“I'll take two.”
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Tomb Raider [YouTube][Official Trailer] “From Warner Bros. Pictures and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Pictures, Tomb Raider is the story that will set a young and resolute Lara Croft on a path toward becoming a global hero. The film stars Oscar winner Alicia Vikander (Ex Machina, The Danish Girl) in the lead role, under the direction of Roar Uthaug (The Wave), with Oscar-winner Graham King (The Departed) producing under his GK Films banner. The film¹s production begins on the heels of the 20th anniversary of the wildly popular videogame franchise from Square Enix, Crystal Dynamics and Eidos Montreal.”
The gameplay in the two (rebooted) games is great but the story is barely coherent, so it won't be hard to surpass the source material. Wish they hadn't rebooted the movie franchise with a origins story though, Lara Croft doesn't need one.
posted by Foci for Analysis at 5:01 AM on September 20, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by Foci for Analysis at 5:01 AM on September 20, 2017 [4 favorites]
The Sonic Cycle and the Video Game Movie Cycle are identical:
New Announcement -> Increasing Hype -> Disappointing Release -> New Announcement
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 5:02 AM on September 20, 2017
New Announcement -> Increasing Hype -> Disappointing Release -> New Announcement
posted by Mr.Encyclopedia at 5:02 AM on September 20, 2017
Mr. Encylopedia, Sonic Mania seems to have broken that cycle.
posted by Fizz at 5:03 AM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by Fizz at 5:03 AM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
But your point is taken, the majority of video-game film adaptations have not fared well on the larger screen.
posted by Fizz at 5:04 AM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by Fizz at 5:04 AM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
The "island of death" stuff is from the 2013 tomb raider.
I've never seen this actress before (ex machina is still on my watchlist). She seems kind of wooden?
posted by selfnoise at 5:07 AM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
I've never seen this actress before (ex machina is still on my watchlist). She seems kind of wooden?
posted by selfnoise at 5:07 AM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
This game-play trailer, also gives a good sense of what they're really adapting. The Trinity story in Rise of the Tomb Raider is mostly magical McGuffin nonsense. It'll be interesting to see how heavily this film pushes that part of the story.
posted by Fizz at 5:07 AM on September 20, 2017
posted by Fizz at 5:07 AM on September 20, 2017
Wow. This looks like nothing I've ever seen before. Well, this week anyway...
Looks like the cash in on female led action movies has begun in earnest.
posted by gusottertrout at 5:09 AM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
Looks like the cash in on female led action movies has begun in earnest.
posted by gusottertrout at 5:09 AM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
If they want to make a faithful adaptation of the games, 90% of the movie will be about Lara shivering, collecting pelts, swinging from rooftop to rooftop, and experiencing one gruesome death after the other.
posted by Foci for Analysis at 5:12 AM on September 20, 2017 [23 favorites]
posted by Foci for Analysis at 5:12 AM on September 20, 2017 [23 favorites]
shivering, collecting pelts, swinging from rooftop to rooftop, and experiencing one gruesome death after the other.
Don't forget fashionable tight fitting clothing.
posted by Fizz at 5:15 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
Don't forget fashionable tight fitting clothing.
posted by Fizz at 5:15 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
I suppose it's too much to hope that Chris Barrie still plays the butler?
posted by radwolf76 at 5:17 AM on September 20, 2017 [7 favorites]
posted by radwolf76 at 5:17 AM on September 20, 2017 [7 favorites]
I'm happy to be along for the ride with this one, even though the trailer can't seem to decide whether it's about Young, Vulnerable TR2013 Lara or Cool Badass 90s Lara. And they seem to have dropped the best part of TR2013, i.e. the supporting cast of Lara's expedition buddies. (Most notably Sam, who the reboot series fandom immediately shipped with Lara, which is actually a Pretty Good Ship IMO.)
They're also mashing up the plots of the two games a fair bit, taking both the shipwreck from the first one and the race-against-Trinity plot from the second, so at least the story won't be a total retread.
