Let me tell you something, pendejo
September 17, 2017 1:59 PM Subscribe
Susan Sarandon posted on instagram the first photo from the shooting of "Going Places". Going Places is an upcoming crime comedy written, directed by, and starring John Turturro, acting as both a remake of the 1974 French film of the same name by Bertrand Blier, and a spin-off to the 1998 cult film The Big Lebowski, from which Turturro reprises his role as Jesus Quintana.
You're out of your element!
BTW, I can get you a toe.
posted by indianbadger1 at 2:07 PM on September 17, 2017
BTW, I can get you a toe.
posted by indianbadger1 at 2:07 PM on September 17, 2017
I hope Liam's involved.
posted by neckro23 at 2:11 PM on September 17, 2017 [5 favorites]
posted by neckro23 at 2:11 PM on September 17, 2017 [5 favorites]
What's this strange feeling? It's... interesting.
Wait. I know, I know!
Happy. This news makes me... happy.
It's been so long.
posted by Splunge at 2:22 PM on September 17, 2017 [9 favorites]
Wait. I know, I know!
Happy. This news makes me... happy.
It's been so long.
posted by Splunge at 2:22 PM on September 17, 2017 [9 favorites]
Despite Turturro’s skepticism, Jesus ended up being the breakout character of “The Big Lebowski,”Uhh, that's not the way I remember it, Dude.
Much as I like Tuturro, he doesn't make my ideal Lebowski sequel and Jesus Quintana doesn't star in it.
8 year olds, Dude.
posted by octobersurprise at 2:23 PM on September 17, 2017 [17 favorites]
That's just, like, your opinion, man
posted by wabbittwax at 2:26 PM on September 17, 2017 [23 favorites]
posted by wabbittwax at 2:26 PM on September 17, 2017 [23 favorites]
Well this is excellent news.
posted by phunniemee at 2:29 PM on September 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by phunniemee at 2:29 PM on September 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
Now a Tuturro-produced and starred-in sequel to Barton Fink? I'd lap that up.
posted by octobersurprise at 2:29 PM on September 17, 2017 [15 favorites]
posted by octobersurprise at 2:29 PM on September 17, 2017 [15 favorites]
To be honest, I'm not sold on the idea that a Jesus Quintana movie was what the world needed. But I like the idea of turning it into something else, or maybe more accurately, rewriting a character in an existing story to be Jesus. (Though it seems to me that would fall in the category of fucking with the Jesus, so I don't even know)
To me the more obviously interesting sequel would be "The Little Lebowski", in which young Georgia O'Keefe Lebowski, raised by her mother and Knox Harrington, the video artist (despite his cleft asshole), goes out in search of her biological father, about whom she knows next to nothing, other than that he loved bowling. She's a good kid, and thorough, so she finds him quickly and is pulled into some intrigue involving sitting shiva for Cynthia, Walter's Ex, who has left him a persnickety show-dog in her will, that has been kidnapped...
posted by wabbittwax at 2:35 PM on September 17, 2017 [74 favorites]
To me the more obviously interesting sequel would be "The Little Lebowski", in which young Georgia O'Keefe Lebowski, raised by her mother and Knox Harrington, the video artist (despite his cleft asshole), goes out in search of her biological father, about whom she knows next to nothing, other than that he loved bowling. She's a good kid, and thorough, so she finds him quickly and is pulled into some intrigue involving sitting shiva for Cynthia, Walter's Ex, who has left him a persnickety show-dog in her will, that has been kidnapped...
posted by wabbittwax at 2:35 PM on September 17, 2017 [74 favorites]
Much as I like Tuturro, he doesn't make my ideal Lebowski sequel and Jesus Quintana doesn't star in it.
+1. The whole Jesus thing could have been cut and it wouldn't have hurt the film.
I'd rather see a sequel about, oh, the beach town police chief.
posted by thelonius at 2:52 PM on September 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
+1. The whole Jesus thing could have been cut and it wouldn't have hurt the film.
