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"Is there really any need to add a range of emotions to PILE OF POO?"

1994 Fizz: “Man the Internet is so cool, look at all the information we have and how I can interact with people from around the globe This is going to change how we think and how we communicate with each other.”
2017 Fizz: *clicks on article* READS "Is there really any need to add a range of emotions to PILE OF POO?"

*sighs*
posted by Fizz at 9:33 AM on November 2, 2017 [12 favorites]


Well, for you poo music lovers, I saw a pile of poo, Bluetooth speaker at Office Max yesterday.
posted by Oyéah at 9:43 AM on November 2, 2017


The real question is, will there be different tones for the poo, as there are for skin tones? Poo hues, if you will.
posted by chavenet at 9:44 AM on November 2, 2017 [2 favorites]


Glad to see Jennifer 8. Lee in there. Wonder if it’s time to change my middle name to 🌵(pronounced “Janet”)
posted by roger ackroyd at 9:44 AM on November 2, 2017 [7 favorites]


...a pile of poo, Bluetooth speaker at Office Max yesterday.

I was thinking, yeah, aren't they all? Then I realized Oyéah must mean a literal pile of poo.
posted by StickyCarpet at 9:58 AM on November 2, 2017 [1 favorite]


The real question is, will there be different tones for the poo, as there are for skin tones? Poo hues, if you will.

This can be an indicator of certain health problems. If you notice your poo is not looking the way it normally does, please consult your doctor.
posted by Fizz at 10:01 AM on November 2, 2017


This can be an indicator of certain health problems.

Or perhaps a video card issue. Jiggle the connector.
posted by MrGuilt at 10:06 AM on November 2, 2017 [6 favorites]


There is a (not) fine and (not really) noble history.
posted by sammyo at 10:14 AM on November 2, 2017


The Toronto ttc streetcars do this thing called a "short turn" whereby they pull off the current route and loop back, so most people exit the streetcar at the turn and wait for the next streetcar. We called this getting 'shit-turned' for a while, and now my wife just has to text me the poo emoji to know she's been short-turned and will be 20 minutes late. So for us, a frowning poo would be spot-on. Our poo is always unhappy.
posted by parki at 10:16 AM on November 2, 2017 [2 favorites]


> If you notice your poo is not looking the way it normally does, please consult your doctor.

Does that include if it's frowning?
posted by Leon at 10:16 AM on November 2, 2017 [1 favorite]


Give it what facial expression you will, I still see only the Gadsden flag every time.
posted by fredludd at 10:30 AM on November 2, 2017 [5 favorites]


#chocolate
posted by ardgedee at 10:47 AM on November 2, 2017


OK, but none of those mockups are frowning because you frown with your eyebrows, and they are not doing that.

Just cancel the whole thing. Frowning poop emoji, poop emoji, the rest of the emojis, and also the internet.
posted by ernielundquist at 11:03 AM on November 2, 2017 [5 favorites]


First cheeseburger emoji and now poo. Is this the start of a great Emoji War?!
posted by Fizz at 11:14 AM on November 2, 2017


Give it what facial expression you will, I still see only the Gadsden flag every time.

DON'T STEP IN ME
posted by Strange Interlude at 11:21 AM on November 2, 2017 [11 favorites]


ANimating the pile of poo with your face is apparently the iPhone X top selling point. I'm going to pass.
posted by Artw at 11:25 AM on November 2, 2017


Will we have to encode a neutral FACELESS PILE OF POO?

How and when did the poop emoji gain a face in the first place? I could have sworn that at one point it wasn't a smiling poop, but just a poop.
posted by explosion at 11:30 AM on November 2, 2017


ANimating the pile of poo with your face is apparently the iPhone X top selling point. I'm going to pass.

Troll Level : 1000
posted by Fizz at 11:54 AM on November 2, 2017


They added the face because without it people couldn't tell if it was poo or a beehive.
posted by ckape at 12:04 PM on November 2, 2017


They added the face because without it people couldn't tell if it was poo or a beehive froyo.
posted by Ogre Lawless at 12:13 PM on November 2, 2017


poo or froyo

Eh, same difference.
posted by uncleozzy at 12:56 PM on November 2, 2017 [1 favorite]


Because, unlike beehives or froyo, poop typically has a face?
posted by JiBB at 1:01 PM on November 2, 2017 [2 favorites]


The poop is also cursed.
posted by Greg_Ace at 1:19 PM on November 2, 2017 [2 favorites]


A poop emoji trick or treated at my house on Halloween.
posted by Eyebrows McGee at 1:22 PM on November 2, 2017 [2 favorites]


fredludd: "Give it what facial expression you will, I still see only the Gadsden flag every time."