Anyway, I'm cautiously optimistic. But I still think they should have just hired Camilla Luddington for the movie.
posted by tobascodagama at 5:24 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
They're also mashing up the plots of the two games a fair bit, taking both the shipwreck from the first one and the race-against-Trinity plot from the second, so at least the story won't be a total retread.
Anyway, I'm cautiously optimistic. But I still think they should have just hired Camilla Luddington for the movie.
posted by tobascodagama at 5:24 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
and experiencing one gruesome death after the other.
Laura Rennt
posted by lmfsilva at 5:30 AM on September 20, 2017 [16 favorites]
Laura Rennt
posted by lmfsilva at 5:30 AM on September 20, 2017 [16 favorites]
Oh good. Another origin story.
posted by cribcage at 5:44 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by cribcage at 5:44 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
Oh good. Another origin story.
Depending on how successful this is, you know the producers are hoping for something they can turn into a series/sequel/trilogy of some kind.
posted by Fizz at 5:48 AM on September 20, 2017
Depending on how successful this is, you know the producers are hoping for something they can turn into a series/sequel/trilogy of some kind.
posted by Fizz at 5:48 AM on September 20, 2017
I'm happy to be along for the ride with this one, even though the trailer can't seem to decide whether it's about Young, Vulnerable TR2013 Lara or Cool Badass 90s Lara.
Lara Everdeen most likely.
posted by gusottertrout at 5:54 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
Lara Everdeen most likely.
posted by gusottertrout at 5:54 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
Should be a progression: Movie 1-save the island. Movie 2-Save....a country? Movie 3 - Save the world?
posted by exparrot at 6:04 AM on September 20, 2017
posted by exparrot at 6:04 AM on September 20, 2017
Depending on how successful this is, you know the producers are hoping for something they can turn into a series/sequel/trilogy of some kind.
Trilogies are so 80s/90s. The new hotness is Cinematic Shared Universes, though the obvious potential partner franchises are with different studios: Sony's got Uncharted, Disney's got Indiana Jones and National Treasure. Even if they wanted to try to go further afield to something like Assassin's Creed, 20th Century Fox has that one.
posted by radwolf76 at 6:07 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
Trilogies are so 80s/90s. The new hotness is Cinematic Shared Universes, though the obvious potential partner franchises are with different studios: Sony's got Uncharted, Disney's got Indiana Jones and National Treasure. Even if they wanted to try to go further afield to something like Assassin's Creed, 20th Century Fox has that one.
posted by radwolf76 at 6:07 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
>> The "island of death" stuff is from the 2013 tomb raider.
>> I've never seen this actress before (ex machina is still on my watchlist). She seems kind of wooden?
Yes, definitely very robotic.
posted by jeremias at 6:10 AM on September 20, 2017 [13 favorites]
>> I've never seen this actress before (ex machina is still on my watchlist). She seems kind of wooden?
Yes, definitely very robotic.
posted by jeremias at 6:10 AM on September 20, 2017 [13 favorites]
The movie poster has been getting some attention, none of it good. (I'm hoping that a fellow DS9 fan will photoshop Gul Dukat's head onto it.)
posted by Halloween Jack at 6:17 AM on September 20, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by Halloween Jack at 6:17 AM on September 20, 2017 [3 favorites]
The new hotness is Cinematic Shared Universes, though the obvious potential partner franchises are with different studios: Sony's got Uncharted, Disney's got Indiana Jones and National Treasure. Even if they wanted to try to go further afield to something like Assassin's Creed, 20th Century Fox has that one.
So all of this is building up to a shared video-game universe? Wreck-It-Ralph 2!!
posted by Fizz at 6:18 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
So all of this is building up to a shared video-game universe? Wreck-It-Ralph 2!!
posted by Fizz at 6:18 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
They found the one thing that would make me shell out my cash for this mish-mash of nonsense: Nick Frost.
posted by evilDoug at 6:19 AM on September 20, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by evilDoug at 6:19 AM on September 20, 2017 [4 favorites]
> The movie poster has been getting some attention, none of it good.