I'd rather see a sequel about, oh, the beach town police chief.
posted by thelonius at 2:52 PM on September 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
Honestly, you could produce a 12-episode mini series of half-hour sketches, each starring a different character from The Big Lebowski, and there would be enough left over for a second season.
posted by ardgedee at 3:35 PM on September 17, 2017 [41 favorites]
posted by ardgedee at 3:35 PM on September 17, 2017 [41 favorites]
This is what happens you film a sequel in the Alps.
posted by infinitewindow at 3:51 PM on September 17, 2017 [37 favorites]
posted by infinitewindow at 3:51 PM on September 17, 2017 [37 favorites]
The ideal spin-off would’ve focused on Brant, but alas.
posted by The Potate at 4:05 PM on September 17, 2017 [10 favorites]
posted by The Potate at 4:05 PM on September 17, 2017 [10 favorites]
But I like the idea of turning it into something else, or maybe more accurately, rewriting a character in an existing story to be Jesus.
Yeah, this is a nifty approach to character and adaptation. Maybe not quite as radical as the plundering of character in At Swim-Two-Birds, but still a neat idea.
posted by kenko at 4:09 PM on September 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
Yeah, this is a nifty approach to character and adaptation. Maybe not quite as radical as the plundering of character in At Swim-Two-Birds, but still a neat idea.
posted by kenko at 4:09 PM on September 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
He rolled his way into a sequel?
Dios mio, man.
posted by hwyengr at 4:35 PM on September 17, 2017 [10 favorites]
Dios mio, man.
posted by hwyengr at 4:35 PM on September 17, 2017 [10 favorites]
I have to complain about one thing. Why does he get a "Written By" credit on a remake? Either he wrote it and it is a "cover" or "reimagining" or some other Hollywood weasel word, or it is a remake of the movie written by Bertrand Blier.
Also, hoping no machinery pees on Jesus.
posted by Samizdata at 5:06 PM on September 17, 2017
Also, hoping no machinery pees on Jesus.
posted by Samizdata at 5:06 PM on September 17, 2017
The whole Jesus thing could have been cut and it wouldn't have hurt the film.
I feel Jesus was in there to show us that the bowling world was full of fringe wierdos, and the main characters we follow over the course of the film were in no sense outliers in that environment. They were misfits who had found their tribe.
One interesting thing about the Jesus character is that he has this tiny little scrap of backstory, but it's hearsay. From Walter. There could be some flexibility there.
Not sure how I feel about this project overall.
posted by Western Infidels at 5:55 PM on September 17, 2017 [8 favorites]
I feel Jesus was in there to show us that the bowling world was full of fringe wierdos, and the main characters we follow over the course of the film were in no sense outliers in that environment. They were misfits who had found their tribe.
One interesting thing about the Jesus character is that he has this tiny little scrap of backstory, but it's hearsay. From Walter. There could be some flexibility there.
Not sure how I feel about this project overall.
posted by Western Infidels at 5:55 PM on September 17, 2017 [8 favorites]
Not only is Walter so obviously the breakout character of TBL that the above quote is painful and wrong, I'd love to see a sequel with Walter wandering through Trump's America, realizing just how fucked the country is when it's gone down his paranoid road and blown past him like he's standing still.
posted by Halloween Jack at 6:52 PM on September 17, 2017 [15 favorites]
posted by Halloween Jack at 6:52 PM on September 17, 2017 [15 favorites]
I hadn't heard of Going Places before this. Then I read the plot summary.