"Don't tread on me" indeed
posted by chavenet at 1:36 PM on November 2, 2017


A friend of mine ElseNet commented on how it must be depressing to be a serious linguist or lexicographer on a Unicode committee right now—their job used to involve serious, detailed discussion on how to correctly integrate ideogram-based alphabets and things like that, and now...
posted by seyirci at 2:51 PM on November 2, 2017 [3 favorites]


Poop Emoji style, "Bluetooth speaker at Office Max yesterday.
posted by Oyéah at 3:08 PM on November 2, 2017


I am the newly proud owner of a poop emoji muffin tin (words I never dreamed of typing). My icing face options are endless!
posted by JennyJupiter at 3:31 PM on November 2, 2017 [2 favorites]


"Is there really any need to add a range of emotions to PILE OF POO?"

I don't know, maybe it's because my development stopped at age 4, but YES. I need that to express my full range of shitty emotions.
posted by GospelofWesleyWillis at 12:08 AM on November 3, 2017


West, echoed Everson’s comments forcefully in a similar — and entirely serious — rebuttal:

“I'm concerned that this character will open the floodgates for an open-ended set of PILE OF POO emoji with emotions, such as CRYING PILE OF POO, PILE OF POO WITH LOOK OF TRIUMPH, PILE OF POO SCREAMING IN FEAR, etc[...]"


we have reached peak 2017
posted by Ziggy500 at 4:00 AM on November 3, 2017 [1 favorite]


> How and when did the poop emoji gain a face in the first place?

It always had one, at least in the SoftBank emoji set. When Unicode standardised the first round of emoji they unified Softbank's smiling-poo (Shift-JIS non-standard extension character F99B うんち) with KDDI's poo-with-stink-lines (Shift-JIS non-standard extension character F6CE ウンチマーク). (DoCoMo did not have its own poomoji at the time.)

Unicode didn't specify what exact rendering should be used, but typically monochrome fonts used a simple faceless rendering as it requires less detail. Apple's colour emoji font used SoftBank's smiling rendering because iPhone launched on SoftBank's network first; since then other fonts have been gradually heading in Apple's direction for compatibility.

Anyhow, the two poomoji alternatives were presumably unified because they would have been understood by Japanese users an equivalent symbols of good luck, rather than an excrement-based expression of emotional state that needed an accompanying frowning version.

If poo has come to have its own meaning in another culture then maybe frowning poo deserves further consideration. However to my prescriptivist soul everything that has happened since Emoji 1.0 has been a horrendous disaster and I'll choose to ignore it. There is an unfortunate impedence mismatch between a body standardising the world's writing systems, and commercial imperatives that prefer to emphasise frivolous, ephemeral shit.
posted by BobInce at 5:06 AM on November 3, 2017 [2 favorites]


Semi-serious question: has the Unicode consortium considered just adding a range of "expression-face" combining characters, so̲͢ ͝w̠̝̖̟̼͘ͅe̡̬ ̛̮̬̞̩̭̮c̪͙̩͢o̢̜͚͚̜̮͉u̶̙͖̭͇͉͙̦l̖ͅd̠̟̻͝ ̛̪̞̙̱̥h͇̣̣̜̰̞̼a͕͘vè̦͖̱ͅ ͎͖̕ͅe̩̤̺͜x͔͍͇̹͖͉̀ͅp̬̩̳͔̻͓͝r̤͔e̱̝̼̮̤ͅs̺̭̳͙̼͇͜s҉͖̭͔i̹̯̼ọ͔̕ͅn̞̥͜s̢̜̻͍͓ o̕n͙̟̰̘̺̰͙ ͕̣̠̖͖w̺̝͚h̟͚̦͡ͅa̲̻̹̬̙̹̜t̡͎͍͉̬̯̯ͅe̱͚͍͜v͞e͙̠͇̪̥̤͉r̫̭̙ ͠é̖̪̻̭̗m̷o̭̹̤͙̘͕͝j̘̤̩̩̩̖̳͞i̴ ̭̺͙͉̹̘̱w̻͚͕ͅe͖̙͇ ̹̰̬͎̺̜̤w͇a͎̜̘͞n͚̪̭̲͍̞ṯ̵͎̠̜?
posted by Reverend John at 7:04 AM on November 3, 2017 [1 favorite]


Aha! So it *IS* a shoggoth!

(I very much enjoy the bit where the part of the team in charge of doing stuff like that and, you know, serious stuff to do with the expression of language, clearly hate the Emoji team fuckers)
posted by Artw at 7:32 AM on November 3, 2017 [1 favorite]


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