Vir2L.
May 14, 2000 6:35 PM Subscribe
Vir2L. Oh my god. Web designer eye-candy! Most impressive.
simply amazing
i want to see how long that loads without DSL...
posted by deckard at 6:50 PM on May 14, 2000
i want to see how long that loads without DSL...
posted by deckard at 6:50 PM on May 14, 2000
It took 0.8 forevers to load, but it was very, very purdy.
posted by hijinx at 8:03 PM on May 14, 2000
posted by hijinx at 8:03 PM on May 14, 2000
"i want to see how long that loads without DSL..."
Believe me, you don't. :) Personally I don't get it. Sure, it's pretty-- what are they trying to accomplish? I admit over my 36k connection I didn't have the patience to wait and find out, but I did see something about "we know how to make complex machines intuitive to use" or something like that. Huh? This was no intuitive interface... Oh well, I'm just an old fart compared to these design kiddies I guess.
posted by daveadams at 9:00 PM on May 14, 2000
Believe me, you don't. :) Personally I don't get it. Sure, it's pretty-- what are they trying to accomplish? I admit over my 36k connection I didn't have the patience to wait and find out, but I did see something about "we know how to make complex machines intuitive to use" or something like that. Huh? This was no intuitive interface... Oh well, I'm just an old fart compared to these design kiddies I guess.
posted by daveadams at 9:00 PM on May 14, 2000
design isn't just about a pretty picture. Design, in the web sense, equals engineering. Code. Code is the beautiful part. I'm still learning. You never stop. but a pretty picture or an expensive flash animation isn't design. it's eye-candy. And eye-candy is great, but there's a BROAD difference between eye candy, code, and design. Someone coined the phrase CONTENT IS KING.
Design, imho, is when it all comes together.
Vir2l (vir - tu - al) is just eye candy. Tell me how it loads on your PDA...
posted by eljuanbobo at 10:16 PM on May 14, 2000
Design, imho, is when it all comes together.
Vir2l (vir - tu - al) is just eye candy. Tell me how it loads on your PDA...
posted by eljuanbobo at 10:16 PM on May 14, 2000
more than that... vir2l is anti-design.
It's authoring as bullying: If you can't figure out what we're trying to do, we don't want you here."
Feh.
Gorgeous images? Yes. But coupled with contempt for the user? Doubleplusyes.
posted by aurelian at 10:30 PM on May 14, 2000
It's authoring as bullying: If you can't figure out what we're trying to do, we don't want you here."
Feh.
Gorgeous images? Yes. But coupled with contempt for the user? Doubleplusyes.
posted by aurelian at 10:30 PM on May 14, 2000
Purty? God, yes. But what's the point? Whatever they were selling/plugging/attempting to say, they didn't keep me around long enough to hear the message.
I'd go one step further than "content is king", I think, and say that clarity is king. If I can't work out what your site is about within a couple of minutes, all the content in the world ain't going to keep me there.
Interestingly, I keep reading vir2l as "viral" instead of "virtual". Funky the way the brain works.
posted by Georgina at 5:47 AM on May 15, 2000
I'd go one step further than "content is king", I think, and say that clarity is king. If I can't work out what your site is about within a couple of minutes, all the content in the world ain't going to keep me there.
Interestingly, I keep reading vir2l as "viral" instead of "virtual". Funky the way the brain works.
posted by Georgina at 5:47 AM on May 15, 2000
Hmph. I didn't wait for it to load... cable (tho in australia)... what angers me is the fact that it opens fullscreen without any prior warning. that's bad. like farting without leaving the room kinda bad.
posted by cheaily at 5:49 AM on May 15, 2000
posted by cheaily at 5:49 AM on May 15, 2000
As soon as it opened full screen, I hit Ctrl-Alt-Delete and killed the process without even thinking. It might be pretty, but I'll never see it.
posted by Calebos at 6:00 AM on May 15, 2000
posted by Calebos at 6:00 AM on May 15, 2000
Hmm.. you know, looking at these sites got me thinking, you don't really need content to "design". I mean, here I was going back and fourth, for about a year wondering what my site would be, and such, luckily I found out about blogger, and all is well. But, this raises a point, is content needed?
posted by tiaka at 9:13 AM on May 15, 2000
posted by tiaka at 9:13 AM on May 15, 2000
I'm with cheaily and Calebos. The moment a website takes over my desktop by opening fullscreen without asking me first - I'm gone.
Have they no concept of the idea of multi-tasking? Am I supposed to be that entranced by their design mastery that I have nothing better to do than watch the page load?
That site may be pretty, but after about 30 seconds of loading - who really cares?
schlyer - nf
posted by schlyer at 9:52 AM on May 15, 2000
Have they no concept of the idea of multi-tasking? Am I supposed to be that entranced by their design mastery that I have nothing better to do than watch the page load?
That site may be pretty, but after about 30 seconds of loading - who really cares?
schlyer - nf
posted by schlyer at 9:52 AM on May 15, 2000
It loaded VERY fast on my 2mb line. Fast as in *snap*. It's impressively smooth, very clever, but aesthetically not really my cup of tea - and I wasn't sure what kind of client they are trying to impress.
What I don't understand is why some of you take the trouble of going there and then stopping at the first obstacle. Patience is a virtue. :-)
People complain about the internet being slow, and sites being slow - but I think most of us are just impatient and spoilt by zap tv. If a site loads slow, I just open another window, do something else for a while. Multitasking, don't ya know.
posted by prolific at 11:24 AM on May 15, 2000
What I don't understand is why some of you take the trouble of going there and then stopping at the first obstacle. Patience is a virtue. :-)
People complain about the internet being slow, and sites being slow - but I think most of us are just impatient and spoilt by zap tv. If a site loads slow, I just open another window, do something else for a while. Multitasking, don't ya know.
posted by prolific at 11:24 AM on May 15, 2000
I think people need to realize that the point of the Vir2l site is not to sell something or have a point. It's do do something different because they can. Maybe that's bad in some people's eyes, but if they want to do that, more power to them. Ya gotta admit it's at least something different, regardless.
posted by vitaflo at 2:21 PM on May 15, 2000
posted by vitaflo at 2:21 PM on May 15, 2000
oh, duh - I've been working dot.com for only two weeks and already I'm thinking 'clients' and 'what's it selling'. Bah. Got the impression the site was corporate at first.
Anyway, I'm all for doing something 'because you can'. When I published a book in English rather than in my native tongue, the question most asked in interviews was 'why did you write it in English'. 'Because I could.'
But that's another story
My point was... I'm impressed. :-)
posted by prolific at 2:53 PM on May 15, 2000
Anyway, I'm all for doing something 'because you can'. When I published a book in English rather than in my native tongue, the question most asked in interviews was 'why did you write it in English'. 'Because I could.'
But that's another story
My point was... I'm impressed. :-)
posted by prolific at 2:53 PM on May 15, 2000
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