Don't remake this movie.
posted by kafziel at 6:54 PM on September 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
Don't remake this movie.
posted by kafziel at 6:54 PM on September 17, 2017 [3 favorites]
I want to be excited about this but the fact the character is a pedophile turns me off.
posted by photoslob at 6:54 PM on September 17, 2017
posted by photoslob at 6:54 PM on September 17, 2017
This might be the only film ever requiring cameos by both John Goodman and Gerard Depardieu.
posted by dannyboybell at 6:57 PM on September 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by dannyboybell at 6:57 PM on September 17, 2017 [1 favorite]
wabbitwax, I would watch your sequel. Please have it made.
posted by Hairy Lobster at 7:16 PM on September 17, 2017
posted by Hairy Lobster at 7:16 PM on September 17, 2017
Being turned off by a film with a pederast protagonist is a completely understandable stance, but from the second article in the post:
“It’s not a spinoff of ‘The Big Lebowski,'” said Turturro. “It’s much more sexual. You find out that he was framed [as a pedophile].”
I worked in bowling alleys for a decade, The Jesus is a very believable alley rat caricature.
posted by dudemanlives at 7:23 PM on September 17, 2017 [6 favorites]
“It’s not a spinoff of ‘The Big Lebowski,'” said Turturro. “It’s much more sexual. You find out that he was framed [as a pedophile].”
I worked in bowling alleys for a decade, The Jesus is a very believable alley rat caricature.
posted by dudemanlives at 7:23 PM on September 17, 2017 [6 favorites]
You find out that he was framed [as a pedophile]
I'm not surprised to hear that; it's practically a forced move, for the writing.
posted by thelonius at 8:09 PM on September 17, 2017
I'm not surprised to hear that; it's practically a forced move, for the writing.
posted by thelonius at 8:09 PM on September 17, 2017
Going Places is like the french Easy Rider, meaning it was massively popular on release and pretty much captured the spirit of the youth of its time. It's weird to remake that, specially with Turturo playing the lead.
posted by SageLeVoid at 4:08 AM on September 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by SageLeVoid at 4:08 AM on September 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
I hadn't heard of Going Places before this. Then I read the plot summary.
I'm surprised that nobody commented on the remake angle so far. The original movie (Les valseuses, which is a slang word for testicles) is rough. It was meant to be as provocative as possible, a middle finger to post-68 but still conservative France, and it worked: in spite of the controversy, it was a huge success in 1974 (3rd at the box office after Emmanuelle and Walt Disney's Robin Hood). There are many reasons why the movie is culturally significant: the 70s-era provocation, the wild and sometimes kinky sex, the quotable dialogue, the incredible cast (a mix of future stars - it was the breakout movie for Depardieu, Dewaere, Miou-Miou, and Huppert - and established actors - the late Jeanne Moreau, Brigitte Fossey).
But still, in the end, it's about two sociopathic jerks on a road trip who harass women and force them into more or less consensual sex acts to make them, uh, "free". Let's say it's a hard watch by 2017 standards (and by 1974 standards too, actually). Bertrand Blier, the director, has always claimed that he's a misanthrope rather than a misogynist, but that's disputable: it's true that the male heroes are depicted as assholes, but they are still fun assholes and the focus is on them (the last line of the movie is "We'll have hard-ons when we feel like it"). Since the appeal the movie is largely historical by now, and since the core of the movie is built on 70s-era fucked-up gender politics, I just don't see how a contemporary remake can make sense in the first place. Les Valseuses is basically Dumb and Dumber: rapist edition, what can be possibly done with that?
posted by elgilito at 4:10 AM on September 18, 2017 [12 favorites]
I'm surprised that nobody commented on the remake angle so far. The original movie (Les valseuses, which is a slang word for testicles) is rough. It was meant to be as provocative as possible, a middle finger to post-68 but still conservative France, and it worked: in spite of the controversy, it was a huge success in 1974 (3rd at the box office after Emmanuelle and Walt Disney's Robin Hood). There are many reasons why the movie is culturally significant: the 70s-era provocation, the wild and sometimes kinky sex, the quotable dialogue, the incredible cast (a mix of future stars - it was the breakout movie for Depardieu, Dewaere, Miou-Miou, and Huppert - and established actors - the late Jeanne Moreau, Brigitte Fossey).