If you think she's not so committed to her role that she'd have her shoulder blades surgically removed for it, you've got another think coming!
posted by ardgedee at 6:21 AM on September 20, 2017 [4 favorites]
If you think she's not so committed to her role that she'd have her shoulder blades surgically removed for it, you've got another think coming!
posted by ardgedee at 6:21 AM on September 20, 2017 [4 favorites]
I've never seen this actress before (ex machina is still on my watchlist). She seems kind of wooden?
She's pretty good. You should get round to Ex Machina, and maybe give Royal Affair a look as well, I'm not a fan of period drama but it is very good all round. I'm not convinced she can do a British accent though.
posted by biffa at 6:24 AM on September 20, 2017
She's pretty good. You should get round to Ex Machina, and maybe give Royal Affair a look as well, I'm not a fan of period drama but it is very good all round. I'm not convinced she can do a British accent though.
posted by biffa at 6:24 AM on September 20, 2017
to be fair - if it's a straight version of the video game, that too was appalling (dramatically, it was a solid game).
posted by Sebmojo at 6:25 AM on September 20, 2017
posted by Sebmojo at 6:25 AM on September 20, 2017
So is this a remake of a videogame adaptation or an adaptation of a remake of a videogame?
posted by octothorpe at 6:28 AM on September 20, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by octothorpe at 6:28 AM on September 20, 2017 [3 favorites]
So is this a remake of a videogame adaptation or an adaptation of a remake of a videogame?
“It is a riddle, wrapped in a film, inside a video-game; but perhaps there is a sequel.”
posted by Fizz at 6:30 AM on September 20, 2017 [5 favorites]
“It is a riddle, wrapped in a film, inside a video-game; but perhaps there is a sequel.”
posted by Fizz at 6:30 AM on September 20, 2017 [5 favorites]
The movie poster has been getting some attention, none of it good.
Occasionally I feel optimistic about the human race, but then I remember that we created a pose specifically to show tits and ass on the same 2D plane, then forced every actress in modern history to stand like this. And then they weren't twisting to our satisfaction so we used Photoshop to remove their bones.
Good stuff.
posted by selfnoise at 6:31 AM on September 20, 2017 [9 favorites]
Occasionally I feel optimistic about the human race, but then I remember that we created a pose specifically to show tits and ass on the same 2D plane, then forced every actress in modern history to stand like this. And then they weren't twisting to our satisfaction so we used Photoshop to remove their bones.
Good stuff.
posted by selfnoise at 6:31 AM on September 20, 2017 [9 favorites]
Depending on how successful this is, you know the producers are hoping for something they can turn into a series/sequel/trilogy of some kind.
What do you mean? This film will already be the third in a trilogy, after Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (2001) and Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life (2003).
posted by heatherlogan at 6:35 AM on September 20, 2017
What do you mean? This film will already be the third in a trilogy, after Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (2001) and Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life (2003).
posted by heatherlogan at 6:35 AM on September 20, 2017
Well this looks like pretty standard adventure fare and I don't know if I need another -- WAIT A SECOND WAS THAT WALTON GOGGINS!? *furious IMDBing* It was! It was Walton Goggins! OK then. Take my money.
posted by The Bellman at 6:55 AM on September 20, 2017 [10 favorites]
posted by The Bellman at 6:55 AM on September 20, 2017 [10 favorites]
That means it's a Western.
posted by Artw at 6:58 AM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by Artw at 6:58 AM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
I think Many a True Nerd summed my feelings up best on Twitter:
"On the plus side, this is a rare example of a film you can watch in full before it comes out. Just search 'Tomb Raider all cutscenes' on YT."
posted by Laura Palmer's Cold Dead Kiss at 7:37 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
"On the plus side, this is a rare example of a film you can watch in full before it comes out. Just search 'Tomb Raider all cutscenes' on YT."
posted by Laura Palmer's Cold Dead Kiss at 7:37 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
The 2013 Tomb Raider was a fun game to play and a silly story to watch.
It was designed well in that it gave the player open areas to explore but wasn't so open that you just wandered aimlessly. There was a nice sense of progression, of getting pulled further into the island and experiencing increasingly ridiculous story beats and set pieces.
