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November 9, 2017 11:49 PM   Subscribe

Hilary Clinton is the guest editor of the forthcoming issue of Teen Vogue -- before Conde Nast shuts down print production thereof, as previously.

The opening essay isn't conciliatory.
posted by clew (17 comments total) 23 users marked this as a favorite
 
This should be most of them. I'm sure there are more here, but I imagine there's nothing in the second link that you won't find in the first.

Anyway I'm super into this and good on Teen Vogue. While the layoffs suck, I don't see the shutting down of their print version a death knoll--how many teenagers these days do you know with physical magazine subscriptions?
posted by Anonymous at 12:13 AM on November 10, 2017


as Shirley Chisholm once said, “If they don’t give you a seat at the table, bring a folding chair.”

That's a good one.
posted by Meatbomb at 12:29 AM on November 10, 2017 [14 favorites]


as Shirley Chisholm once said, “If they don’t give you a seat at the table, bring a folding chair.”

I find this quote ambiguous. Does she mean you should bring a chair to sit on, or in the manner of professional wrestling?

I know which one I'd prefer.
posted by Faint of Butt at 4:56 AM on November 10, 2017 [39 favorites]


Does she mean you should bring a chair to sit on, or in the manner of professional wrestling?

Sit, if there's room. Smack 'em and make room otherwise.
posted by explosion at 6:18 AM on November 10, 2017 [9 favorites]


I too thought like you did until it was pointed out I wasn't thinking of all teenage girls... Just ones in my own privileged view.

Teen Vogue was never aimed at girls whose parents don't have money. Advertisers don't spend all those thousands of dollars to bring peace and equality to the world. It's a business, not a public service, and the business is to get insecure and conformist little girls whose mommies and daddies have disposable income to become followers who dress, act, and think a certain way, boxing them in for the rest of their shallow lives.

But everyone just loses all common sense and covet that whole "privilege" thing...it is simply a softer and more diplomatic term for "exploitable pigeon who has money to be fleeced."
posted by Alexandra Kitty at 6:18 AM on November 10, 2017 [4 favorites]


Goodness. Is "pigeon" is a new misogynistic term for a teenaged girl? I hadn't previously been familiar with that one!
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 6:30 AM on November 10, 2017 [6 favorites]


Nast Woman.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 6:40 AM on November 10, 2017 [13 favorites]


You need to watch some old b&w classic movies! "Pigeon" has been slang for a young pretty woman or someone easily duped for a long time.
posted by fimbulvetr at 8:04 AM on November 10, 2017 [2 favorites]


I like Teen Vogue. They have cheered me up and given me hope during this miserable, ghastly year.
posted by A Terrible Llama at 8:21 AM on November 10, 2017 [4 favorites]


exploitable pigeon who has money to be fleeced

Mixed metaphor alert!

Teen Vogue was never popular in my affluent-but-nerdy social circle when I was a teen. But I've read several of the articles they ran over the course of the 2016 election, and I have to say, they had better analysis than 95% of media aimed at adults.
posted by basalganglia at 9:32 AM on November 10, 2017 [1 favorite]


When I headed off to HRC’s election-night event, I remember saying (and genuinely believing), “There is no way—No. Way.—that man will win.” Boy, was I wrong. The next morning, we gathered to mourn what felt like the end of the world.

Boy, was I remembering that feeling as I left the polling place the other night! The previous year, I had left on cloud nine and gone to bed with such a feeling of euphoria that I slept better than I had in years. No idea whatsoever of the world I would wake up to the next morning. 4 months, I would still occasionally have days of shock where I would either forgot or block out the real results.

As for the loss of the print edition of Teen Vogue, I guess I just worked in the publishing industry too long to be surprised. Yes, it will have some impact on the young people who can't afford to own the technology to read it. But it will still be available on library computers and friends’ devices, so it's better than going out of business entirely.
posted by The Underpants Monster at 9:52 AM on November 10, 2017 [1 favorite]


I am not dismissing the presence of the digital divide. But if you look at smartphone and mobile device use--which is how most teens are consuming this content anyway--it is much smaller and continues to close rapidly. When I was last reading about digital divide statistics vis-a-vis mobile devices it was pretty crazy, you can't even look at stats from a couple years ago because the percentages are growing so quickly.

In the neighborhoods I've been, I'm more likely to see kids passing around someone's phone, rather than a physical copy of anything.
posted by Anonymous at 10:03 AM on November 10, 2017


Anyway, I remember completely dismissing Teen Vogue (and most teen-aimed magazines, actually) as a kid. So when it bounced to the forefront of smart, real election coverage I was pretty gobsmacked. Had it always been like that, or was this a new thing?
posted by Anonymous at 10:05 AM on November 10, 2017


4 months, I would still occasionally have days of shock where I would either forgot or block out the real results.

It's only recently that I stopped waking up in a panic having realized who is in the oval office in place of our legitimate Madame President. I still cry myself to sleep about it sometimes. I love reading everything she has written and hearing every interview she gives - good on Teen Vogue for this issue. I love HRC, and I love anyone who acknowledges and celebrates the wisdom and power of teen girls.
posted by Emmy Rae at 10:05 AM on November 10, 2017 [3 favorites]


Also love that HRC uses a quote from a woman who ran for president before her and helped pave the way.
posted by Emmy Rae at 10:07 AM on November 10, 2017 [4 favorites]


The lead time for a guest editor must be more than a month? Makes me wonder if they're being shut down because of this last political step, or they saw it coming and are going out with a roar.
posted by clew at 11:53 AM on November 10, 2017 [1 favorite]


Has anyone dug into the current owners of Conde Nast, the heirs? I don't have any reason to suspect it's a Mercer or Sinclair situation, but the coverage of Roy Moore in the papers they own seems rather one-sided. And they do still hold a huge stake in Reddit.
posted by RobotVoodooPower at 12:11 PM on November 10, 2017 [2 favorites]


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