But still, in the end, it's about two sociopathic jerks on a road trip who harass women and force them into more or less consensual sex acts to make them, uh, "free". Let's say it's a hard watch by 2017 standards (and by 1974 standards too, actually). Bertrand Blier, the director, has always claimed that he's a misanthrope rather than a misogynist, but that's disputable: it's true that the male heroes are depicted as assholes, but they are still fun assholes and the focus is on them (the last line of the movie is "We'll have hard-ons when we feel like it"). Since the appeal the movie is largely historical by now, and since the core of the movie is built on 70s-era fucked-up gender politics, I just don't see how a contemporary remake can make sense in the first place. Les Valseuses is basically Dumb and Dumber: rapist edition, what can be possibly done with that?
posted by elgilito at 4:10 AM on September 18, 2017 [12 favorites]
Les Valseuses is basically Dumb and Dumber: rapist edition, what can be possibly done with that?
Eight year olds, dude.
posted by wabbittwax at 5:50 AM on September 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
Eight year olds, dude.
posted by wabbittwax at 5:50 AM on September 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
Honestly, you could produce a 12-episode mini series of half-hour sketches, each starring a different character from The Big Lebowski, and there would be enough left over for a second season.
with H. Jon Benjamin as the white russian
posted by zippy at 8:26 AM on September 18, 2017 [3 favorites]
with H. Jon Benjamin as the white russian
posted by zippy at 8:26 AM on September 18, 2017 [3 favorites]
Much as I like Tuturro, he doesn't make my ideal Lebowski sequel and Jesus Quintana doesn't star in it.
Nobody fucks with the Jesus!
posted by e1c at 9:20 AM on September 18, 2017
Nobody fucks with the Jesus!
posted by e1c at 9:20 AM on September 18, 2017
Honestly, you could produce a 12-episode mini series of half-hour sketches, each starring a different character from The Big Lebowski, and there would be enough left over for a second season.
I would watch a mini-series about the minor characters in practically any Coen Brothers movie. Each season could be about a different movie. I still think about this lady all the time.
posted by aabbbiee at 12:12 PM on September 18, 2017
I would watch a mini-series about the minor characters in practically any Coen Brothers movie. Each season could be about a different movie. I still think about this lady all the time.
posted by aabbbiee at 12:12 PM on September 18, 2017
I guess I felt like the whole character and characterization was, like, racist enough when it was 20 years ago? But this White Guy Does Hilarious Non-White Accent thing just ... I mean, I loved the movie and I feel like the only one who has A Problem with that element of it.
posted by Occula at 12:18 PM on September 18, 2017
posted by Occula at 12:18 PM on September 18, 2017
The whole Jesus thing could have been cut and it wouldn't have hurt the film.
I feel Jesus was in there to show us that the bowling world was full of fringe wierdos
He tied the bowling weirdos together, man.
posted by Ogre Lawless at 1:19 PM on September 18, 2017
I feel Jesus was in there to show us that the bowling world was full of fringe wierdos
He tied the bowling weirdos together, man.
posted by Ogre Lawless at 1:19 PM on September 18, 2017
This was a valued thug.
posted by wabbittwax at 1:54 PM on September 18, 2017
posted by wabbittwax at 1:54 PM on September 18, 2017
White Guy Does Hilarious Non-White Accent thing
There are plenty of people from Latin America who share Turturro's Sicilian ancestry; there's nothing inherently racist about him doing that accent.
posted by aspersioncast at 2:31 PM on September 18, 2017
There are plenty of people from Latin America who share Turturro's Sicilian ancestry; there's nothing inherently racist about him doing that accent.
posted by aspersioncast at 2:31 PM on September 18, 2017
I'm curious - is this the first Coen Bros film to receive anything like a sequel? Evidently they had been kicking around a Barton Fink followup idea, but this may be the first actual concrete sequel.
posted by FatherDagon at 11:55 AM on September 19, 2017
posted by FatherDagon at 11:55 AM on September 19, 2017
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