There were a number of scenes here that recalled some memorable moments from the game that make me hopeful that the creators of the movie have taken the right lessons. Start small, get silly, stay fun. Maybe we'll get something like John Wick in the jungle.
posted by Tevin at 8:00 AM on September 20, 2017 [5 favorites]
It was designed well in that it gave the player open areas to explore but wasn't so open that you just wandered aimlessly. There was a nice sense of progression, of getting pulled further into the island and experiencing increasingly ridiculous story beats and set pieces.
There were a number of scenes here that recalled some memorable moments from the game that make me hopeful that the creators of the movie have taken the right lessons. Start small, get silly, stay fun. Maybe we'll get something like John Wick in the jungle.
posted by Tevin at 8:00 AM on September 20, 2017 [5 favorites]
So, here is what I'm thinking would make a good video game movie. Well, maybe an interesting video game movie.
Our hero is sucked into a video game universe, ala Tron. However, instead of zipping about on bikes or throwing frisbees, they play in a rogue-like, die repeatedly and start over. The question becomes not if the hero can escape, but whether or not they will be able to cope with the mental trauma incurred by the repeated runs.
It's Groundhog Day meets Tron, basically.
posted by nubs at 8:18 AM on September 20, 2017 [7 favorites]
Our hero is sucked into a video game universe, ala Tron. However, instead of zipping about on bikes or throwing frisbees, they play in a rogue-like, die repeatedly and start over. The question becomes not if the hero can escape, but whether or not they will be able to cope with the mental trauma incurred by the repeated runs.
It's Groundhog Day meets Tron, basically.
posted by nubs at 8:18 AM on September 20, 2017 [7 favorites]
The movie poster has been getting some attention, none of it good.
This is getting some pushback now. (twitter links)
posted by ODiV at 8:23 AM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
This is getting some pushback now. (twitter links)
posted by ODiV at 8:23 AM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
At least it didn't have a slowed down, industrial version of "Seasons in the Sun" or something playing over the trailer.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 8:35 AM on September 20, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by robocop is bleeding at 8:35 AM on September 20, 2017 [3 favorites]
Our hero is sucked into a video game universe, ala Tron. However, instead of zipping about on bikes or throwing frisbees, they play in a rogue-like, die repeatedly and start over. The question becomes not if the hero can escape, but whether or not they will be able to cope with the mental trauma incurred by the repeated runs.
If you take away the literal trapped-in-a-video-game trope, this is more or less the plot of Edge of Tomorrow, which was infamously retitled as Live. Die. Repeat. on DVD.
posted by Strange Interlude at 8:38 AM on September 20, 2017 [7 favorites]
If you take away the literal trapped-in-a-video-game trope, this is more or less the plot of Edge of Tomorrow, which was infamously retitled as Live. Die. Repeat. on DVD.
posted by Strange Interlude at 8:38 AM on September 20, 2017 [7 favorites]
That was such an odd trailer. The frequent cuts to black were... bizarre and made it all feel disjointed.
posted by Brockles at 8:45 AM on September 20, 2017
posted by Brockles at 8:45 AM on September 20, 2017
I'm loving all the neck poster tweets. So many LOLs. I love that we have forensic-detailed levels of investigation happening for this poster.
posted by Fizz at 8:46 AM on September 20, 2017
posted by Fizz at 8:46 AM on September 20, 2017
Our hero is sucked into a video game universe ... they play in a rogue-like, die repeatedly and start over.
Please please please give me Nethack: the Movie. I'll be good. I won't hit with a wielded weapon, or commit genocide, or anything.
posted by asperity at 8:46 AM on September 20, 2017 [3 favorites]
Please please please give me Nethack: the Movie. I'll be good. I won't hit with a wielded weapon, or commit genocide, or anything.
posted by asperity at 8:46 AM on September 20, 2017 [3 favorites]
If you take away the literal trapped-in-a-video-game trope, this is more or less the plot of Edge of Tomorrow, which was infamously retitled as Live. Die. Repeat. on DVD.
