruits. Durian cream mochi is wonderful.
Origin
late Middle English (also in the sense ‘hinder, prevent’; earlier as empeche): from Old French empecher ‘impede,’ from late Latin impedicare ‘catch, entangle’ (based on pedica ‘a fetter,’ from pes, ped- ‘foot’). Compare with impede.
—Dictionary
posted by polymodus at 4:40 PM on July 12, 2017
Origin
late Middle English (also in the sense ‘hinder, prevent’; earlier as empeche): from Old French empecher ‘impede,’ from late Latin impedicare ‘catch, entangle’ (based on pedica ‘a fetter,’ from pes, ped- ‘foot’). Compare with impede.
—Dictionary
posted by polymodus at 4:40 PM on July 12, 2017
Love the subliminal looooong neckties inserted subliminally around 5:40 in the video
posted by anothermug at 7:56 PM on July 12, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by anothermug at 7:56 PM on July 12, 2017 [1 favorite]
ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT HAVE BEEN FILED.
hell yes, the marshal of the supreme court is on his way to the white house to serve the president with a warrant of subternality and a summons to appear in court
posted by indubitable at 9:14 PM on July 12, 2017 [1 favorite]
hell yes, the marshal of the supreme court is on his way to the white house to serve the president with a warrant of subternality and a summons to appear in court
posted by indubitable at 9:14 PM on July 12, 2017 [1 favorite]
whoops sorry, now that i clicked through it looks like it's just Democrats LARPing at being a party that wins elections. false alarm.
posted by indubitable at 9:17 PM on July 12, 2017
posted by indubitable at 9:17 PM on July 12, 2017
BBC: The CIA told our top Russia correspondent Paul Wood, in January, that the Kremlin has multiple Trump sex tapes.
And in a moment of unprecendented unity, our entire war-torn, contentious world vomits as one.
posted by orange swan at 7:21 PM on July 14, 2017
And in a moment of unprecendented unity, our entire war-torn, contentious world vomits as one.
posted by orange swan at 7:21 PM on July 14, 2017
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