I thought Live. Die. Repeat. was the tagline? Anyways, yes, that is basically the same idea as mine, sans video game element (which is perhaps not that important), although I would've liked to have seen the mental trauma explored a bit more than Edge of Tomorrow did (and now I've just remembered that Bill Paxton was in that movie and am sad).
posted by nubs at 8:46 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
I thought Live. Die. Repeat. was the tagline? Anyways, yes, that is basically the same idea as mine, sans video game element (which is perhaps not that important), although I would've liked to have seen the mental trauma explored a bit more than Edge of Tomorrow did (and now I've just remembered that Bill Paxton was in that movie and am sad).
posted by nubs at 8:46 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
If you take away the literal trapped-in-a-video-game trope, this is more or less the plot of Edge of Tomorrow, which was infamously retitled as Live. Die. Repeat. on DVD.
And the retitle was still worse than the title of the original story, All You Need Is Kill. That someone bought the rights to that story and managed to produce a movie with two different inferior titles is amazing.
posted by Pater Aletheias at 8:49 AM on September 20, 2017 [6 favorites]
And the retitle was still worse than the title of the original story, All You Need Is Kill. That someone bought the rights to that story and managed to produce a movie with two different inferior titles is amazing.
posted by Pater Aletheias at 8:49 AM on September 20, 2017 [6 favorites]
Watched the trailer.
Looks terrible.
posted by kyrademon at 8:54 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
Looks terrible.
posted by kyrademon at 8:54 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
Hey Eidos/Crystal dynamics, please take your TR money and make a shared universe movie + game reboot of Soul Reaver.
Kain refused the sacrifice!
I miss that franchise so much. It had this gameplay dynamic where you had to die and go into the spirit world, where the landscape was subtly different so you could reach that ledge finally. I've haven't seen it used since. And Raziel is so much more interesting than Lara. How many souls has she ever swallowed?
posted by adept256 at 8:56 AM on September 20, 2017 [5 favorites]
Kain refused the sacrifice!
I miss that franchise so much. It had this gameplay dynamic where you had to die and go into the spirit world, where the landscape was subtly different so you could reach that ledge finally. I've haven't seen it used since. And Raziel is so much more interesting than Lara. How many souls has she ever swallowed?
posted by adept256 at 8:56 AM on September 20, 2017 [5 favorites]
I thought Live. Die. Repeat. was the tagline?
It's semi-ambiguous from the DVD packaging, but the in-development sequel has the working title Live Die Repeat and Repeat, so that seems like an acknowledgement of at least a soft title change for the franchise.
(That said, All You Need Is Kill is a vastly superior title to any of the above.)
posted by Strange Interlude at 9:03 AM on September 20, 2017
It's semi-ambiguous from the DVD packaging, but the in-development sequel has the working title Live Die Repeat and Repeat, so that seems like an acknowledgement of at least a soft title change for the franchise.
(That said, All You Need Is Kill is a vastly superior title to any of the above.)
posted by Strange Interlude at 9:03 AM on September 20, 2017
the in-development sequel
Ah, the Hollywood formula: Film. Franchise. Repeat.
posted by nubs at 9:10 AM on September 20, 2017
Ah, the Hollywood formula: Film. Franchise. Repeat.
posted by nubs at 9:10 AM on September 20, 2017
It had this gameplay dynamic where you had to die and go into the spirit world, where the landscape was subtly different so you could reach that ledge finally.
The Secret World/Secret World Legends use this as a mechanic in a number of missions. The world geometry generally remains the same, but when you're dead you can see and interact with spirits that aren't there while you're alive. Usually, the spirits provide you with clues to the next part of a puzzle, but sometimes you have to do binding rituals while dead. And sometimes they're just there to be creepy as hell.
(This is actually tangentially related to the thread, as well, in that The Secret World has been optioned for a potential TV show...)
posted by tobascodagama at 9:15 AM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
The Secret World/Secret World Legends use this as a mechanic in a number of missions. The world geometry generally remains the same, but when you're dead you can see and interact with spirits that aren't there while you're alive. Usually, the spirits provide you with clues to the next part of a puzzle, but sometimes you have to do binding rituals while dead. And sometimes they're just there to be creepy as hell.
(This is actually tangentially related to the thread, as well, in that The Secret World has been optioned for a potential TV show...)
posted by tobascodagama at 9:15 AM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
It looks fun enough for lazy weekend afternoon, except for the "save humanity" stuff. That level of consequence always seems ridiculous in most movies.
Plus these these days I'm more inclined to say "Eh, stay home super person, humanity doesn't deserve saving. Let's just Netflix and chill during the apocalypse."
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 9:21 AM on September 20, 2017
Plus these these days I'm more inclined to say "Eh, stay home super person, humanity doesn't deserve saving. Let's just Netflix and chill during the apocalypse."
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 9:21 AM on September 20, 2017
From the photo I'm hoping this is in the same cinematic universe as the Alien franchise. It would explain the "Save Humanity" thing.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 9:31 AM on September 20, 2017
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 9:31 AM on September 20, 2017
Edge of Tomorrow, which was infamously retitled as Live. Die. Repeat [...]
And the retitle was still worse than the title of the original story, All You Need Is Kill [...]
Am I crazy or are all three of those titles terrible?
posted by Atom Eyes at 9:47 AM on September 20, 2017 [7 favorites]
And the retitle was still worse than the title of the original story, All You Need Is Kill [...]
Am I crazy or are all three of those titles terrible?
posted by Atom Eyes at 9:47 AM on September 20, 2017 [7 favorites]
Tom Cruise: The Alien one with Emily Blunt was the best title but alas the suits had to go and muck it up
posted by Tevin at 10:22 AM on September 20, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by Tevin at 10:22 AM on September 20, 2017 [4 favorites]
Personally, I would've gone with: Tom Cruise Dies. Repeatedly.
posted by nubs at 10:25 AM on September 20, 2017 [12 favorites]
posted by nubs at 10:25 AM on September 20, 2017 [12 favorites]
(This is actually tangentially related to the thread, as well, in that The Secret World has been optioned for a potential TV show...)
I would definitely rather watch that than Tomb Raider, regardless of iteration/version/reboot. There were some genuinely good stories in TSW, and the best music in there is absolutely haunting. (Plus, maybe they could get Jeffrey Combs to reprise his roles.)
posted by mordax at 10:30 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
I would definitely rather watch that than Tomb Raider, regardless of iteration/version/reboot. There were some genuinely good stories in TSW, and the best music in there is absolutely haunting. (Plus, maybe they could get Jeffrey Combs to reprise his roles.)
posted by mordax at 10:30 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
Hey Eidos/Crystal dynamics, please take your TR money and make a shared universe movie + game reboot of Soul Reaver.
To do Legacy of Kain/Soul Reaver any justice, the only box office that should get involved is Home. HBO, or even Netflix or really any other premium television outfit, giving it a multi-season treatment.
But even so, it'd be damn hard to find a replacement for the late Tony Jay's voice work. Don't get me wrong, Simon Templeton and Michael Bell brought tremendous charisma to their roles, but I really can't think of anyone who could match the pure liquid menace of Tony Jay when he's getting his villainy on.
posted by radwolf76 at 10:52 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
To do Legacy of Kain/Soul Reaver any justice, the only box office that should get involved is Home. HBO, or even Netflix or really any other premium television outfit, giving it a multi-season treatment.
But even so, it'd be damn hard to find a replacement for the late Tony Jay's voice work. Don't get me wrong, Simon Templeton and Michael Bell brought tremendous charisma to their roles, but I really can't think of anyone who could match the pure liquid menace of Tony Jay when he's getting his villainy on.
posted by radwolf76 at 10:52 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
Ah yes, reclaim TV vampires from Twilight inspired teen romance dramas. It would need Game of Thrones' budget though, so forget it.
I would read a Legacy of Kain high fantasy novel series though, where I can't even imagine Tomb Raider being more than a slender comic.
posted by adept256 at 11:22 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
I would read a Legacy of Kain high fantasy novel series though, where I can't even imagine Tomb Raider being more than a slender comic.
posted by adept256 at 11:22 AM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
To do Legacy of Kain/Soul Reaver any justice, the only box office that should get involved is Home. HBO, or even Netflix
HBO is too busy adapting The Watchmen.
posted by Fizz at 11:40 AM on September 20, 2017
HBO is too busy adapting The Watchmen.
posted by Fizz at 11:40 AM on September 20, 2017
Edge of Tomorrow, which was infamously retitled as Live. Die. Repeat [...]
And the retitle was still worse than the title of the original story, All You Need Is Kill [...]
Am I crazy or are all three of those titles terrible?
I can't speak to whether you are crazy, but All You Need Is Kill is a FANTASTIC movie title.
posted by joelhunt at 12:27 PM on September 20, 2017 [3 favorites]
And the retitle was still worse than the title of the original story, All You Need Is Kill [...]
Am I crazy or are all three of those titles terrible?
I can't speak to whether you are crazy, but All You Need Is Kill is a FANTASTIC movie title.
posted by joelhunt at 12:27 PM on September 20, 2017 [3 favorites]
Watched the trailer.
Looks terrible.
A lot of action movies look terrible. A lot of action movies are terrible. Within that genre I like seeing more female leads and I like that she was wearing pants instead of short shorts and that all of the shots in the trailer weren't focused on her ass.
posted by ActingTheGoat at 1:07 PM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
Looks terrible.
A lot of action movies look terrible. A lot of action movies are terrible. Within that genre I like seeing more female leads and I like that she was wearing pants instead of short shorts and that all of the shots in the trailer weren't focused on her ass.
posted by ActingTheGoat at 1:07 PM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
Am I crazy or are all three of those titles terrible?
The original is at least distinctive.
posted by Artw at 1:33 PM on September 20, 2017
The original is at least distinctive.
posted by Artw at 1:33 PM on September 20, 2017
> "Within that genre I like seeing more female leads and I like that she was wearing pants instead of short shorts and that all of the shots in the trailer weren't focused on her ass."
Sure, no question.
The trailer still makes me think it's going to be godawful, though.
posted by kyrademon at 1:59 PM on September 20, 2017
Sure, no question.
The trailer still makes me think it's going to be godawful, though.
posted by kyrademon at 1:59 PM on September 20, 2017
The best bits of the 2013 Tomb Raider remake were taken from The Descent - the most memorable images (The Descent vs Tomb Raider), the strong female cast (vs Tomb Raider's classic Lara alone vs everyone), the use of climbing axes as a weapon and so on.
I'm not saying this to accuse the game of anything that's not obvious - I really enjoyed it.
I'm saying watch The Descent.
posted by Silentgoldfish at 2:13 PM on September 20, 2017 [7 favorites]
I'm not saying this to accuse the game of anything that's not obvious - I really enjoyed it.
I'm saying watch The Descent.
posted by Silentgoldfish at 2:13 PM on September 20, 2017 [7 favorites]
you know the producers are hoping for something they can turn into a series/sequel/trilogy
Sure, of course. That's always their goal. No studio makes any kind of big-budget film without hoping it'll spawn a series. But that isn't my point.
My point is, these studios continue to fail to understand that Batman, Superman, Lara Croft, the Transformers, and all the rest have endured because they are well-crafted characters that don't require origin stories. Yes, those characters all have neat origins, but the reason the characters have endured is that absolutely anyone can pick up a Wonder Woman comic book and enjoy the story without knowing what Themyscira is. "Hippolyta, who? I dunno but Wonder Woman kicked those bad guys' butts!"
Everybody knows Superman. He's bulletproof, and he can fly. Go write a movie. YOU DO NOT NEED JOR-EL. Batman: rich dude, batarangs. Go write. DO NOT SHOW ZORRO OR PEARLS. Stop it already with the origin stories. It was bad enough that every character needed a movie origin—now we need to reshoot the (same goddamn) origin story every ten years when we reboot? PLEASE STOP.
posted by cribcage at 2:44 PM on September 20, 2017 [7 favorites]
Sure, of course. That's always their goal. No studio makes any kind of big-budget film without hoping it'll spawn a series. But that isn't my point.
My point is, these studios continue to fail to understand that Batman, Superman, Lara Croft, the Transformers, and all the rest have endured because they are well-crafted characters that don't require origin stories. Yes, those characters all have neat origins, but the reason the characters have endured is that absolutely anyone can pick up a Wonder Woman comic book and enjoy the story without knowing what Themyscira is. "Hippolyta, who? I dunno but Wonder Woman kicked those bad guys' butts!"
Everybody knows Superman. He's bulletproof, and he can fly. Go write a movie. YOU DO NOT NEED JOR-EL. Batman: rich dude, batarangs. Go write. DO NOT SHOW ZORRO OR PEARLS. Stop it already with the origin stories. It was bad enough that every character needed a movie origin—now we need to reshoot the (same goddamn) origin story every ten years when we reboot? PLEASE STOP.
posted by cribcage at 2:44 PM on September 20, 2017 [7 favorites]
I'm saying watch The Descent.
For whatever reason, I always conflate The Cave with The Descent (maybe because they both came out in 2005 in addition to other similarities) - I go "oh, that's the movie about the people who get trapped in a cave and things eat them" and assume I've already seen The Descent when I actually haven't; I've seen The Cave. Which I don't really recall much of. I maybe gave up on it halfway through? Not sure.
Anyways, re-adding the Descent to my list of movies I should watch.
posted by nubs at 2:49 PM on September 20, 2017 [3 favorites]
For whatever reason, I always conflate The Cave with The Descent (maybe because they both came out in 2005 in addition to other similarities) - I go "oh, that's the movie about the people who get trapped in a cave and things eat them" and assume I've already seen The Descent when I actually haven't; I've seen The Cave. Which I don't really recall much of. I maybe gave up on it halfway through? Not sure.
Anyways, re-adding the Descent to my list of movies I should watch.
posted by nubs at 2:49 PM on September 20, 2017 [3 favorites]
I can't speak to whether you are crazy, but All You Need Is Kill is a FANTASTIC movie title.
No sir, it is YOUR opinion that is wrong. See the attached literature for objective analysis.
posted by thedaniel at 3:13 PM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
No sir, it is YOUR opinion that is wrong. See the attached literature for objective analysis.
posted by thedaniel at 3:13 PM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
The Cave is a puzzle platformer and Descent is a 3d shoot em up.
posted by adept256 at 3:23 PM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
posted by adept256 at 3:23 PM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
Trilogies are so 80s/90s. The new hotness is Cinematic Shared Universes, though the obvious potential partner franchises are with different studios: Sony's got Uncharted, Disney's got Indiana Jones and National Treasure. Even if they wanted to try to go further afield to something like Assassin's Creed, 20th Century Fox has that one.
The Marvel Vs. Capcom cinematic universe
tbh I might actually watch that one
posted by Existential Dread at 3:29 PM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
The Marvel Vs. Capcom cinematic universe
tbh I might actually watch that one
posted by Existential Dread at 3:29 PM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
So I was just able to watch the trailer for this and it looks like a late 2010s action movie alright. Soon neural nets will just be able to generation these movies on demand, won't they?
posted by octothorpe at 3:40 PM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by octothorpe at 3:40 PM on September 20, 2017 [1 favorite]
So I was just able to watch the trailer for this and it looks like a late 2010s action movie alright. Soon neural nets will just be able to generation these movies on demand, won't they?
I'm pretty sure that this is just how The Dark Tower was produced.
posted by Halloween Jack at 5:02 PM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
I'm pretty sure that this is just how The Dark Tower was produced.
posted by Halloween Jack at 5:02 PM on September 20, 2017 [2 favorites]
The rebooted Tomb Raider games are just excellent and this looks like a pitch-perfect adaptation. I gotta say, I'm pretty keen to see the finished product (and a third game)!
posted by turbid dahlia at 5:44 PM on September 20, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by turbid dahlia at 5:44 PM on September 20, 2017 [3 favorites]
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